The Troops are concerned about gays serving openly.

[Spoonman]

That pretty much says it all folks.

You are damn right it does.

Yep...it shows that you think of fellow Americans who VOLUNTEER to serve this country, who VOLUNTEER to possibly get killed for this country, who VOLUNTEER to be away from family and home for long deployments in distant, uncomfortable places...are a bunch of thieves. Why? because of a policy NOT of their making. Because of a policy they totally disagree with. Because of a policy that thankfully is not gone.

You call ME a thief.

You call Seawytch a thief.

This says nothing negative about us in reality.....it sure says something about YOU tho.

You know the rules going in. obey them. that's what being a soldier is all about. Millions of gays have served honorably in the military but STFU about being gay. Because that's what the rules say. And they probably were very good soldiers. It's you crybabies who are the problem. It has to be about you being gay. to you, your homosexuality is bigger than the rules. That does not make a good soldier

 

[slukasiewski]

Took a survey at the American Legion pig roast last night....

Here's the bottom line - WE DON'T WANT FAGGOTS in the military.

There - real veterans have spoken.

 

[Spoonman]

That pretty much says it all folks.

You are damn right it does.

Yep...it shows that you think of fellow Americans who VOLUNTEER to serve this country, who VOLUNTEER to possibly get killed for this country, who VOLUNTEER to be away from family and home for long deployments in distant, uncomfortable places...are a bunch of thieves. Why? because of a policy NOT of their making. Because of a policy they totally disagree with. Because of a policy that thankfully is not gone.

You call ME a thief.

You call Seawytch a thief.

This says nothing negative about us in reality.....it sure says something about YOU tho.

because of a policy NOT of their making. Because of a policy they totally disagree with.

See why does it always have to be about you? Those are the rules. You see a restaurant that says no shirt, no shoes no service do you expect to walk in with no shoes and get served? a library book is due back in two weeks, but it takes you three to read, you get fined. I don't want to wear a motorcycle helmet or wear a seatbelt, but I have too. Rules are rules. I sure as hell didn't like every rule in the military. But I accepted them when I went in. Why? becasue it was my duty. I knew what the rules were going in. If I couldn't abide by them I shouldn't have gone in. That's the bottom line. You don't have to like it but you have to obide by it. If you can't follow that one simple rule I don't want to depend on you with my life on the line. it's that simple

 

[WorldWatcher]

So lets say a thief breaks into what was thought to be an impenatrable security system. With a skill level beyond comprehension. Does that make him right?

Ah, gay soldiers and sailors who VOLUNTEERED to serve their country are thieves now.

yes, they are. and a lot of the links here prove it. they were not eligible for military service because of their sexual preference. yet they took thousands of dollars of taxpayers money to get training for themselves and then avoid fulfilling their obligation to their country by coming out as homosexuals. They knew what the result would be. being discharged. think about it. what a perfect scam. join the military, get you training and education free, well on the tax payers dime. say you are gay and then be relieved of your militarty obligation. Yes, I would say that is stealing.

Good, that loophole has been closed. A very good reason for repealing DADT and allowing service under the same conditions as we heterosexuals.


Good point.


>>>>

 

[bodecea]

yeah - that happened a lot i'm sure.

probably about as often as straight soldiers lied about being gay so they could get out of the military.

regardless, you're making a pretty good argument for closing off that loophole and allowing gays to serve.

I remember back in abou 80, I was in a command where they decided to send a lot of young women from boot camp and A school to build the command up (aviation training command). Well, South TX is not exactly a nice place and many of the women decided that getting pregnant was the way to get out quickly (this is when getting out when pregnant was an option). Easiest way to solve that problem.....close that option out.

What spoonman inadvertently pointed out is that by getting rid of DADT, you close the option (very, very rarely used) of getting out easily if you declare yourself gay. BTW...under DADT, it was always the command's option. I have a friend in who told of a sailor who went up to him (Dept Head) and declared that he was gay. My friend said "that's nice, get back to work". That ended that. Spoonman would probably have clutched his pearls and fainted dead away from the thought of thieving gays.

so if that's the case why are you still whining and bitching about it? You contradict yourself with ever argument.

Actually, I have NOTHING to whine and ***** about. DADT is GONE. We won. Seems to me, that the whining and bitching and calling vets thieves is your schtick at this time.

 

[bodecea]

Bingo, Exactly. Same here, I wasn't a heterosexual Marine, I was a Marine. No agenda. But that's what it's all about with these guys. In your face, I am gay and you have to accept it. Be gay, I don't really care, or be straight. I don't care either. As I've said all along to these guys show me a compelling military reason why the policy should be changed. They haven't. it always comes back to their OWN personal wants.

