JohnDB
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That guy has some of the best humor about the war and propaganda.
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That guy has some of the best humor about the war and propaganda.
agree
ps
Moscow horde´s war record :-
1856 defeated by Britain and France
1905 defeated by Japan
1917 defeated by Germany
1920 defeated by Poland, Finland, Estonia and all Baltic states
1939 defeated by Finland
1969 defeated by China
1989 defeated by Afghanistan
1989 defeated in the Cold War.
1996 defeated by Chechnya
2022 defeated by Ukraine
WW2 won USA/Britain , meanwhile Stalin's officers were shot or sent to the Gulags. Millions went to the Gulags, including Solzhenitsyn
Moscow's only victories come from invading smaller countries :-
a) Hungary 1956
b) Czechoslovakia 1968
c) Moldova 1992
d) Georgia 2008
it will be suicide attack. i dont think that Moscow empire can , will make this war bigger.There might be a "secret" attack towards Kiev by Belarus in the coming months which would complicate things massively on the diplomatic front. (Recent warnings from Prigozhin)
Currently the Ukrainian advance is slow going. The Ukranians are trying to thin the Russian ranks as much as possible across the huge front line....and it's working albeit slowly. Possibly too slowly.
There might be a "secret" attack towards Kiev by Belarus in the coming months which would complicate things massively on the diplomatic front. (Recent warnings from Prigozhin)
One good solution for Ukraine would be to hire their own PMC that could carry out airstrikes and defend their troops from long range Air to Ground missiles being used by Russia. If Blackwater is available....maybe. I don't know if they have the capability of handling such a task. But it's a solution for the problem of time and weather.
Currently the Russians are increasingly relying upon poorly trained draftees (mobiks) who aren't exactly the best equipped (they don't know how to use the sophisticated equipment anyway) against somewhat better trained and equipped Ukranians.
(Good training requires 2years and not months)
In the late fall....all that ground that was flooded because of the dam will finally be frozen and easily crossed. The marshes and swamps will be able to support heavy equipment and Russia must open another front to try and thin the Ukrainian military even more. (Ukrainian forces have always been thin....this is asymmetrical warfare) The Ukranians have been fighting above their weight class for a very long time and been performing extremely well in spite of everything.
The Ukranians also are likely having supply chain issues. They have different equipment from so many different countries that it has to make logistics a freaking nightmare. Different fuel, ammo, parts, and lubricants? Nuts and bolts?
Look,Best solution for Ukraine: Make peace, you fools!
Look,
War does not end with either side having a conclusion that is all one sided. Get rid of that notion right off the bat.
The best that anyone can hope for is to lose less. Russia has permanently lost massive sections of its economy and future as a result of starting this war.
Ukraine has lost a quarter of its population because of this war. As this war drags on both sides will permanently lose these people to the areas they migrated to. (People with skills and talents are always desired and welcome wherever they go)
Then there's the predictive fertility rates that tell us the long term picture of the future of a nation....neither Russian or Ukranians have rates that are sustainable for very long....it doesn't take long before a war is reduced to two old codgers waving walking sticks at each other in a pile of rubble.
Meanwhile the rest of the world gets to deal with new sections in their cities with the unskilled refugees....basically new Russian or Ukranian slums in their cities. Uggghhhh....as if they didn't have enough problems as it is. And nobody liked it last time we had Russian thugs/gangsters running around our cities. (Which is happening now)
Then there's the issue of land and resources that both sides are really fighting over.
There needs to be a resolution. Ukraine needs to be allowed to have cargo come and go freely from their ports without Russian interference. Russia's pride refuses to give up their premier naval base. (They have others but Sevastopol was their favorite)
(Which is why Ukraine shut off the canal that supplied Crimea with fresh water in 2015)
So. If roles were reversed and you were the metaphorically invaded country.....which of the 48 states are you going to give up to the invaders to stop the war?
California? Texas? Florida? Delaware?
And just because you give up this state....it doesn't guarantee that the invader won't come back in ten to fifteen years to try and take more land or resources. Or that independent armed insurrections won't start it back up again even if you do come to an agreement to stop fighting.
So....
Exactly what do YOU see as a peaceful resolution that everyone will live with?
Try to think hard and come up with a serious answer....I know it's difficult but do make the effort.If the roles were reversed, Mexico would be invading the USA...Oh wait
great post , still you have missed one thing , Moscow empire can not challenge us much longer . all wars which they fought they lost in 2 years. Moscow budget looks very bad , ruble , Gasprom, etc. go down. They can stay in fight 6-12 months more , but this is it. If Utkin doesn´t kill Putin before that.Currently the Ukrainian advance is slow going. The Ukranians are trying to thin the Russian ranks as much as possible across the huge front line....and it's working albeit slowly. Possibly too slowly.
There might be a "secret" attack towards Kiev by Belarus in the coming months which would complicate things massively on the diplomatic front. (Recent warnings from Prigozhin)
One good solution for Ukraine would be to hire their own PMC that could carry out airstrikes and defend their troops from long range Air to Ground missiles being used by Russia. If Blackwater is available....maybe. I don't know if they have the capability of handling such a task. But it's a solution for the problem of time and weather.
