The TRUTH Behind Homosexuality and Mental Illness

[Markainion]

Lets face it.

Why do some gays have an accent?

Why do some gays act stereotypically more feminine than women do?

Many in my opinion also act very childish for an adult their age.

This simply can’t be explained by genetics and biological disorders there is something of a social choice going on here as well.

 

[dilloduck]

That I don't agree with - I think homosexual urges aren't passed-on; I'm just saying people have different levels of resistance to their urges.

however drinking and eating are sanctioned--gambling too. If the govt could make a buck out of gays IT would be sanctioned too!

 

[dilloduck]

Lets face it.

Why do some gays have an accent?

Why do some gays act stereotypically more feminine than women do?

Many in my opinion also act very childish for an adult their age.

This simply can’t be explained by genetics and biological disorders there is something of a social choice going on here as well.

maybe its both---what difference does it make?

 

[007]

Main Entry: 1 gay
Pronunciation: 'gA
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French gai
1 a : happily excited : MERRY b : keenly alive and exuberant : having or inducing high spirits
2 a : BRIGHT, LIVELY <gay sunny meadows> b : brilliant in color

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There's NOTHING "gay" about being queer.

 

[Markainion]

maybe its both---what difference does it make?

I don't know if it does, but it might help their case if gays confess to the fact that some of their behaviors are deliberate. Not born that way.

 

[dilloduck]

however drinking and eating are sanctioned--gambling too. If the govt could make a buck out of gays IT would be sanctioned too!

Easy enough question----why does society sanction some harmful and sinful behavior yet condemn others??

 

[007]

Easy enough question----why does society sanction some harmful and sinful behavior yet condemn others??

Boy, let me know if you get an answer to that question, and who answered it.

Maybe we could get them to tell us why we society is letting this illegal immigration problem continue as well?

 

[007]

Easy enough question----why does society sanction some harmful and sinful behavior yet condemn others??

But to be specific, as this thread is about the truth behind the queer agenda, society will never completely "sanction" perverted behavior, because the majority will never condone men screwing other men in the brown eye as "normal". That's simple enough.

 

[SmarterThanYou]

Boy, let me know if you get an answer to that question, and who answered it.

Maybe we could get them to tell us why we society is letting this illegal immigration problem continue as well?

because we won't vote in someone with the balls to tackle it?

 

[007]

because we won't vote in someone with the balls to tackle it?

Can't argue with ya when you're right DK.

 

[nakedemperor]

Lets face it.

Why do some gays have an accent?

Why do some gays act stereotypically more feminine than women do?

Many in my opinion also act very childish for an adult their age.

This simply can’t be explained by genetics and biological disorders there is something of a social choice going on here as well.

Indeed. Genetic or not, psychological or not, homosexuality as a positive or negative thing must be examined vis-a-vis its social manifestations and repercussions. The "TRUTH" about homosexuality is that there's nothing wrong with it; as long as a homosexual practices safe sex (just like aaaany other person), homosexual sex is kosher. I'm not saying anal sex is for me, in fact it weirds me out, but far be it from me to tell someone what they can or cannot do in the privacy of their own home. The other "truth" is that homosexuality is a sin for Christian conservatives. Can't really argue with "the word of a god". But let's stop treating homosexuality as a problem (it can be psychologically manifested but not be a disease), and start treating STDs as they appear in the homosexual community as a public health problem, not a "gay" problem.

Also, we cannot universally equate homosexuality or bisexuality with anal sex.

 

[dmp]

The "TRUTH" about homosexuality is that there's nothing wrong with it; as long as a homosexual practices safe sex (just like aaaany other person), homosexual sex is kosher.

I would argue by it's nature, homosexual sex is dangerous both physically and mentally, to the participants. Unless said participants are two hot chicks.

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Nice to see you around.

 

[007]

The "TRUTH" about homosexuality is that there's nothing wrong with it; as long as a homosexual practices safe sex (just like aaaany other person), homosexual sex is kosher.

I'm always amazed naked how you can drop in here and spout that malarky about a perversion that's about as abnormal as swallowing molten lead as if it were factual. It makes me laugh though, and I have to give you credit for looking silly and not minding.

 

[KarlMarx]

Indeed. Genetic or not, psychological or not, homosexuality as a positive or negative thing must be examined vis-a-vis its social manifestations and repercussions. The "TRUTH" about homosexuality is that there's nothing wrong with it; as long as a homosexual practices safe sex (just like aaaany other person), homosexual sex is kosher. I'm not saying anal sex is for me, in fact it weirds me out, but far be it from me to tell someone what they can or cannot do in the privacy of their own home. The other "truth" is that homosexuality is a sin for Christian conservatives. Can't really argue with "the word of a god". But let's stop treating homosexuality as a problem (it can be psychologically manifested but not be a disease), and start treating STDs as they appear in the homosexual community as a public health problem, not a "gay" problem.

Also, we cannot universally equate homosexuality or bisexuality with anal sex.

So says you. Homosexuality used to be considered a mental illness, until the APA (American Psychiatry Association) voted that it wasn't. Not before or since has the APA ever voted out a mental condition. And the voting was done purely on political merit, not sober scientific study.

