The truth of the matter is that America sucks in many ways

[Dr Grump]

That's based on the "Human Development Index," which is pure socialist propaganda. It doesn't measure anything other than the opinions of socialists.

No it's not.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

1) Our infrastructure system is one of the worst in the developed world.
because it requires revenue to repair these things, thats money that our government has been forced to take from the associated funds to pay for social programs
2) Our child poverty rate is the worst among developed nations.
mainly because we have so many people that refuse to take responsibility for their famiiies, and to make it even worse, we refuse to close our border to the poverty stricken uneducated filth that only helps to bring our numbers down. Think how many non citizen children are failing in our schools because the parents forced them into a country where they cant communicate
3) Our GDP spending per person on healthcare is high in comparison to other nations.
Again, or numbers would be much lower if we did not have to pay for the illegals health care when they entered our country in the dark of night. It falls again on personal responsibility

4) Our healthcare system is ranked among the worst of developed nations due to its high cost to consumers and ineligibility for millions of others.
Nobody is without care in this country, if ours is the worst, then it makes no sense that the majority of innovations come from the U.S, it makes no sense that people are coming to the U.S for care when their own countries fail them. Innovation is not free, we could certainly bring this number in line with others if we would only stop funding the science that is involved in R&D
5) Trump - an unprecedented embarrassment to governments everywhere - will be president. We are the laughing stock of the world (note: I wouldn't say this if ANY other republican had won instead). Opinion, you are claiming him to be an embarrassment before he even takes office, are you psychic? after 8 years of the world watching the U.S apologize for everything and kiss the ass of the very terrorists that want to take us down, Im having a difficult time trying to see where Trump could be more of an embarrassment than the cowardly ***** that has occupied the office for the last 8 years

6) We are the only country on earth that has an incoming government that denies the existence of climate change. Lets look at that for what it is. We are the only country on earth that has a government smart enough to realize that there could be reasons beyond mans control that are causing global warming. The problem is that if the truth were to get out we would find that there is nothing we can do to stop a natural cycle in the earths climate and the chaos would be catastrophic.Just like the new ice age scare of the 70s, science and government jump on the easiest answers that come up. To totally ignore that there might be other causes would be irresponsible at best

7) Water supplies across the country have dangerous amounts of lead in the water. It's the emergency that no one in the mainstream media will cover.
And yet the U.S still has some of the cleanest drinking water in the world, lead is natural occurring and can be easily removed from potable water, the same goes for Iron, copper and even radium, all easily removed. There is not a house in this country that could take the water coming in and make it cleaner than bottle water for under 6K, much less in most cases. People once again are depending on the government to do everything for them.

8) This country has the widest income disparity than any developed country on earth.
And as long as we have a system that allows people to succeed based on their own initiative, we will continue to see that. when we keep letting millions of ignorant uneducated pieces of shit to sneak in and stay we can only expect to see that number grows

America kind of blows. The bad slightly outweighs all the good.
If you and everyone else that thought like you were to pack up and leave this country, the easily fixable issues that you brought up would correct themselves just as fast as you all left.
You are the reason behind this. our schools will never get better as long as we keep reducing the requirements in order to make it fair to Toneshia and Tyrell. You all want to reduce the requirements and then turn around and complain that the product of those schools is not adequate. again, your own fault. America isnt what blows its people with your mindset that blow Please leave so the rest of us can bring back a United States that actually works.

You're right there isn't enough revenue for it. Medicare and Medicaid are expensive programs. They require a lot of revenue. How convenient you just ignore our bloated defense budget. It is easy to cut defense spending and make the wealthy pay their fair share to generate revenue to fix the problem.

And no, the reason child poverty is so high is because of low wages. This is despite the fact that corporate profits are at an all time high.

Lol ok so your argument is that lead is easy to remove. You know what's not easy? Replacing the pipes that cause it. That's a failure across the country right now.

Okay there is a huge difference between going to the emergency room and getting long term treatment for life threatening illnesses.

Stop pretending what Trump says and who he appoints is not important.

YOU and republicans do not know jack shit about the science of man made climate change. You just pretend you understand it. Why do I believe it's a real phenomenon? It's not because of what any democrat said. It's because I know it has a GLOBAL SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS.

