The UCLA shooting shows how silly opponents of campus carry are....

[2aguy]

When more college students are asking to carry guns for self defense...the usual suspects step up...left wing professors who talk out of their asses about guns....

These left wing anti freedom, anti gunners say that allowing students to carry guns for self defense will make the professor less safe....because if the student gets mad...they can simply shoot the professor....

Do you see how stupid this argument is in light of the UCLA shooting?

UCLA is currently a gun free zone.....normal, law abiding people can't carry their legally owned guns onto the campus......

This guy carried his gun onto the campus and murdered his professor......in a gun free zone....in an extreme gun controlled city....in an extreme gun control state.....

So the guy out to murder his professor......did it....

Normal gun owners......won't.....

 

[Fenton Lum]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn, ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz................

And as we all know, gun violence never occurs outside "gun free zones".

 

[JoeB131]

Oh, dick tiny, the thing was, this guy was a proud gun owner who was able to walk into a gun store in Minnesota and buy a gun,

and then proceeded to kill two people who did something to offend him.

This two things we'll find out about this guy.

1) Everyone in his life knew he was nuts.
2) He was able to purchase a gun legally.

 

[2aguy]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn, ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz................

And as we all know, gun violence never occurs outside "gun free zones".

Mass shootings don't...mass shooters choose gun free zones......thugs look for their thug victims.....

 

[2aguy]

Oh, dick tiny, the thing was, this guy was a proud gun owner who was able to walk into a gun store in Minnesota and buy a gun,

and then proceeded to kill two people who did something to offend him.

This two things we'll find out about this guy.

1) Everyone in his life knew he was nuts.
2) He was able to purchase a gun legally.

And then you have to account for the 356,991,876 million other gun owners who also bought guns but didn't shoot anyone asswipe.....

I am sure the owners of the other 356,991,876 million other guns have also at some point in their lives been offended.......even possibly by having met and interacted with you.......and they haven't used their guns to murder anyone...not even you....

so your whole point is fucking stupid.....

 

[Fenton Lum]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn, ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz................

And as we all know, gun violence never occurs outside "gun free zones".

Mass shootings don't...mass shooters choose gun free zones......thugs look for their thug victims.....

I understand the peceptual reality you've trapped yourself into.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Oh, dick tiny, the thing was, this guy was a proud gun owner who was able to walk into a gun store in Minnesota and buy a gun,

and then proceeded to kill two people who did something to offend him.

This two things we'll find out about this guy.

1) Everyone in his life knew he was nuts.
2) He was able to purchase a gun legally.

And then you have to account for the 356,991,876 million other gun owners who also bought guns but didn't shoot anyone asswipe.....

I am sure the owners of the other 356,991,876 million other guns have also at some point in their lives been offended.......even possibly by having met and interacted with you.......and they haven't used their guns to murder anyone...not even you....

so your whole point is fucking stupid.....

That last line is what many of us think of your "point".

And many of us own and carry. Please shut up, you're rather embarrassing to us.

 

[2aguy]

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn, ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz................

And as we all know, gun violence never occurs outside "gun free zones".

Mass shootings don't...mass shooters choose gun free zones......thugs look for their thug victims.....

I understand the peceptual reality you've trapped yourself into.

What would that be genius....?

 

[2aguy]

Oh, dick tiny, the thing was, this guy was a proud gun owner who was able to walk into a gun store in Minnesota and buy a gun,

and then proceeded to kill two people who did something to offend him.

This two things we'll find out about this guy.

1) Everyone in his life knew he was nuts.
2) He was able to purchase a gun legally.

And then you have to account for the 356,991,876 million other gun owners who also bought guns but didn't shoot anyone asswipe.....

I am sure the owners of the other 356,991,876 million other guns have also at some point in their lives been offended.......even possibly by having met and interacted with you.......and they haven't used their guns to murder anyone...not even you....

so your whole point is fucking stupid.....

That last line is what many of us think of your "point".

And many of us own and carry. Please shut up, you're rather embarrassing to us.

really.......that morons like you will allow your ability to own and carry go away......you are the moron.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Oh, dick tiny, the thing was, this guy was a proud gun owner who was able to walk into a gun store in Minnesota and buy a gun,

and then proceeded to kill two people who did something to offend him.

This two things we'll find out about this guy.

1) Everyone in his life knew he was nuts.
2) He was able to purchase a gun legally.

And then you have to account for the 356,991,876 million other gun owners who also bought guns but didn't shoot anyone asswipe.....

I am sure the owners of the other 356,991,876 million other guns have also at some point in their lives been offended.......even possibly by having met and interacted with you.......and they haven't used their guns to murder anyone...not even you....

so your whole point is fucking stupid.....

You're the only one equating this shooter to the 356,991,876 million other gun owners who also bought guns but didn't shoot anyone asswipe.....

