The Union Army's odd infatuation with a criminal they hanged

[whitehall]

There were about a dozen less defended arsenals south of the Mason Dixon line in the pre civil war years and it would be logical to foment a slave revolution in the deep south rather than Harper's Ferry. Did Brown think he could organize a slave revolution when nobody knew about it or cared on the border of northern Virginia and Maryland? Was it a suicide mission to make a political statement? If that's the case it worked fine.

 

[rightwinger]

There were about a dozen less defended arsenals south of the Mason Dixon line in the pre civil war years and it would be logical to foment a slave revolution in the deep south rather than Harper's Ferry. Did Brown think he could organize a slave revolution when nobody knew about it or cared on the border of northern Virginia and Maryland? Was it a suicide mission to make a political statement? If that's the case it worked fine.

It threw the south into a panic that their humble servants would rise up and kill them. Helped push them to secede

 

[whitehall]

There were about a dozen less defended arsenals south of the Mason Dixon line in the pre civil war years and it would be logical to foment a slave revolution in the deep south rather than Harper's Ferry. Did Brown think he could organize a slave revolution when nobody knew about it or cared on the border of northern Virginia and Maryland? Was it a suicide mission to make a political statement? If that's the case it worked fine.

It threw the south into a panic that their humble servants would rise up and kill them. Helped push them to secede

Is that the theory? The maniac and his 18 followers armed with pikes and swords thought they could take a Union Arsenal on the Va. Md. border to encourage South Carolina to secede? The Union Army hanged the bastard. There was no panic except in the little town of Harper's Ferry that lost it's mayor and half a dozen of it's citizens. The strange thing is that the Union Army turned Brown into a hero after they executed him. A relatively popular actor by the name of John Wilkes Booth was allegedly in the audience at the hanging.

 

[Asclepias]

He was white.

So was John Brown. Explanation?

Yeah but John Brown gave his life for Black people to be free. That is an unpardonable sin to other whites.

 

[Asclepias]

It's kind of strange that a current U.S. quarter depicting the U.S. Arsenal at Harper's Ferry would feature a single incident of anarchy rather than the years of the manufacture of weapons in the early industrial revolution. If you are interested in weapons manufacture and the early industrial revolution and visit the U.S. Park, be prepared to be lectured about the failed John Brown raid and slavery rather than the Armory's history. Brown was widely recognized as insane at the time of his anarchy and failed murder spree and the Union Army justifiably hanged him for his crimes. The strange thing is that after he was hanged Brown became a hero in the eyes of the media and the same Union Army that hanged him. The Union used the John Brown (enhanced and faked?) legacy as a recruiting tool and a morale booster during the Civil War. The current U.S. Government apparently sees Brown's insanity as a heroic act in retrospect even after he was hanged for crimes including the murder of half a dozen citizens of Harper's Ferry including the mayor.. Here we are in the 21st century tearing down historic monuments to Confederate generals while crafting a coin to commemerte the life of a murderer and anarchist who was hanged.

What was John Browns motive?

Does a motive justify murder? The Union hanged him.

No. The state of Virginia hung him.

Virginia v. John Brown - Wikipedia

The Union Army ironically under the command of Union Lt. Robert E. Lee. captured Brown. He may have been sentenced to die in Va. and under Va. law but the Union Army hanged him.

Nope. It was the US Marines. Lee never was in command of any Union army. Also the state of Virginia hanged John Brown. If it was the Union Army like you claim you would have provided some proof like I did.

 

[whitehall]

He was white.

So was John Brown. Explanation?

Yeah but John Brown gave his life for Black people to be free. That is an unpardonable sin to other whites.

He gave a couple of other lives to boot. Did (does) the end justify the means? Brown was a maniac. Everyone agrees and the Union military dragged him on a scaffold and hanged him. Maybe the media at the time turned him into a hero and poor old Abe who couldn't seem to deal with the crisis other than "allowing" states to leave the Union seemed to need some sort of symbol to justify the murder of other innocent Americans who never heard of John Brown. The little ditty apparently sounded good around Union campfires while Southern farmers were systematically hanged for resisting the pillage and rape.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

It's kind of strange that a current U.S. quarter depicting the U.S. Arsenal at Harper's Ferry would feature a single incident of anarchy rather than the years of the manufacture of weapons in the early industrial revolution. If you are interested in weapons manufacture and the early industrial revolution and visit the U.S. Park, be prepared to be lectured about the failed John Brown raid and slavery rather than the Armory's history. Brown was widely recognized as insane at the time of his anarchy and failed murder spree and the Union Army justifiably hanged him for his crimes. The strange thing is that after he was hanged Brown became a hero in the eyes of the media and the same Union Army that hanged him. The Union used the John Brown (enhanced and faked?) legacy as a recruiting tool and a morale booster during the Civil War. The current U.S. Government apparently sees Brown's insanity as a heroic act in retrospect even after he was hanged for crimes including the murder of half a dozen citizens of Harper's Ferry including the mayor.. Here we are in the 21st century tearing down historic monuments to Confederate generals while crafting a coin to commemerte the life of a murderer and anarchist who was hanged.

