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Hiding Jewish history​

Anything to do with Jewish history has been attacked. Jesus – a Jew preaching to Jews – has his identity erased on Wikipedia’s pages. Jesus is listed as a ‘pre-mandate’ Palestinian.

As Jewish history has become a politicised part of the current conversation – it has also become a target for Wikipedia’s swarm of antisemitic editors. One method used is to equate histories – as if the Palestinian identity (a 20th century invention) and the Jewish identity (3000 years old) are somehow equal. The introduction on the page of Jerusalem is a good example of this strategy:



That section basically turns 3000 years of Jewish history into a ‘he said’ – ‘she said’ argument that flattens the truth out of existence.

Another good examples is the page on the ‘history of Palestine’ – which itself is dependant on a page ‘the region of Palestine’. In these pages ‘Palestine’ is defined by the borders created through the Mandate in 1922. As a region – this specific area has no history beyond that. If we accept ‘Palestine’ as a historical region – (which only stayed in the western conciousness because Christians viewed it as the Holy Land) – then parts of Jordan and Syria *must* also be included. But they are not. This is therefore a distorted and politicised page – meaningless in a geo-political and historical context – that was created solely for anti-Israel purposes.

All of the pages – all of them have been shaped by anti-Israel activists who seek to belittle the Jewish ties with the Jewish homeland.

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Anti-Zionism posits that things were better before the State of Israel was created, before Zionism ruined the previously cordial relations between Jews and Arabs in the Middle East.

But before the State of Israel, before Zionism, Jews were hardly treated as equals. Far from it - Jews were considered Dhimmis, second-class citizens at best, subject to many discriminatory laws. Like all minorities, Jews living under the Ottoman Empire were forced to pay the jizya tax as well as the Rav Akasi, or 'rabbi tax.' Additional rules prevented Dhimmis such as Jews from riding horses, carrying weapons, building new synagogues, and publicly displaying signs of their religion. Whether these rules were enforced depended on the rulers of the time, but they remained on the books until the mid-1800s, when the Ottoman Empire, now in decline, granted equality to its citizens, an act which was extremely controversial throughout the Middle East.

There were massacres of the Jews of Safed in the 1660s and in 1834, of the Jews of Baghdad in 1828, of the Jews of the Iranian city of Barfarush in 1867, to name just a few of the mass killings of Jews. European visitors to Jerusalem in the 1800s described the degradation and humiliation of the Jews living in their ancient capital.

It is this reality which the anti-Zionists wish to restore, a reality in which Jews have no equality under the law, no right to defend themselves, and are dependent on the good graces of those in power. The Jews should have been happy, even grateful, to be Dhimmis.

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Hiding Jewish history​

Anything to do with Jewish history has been attacked. Jesus – a Jew preaching to Jews – has his identity erased on Wikipedia’s pages. Jesus is listed as a ‘pre-mandate’ Palestinian.

As Jewish history has become a politicised part of the current conversation – it has also become a target for Wikipedia’s swarm of antisemitic editors. One method used is to equate histories – as if the Palestinian identity (a 20th century invention) and the Jewish identity (3000 years old) are somehow equal. The introduction on the page of Jerusalem is a good example of this strategy:



That section basically turns 3000 years of Jewish history into a ‘he said’ – ‘she said’ argument that flattens the truth out of existence.

Another good examples is the page on the ‘history of Palestine’ – which itself is dependant on a page ‘the region of Palestine’. In these pages ‘Palestine’ is defined by the borders created through the Mandate in 1922. As a region – this specific area has no history beyond that. If we accept ‘Palestine’ as a historical region – (which only stayed in the western conciousness because Christians viewed it as the Holy Land) – then parts of Jordan and Syria *must* also be included. But they are not. This is therefore a distorted and politicised page – meaningless in a geo-political and historical context – that was created solely for anti-Israel purposes.

All of the pages – all of them have been shaped by anti-Israel activists who seek to belittle the Jewish ties with the Jewish homeland.

(full article online)


Maybe the Zionists should give some thought to doing the right thing. They are not the damaged people they were 70 years ago.
 

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Anti-Zionism posits that things were better before the State of Israel was created, before Zionism ruined the previously cordial relations between Jews and Arabs in the Middle East.

But before the State of Israel, before Zionism, Jews were hardly treated as equals. Far from it - Jews were considered Dhimmis, second-class citizens at best, subject to many discriminatory laws. Like all minorities, Jews living under the Ottoman Empire were forced to pay the jizya tax as well as the Rav Akasi, or 'rabbi tax.' Additional rules prevented Dhimmis such as Jews from riding horses, carrying weapons, building new synagogues, and publicly displaying signs of their religion. Whether these rules were enforced depended on the rulers of the time, but they remained on the books until the mid-1800s, when the Ottoman Empire, now in decline, granted equality to its citizens, an act which was extremely controversial throughout the Middle East.

There were massacres of the Jews of Safed in the 1660s and in 1834, of the Jews of Baghdad in 1828, of the Jews of the Iranian city of Barfarush in 1867, to name just a few of the mass killings of Jews. European visitors to Jerusalem in the 1800s described the degradation and humiliation of the Jews living in their ancient capital.

It is this reality which the anti-Zionists wish to restore, a reality in which Jews have no equality under the law, no right to defend themselves, and are dependent on the good graces of those in power. The Jews should have been happy, even grateful, to be Dhimmis.