Another outstanding post. I don't recall anyone aboard ship running around proclaiming, "I'm STRAIGHT... I'm STRAIGHT!!!!!"

We had a ******* job to do - not proclaim our sexuality.

Glad I am out. Cannot tolerate polesmokers in the work space or aboard my ship, in my Navy!

It's like the gay pride parades.

Have you ever been to a gay pride parade? Do you know what they are like?

Are there straight pride parades?

Lots....Mardi Gras...Spring break...St. Patricks Day parades...Columbus Day Parades. MLK Jr. Parades

No. We don't feel the need to be all in your face oooooooh look at me.

But the Irish do...the Italians do...the blacks do...the American patriots do (4th of July parades)...why are you not complaining about their parades?

Oh, that's right....it's only the gays you have a problem with......

 

[WorldWatcher]

Gays serving.

Dishonorable.

Pretty much cut and dry.

Case closed...


NEXT !!!!

Homosexuals have been allowed to serve honorably for the last 18 years under DADT.


>>>>

Wrong.

Homosexuals have been allowed to serve honorably since the US Military came into being. People like you with your political agendas have NO clue what serving in the military means.

Thanks Gunny, but I have quite the clue. I wasn't a Heterosexual Chief. I was a Navy Chief first and foremost.

I see no reason heterosexual or homosexual Soldiers, Sailors, Airman, and yes Marines can't be Soldiers, Sailors, Airman, and Marines first. For the few assholes that make an issue of it (for or against) you deal with them. Over time the message get's out - sexual orientation doesn't matter. What matters is how well you perform your duty.

That in the end is what should matter.



>>>>>

 

[bodecea]

Another outstanding post. I don't recall anyone aboard ship running around proclaiming, "I'm STRAIGHT... I'm STRAIGHT!!!!!"

We had a ******* job to do - not proclaim our sexuality.

Glad I am out. Cannot tolerate polesmokers in the work space or aboard my ship, in my Navy!

It's like the gay pride parades. Are there straight pride parades? No. We don't feel the need to be all in your face oooooooh look at me.

Yeah - seriously. Faggots need to keep their filthy mouths shut - literally. We're not interested in their filthy lifestyle.

At this point, after all your posts about gay sex and using the word "filthy" over and over, I cannot help but wonder who it is you are really trying to convince.

 

[bodecea]

You are damn right it does.

Yep...it shows that you think of fellow Americans who VOLUNTEER to serve this country, who VOLUNTEER to possibly get killed for this country, who VOLUNTEER to be away from family and home for long deployments in distant, uncomfortable places...are a bunch of thieves. Why? because of a policy NOT of their making. Because of a policy they totally disagree with. Because of a policy that thankfully is not gone.

You call ME a thief.

You call Seawytch a thief.

This says nothing negative about us in reality.....it sure says something about YOU tho.

You know the rules going in. obey them. that's what being a soldier is all about. Millions of gays have served honorably in the military but STFU about being gay. Because that's what the rules say. And they probably were very good soldiers. It's you crybabies who are the problem. It has to be about you being gay. to you, your homosexuality is bigger than the rules. That does not make a good soldier

DADT is GONE...why are you still whining?

 

[slukasiewski]

Homosexuals have been allowed to serve honorably for the last 18 years under DADT.


>>>>

Wrong.

Homosexuals have been allowed to serve honorably since the US Military came into being. People like you with your political agendas have NO clue what serving in the military means.

Thanks Gunny, but I have quite the clue. I wasn't a Heterosexual Chief. I was a Navy Chief first and foremost.

I see no reason heterosexual or homosexual Soldiers, Sailors, Airman, and yes Marines can't be Soldiers, Sailors, Airman, and Marines first. For the few assholes that make an issue of it (for or against) you deal with them. Over time the message get's out - sexual orientation doesn't matter. What matters is how well you perform your duty.

That in the end is what should matter.



>>>>>

Yeah - but why do we have to know that you suck cock? Why even raise the issue?
I don't recall anyone onboard ship "in my face" about being straight. Do you?

Keep your filthy lifestyle to yourself dude.

 

[bodecea]

You are damn right it does.

Yep...it shows that you think of fellow Americans who VOLUNTEER to serve this country, who VOLUNTEER to possibly get killed for this country, who VOLUNTEER to be away from family and home for long deployments in distant, uncomfortable places...are a bunch of thieves. Why? because of a policy NOT of their making. Because of a policy they totally disagree with. Because of a policy that thankfully is not gone.

You call ME a thief.

You call Seawytch a thief.

This says nothing negative about us in reality.....it sure says something about YOU tho.

because of a policy NOT of their making. Because of a policy they totally disagree with.