Interesting historical tidbit, the Union Officer in charge of retaking the arsenal was Colonel Robert E. Lee.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

It's kind of strange that a current U.S. quarter depicting the U.S. Arsenal at Harper's Ferry would feature a single incident of anarchy rather than the years of the manufacture of weapons in the early industrial revolution. If you are interested in weapons manufacture and the early industrial revolution and visit the U.S. Park, be prepared to be lectured about the failed John Brown raid and slavery rather than the Armory's history. Brown was widely recognized as insane at the time of his anarchy and failed murder spree and the Union Army justifiably hanged him for his crimes. The strange thing is that after he was hanged Brown became a hero in the eyes of the media and the same Union Army that hanged him. The Union used the John Brown (enhanced and faked?) legacy as a recruiting tool and a morale booster during the Civil War. The current U.S. Government apparently sees Brown's insanity as a heroic act in retrospect even after he was hanged for crimes including the murder of half a dozen citizens of Harper's Ferry including the mayor.. Here we are in the 21st century tearing down historic monuments to Confederate generals while crafting a coin to commemerte the life of a murderer and anarchist who was hanged.

What was John Browns motive?

Does a motive justify murder? The Union hanged him.

No. The state of Virginia hung him.

Virginia v. John Brown - Wikipedia

The Union Army ironically under the command of Union Lt. Robert E. Lee. captured Brown. He may have been sentenced to die in Va. and under Va. law but the Union Army hanged him.

Nope. It was the US Marines. Lee never was in command of any Union army. Also the state of Virginia hanged John Brown. If it was the Union Army like you claim you would have provided some proof like I did.

Lee was in overall command of military units tasked to retake the arsenal
. John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry - Wikipedia

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

A famous American General.

No he was traitor confederate general. Definitely not Union.

The Confederacy was part of America.

YOur outrage, coming from someone that doesn't even celebrate the Fourth, is dismissed.

Nope. The confederacy were traitors that got their asses kicked and hence became losers.

THey rebelled against tremendous odds, and lost. And were forgiven and welcomed back into the American Family with open arms.


YOur hatred is uncalled for.



Robert E. Lee is a famous American General.

Stop deflecting and trying to stand up for the traitor Robert E lee. He was a confederate loser. He got his ass kicked. He wasnt in the Union army and the Union Army didnt hang John Brown.

You do realise that Lincoln offered Lee command of the Union Army.

 

[Asclepias]

What was John Browns motive?

Does a motive justify murder? The Union hanged him.

No. The state of Virginia hung him.

Virginia v. John Brown - Wikipedia

The Union Army ironically under the command of Union Lt. Robert E. Lee. captured Brown. He may have been sentenced to die in Va. and under Va. law but the Union Army hanged him.

Nope. It was the US Marines. Lee never was in command of any Union army. Also the state of Virginia hanged John Brown. If it was the Union Army like you claim you would have provided some proof like I did.

Lee was in overall command of military units tasked to retake the arsenal
. John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry - Wikipedia

That doesnt change the fact it was called the US Marines and not the Union Army. Says so in your own link.

"Brown's party of 22[ was defeated by a company of U.S. Marines, led by First Lieutenant Israel Greene.[3] Colonel Robert E. Lee was in overall command of the operation to retake the arsenal."

 

[Asclepias]

No he was traitor confederate general. Definitely not Union.

The Confederacy was part of America.

YOur outrage, coming from someone that doesn't even celebrate the Fourth, is dismissed.

Nope. The confederacy were traitors that got their asses kicked and hence became losers.

THey rebelled against tremendous odds, and lost. And were forgiven and welcomed back into the American Family with open arms.


YOur hatred is uncalled for.



Robert E. Lee is a famous American General.

Stop deflecting and trying to stand up for the traitor Robert E lee. He was a confederate loser. He got his ass kicked. He wasnt in the Union army and the Union Army didnt hang John Brown.

You do realise that Lincoln offered Lee command of the Union Army.

You do realize that since he turned it down he was never in it right? I mean its really not that difficult of a point to understand is it? There is a distinction made.

Lee resigns from U.S. Army - Apr 20, 1861 - HISTORY.com

Colonel Robert E. Lee resigns from the United States army two days after he was offered command of the Union army and three days after his native state, Virginia, seceded from the Union.