The trump admin is already busy bending reality to its will.

[berg80]

There has been so much ******* noise about this, like everything else, and it's been so politicized, like everything else, that I'm glad I've only paid so much attention.

I remember some early talk, in the first few days, about a "wet market", whatever that is.

But since then, it's just been my understanding that it was a lab leak. Okay, got it.

It's a shame this country can no longer communicate with itself.

You can bank on the fact that part of the reason Dotard withdrew from the WHO is because its conclusion favored the natural occurrence theory.

 

[berg80]

You really have no clue how things work, do ya?

Actually, I do. trump tells you to believe something and you believe it without question.

I have no idea which theory about COVID is correct. I also know neither does the CIA. But they have declared certainty now that a trumper is in charge. What a coincidence.

 

[theHawk]

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They also struggle with the FACT that the Wuhan lab was indeed manipulating viruses. It was their entire mission. Most of it funded illegally by the US. The NIH and Fauci should be in jail for it.

 

[theHawk]

Actually, I do. trump tells you to believe something and you believe it without question.

President Trump didn’t “make up” that the COVID virus broke out in the Wuhan Lab. That was reported early on.

You just can’t stand when President Trump tells the American people the truth, because it exposes the corrupt pieces of shit you support. That Obama authorized the NIH to do illegal “gain of function” research by outsourcing it to corrupt shitty places like China and Ukraine.

 

[berg80]

Bwahahaha, “I have no dog in this fight”….says the TDS moron.


Now you are pushing pro-CCP propaganda, “we didn’t do it!”


There is ZERO proof this virus came naturally from an animal. It was created in their Wuhan Lab, funded by Fauci. The first people to fall ill were literally scientists that worked there.

Why do you think the CIA's statement on the new assessment didn't give a reason for the change?

 

[berg80]

You just can’t stand when President Trump tells the American people the truth

I'm still waiting for that to happen.

 

[Woodznutz]

You can bank on the fact that part of the reason Dotard withdrew from the WHO is because its conclusion favored the natural occurrence theory.

The WHO's conclusion lets China off the hook. If the virus 'developed' naturally in the wild there should be some evidence of that. So far, none.

 

[Nostra]

A top Chinese official on Monday denied suggestions from the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency that the Covid-19 pandemic was triggered by the virus leaking from a lab.

“The conclusion that a laboratory leak is extremely unlikely was reached by the joint China–WHO expert team based on field visits to relevant laboratories in Wuhan,” said Mao Ning, Beijing's Foreign Ministry spokesperson, at a press briefing, according to news agency AFP.

Mao added that “this has been widely recognized by the international community and the scientific community.” Several studies have said that the virus originated naturally, arguing it may have spread among people who were exposed to infected animals sold at a wet market in the Chinese city of Wuhan.

But officials in Washington have harbored suspicions that the virus may have originated in a lab, before leaking out to the general population and causing a pandemic that killed millions of people and sent much of the world into harsh lockdowns in 2020 and 2021.

Over the weekend, the CIA issued a new public assessment about Covid just two days after former Republican lawmaker John Ratcliffe was sworn in as its new director, in the new American administration under President Donald Trump.

China hits back at CIA over Covid lab leak accusation

Several studies have said the virus originated naturally — but U.S. intelligence changed its assessment over the weekend.

www.politico.eu

I have no dog in this fight. I always felt the accusation about the lab leak was trump's way of distracting the public away from his incompetent response to COVID. Something he's very good at. But I looked at the debate over the source of COVID being more of scientific than political significance.

The larger concern here being a trump appointee already using his authority to change a CIA assessment to please the boss. Authoritarians benefit from controlling the flow of information. It's just another example of how trump is doing what authoritarians do. It comes quite naturally to him.

 

[berg80]

Imaginary emergencies are powering Trump’s agenda​

The U.S. oil and gas industry is booming, with production at record levels, while renewable sources of energy are expanding at a healthy clip and gasoline prices are at their lowest level in more than three years.

To President Donald Trump, all this good news amounts to a “national emergency.” Or so he claimed in one of the flurry of executive orders signed on his first day in office.