See why does it always have to be about you? Those are the rules. You see a restaurant that says no shirt, no shoes no service do you expect to walk in with no shoes and get served? a library book is due back in two weeks, but it takes you three to read, you get fined. I don't want to wear a motorcycle helmet or wear a seatbelt, but I have too. Rules are rules. I sure as hell didn't like every rule in the military. But I accepted them when I went in. Why? becasue it was my duty. I knew what the rules were going in. If I couldn't abide by them I shouldn't have gone in. That's the bottom line. You don't have to like it but you have to obide by it. If you can't follow that one simple rule I don't want to depend on you with my life on the line. it's that simple

Your "gays are thieves" problem is solved. Gays in the military cannot steal their training and pay anymore (as if I believe that was their reason for joining)....why are you still whining?

Problem solved. DADT is GONE.

 

[Spoonman]

Yep...it shows that you think of fellow Americans who VOLUNTEER to serve this country, who VOLUNTEER to possibly get killed for this country, who VOLUNTEER to be away from family and home for long deployments in distant, uncomfortable places...are a bunch of thieves. Why? because of a policy NOT of their making. Because of a policy they totally disagree with. Because of a policy that thankfully is not gone.

You call ME a thief.

You call Seawytch a thief.

This says nothing negative about us in reality.....it sure says something about YOU tho.

because of a policy NOT of their making. Because of a policy they totally disagree with.

See why does it always have to be about you? Those are the rules. You see a restaurant that says no shirt, no shoes no service do you expect to walk in with no shoes and get served? a library book is due back in two weeks, but it takes you three to read, you get fined. I don't want to wear a motorcycle helmet or wear a seatbelt, but I have too. Rules are rules. I sure as hell didn't like every rule in the military. But I accepted them when I went in. Why? becasue it was my duty. I knew what the rules were going in. If I couldn't abide by them I shouldn't have gone in. That's the bottom line. You don't have to like it but you have to obide by it. If you can't follow that one simple rule I don't want to depend on you with my life on the line. it's that simple

Your "gays are thieves" problem is solved. Gays in the military cannot steal their training and pay anymore (as if I believe that was their reason for joining)....why are you still whining?

Problem solved. DADT is GONE.

Thank you for proving my point once again. Yet here you are still whining about it. It's always about you, you, you. and you wonder why, you never get accepted.

 

[ogibillm]

Wrong.

Homosexuals have been allowed to serve honorably since the US Military came into being. People like you with your political agendas have NO clue what serving in the military means.

Thanks Gunny, but I have quite the clue. I wasn't a Heterosexual Chief. I was a Navy Chief first and foremost.

I see no reason heterosexual or homosexual Soldiers, Sailors, Airman, and yes Marines can't be Soldiers, Sailors, Airman, and Marines first. For the few assholes that make an issue of it (for or against) you deal with them. Over time the message get's out - sexual orientation doesn't matter. What matters is how well you perform your duty.

That in the end is what should matter.



>>>>>

Yeah - but why do we have to know that you suck cock? Why even raise the issue?
I don't recall anyone onboard ship "in my face" about being straight. Do you?

Keep your filthy lifestyle to yourself dude.

i can guarantee you that there are members of the military that talk about their sex lives with other members of the military right now.

the only thing dadt will change is gay people can join in the filthy conversations.

 

[slukasiewski]

because of a policy NOT of their making. Because of a policy they totally disagree with.

See why does it always have to be about you? Those are the rules. You see a restaurant that says no shirt, no shoes no service do you expect to walk in with no shoes and get served? a library book is due back in two weeks, but it takes you three to read, you get fined. I don't want to wear a motorcycle helmet or wear a seatbelt, but I have too. Rules are rules. I sure as hell didn't like every rule in the military. But I accepted them when I went in. Why? becasue it was my duty. I knew what the rules were going in. If I couldn't abide by them I shouldn't have gone in. That's the bottom line. You don't have to like it but you have to obide by it. If you can't follow that one simple rule I don't want to depend on you with my life on the line. it's that simple

Your "gays are thieves" problem is solved. Gays in the military cannot steal their training and pay anymore (as if I believe that was their reason for joining)....why are you still whining?

Problem solved. DADT is GONE.

Thank you for proving my point once again. Yet here you are still whining about it. It's always about you, you, you. and you wonder why, you never get accepted.

Outstanding post!



That's the problem with gays - it's always about them them them....

Everyone's out to get them

They are always the victims...

Pathetic...

And don't even get me started on their lack of integrity...

 

[bodecea]

because of a policy NOT of their making. Because of a policy they totally disagree with.

