The rights historically failed ideas proven failure

This guy is LYING about what I said manu.

I never said the crap he is trying to claim I said.

Hes merely attempting to derail the thread because the facts in it are SO damning to the current republican position
 
IMF: Austerity boosts unemployment, lowers paychecks - The Washington Post


These past few years, the Republican line on job creation has been simple: Cut government spending, tame the deficit, and unemployment will fall. Maybe not tomorrow, maybe not the day after, but soon. “To put it simply,” House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R- Va.) said last spring, “less government spending means more private-sector jobs.” But that’s not exactly a rigorous study. So here’s a rigorous study.


In a new paper for the International Monetary Fund, Laurence Ball, Daniel Leigh and Prakash Loungani look at 173 episodes of fiscal austerity over the past 30 years—with the average deficit cut amounting to 1 percent of GDP. Their verdict? Austerity “lowers incomes in the short term, with wage-earners taking more of a hit than others; it also raises unemployment, particularly long-term unemployment.”

More specifically, an austerity program that curbs the deficit by 1 percent of GDP reduces real incomes by about 0.6 percent and raises unemployment by almost 0.5 percentage points. WhatÂ’s more, the IMF notes, the losses are twice as big when the central bank canÂ’t cut rates (a good description of the present.) Typically, income and employment donÂ’t fully recover even five years after the austerity program is put in place.

Is the current right promoting austerity or not?
 
IMF: Austerity boosts unemployment, lowers paychecks - The Washington Post


These past few years, the Republican line on job creation has been simple: Cut government spending, tame the deficit, and unemployment will fall. Maybe not tomorrow, maybe not the day after, but soon. “To put it simply,” House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R- Va.) said last spring, “less government spending means more private-sector jobs.” But that’s not exactly a rigorous study. So here’s a rigorous study.


In a new paper for the International Monetary Fund, Laurence Ball, Daniel Leigh and Prakash Loungani look at 173 episodes of fiscal austerity over the past 30 years—with the average deficit cut amounting to 1 percent of GDP. Their verdict? Austerity “lowers incomes in the short term, with wage-earners taking more of a hit than others; it also raises unemployment, particularly long-term unemployment.”

More specifically, an austerity program that curbs the deficit by 1 percent of GDP reduces real incomes by about 0.6 percent and raises unemployment by almost 0.5 percentage points. WhatÂ’s more, the IMF notes, the losses are twice as big when the central bank canÂ’t cut rates (a good description of the present.) Typically, income and employment donÂ’t fully recover even five years after the austerity program is put in place.

Is the current right promoting austerity or not?

i guess the alternative is to spend more money we don't have....
 
It will make the economy worse which will further esxsasperate our debt via low tax revenue.

Why do you on the right want the US to fail?
 
History shows austerity is a mistake.

yet more facts you on the right will ignore to retain your histically failed ideas
 
History shows austerity is a mistake.

yet more facts you on the right will ignore to retain your histically failed ideas

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Conservative said:
your source said 173 instances, and listed a number of different countries.

YOU, on the other hand, are claiming that all 173 instances are in the US, and are Republican. I know you're a little slow, but do you see the difference between what your source says, and what you are claiming?

Again, please list all 173, US and Republican instances.

No that is not what I said.

I said your ideas have been proven to have failed by history its self.

Then I gave you cold hard proof that austerity does not work.

Really?

I said...
Please be specific. Show us which of the 173 WORLD-WIDE instances being discussed apply to the United States, and specifically to Republicans.

you said...
They all apply to the US and the US is one of the countries listed.

last time I checked, the words 'ALL APPLY' in that sentence meant you were talking about ALL 173 instances.

So, essentially, you're still full of FAIL, dick-stain.

Time to run away like you usually do and start yet another thread on the same subject, hoping you don't get your ass kicked in that one like you did here.
 
This guy is LYING about what I said manu.

I never said the crap he is trying to claim I said.

Hes merely attempting to derail the thread because the facts in it are SO damning to the current republican position
really?

Conservative said:
your source said 173 instances, and listed a number of different countries.

YOU, on the other hand, are claiming that all 173 instances are in the US, and are Republican. I know you're a little slow, but do you see the difference between what your source says, and what you are claiming?

Again, please list all 173, US and Republican instances.

No that is not what I said.

I said your ideas have been proven to have failed by history its self.

Then I gave you cold hard proof that austerity does not work.

Really?

I said...
Please be specific. Show us which of the 173 WORLD-WIDE instances being discussed apply to the United States, and specifically to Republicans.

you said...
They all apply to the US and the US is one of the countries listed.

last time I checked, the words 'ALL APPLY' in that sentence meant you were talking about ALL 173 instances.

So, essentially, you're still full of FAIL, dick-stain.

Time to run away like you usually do and start yet another thread on the same subject, hoping you don't get your ass kicked in that one like you did here.
 
The whole ideas of doing a muti country study was so all those countrys could learn from the study.

Austerity doesnt work in nay democracy does it?

I noticed that you still have not offered anything concrete about what does work. You seem to have avoided all requests for you to state what you think will work.

That is typical of you.

TM's solution?

Spend like there is no tomorrow because the way we are going there won't be a tomorrow.

Immie

Finance & Development, September 2011 - Painful Medicine

my solution is to do what has been historically proven to work.

So tell me, oh mighty dimwit, what has been historically proven to work?

Am I correct that you believe in spending like there is no tomorrow or do you have another solution?

Immie
 
TM when you have hard times and know that money is not as plentiful, do you spend more money or less?
 
The CBO said the stimulus worked
 
The CBO said the stimulus worked

The members of the CBO also have jobs... very well paying jobs, that depend on pleasing their masters. They have not felt the sting of this recession. When they do, they will squeal a different tune.

Bullshit, if it worked.

Immie
 
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This guy is LYING about what I said manu.

I never said the crap he is trying to claim I said.

Hes merely attempting to derail the thread because the facts in it are SO damning to the current republican position

Actually, he quoted you. Is it really his fault if you aren unable to articulate what you are trying to say?

Oh I forgot. You don't care about communicating clearly. So stop whining when it causes people misunderstand you.
 
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so you ONLY trust info you like huh?
 
This guy is LYING about what I said manu.

I never said the crap he is trying to claim I said.

Hes merely attempting to derail the thread because the facts in it are SO damning to the current republican position

Actually, he quoted you. Is it really his fault if you aren unable to articulate what you are trying to say?

Oh I forgot. You don't care about communicating clearly. So stop whining when it causes people misunderstand you.

what is the number of the post of mine the guy quoted?
 
The CBO said the stimulus worked

If the stimulous worked and as many jobs were created as they claim, unemployment would be around 6%.

Do you honestly think that the 9.1% (at minimum) people unemployed really give a damn whether you claim the stimulous worked or not? And do you think they are going to just vote for Obama?
 
this has been a ******* marathon, I've had a two hour nap and dumbass is still at it.. you gotta give it to her for perserverance and stupidity.. :clap2:
 
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