The unrecognized Holocaust

[KarlMarx]

Here's some food for thought.....

Everyone knows that "The Holocaust" was the systematic extermination of the Jews by the Nazis. The number of victims - 6 million.

Everyone knows by now the gays were also killed by the Nazis (although the number of gays killed probably numbered less than 10,000).

Now... according to conservative estimates, Communism was responsible for over 100 million deaths during the last century.

Now, what are the chances that Communism has killed more Jews (and for that matter more gays) than the Nazis? My guess is that there is a very good chance that is true. Yet, no one talks about the Communist Holocaust.

Well, I have an answer to that, too. Nazis were extreme right wing thugs and murderers, while Communists are extreme Left wing thugs and murderers. The Main Stream Media, many politicians and celebrities and, most of our universities have been supporters of the Communists, so what do you think? Do you think that they will ever acknowledge this 2nd Holocaust? NOT ON YOUR LIFE!

 

[insein]

Here's some food for thought.....

Everyone knows that "The Holocaust" was the systematic extermination of the Jews by the Nazis. The number of victims - 6 million.

Everyone knows by now the gays were also killed by the Nazis (although the number of gays killed probably numbered less than 10,000).

Now... according to conservative estimates, Communism was responsible for over 100 million deaths during the last century.

Now, what are the chances that Communism has killed more Jews (and for that matter more gays) than the Nazis? My guess is that there is a very good chance that is true. Yet, no one talks about the Communist Holocaust.

Well, I have an answer to that, too. Nazis were extreme right wing thugs and murderers, while Communists are extreme Left wing thugs and murderers. The Main Stream Media, many politicians and celebrities and, most of our universities have been supporters of the Communists, so what do you think? Do you think that they will ever acknowledge this 2nd Holocaust? NOT ON YOUR LIFE!

I dont know that nazis were right wingers.

They believed that the state was above all else. That hitler was the one true ruler and infallable against any criticism. Censorship against opposition was strict. All national facilities were state run. Private property and businesses were seized in the name of the state. All glory went to the state above all else.

Sounds like a fancy form of communism to me.

Extreme right wing in my opinion would be anarchy. The lack of government. Freedom for all with no leadership and no protection from consequence.

 

[dilloduck]

Here's some food for thought.....

Everyone knows that "The Holocaust" was the systematic extermination of the Jews by the Nazis. The number of victims - 6 million.

Everyone knows by now the gays were also killed by the Nazis (although the number of gays killed probably numbered less than 10,000).

Now... according to conservative estimates, Communism was responsible for over 100 million deaths during the last century.

Now, what are the chances that Communism has killed more Jews (and for that matter more gays) than the Nazis? My guess is that there is a very good chance that is true. Yet, no one talks about the Communist Holocaust.

Well, I have an answer to that, too. Nazis were extreme right wing thugs and murderers, while Communists are extreme Left wing thugs and murderers. The Main Stream Media, many politicians and celebrities and, most of our universities have been supporters of the Communists, so what do you think? Do you think that they will ever acknowledge this 2nd Holocaust? NOT ON YOUR LIFE!

Are you kidding----some people would flip their yamulkes if pity were shifted in any manner that denied them sole reason to feel oppressed !!!

 

[William Joyce]

One reason that death by communism --- which you correctly note eclipses death by nationalism --- does not come in for the excoriation that the Nazis do is that communism was a political movement started by Jews in order to protect themselves from anti-Semitic royalists like the Czar. In Russia, Jews saw that the Czar was a bit of a nationalist, preferring his own people over the foreigner Jews who occupied his lands. So Jews thought they ought to take over, but did so on grounds that weren't explicitly ethnic. They did so as communists, proclaiming that it was "class struggle" that held us (them) all back, when really, it was RACIAL and ethnic struggle.

In short, communism is a Jewish thing. Jews in America know this, so they have made communism a positive or benign thing through their media and persuasion power. Nazism, meanwhile, because it was anti-Semitic, is made out to be the worst thing ever. Of cousre, it wasn't. But it was anti-Jewish. Which means that for JEWS, it's the worst thing ever.

That's a quite different thing from being the universally worst thing. But this is how liberals, and most "conservatives", have come to understand it.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Here's some food for thought.....

Everyone knows that "The Holocaust" was the systematic extermination of the Jews by the Nazis. The number of victims - 6 million.

Everyone knows by now the gays were also killed by the Nazis (although the number of gays killed probably numbered less than 10,000).

Now... according to conservative estimates, Communism was responsible for over 100 million deaths during the last century.

Now, what are the chances that Communism has killed more Jews (and for that matter more gays) than the Nazis? My guess is that there is a very good chance that is true. Yet, no one talks about the Communist Holocaust.

Well, I have an answer to that, too. Nazis were extreme right wing thugs and murderers, while Communists are extreme Left wing thugs and murderers. The Main Stream Media, many politicians and celebrities and, most of our universities have been supporters of the Communists, so what do you think? Do you think that they will ever acknowledge this 2nd Holocaust? NOT ON YOUR LIFE!