 

[Fenton Lum]

Oh, dick tiny, the thing was, this guy was a proud gun owner who was able to walk into a gun store in Minnesota and buy a gun,

and then proceeded to kill two people who did something to offend him.

This two things we'll find out about this guy.

1) Everyone in his life knew he was nuts.
2) He was able to purchase a gun legally.

And then you have to account for the 356,991,876 million other gun owners who also bought guns but didn't shoot anyone asswipe.....

I am sure the owners of the other 356,991,876 million other guns have also at some point in their lives been offended.......even possibly by having met and interacted with you.......and they haven't used their guns to murder anyone...not even you....

so your whole point is fucking stupid.....

That last line is what many of us think of your "point".

And many of us own and carry. Please shut up, you're rather embarrassing to us.

really.......that morons like you will allow your ability to own and carry go away......you are the moron.

Nope, we won't, that's not in any way related to not agreeing with your every syllable.

 

[2aguy]

Oh, dick tiny, the thing was, this guy was a proud gun owner who was able to walk into a gun store in Minnesota and buy a gun,

and then proceeded to kill two people who did something to offend him.

This two things we'll find out about this guy.

1) Everyone in his life knew he was nuts.
2) He was able to purchase a gun legally.

And then you have to account for the 356,991,876 million other gun owners who also bought guns but didn't shoot anyone asswipe.....

I am sure the owners of the other 356,991,876 million other guns have also at some point in their lives been offended.......even possibly by having met and interacted with you.......and they haven't used their guns to murder anyone...not even you....

so your whole point is fucking stupid.....

You're the only one equating this shooter to the 356,991,876 million other gun owners who also bought guns but didn't shoot anyone asswipe.....

Did you read post #3 genius......joe used the UCLA shooter to attack gun owners....he believes that all people are barely contained sociopaths who will murder someone as soon as they get a gun....he has stated this over and over again....

So I am pointing out how wrong he is.....and how 8,124 gun murders committed 90% of the time by felons with long criminal records who shoot other criminals 70-80% of the time who are also convicted criminals, are not normal, law abiding gun owners who just snapped one day and murdered only because they got mad and had a gun....

So I am pointing out how wrong joe is........

 

[2aguy]

Oh, dick tiny, the thing was, this guy was a proud gun owner who was able to walk into a gun store in Minnesota and buy a gun,

and then proceeded to kill two people who did something to offend him.

This two things we'll find out about this guy.

1) Everyone in his life knew he was nuts.
2) He was able to purchase a gun legally.

And then you have to account for the 356,991,876 million other gun owners who also bought guns but didn't shoot anyone asswipe.....

I am sure the owners of the other 356,991,876 million other guns have also at some point in their lives been offended.......even possibly by having met and interacted with you.......and they haven't used their guns to murder anyone...not even you....

so your whole point is fucking stupid.....

That last line is what many of us think of your "point".

And many of us own and carry. Please shut up, you're rather embarrassing to us.

really.......that morons like you will allow your ability to own and carry go away......you are the moron.

Nope, we won't, that's not in any way related to not agreeing with your every syllable.

You don't have to agree with every syllable...just every fact.....and every truth....and reality...

 

[2aguy]

Oh, dick tiny, the thing was, this guy was a proud gun owner who was able to walk into a gun store in Minnesota and buy a gun,

and then proceeded to kill two people who did something to offend him.

This two things we'll find out about this guy.

1) Everyone in his life knew he was nuts.
2) He was able to purchase a gun legally.

And then you have to account for the 356,991,876 million other gun owners who also bought guns but didn't shoot anyone asswipe.....

I am sure the owners of the other 356,991,876 million other guns have also at some point in their lives been offended.......even possibly by having met and interacted with you.......and they haven't used their guns to murder anyone...not even you....

so your whole point is fucking stupid.....

That last line is what many of us think of your "point".

And many of us own and carry. Please shut up, you're rather embarrassing to us.

really.......that morons like you will allow your ability to own and carry go away......you are the moron.

Nope, we won't, that's not in any way related to not agreeing with your every syllable.

Please.....tell me where I am wrong in what I have posted.......

 

[JoeB131]

And then you have to account for the 356,991,876 million other gun owners who also bought guns but didn't shoot anyone asswipe.....

I am sure the owners of the other 356,991,876 million other guns have also at some point in their lives been offended.......even possibly by having met and interacted with you.......and they haven't used their guns to murder anyone...not even you....

so your whole point is fucking stupid.....

I don't think we have more gun owners in America than we have PEOPLE.

Forgetting that you put the word "Million" after the nine figure number you posted. (which means we'd have TRILLIONS of gun owners in America. Who knew.)

But trying to address the point you were trying to make.