Wages are way behind on the rising cost of living. How is the private market going to solve that problem if it never has? Wages have been mostly stagnant for decades.

What I do isn't important. Me leaving the USA doesn't solve any of the problems now does it? Obviously this thread isn't about me.

again with make the wealthy pay their fair share.
the wealthy pay more in taxes in one quarter than you will make in your entire life. How about you try to explain in some intelligent way how they are not paying their fair share of the debt yet you are.
right there, that response causes me to believe you are an idiot that cant think beyond what you are told to believe, so why would anyone even consider reading any more of your ignorance?
Not sure you understand this but, medicare and medicaid are not at all the same. Medicare is paid for through payroll contributions, medicaid is another freebie program to pacify the lazy bastards that are responsible for 90% of the problems in this country.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

My caveat is that America is also great in many ways. The best in the world for a few things.


However, a lot of things about this country really suck.

1) Our infrastructure system is one of the worst in the developed world.

2) Our child poverty rate is the worst among developed nations.

3) Our GDP spending per person on healthcare is high in comparison to other nations.

4) Our healthcare system is ranked among the worst of developed nations due to its high cost to consumers and ineligibility for millions of others.

5) Trump - an unprecedented embarrassment to governments everywhere - will be president. We are the laughing stock of the world (note: I wouldn't say this if ANY other republican had won instead).

6) We are the only country on earth that has an incoming government that denies the existence of climate change.

7) Water supplies across the country have dangerous amounts of lead in the water. It's the emergency that no one in the mainstream media will cover.

8) This country has the widest income disparity than any developed country on earth.

America kind of blows. The bad slightly outweighs all the good.

The only laughing stock here is YOU.

Nonstop crying and whining and Trump hasn't even been sworn in yet. May God have mercy on you poor bastards cause I won't

 

[bripat9643]

That's based on the "Human Development Index," which is pure socialist propaganda. It doesn't measure anything other than the opinions of socialists.

No it's not.

Really? What objective criteria is it based on?

 

[Dr Grump]

Really? What objective criteria is it based on?

"The Human Development Index (HDI) is a combined statistic of mortality rate, education, economy, and per capita income indicators. A country scores higher HDI when the life expectancy is higher, the literacy rate is higher, the GDP per capita is higher, the fertility rate is lower, and the inflation rate is lower."

Seems pretty objective to me.

 

[Correll]

Really? What objective criteria is it based on?

"The Human Development Index (HDI) is a combined statistic of mortality rate, education, economy, and per capita income indicators. A country scores higher HDI when the life expectancy is higher, the literacy rate is higher, the GDP per capita is higher, the fertility rate is lower, and the inflation rate is lower."

Seems pretty objective to me.

Well, if they SAY they are objective, then they must be.

 

[bripat9643]

Really? What objective criteria is it based on?

"The Human Development Index (HDI) is a combined statistic of mortality rate, education, economy, and per capita income indicators. A country scores higher HDI when the life expectancy is higher, the literacy rate is higher, the GDP per capita is higher, the fertility rate is lower, and the inflation rate is lower."

Seems pretty objective to me.

You're lying. According to the web paged you link it's based on the following:

Purchasing power Index - a bullshit measure that measures the same thing as cost of living index. Both are incorporated in the PPP (purchasing power parity GDP)

Safety Index - what kind of bullshit is this? I'm sure it includes making possession of firearms illegal. It's another bullshit leftwing propaganda yardstick that has no objective meaning.

Healthcare index - a bullshit yardstick that measures how socialist your healthcare system is.

Cost of living Index - already discussed

property price to income ratio - another manifestation of purchasing power parity. By any measure, Americans have the largest homes on average in the entire world.

Traffic time commute index - what kind of bullshit measure is this?

Pollution index - more bullshit since one your environment is reasonably clean any further improvements aren't noticeable. America's environment is more than clean enough. It also gives points for leftwing boondoggles like so-called "green energy" that impoverish the population.

Climate Index - National governments can't do anything about the climate.

 

[Dr Grump]

Really? What objective criteria is it based on?

"The Human Development Index (HDI) is a combined statistic of mortality rate, education, economy, and per capita income indicators. A country scores higher HDI when the life expectancy is higher, the literacy rate is higher, the GDP per capita is higher, the fertility rate is lower, and the inflation rate is lower."