See why does it always have to be about you? Those are the rules. You see a restaurant that says no shirt, no shoes no service do you expect to walk in with no shoes and get served? a library book is due back in two weeks, but it takes you three to read, you get fined. I don't want to wear a motorcycle helmet or wear a seatbelt, but I have too. Rules are rules. I sure as hell didn't like every rule in the military. But I accepted them when I went in. Why? becasue it was my duty. I knew what the rules were going in. If I couldn't abide by them I shouldn't have gone in. That's the bottom line. You don't have to like it but you have to obide by it. If you can't follow that one simple rule I don't want to depend on you with my life on the line. it's that simple

Your "gays are thieves" problem is solved. Gays in the military cannot steal their training and pay anymore (as if I believe that was their reason for joining)....why are you still whining?

Problem solved. DADT is GONE.

Thank you for proving my point once again. Yet here you are still whining about it. It's always about you, you, you. and you wonder why, you never get accepted.

You are truely not making sense here. DADT is gone now. What is the problem? I'm happy....you should be happy too. No more thieves...no more stealing. Isn't that what you said your problem with gays in the military was? That gays STOLE training and money? That's no longer a problem. You should be

You should be as happy as my XO and I were when they closed that Pregnancy discharge loophole.

 

[slukasiewski]

Thanks Gunny, but I have quite the clue. I wasn't a Heterosexual Chief. I was a Navy Chief first and foremost.

I see no reason heterosexual or homosexual Soldiers, Sailors, Airman, and yes Marines can't be Soldiers, Sailors, Airman, and Marines first. For the few assholes that make an issue of it (for or against) you deal with them. Over time the message get's out - sexual orientation doesn't matter. What matters is how well you perform your duty.

That in the end is what should matter.



>>>>>

Yeah - but why do we have to know that you suck cock? Why even raise the issue?
I don't recall anyone onboard ship "in my face" about being straight. Do you?

Keep your filthy lifestyle to yourself dude.

i can guarantee you that there are members of the military that talk about their sex lives with other members of the military right now.

the only thing dadt will change is gay people can join in the filthy conversations.

Oh hell yes, I agree. Back in the CPO mess, we used to watch porn movies all the time! I guess in today's Navy - acceptable porn movies will be two men packing each other's fudge? Yeeeeesh.

Glad I'm out..

 

[Spoonman]

Your "gays are thieves" problem is solved. Gays in the military cannot steal their training and pay anymore (as if I believe that was their reason for joining)....why are you still whining?

Problem solved. DADT is GONE.

Thank you for proving my point once again. Yet here you are still whining about it. It's always about you, you, you. and you wonder why, you never get accepted.

You are truely not making sense here. DADT is gone now. What is the problem? I'm happy....you should be happy too. No more thieves...no more stealing. Isn't that what you said your problem with gays in the military was? That gays STOLE training and money? That's no longer a problem. You should be

You are so the typical lib. you don't listen, you don't comprehend. and you definitely have the flair of a drama queen. Dear god!

 

[Spoonman]

Yeah - but why do we have to know that you suck cock? Why even raise the issue?
I don't recall anyone onboard ship "in my face" about being straight. Do you?

Keep your filthy lifestyle to yourself dude.

i can guarantee you that there are members of the military that talk about their sex lives with other members of the military right now.

the only thing dadt will change is gay people can join in the filthy conversations.

Oh hell yes, I agree. Back in the CPO mess, we used to watch porn movies all the time! I guess in today's Navy - acceptable porn movies will be two men packing each other's fudge? Yeeeeesh.

Glad I'm out..

Tonight we will be featuring Brokeback Mountain

 

[slukasiewski]

i can guarantee you that there are members of the military that talk about their sex lives with other members of the military right now.

the only thing dadt will change is gay people can join in the filthy conversations.

Oh hell yes, I agree. Back in the CPO mess, we used to watch porn movies all the time! I guess in today's Navy - acceptable porn movies will be two men packing each other's fudge? Yeeeeesh.

Glad I'm out..

Tonight we will be featuring Brokeback Mountain

I can't even imagine that being shown aboard ship when I was in!

 

[bodecea]

Your "gays are thieves" problem is solved. Gays in the military cannot steal their training and pay anymore (as if I believe that was their reason for joining)....why are you still whining?

Problem solved. DADT is GONE.

Thank you for proving my point once again. Yet here you are still whining about it. It's always about you, you, you. and you wonder why, you never get accepted.

Outstanding post!



That's the problem with gays - it's always about them them them....

Everyone's out to get them

They are always the victims...

Pathetic...

And don't even get me started on their lack of integrity...

You want to talk about integrity, Gh0ster? You who brag of blanket parties and murdering people by throwing them off the fantail?