Only about 8 bottles of Tylenol had cynanide tablets in them that killed 7 people in 1982. Johnson and Johnson still recalled MILLIONS of tablets. It worked with law enforcement to prevent more people from being killed and it changed the way its product was packaged to keep this sort of thing from happening again.

Now imagine if J&J acted like the gun industry... They'd say, "Well, nothing we can do to prevent a crazy person from poisoning your product. Clearly safe products are impossible. You are on your own... your tylenol's are probably safe.

 

[westwall]

When more college students are asking to carry guns for self defense...the usual suspects step up...left wing professors who talk out of their asses about guns....

These left wing anti freedom, anti gunners say that allowing students to carry guns for self defense will make the professor less safe....because if the student gets mad...they can simply shoot the professor....

Do you see how stupid this argument is in light of the UCLA shooting?

UCLA is currently a gun free zone.....normal, law abiding people can't carry their legally owned guns onto the campus......

This guy carried his gun onto the campus and murdered his professor......in a gun free zone....in an extreme gun controlled city....in an extreme gun control state.....

So the guy out to murder his professor......did it....

Normal gun owners......won't.....

Even if the professor had been armed the outcome would almost certainly have been the same. When a lunatic wishes to murder and then commit suicide they have nothing to lose and so will nearly 100% of the time be successful. An armed campus is only useful against active shooters. The individual murder/suicide cases would not be affected the majority of the time.

 

[JoeB131]

Even if the professor had been armed the outcome would almost certainly have been the same. When a lunatic wishes to murder and then commit suicide they have nothing to lose and so will nearly 100% of the time be successful. An armed campus is only useful against active shooters. The individual murder/suicide cases would not be affected the majority of the time.

Since an armed civilian has NEVER stopped an active shooter, what's the point? In fact, the only cases of active shooters being stopped are usually by people who know what they are doing- security or police officers. But more often than not they stop themselves - suicide, surrender or just ran out of bullets/people to kill.

But oddly, countries where gun ownership is treated like a privilege and not a right rarely seem to have this problem

 

[JoeB131]

So I am pointing out how wrong he is.....and how 8,124 gun murders committed 90% of the time by felons with long criminal records who shoot other criminals 70-80% of the time who are also convicted criminals, are not normal, law abiding gun owners who just snapped one day and murdered only because they got mad and had a gun....

Yet how come every time we are talking about this issue, it's never the guy with the long criminal record.

Lanza, Holmes, Cho, Roof, Loughner, Mercer - none of these guys fit into the paradigm you put down of the criminal shooting other criminals.

It's usually a crazy person who was able to get a gun too easily shooting innocent people who just happened to be in their way.

 

[westwall]

Even if the professor had been armed the outcome would almost certainly have been the same. When a lunatic wishes to murder and then commit suicide they have nothing to lose and so will nearly 100% of the time be successful. An armed campus is only useful against active shooters. The individual murder/suicide cases would not be affected the majority of the time.

Since an armed civilian has NEVER stopped an active shooter, what's the point? In fact, the only cases of active shooters being stopped are usually by people who know what they are doing- security or police officers. But more often than not they stop themselves - suicide, surrender or just ran out of bullets/people to kill.

But oddly, countries where gun ownership is treated like a privilege and not a right rarely seem to have this problem

So, are you simply lying or did you not bother to even check? I will guess you're lying based on prior experience with you.

10 Cases Where An Armed Citizen Took Down An Active Shooter

10 Cases Where An Armed Citizen Stopped An Active Shooter

 

[2aguy]

When more college students are asking to carry guns for self defense...the usual suspects step up...left wing professors who talk out of their asses about guns....

These left wing anti freedom, anti gunners say that allowing students to carry guns for self defense will make the professor less safe....because if the student gets mad...they can simply shoot the professor....

Do you see how stupid this argument is in light of the UCLA shooting?

UCLA is currently a gun free zone.....normal, law abiding people can't carry their legally owned guns onto the campus......

This guy carried his gun onto the campus and murdered his professor......in a gun free zone....in an extreme gun controlled city....in an extreme gun control state.....

So the guy out to murder his professor......did it....

Normal gun owners......won't.....

Even if the professor had been armed the outcome would almost certainly have been the same. When a lunatic wishes to murder and then commit suicide they have nothing to lose and so will nearly 100% of the time be successful. An armed campus is only useful against active shooters. The individual murder/suicide cases would not be affected the majority of the time.

I agree but that is not my point in this...the anti gunners say they don't want campus carry because they are afraid students carrying guns will lead to angry students shooting them...simply because they are carrying guns and are mad...this case shows that if a student is mad....gun free zones don't stop them....

Normal, law abiding students with legally carried guns are not a threat to left wing professors....

This event shows the left wing argument is wrong.