Seems pretty objective to me.

Well, if they SAY they are objective, then they must be.

So they make up the education, per capita incomes, mortality rate etc of countries? Ookkaay..

 

[Dr Grump]

You're lying. According to the web paged you link it's based on the following:

Purchasing power Index - a bullshit measure that measures the same thing as cost of living index. Both are incorporated in the PPP (purchasing power parity GDP)

Safety Index - what kind of bullshit is this? I'm sure it includes making possession of firearms illegal. It's another bullshit leftwing propaganda yardstick that has no objective meaning.

Healthcare index - a bullshit yardstick that measures how socialist your healthcare system is.

Cost of living Index - already discussed

property price to income ratio - another manifestation of purchasing power parity. By any measure, Americans have the largest homes on average in the entire world.

Traffic time commute index - what kind of bullshit measure is this?

Pollution index - more bullshit since one your environment is reasonably clean any further improvements aren't noticeable. America's environment is more than clean enough. It also gives points for leftwing boondoggles like so-called "green energy" that impoverish the population.

Climate Index - National governments can't do anything about the climate.

How can I be lying? I cut and pasted it from the website.

As for the rest of the rant, basically you're saying "USA! USA! USA! It's the greatest country in the world!!! How dare any other nation supercede us!!!! USA! USA! USA!!"

Gee, who to believe: A website that has dedicated statisticians with no horse in the race and have probably spent thousands of hours compiling the list, or some fat, bald neocon whacko messageboard poster? Real hard to decide.

As for property price to income ratio and traffic time commute index, you obviously have no idea what they mean. At the end of the day you are BEYOND unqualified to even comment on the link and its findings.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Errrr...make America great again?

 

[ScienceRocks]

Errrr...make America great again?

1. Fix trade to make it fair
2. Fix our educational system(Don't gut public education!)
3. Rebuild and repair our infrastructure be it our roads, bridges, electrical or water.
4. Fund science more
5. Endorse a national policy of two parents. End feminism.
6. Cracked down on the gangs in our innercities.
7. Fix our healthcare system with single payer that is used world wide and would cost 1/3rd as much.

This would make this country great

 

[Political Junky]

The country would be much better off with a strong middle class.

Wages must go up, unions must return, and the wealthy must start paying their fair share of taxes.

Trump might do that.

Trump said Americans make too much.

 

[owebo]

The country would be much better off with a strong middle class.

Wages must go up, unions must return, and the wealthy must start paying their fair share of taxes.

Trump might do that.

Trump said Americans make too much.

Obama said **** Americans.....

 

[Muhammed]

My caveat is that America is also great in many ways. The best in the world for a few things.


However, a lot of things about this country really suck.

1) Our infrastructure system is one of the worst in the developed world.

2) Our child poverty rate is the worst among developed nations.

3) Our GDP spending per person on healthcare is high in comparison to other nations.

4) Our healthcare system is ranked among the worst of developed nations due to its high cost to consumers and ineligibility for millions of others.

5) Trump - an unprecedented embarrassment to governments everywhere - will be president. We are the laughing stock of the world (note: I wouldn't say this if ANY other republican had won instead).

6) We are the only country on earth that has an incoming government that denies the existence of climate change.

7) Water supplies across the country have dangerous amounts of lead in the water. It's the emergency that no one in the mainstream media will cover.

8) This country has the widest income disparity than any developed country on earth.

America kind of blows. The bad slightly outweighs all the good.

How long have you been suffering from those types of paranoid delusions?

 

[Mac1958]

Maybe we could challenge our kids instead of pampering them.

Good idea. We should bring back spankings for being out of line in the classroom and teach discipline.

Huh?

Is that what you got from my post?
.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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Lol so your whole argument is that the US has fewer blackouts? That actually doesn't say much about our entire infrastructure or the stability of the grid itself.

America's Infrastructure Ranks... 25th In The World

Our infrastructure ranks among the worst in the developed world and here is proof. Our electrical grid specifically ranks among the worst. In fact, scientists warn that it is an impending failure.

U.S. Electrical Grid on the Edge of Failure

I actually subscribe to Scientific American, it is one of the few magazines that I think is worth reading.