Dire, too, is the situation at the southern border, where, in another emergency declaration, Trump deemed there to be an “invasion” taking place, which is causing “widespread chaos.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/01/27/emergency-powers-trump-biden/

trump is his own reality distortion field.

 

[marvin martian]

A top Chinese official on Monday denied suggestions from the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency that the Covid-19 pandemic was triggered by the virus leaking from a lab.

“The conclusion that a laboratory leak is extremely unlikely was reached by the joint China–WHO expert team based on field visits to relevant laboratories in Wuhan,” said Mao Ning, Beijing's Foreign Ministry spokesperson, at a press briefing, according to news agency AFP.

Mao added that “this has been widely recognized by the international community and the scientific community.” Several studies have said that the virus originated naturally, arguing it may have spread among people who were exposed to infected animals sold at a wet market in the Chinese city of Wuhan.

But officials in Washington have harbored suspicions that the virus may have originated in a lab, before leaking out to the general population and causing a pandemic that killed millions of people and sent much of the world into harsh lockdowns in 2020 and 2021.

Over the weekend, the CIA issued a new public assessment about Covid just two days after former Republican lawmaker John Ratcliffe was sworn in as its new director, in the new American administration under President Donald Trump.

China hits back at CIA over Covid lab leak accusation

Several studies have said the virus originated naturally — but U.S. intelligence changed its assessment over the weekend.

www.politico.eu

I have no dog in this fight. I always felt the accusation about the lab leak was trump's way of distracting the public away from his incompetent response to COVID. Something he's very good at. But I looked at the debate over the source of COVID being more of scientific than political significance.

The larger concern here being a trump appointee already using his authority to change a CIA assessment to please the boss. Authoritarians benefit from controlling the flow of information. It's just another example of how trump is doing what authoritarians do. It comes quite naturally to him.

^^^Get a load of this, everyone! A guy who believes men get pregnant is talking about someone else "bending reality". LOL!

 

[berg80]

Why do trumples believe trump's desire to tear apart government's bedrock institutions is a good thing? Because he told them to believe it. Why? Because it furthers his chaos agenda. Why? Because it's easier for authoritarians to step in to the void created by chaos.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

The overwhelming amount of evidence(and common sense) points to COVID leaking from a lab. You have been lied to in order to protect Fauci and others. It is amazing just what you people will believe.

Fauci sends millions in COVID gain of function research to Wuhan, covid starts in Wuhan.

It probably just came from animals though.

 

[MarathonMike]

A top Chinese official on Monday denied suggestions from the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency that the Covid-19 pandemic was triggered by the virus leaking from a lab.

“The conclusion that a laboratory leak is extremely unlikely was reached by the joint China–WHO expert team based on field visits to relevant laboratories in Wuhan,” said Mao Ning, Beijing's Foreign Ministry spokesperson, at a press briefing, according to news agency AFP.

Mao added that “this has been widely recognized by the international community and the scientific community.” Several studies have said that the virus originated naturally, arguing it may have spread among people who were exposed to infected animals sold at a wet market in the Chinese city of Wuhan.

But officials in Washington have harbored suspicions that the virus may have originated in a lab, before leaking out to the general population and causing a pandemic that killed millions of people and sent much of the world into harsh lockdowns in 2020 and 2021.

Over the weekend, the CIA issued a new public assessment about Covid just two days after former Republican lawmaker John Ratcliffe was sworn in as its new director, in the new American administration under President Donald Trump.

China hits back at CIA over Covid lab leak accusation

Several studies have said the virus originated naturally — but U.S. intelligence changed its assessment over the weekend.

www.politico.eu

I have no dog in this fight. I always felt the accusation about the lab leak was trump's way of distracting the public away from his incompetent response to COVID. Something he's very good at. But I looked at the debate over the source of COVID being more of scientific than political significance.

The larger concern here being a trump appointee already using his authority to change a CIA assessment to please the boss. Authoritarians benefit from controlling the flow of information. It's just another example of how trump is doing what authoritarians do. It comes quite naturally to him.

