eflatminor
Classical Liberal
- May 24, 2011
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Yes, the nutjob down the street should have tactical nukes in his basement because "any weapon the government has, the people should have." You should be able to have weaponized anthrax and VX nerve gas because the government has it.
Bear arms means arms you can bear...as in your hands.
Which is what the government, and the people, had. Same as today. Whatever rifle, sidearm, or fireARM the military has, the people can also have. True there are regulatory and licensing requirements for some of those weapons, but the people can own the same firearms the military has.
And you know this how?
If you want to bring this discussion down to what weapons an infantry soldier carries should be available to ordinary citizens, that is more reasonable, yet still too much. The carnage that can be caused just by semi-automatic weapons is considerable, but at least it won't take out whole cities. Just scores of ordinary people. Coming soon to a theater or shopping mall near you.
Yet we know no gun control will stop the maniacs you're referring to. We see them in the US and even in other countries that have banned all guns.
So, if you wish to remain unarmed, cowering in the corner of a gun free zone when the maniac shows up, that's your choice. Please don't impose your cowardice on others.
Hmm, so as long as you can carry it, it's fine and dandy? Suitcase nukes OK then? Flamethrowers, RPG's, claymores, grenades, Stinger missiles? You want people to be able to carry that shit? You nutters should all move to Somalia where you can kill each other without interference.
Actually, the people can own those things. I know a guy that has a collection of tanks. So what, as long as he doesn't hurt anyone with them. What makes you think a government rule against owning a grenade would stop someone intent on using a grenade from getting one?
And how do we know that sensible gun control won't work? It hasn't been tried here. While other countries may have an incident now and then, no country has these horrific incidents as often as we do. We seem to have them every other week.
Because those cities and states in the US with the strictest gun control laws have the worst gun related crime. Further those other countries don't have "an incident now and then", they saw gun related crime SKYROCKET after their bans. And the mass killings you live in fear of? They happen in many countries. For example, some of the worst school massacre ever did not occur in America. They and other examples of mass killings happen in places with massive gun control and even an outright ban on civilian ownership of firearms. Point is, your rules will not stop a crazy guy from doing crazy things. So stop trying to disarm the good guys!
And not cowardice. I'm a gun owner and I have served in the armed forces of the USA. It's called common sense. If people can't get their hands on these weapons, there will be fewer mass killings.
Ah but that's the point. You can't un-invent something. Guns exist and the people will ALWAYS get their hands on them, because they always have.