And, yes, homosexuals do suffer from more STDs, abuse drugs and alcohol, etc than straights. Even before AIDS it was a well known fact that homosexuals got Hepatitis more often than straights.

And while we're at it, yes, let's treat STDs like STDs and let's start with AIDS. No more privacy protection for HIV and AIDS sufferers. If you have the disease, you should be put in a database, you should be required to name ALL of your sex partners, so that they can be tested and treated.... and more than likely, quarantined. Also, if you are and AIDS victim and are caught having sex, it should be considered first degree felony assault or attempted murder. That's how we combat other diseases, let's not treat AIDS any differently just because (as we all know) it's a disease whose primary victims are gay/bisexual men and IV drug abusers.

 

[nakedemperor]

So says you. Homosexuality used to be considered a mental illness, until the APA (American Psychiatry Association) voted that it wasn't. Not before or since has the APA ever voted out a mental condition. And the voting was done purely on political merit, not sober scientific study.

For a long time it was 'legitimate science' that african americans were mentally inferior than caucasians. Similarly, homosexuality was considered a mental illness because of social pressure and historical bias (no sober science). Ergo, a phenomenon with no reason to be labeled an 'illness' was removed from that list due to the lack of evidence.

 

[Trinity]

Main Entry: 1 gay
Pronunciation: 'gA
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French gai
1 a : happily excited : MERRY b : keenly alive and exuberant : having or inducing high spirits
2 a : BRIGHT, LIVELY <gay sunny meadows> b : brilliant in color

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There's NOTHING "gay" about being queer.

Have to agree with pale on this one, I had said something the other day about someone being gay and my 9 year old corrected me :scratch: he said uh mom, gay means happy, I think the word you are looking for is queer! :shocked: but he is correct!

 

[nakedemperor]

Etymology shifts according to public use and definition of a word, not the other way around. Hence, gay means homosexual in this day and age.

A good example of this phenomenon is the word "queer"; its original definition had nothing to do with sexuality but now it does.

Why accept one shift and not the other? When was the last time you heard someone come off a rollercoaster, cotton candy in hand, yelling, 'Oh, I'm so GAY today!' ?

 

[Trinity]

Etymology shifts according to public use and definition of a word, not the other way around. Hence, gay means homosexual in this day and age.

A good example of this phenomenon is the word "queer"; its original definition had nothing to do with sexuality but now it does.

Why accept one shift and not the other? When was the last time you heard someone come off a rollercoaster, cotton candy in hand, yelling, 'Oh, I'm so GAY today!' ?

queer (kwîr)
adj. queer·er, queer·est
1. Deviating from the expected or normal; strange: a queer situation.
2. Odd or unconventional, as in behavior; eccentric. See Synonyms at strange.
3. Of a questionable nature or character; suspicious.
4. Slang Fake; counterfeit.
5. Feeling slightly ill; queasy.
6. Offensive Slang Homosexual.
7. Usage Problem Of or relating to lesbians, gay men, bisexuals, or transgendered people.
n.
1. Offensive Slang Used as a disparaging term for a homosexual person.
2. Usage Problem A lesbian, gay male, bisexual, or transgendered person.
tr.v. queered, queer·ing, queers Slang
1. To ruin or thwart: "might try to queer the Games with anything from troop movements . . . to a bomb attack" Newsweek.
2. To put (someone) in a bad position.


Hmm seems to me 1. pretty much sums it up!

 

[dilloduck]

I'd say "granted" dillo, because science has proven alcoholics have little to no control over how much they drink. There's scientific proof. And if I'm not mistaken, there's some proof that the some people metabolize and store the food they eat differently, so as some people can eat anything and not get fat, when another eats a peanut and gains three pounds.

Thing with queers though is, there just isn't any PROOF they were born that way. For all intents and purposes, at this point in time, all being queer boils down is, two men that "choose" to engage in sex with one another, simple because "they wanted to".

I guess the real truth is that no one knows for sure because there is also no PROOF that they weren't born that way.It may even be that some chose it and some were born with a pre-disposition towards homosexuality. It is also true that society and our government will turn a blind eye towards some "sinful, harmful and unnatural" behavior while at the same time condemn others. Do I smell moral relativism again?

 

[007]

While we're at it...

******

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
****** derivies through the French language fagot from the Latin facus, meaning a bundle (see fascies), the English language word being attested from the 13th century in the meaning of a bundle of sticks or branches, usually bound together. It is most commonly used in reference to wood intended for use as firewood.

What fool hath added water to the sea,

Or brought a ****** to bright-burning Troy?

(William Shakespeare, Titus Andronicus, Act II, scene III)
In metallurgy, ****** refers to a bundle of iron pieces destined to be worked into bars by hammering or rolling at a high enough temperature to fuse them together.
A ****** is a type of food eaten mainly in the United Kingdom.
****** is a slang term used (usually pejoratively) to refer to gay men.
A ****** is an archaic unit of measurement.
See also ***. Not to be confused with fagotto.