NothingBerger80 with another nothing burger thread.

 

[Hum Dinger]

What we need to understand is that whether this horrible virus spread from a wet market or from a Bio-Weapons lab, we definitely SHOULD NOT wear masks or take vaccines to protect ourselves from it!!!

Right?

 

[Votto]

The overwhelming amount of evidence(and common sense) points to COVID leaking from a lab. You have been lied to in order to protect Fauci and others. It is amazing just what you people will believe.

These people probably still wear cloth masks that do nothing and think there is scientific evidence to suggest you should social distance 6 feet apart, when in reality, they are pulling this out of their Left wing arse.

Pulling out of WHO is the best thing Trump could do.

The problem with the Left is that they never learn, they just double down on idiocy.

 

[luiza]

Another Fake News OP from our resident Troll .

No mention of Fort Detrick
No mention of Chapel Hill , north Carolina
No mention of the full circumstances of the move from Chapel Hill to Wuhan .
No mention of the number of the Wuhan team who had moved from Chapel Hill .

And for lazy people :-
Assume every CIA release is deliberately 100% Fake , and you will be right at least 90% of the time.
Ditto , WHO.,
Ditto CDC .
Ditto NIH.
As for Baal Hates -----------

 

[luiza]

It's clear that airliners full of people flying out of Wuhan, that Xi knew to be infected, was done on purpose.

They even held the World Military Games in Wuhan in October 2019 to spread it .

Obviously coincidence, but the US sent the smallest team in memory and finished in around 35th position -- unheard of .

 

[Votto]

They even held the World Military Games in Wuhan in October 2019 to spread it .

Obviously coincidence, but the US sent the smallest team in memory and finished in around 35th position -- unheard of .

Huge bureaucratic agencies with no over sight and accountability are the bread and butter of Left wing tyranny.

Yea, let the "experts" think for you and live your life for you.

 

[MarcATL]

Why do trumples believe trump's desire to tear apart government's bedrock institutions is a good thing? Because he told them to believe it. Why? Because it furthers his chaos agenda. Why? Because it's easier for authoritarians to step in to the void created by chaos.

That's the long and short of it.

 

[Rawley]

A top Chinese official on Monday denied suggestions from the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency that the Covid-19 pandemic was triggered by the virus leaking from a lab.

“The conclusion that a laboratory leak is extremely unlikely was reached by the joint China–WHO expert team based on field visits to relevant laboratories in Wuhan,” said Mao Ning, Beijing's Foreign Ministry spokesperson, at a press briefing, according to news agency AFP.

Mao added that “this has been widely recognized by the international community and the scientific community.” Several studies have said that the virus originated naturally, arguing it may have spread among people who were exposed to infected animals sold at a wet market in the Chinese city of Wuhan.

But officials in Washington have harbored suspicions that the virus may have originated in a lab, before leaking out to the general population and causing a pandemic that killed millions of people and sent much of the world into harsh lockdowns in 2020 and 2021.

Over the weekend, the CIA issued a new public assessment about Covid just two days after former Republican lawmaker John Ratcliffe was sworn in as its new director, in the new American administration under President Donald Trump.

China hits back at CIA over Covid lab leak accusation

Several studies have said the virus originated naturally — but U.S. intelligence changed its assessment over the weekend.

www.politico.eu

I have no dog in this fight. I always felt the accusation about the lab leak was trump's way of distracting the public away from his incompetent response to COVID. Something he's very good at. But I looked at the debate over the source of COVID being more of scientific than political significance.

The larger concern here being a trump appointee already using his authority to change a CIA assessment to please the boss. Authoritarians benefit from controlling the flow of information. It's just another example of how trump is doing what authoritarians do. It comes quite naturally to him.

LOL So you believe "reality" is the Chinese story that COVID started from some bat soup in a wet market, rather than the US Intelligence agencies evidence that is was a leak from the COVID lab down the street. Even though the Chinese have never been able to find a single bat with COVID

That's the "reality" you are living in? Really?