You're right. Of course the left will not acknowledge this 2nd Holocaust or any Holocaust such as the abortion Holocaust (millions killed also) unless they can pin it on the right, because they are part and parcel of these death cults fostered by Communist and Fascist ideologies which are in direct opposition to Christianity and other pro-life and individual life advocates.

The Left Is A Death Cult [Example: Terri Schiavo]

By Craig Chamberlain
Mar. 28, 2005

I now know why the left protested against the war to free Iraqis and the people of Afghanistan and why they call terrorists freedom fighters or insurgents. They have something in common with the islamofascists: they are both death cults.

Oh, the left doesn't want to kill themselves to get into paradise, they want to kill everyone else so they can make the world in their image. And the allies of their enemies are their enemies.

Take Terri Schiavo. What was her crime? She collapsed. Once her husband got the money he abandoned her, took another woman and is trying to kill his wife so he can keep the money and marry his common law wife. Absolutely disgusting. Hitler is smiling from the bottom of hell. It is morally repugnant. The left fights to save the lives of serial killers, but has to slowly and cruelly murder a woman who's only crime is being married to a world class jackass. Michael Schiavo should be proud. He will get away with murdering his wife with the whole world wathcing and court approval. Not even OJ pulled that off.

Why must she die? Because her right to life is supported by rev. Falwell and Tom DeLay. You see a preacher and a pro life congressman are considered fascists while the real fascists get a pass on murder in the name of national resistance. If Germany restarted the holocaust to get rid of Europes remaining jews, and the GOP tried to stop them, the left would go to Europe and act as human shields to protect concentration camps.

Death is at the heart of what the left stands for. Kill your enemies, kill the unborn, kill the weak and the defenseless. But scream bloody murder when someone tries to stop the butchers. You see, they will tell the world that we are the cruel ones. That we are cruel for giving criminals the punishment they deserve and for warring with tyrants and freeing their people. They will lie and say that a woman starving to death will feel nothing that she will just drift quietly and blissfuly away. Garbage. Starvation is slow, painful and cruel.

http://www.useless-knowledge.com/1234/mar/article378.html

 

[manu1959]

One reason that death by communism --- which you correctly note eclipses death by nationalism --- does not come in for the excoriation that the Nazis do is that communism was a political movement started by Jews in order to protect themselves from anti-Semitic royalists like the Czar. In Russia, Jews saw that the Czar was a bit of a nationalist, preferring his own people over the foreigner Jews who occupied his lands. So Jews thought they ought to take over, but did so on grounds that weren't explicitly ethnic. They did so as communists, proclaiming that it was "class struggle" that held us (them) all back, when really, it was RACIAL and ethnic struggle.

In short, communism is a Jewish thing. Jews in America know this, so they have made communism a positive or benign thing through their media and persuasion power. Nazism, meanwhile, because it was anti-Semitic, is made out to be the worst thing ever. Of cousre, it wasn't. But it was anti-Jewish. Which means that for JEWS, it's the worst thing ever.

That's a quite different thing from being the universally worst thing. But this is how liberals, and most "conservatives", have come to understand it.

so it is the jew's fault that stalin killed them?

 

[freeandfun1]

so it is the jew's fault that stalin killed them?

to be fair, stalin killed a lot of ethnic minorities, not just the Jews.

 

[manu1959]

to be fair, stalin killed a lot of ethnic minorities, not just the Jews.

fair enough...but i belive mr joyce's point was communisim was a creation of the jews to avoid nationalisim so their extermination by stalin would be their own fault for creating the system that killed them

 

[dilloduck]

fair enough...but i belive mr joyce's point was communisim was a creation of the jews to avoid nationalisim so their extermination by stalin would be their own fault for creating the system that killed them

I would never suggest to a Jew that he was responsible for anything bad that happened to him. It begins the next phase of the defense---"oh sure, blame EVERYTHING on the Jews". Makes you look like a bigot in an attempt to blow your statetment.

 

[manu1959]

I would never suggest to a Jew that he was responsible for anything bad that happened to him. It begins the next phase of the defense---"oh sure, blame EVERYTHING on the Jews". Makes you look like a bigot in an attempt to blow your statetment.

me either....odd thing..... a one time good friend of mine lived in germany in the 30s....he said one night after too much wine..."if you ask me all the arrogant jews lived on the hills in the nice houses and fucked with the average german...he then said.....no wonder hitler got the average german to turn aginst them....i sat there stunned just staring at this guy

 

[insein]

I would never suggest to a Jew that he was responsible for anything bad that happened to him. It begins the next phase of the defense---"oh sure, blame EVERYTHING on the Jews". Makes you look like a bigot in an attempt to blow your statetment.

which plays right into their hands. Be careful not to get sued. I hear the ACLU might be lobbying more censorship laws.