That said, you failed to read your own source;

{Benjamin Carreras, a physicist at Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee who has conducted similar work, says that network theory can be useful for providing insight into electric grids but must be complemented with more complex models that attempt to represent both the physical realities and the responsiveness of the modern electric grid. Although in some cases adding long lines can benefit the overall stability of an electric system, Carreras’ work suggests that in certain circumstances such an approach allows problems to propagate even farther.

“More connections may stabilize some processes, by, for instance, increasing the number of paths to generators, but also may destabilize others,” Carreras says. “One cannot make generic statements on this topic.”}

What I like about SA is that they present some pretty wild speculation, which is thought provoking.

What you were not able to grasp is that this IS just wild speculation, based on the mathematical model which has no relation to the real world.

Our electric grid is the oldest in the world. America was electrified in the 1870's, decades before Europe. The North East as a result, and power lines that are nearly a century old.

Regardless, the reliability of the system remains very high.

Here is some factual data.

America’s Electricity Grid: Outdated or Underrated?

 

[Uncensored2008]

We already spend more per student on education than any other country in the world, so money is hardly the problem. We are spending triple what we did 30 years ago and education has gotten worse, not better.

Yes, but as long as you pay your tuition, Yale and Harvard will give you a degree in ethnic studies or social justice......

 

[Billy000]

[

Lol so your whole argument is that the US has fewer blackouts? That actually doesn't say much about our entire infrastructure or the stability of the grid itself.

America's Infrastructure Ranks... 25th In The World

Our infrastructure ranks among the worst in the developed world and here is proof. Our electrical grid specifically ranks among the worst. In fact, scientists warn that it is an impending failure.

U.S. Electrical Grid on the Edge of Failure

I actually subscribe to Scientific American, it is one of the few magazines that I think is worth reading.

That said, you failed to read your own source;

{Benjamin Carreras, a physicist at Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee who has conducted similar work, says that network theory can be useful for providing insight into electric grids but must be complemented with more complex models that attempt to represent both the physical realities and the responsiveness of the modern electric grid. Although in some cases adding long lines can benefit the overall stability of an electric system, Carreras’ work suggests that in certain circumstances such an approach allows problems to propagate even farther.

“More connections may stabilize some processes, by, for instance, increasing the number of paths to generators, but also may destabilize others,” Carreras says. “One cannot make generic statements on this topic.”}

What I like about SA is that they present some pretty wild speculation, which is thought provoking.

What you were not able to grasp is that this IS just wild speculation, based on the mathematical model which has no relation to the real world.

Our electric grid is the oldest in the world. America was electrified in the 1870's, decades before Europe. The North East as a result, and power lines that are nearly a century old.

Regardless, the reliability of the system remains very high.

Here is some factual data.

America’s Electricity Grid: Outdated or Underrated?

Lol Scientific America is all about "wild speculation"? Do you not understand how science works? That quote you gave me can be summarized as saying they aren't sure what particular solutions will work for certain problems. That doesn't mean the system isn't a joke right now. It just isn't entirely clear how to fix it.

Also, the army corps of engineers rates our electrical grid as a D-. Not only that, but our entire infrastructure system is poor in comparison to other developed nation.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Lol Scientific America is all about "wild speculation"? Do you not understand how science works?

Can you spell "hypothesis" retard?

That quote you gave me can be summarized as saying they aren't sure what particular solutions will work for certain problems. That doesn't mean the system isn't a joke right now. It just isn't entirely clear how to fix it.

I love it when leftists try and appear smart.

No moron, we have and Israeli physicist with a pet formula. Physicists are mostly theoretical mathematicians, which is one step removed from a guru in India.

Also, the army corps of engineers rates our electrical grid as a D-. Not only that, but our entire infrastructure system is poor in comparison to other developed nation.

Then move to North Korea and be happy, it's all you ever dreamed of.

 

[usmbguest5318]

8) This country has the widest income disparity than any developed country on earth.

You probably need to show some sort of credible evidence this one is so, and that evidence would need to be more recent than 2014 and clear about its basis for measurement.

In 2010/2011:

Inequality among OECD countries - 2014....The U.S. ranks fourth by Gini coefficient bases of measurement.