Currently the Russians are increasingly relying upon poorly trained draftees (mobiks) who aren't exactly the best equipped (they don't know how to use the sophisticated equipment anyway) against somewhat better trained and equipped Ukranians.
(Good training requires 2years and not months)
In the late fall....all that ground that was flooded because of the dam will finally be frozen and easily crossed. The marshes and swamps will be able to support heavy equipment and Russia must open another front to try and thin the Ukrainian military even more. (Ukrainian forces have always been thin....this is asymmetrical warfare) The Ukranians have been fighting above their weight class for a very long time and been performing extremely well in spite of everything.
The Ukranians also are likely having supply chain issues. They have different equipment from so many different countries that it has to make logistics a freaking nightmare. Different fuel, ammo, parts, and lubricants? Nuts and bolts?
Look,
War does not end with either side having a conclusion that is all one sided. Get rid of that notion right off the bat.
The best that anyone can hope for is to lose less. Russia has permanently lost massive sections of its economy and future as a result of starting this war.
Ukraine has lost a quarter of its population because of this war. As this war drags on both sides will permanently lose these people to the areas they migrated to. (People with skills and talents are always desired and welcome wherever they go)
Then there's the predictive fertility rates that tell us the long term picture of the future of a nation....neither Russian or Ukranians have rates that are sustainable for very long....it doesn't take long before a war is reduced to two old codgers waving walking sticks at each other in a pile of rubble.
Meanwhile the rest of the world gets to deal with new sections in their cities with the unskilled refugees....basically new Russian or Ukranian slums in their cities. Uggghhhh....as if they didn't have enough problems as it is. And nobody liked it last time we had Russian thugs/gangsters running around our cities. (Which is happening now)
Then there's the issue of land and resources that both sides are really fighting over.
There needs to be a resolution. Ukraine needs to be allowed to have cargo come and go freely from their ports without Russian interference. Russia's pride refuses to give up their premier naval base. (They have others but Sevastopol was their favorite)
(Which is why Ukraine shut off the canal that supplied Crimea with fresh water in 2015)
So. If roles were reversed and you were the metaphorically invaded country.....which of the 48 states are you going to give up to the invaders to stop the war?
California? Texas? Florida? Delaware?
And just because you give up this state....it doesn't guarantee that the invader won't come back in ten to fifteen years to try and take more land or resources. Or that independent armed insurrections won't start it back up again even if you do come to an agreement to stop fighting.
So....
Exactly what do YOU see as a peaceful resolution that everyone will live with?
So you somehow think that Zelensky (or any Ukranians) are going to peacefully just give up a third of their GDP and then not be allowed to have any free trade with the rest of the world? (Because without free trade Blackrock or anyone simply won't invest)I'll say it again. The wildcard is Zelen$ky (the USA) blowing up the nuclear reactor. That aside, Russia will own everything East of the Dnieper and Zelen$ky will sell the balance to BlackRock for pennies on the dollar
The equivalent really, truly is the Mexican invasion of the USA
On the other side....I'll say it again. The wildcard is Zelen$ky (the USA) blowing up the nuclear reactor. That aside, Russia will own everything East of the Dnieper and Zelen$ky will sell the balance to BlackRock for pennies on the dollar
The equivalent really, truly is the Mexican invasion of the USA
So you somehow think that Zelensky (or any Ukranians) are going to peacefully just give up a third of their GDP and then not be allowed to have any free trade with the rest of the world? (Because without free trade Blackrock or anyone simply won't invest)
What you are proposing simply is not feasible....Private Militias will not stand for it even if Zelensky is deposed and someone else agreed to that. (Too many weapons and troops trained)
And in 20 years both Russia and Ukraine themselves will be "wilderness" areas while the rest of the world fights off the organized crime syndicates of Ukranians and Russians that have fled to avoid conscription.
Ok....News flash: The "Ukrainians" already gave up way more than 1/3!! They lost 250,000 of their most capable men and 8 to 10 million population FLED THE COUNTRY!
Zelen$ky campaigned on making peace with Russia. He immediately started provoking Russia. Russia tried talking until he realized that no one wanted to talk! The WEF wanted WAR! They thought Russia would be a push over.
Returning Ukrainian soldiers have every right to take their country away from the WEF and their puppet Zelen$ky and make peace with Russia. Putin will NEVER work with WEF Stooges
You mean the July 2022 visit?Ok....
Forget the rhetoric....the point is moot this moment.
Russia is not getting any investors....like ever. Putin recently went to a mid Eastern summit looking for investors for Russian infrastructure for gas, oil and other products and got laughed out of the conference. Putin's "friends" aren't going to help. Not even BRICS is going to put anything into Russia but they are willing to accept investments from wealthy Russian citizens.
What you have so far suggested still has about 8 different countries collapsing and causing instability in the entire world.
And yes, this will affect your life and lifestyle even in Missouri...and not in a beneficial way.
No....this one was just a month ago.You mean the July 2022 visit?