 

[insein]

me either....odd thing..... a one time good friend of mine lived in germany in the 30s....he said one night after too much wine..."if you ask me all the arrogant jews lived on the hills in the nice houses and fucked with the average german...he then said.....no wonder hitler got the average german to turn aginst them....i sat there stunned just staring at this guy

By far im not a supremecist but think about it. Any class of people throughout history that has had privelege and has scorned the lesser people as dolts and morons to pity, has gotten their due. Dukes and Lords of old that ruled in tyrranny eventually were overthrown. The russian czars were all beheaded down to the youngest heir by the people who they ruled. France had a revolution against an entire class of people (aristocrats) for their privelege over the less fortunate. In early 17th century America the riots by the poor against the rich were common especially during the Civil War where resentments were inflamed by the drafting of poor sons over rich ones.

The jews were the wealthy in Germany during the 30's and would make an easy target of resentment for the masses. Whats the difference between then and now? Lawyers, judges and unconstitutional laws. New laws are passed with little regard for the constitution or the majority of people. Lawyers and judges push these laws onto the people and eliminate those troublemakers from old by placing them in jail for petty crimes such as drug possession or DUI. Remove them from society and place fear into everyone else. Fear to not rock the boat or else end up like them. It quells revolution. It quells even average human instinct to call a spade a spade when doing so could be against the law.

America is on a dangerous crossroads where a small minority can manipulate the laws to where the people have lost control and cant get it back. We're almost there and once we pass that point, its gone for good.

 

[MtnBiker]

I dont know that nazis were right wingers.

Good call.

 

[manu1959]

Good call.

facism is to the right so that makes them right wingers

 

[insein]

facism is to the right so that makes them right wingers

What defines facisism as a right wing form of government? A chart? A Book?

Fascists run everything through the guise of nationalism. The people that speak out against seizures in the name of the state have their tongues removed. Those that strike back against those that rape their wives or sisters have their arms cut off. The guise of a government controlled by the people is simply that. Communism declares the state the ruling party. declares the people are in charge but the state rules the people. How is that different from facisim? Because theres a man at the head? Stalin was a man. Khrushchev was a man. Their claim was that it was for the people. Yet millions were killed. Hitler claimed his actions were for the good of the German people. Millions died anyway.

Show me how, even idealogically Facism is a right wing government.

 

[dilloduck]

What defines facisism as a right wing form of government? A chart? A Book?

Fascists run everything through the guise of nationalism. The people that speak out against seizures in the name of the state have their tongues removed. Those that strike back against those that rape their wives or sisters have their arms cut off. The guise of a government controlled by the people is simply that. Communism declares the state the ruling party. declares the people are in charge but the state rules the people. How is that different from facisim? Because theres a man at the head? Stalin was a man. Khrushchev was a man. Their claim was that it was for the people. Yet millions were killed. Hitler claimed his actions were for the good of the German people. Millions died anyway.

Show me how, even idealogically Facism is a right wing government.

What is fascism?
http://www.remember.org/hist.root.what.html

an informative site

 

[Avatar4321]

Well, I have an answer to that, too. Nazis were extreme right wing thugs and murderers, while Communists are extreme Left wing thugs and murderers. The Main Stream Media, many politicians and celebrities and, most of our universities have been supporters of the Communists, so what do you think? Do you think that they will ever acknowledge this 2nd Holocaust? NOT ON YOUR LIFE!

Nazis aren't right wing. They are socialist. They are to the right of communists but considering communists are the far left is that any surprise? Marxism has killed alot of jews and alot of other people as well regardless of whether you call it communism or fascism. Fact is socialism is just evil. Ironic that marx thought his idealogy would end all ethnic hatred of jews and everyone else. Ironic since Marx was himself jewish.

 

[Avatar4321]

so it is the jew's fault that stalin killed them?

Just remember its a Jews fault they will all live again too

 

[KarlMarx]

Nazis aren't right wing. They are socialist. They are to the right of communists but considering communists are the far left is that any surprise? Marxism has killed alot of jews and alot of other people as well regardless of whether you call it communism or fascism. Fact is socialism is just evil. Ironic that marx thought his idealogy would end all ethnic hatred of jews and everyone else. Ironic since Marx was himself jewish.

I'm not going to quibble over definitions, the real poiint of my original post was that the Holocaust is remembered because a group of people (i.e. Nazis) who opposed communism (Hitler considered communism to be almost as big a threat as the Jews) carried it out. But, the same is done by the communists and it's all swept under the rug and no mention is made of it.

If you make the statement that Stalin and the Communists probably killed more Jews than Hitler, you'll either get total amazement or the reaction that you're being anti-Semitic. Most people are unaware of the scope of carnage the communists are guilty of.

 

[insein]

I'm not going to quibble over definitions, the real poiint of my original post was that the Holocaust is remembered because a group of people (i.e. Nazis) who opposed communism (Hitler considered communism to be almost as big a threat as the Jews) carried it out. But, the same is done by the communists and it's all swept under the rug and no mention is made of it.

If you make the statement that Stalin and the Communists probably killed more Jews than Hitler, you'll either get total amazement or the reaction that you're being anti-Semitic. Most people are unaware of the scope of carnage the communists are guilty of.

Agreed. Could that be because of the communists who have infiltrated our media and entertainment industry? Where McCarthy when you need him.