(full article online)


Horses in Palestine? There is no evidence for horses.. There's never been pasture for horses. Even most Roman officers didn'thave horses.
 

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Maybe the Zionists should give some thought to doing the right thing. They are not the damaged people they were 70 years ago.
No, the Zionists are the ones the "indigenous Palestinians" want to see gone....so that the "Palestinians" can have the other 20% missing from the Mandate for Palestine, which was to be 100% for the Jewish homeland and started disappearing into Muslim Arab hands from 1922 on.

That makes it, much longer than 70 years, of Arab Muslims robbing the Jews of their ancient homeland, the way the Arab Muslims were, with plenty of witness evidence, being robbed of property and everything else, and being massacred - all those centuries before.

Jews are not damaged. They rose to the occasion and created The Start up nation in the area. Despite all the hatred, the attacks, the massacres, the destruction, the denial of Jewish history, denial of the right to go up to the Temple Mount, etc, etc etc..........

And many of the Arab countries have noticed how the Palestinian leaders are keeping their populations "damaged" on purpose, to cry rivers of crocodile tears....when.....will the BILLIONS of dollars those leaders have received from around the world, they could have created one or two nations just as great as Israel has become.


We will not cry for Argentina. We will not cry for the Multimillionaires leaders who would never send their own children to kill Jews and end up in prison, or die.

It is the Arab Muslim and Christian population which needs to look at their leaders, as it is happening in the PA and tell them to leave, because they deserve better, they deserve peace and an education which does not say "kill the Jews" at every turn.

Yes, those are the damaged ones. The ones who have been psychologically damaged by Islam and its putrid hatred of Jews.
 
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Horses in Palestine? There is no evidence for horses.. There's never been pasture for horses. Even most Roman officers didn'thave horses.
If you say that the Ottomans did not ride horses, you must be right. Or are you?
 
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Ancient people rode donkeys in Middle East long before ...
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May 16, 2018 · Donkey remains found in Tel Haror, also in Israel, and described in 2013, were thought to date from the Middle Bronze Age, between the years of 1700 and 1550 BCE.

The article was talking about, let us say, 100 to 500 years ago. The Ottoman Empire.
 
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May 16, 2018 · Donkey remains found in Tel Haror, also in Israel, and described in 2013, were thought to date from the Middle Bronze Age, between the years of 1700 and 1550 BCE.

 

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No, the Zionists are the ones the "indigenous Palestinians" want to see gone....so that the "Palestinians" can have the other 20% missing from the Mandate for Palestine, which was to be 100% for the Jewish homeland and started disappearing into Muslim Arab hands from 1922 on.

That makes it, much longer than 70 years, of Arab Muslims robbing the Jews of their ancient homeland, the way the Arab Muslims were, with plenty of witness evidence, being robbed of property and everything else, and being massacred - all those centuries before.

Jews are not damaged. They rose to the occasion and created The Start up nation in the area. Despite all the hatred, the attacks, the massacres, the destruction, the denial of Jewish history, denial of the right to go up to the Temple Mount, etc, etc etc..........

And many of the Arab countries have noticed how the Palestinian leaders are keeping their populations "damaged" on purpose, to cry rivers of crocodile tears....when.....will the BILLIONS of dollars those leaders have received from around the world, they could have created one or two nations just as great as Israel has become.


We will not cry for Argentina. We will not cry for the Multimillionaires leaders who would never send their own children to kill Jews and end up in prison, or die.

It is the Arab Muslim and Christian population which needs to look at their leaders, as it is happening in the PA and tell them to leave, because they deserve better, they deserve peace and an education which does not say "kill the Jews" at every turn.

Yes, those are the damaged ones. The ones who have been psychologically damaged by Islam and its putrid hatred of Jews.

The Saudis have been supporting the Palestinians since 1948 long before KSA was rich.

The Europeans sought sanctuary in Palestine and ultimately caused the Arab Jews to leave Iraq,Iran, Libya, Syria etc.

Just do the right thing.
 
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The Saudis have been supporting the Palestinians since 1948 long before KSA was rich.

The Europeans sought sanctuary in Palestine and ultimately caused the Arab Jews to leave Iraq,Iran, Libya, Syria etc.

Just do the right thing.
Jews from Europe who had moved from ancient Israel to live around the world, just like lots of other people do, decided to return to their ancient homeland.

And they did. They are doing the right thing, their rightful thing.
 

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The article was talking about, let us say, 100 to 500 years ago. The Ottoman Empire.
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Horses have never been a thing in Palestine.. That's why the Scythians terrified them so.
 
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Just what do the Schytinas have to do with Ancient Israel and horses being around other times, and with a region called Palestine?


"Modern day descendants are the Pashtuns of Afghanistan and Tajik people most probably, even though they are admixed to an extent and not 100% Scythian genetically, but they are the closest."

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(Jewish life under Islam was more peaceful, and Jews were treated better by Muslims than they were in Europe by Christians. At least, that is what Muslims have been saying the past 50 or more years )



I'm continuing on with my reading of the journey of Israel Joseph Benjamin in the middle of the 19th century.

Here is what he encountered in Erbil, in what is now the Kurdistan portion of Iraq:


Erbil is divided into two parts ; of which the one lying on the mountain is the city, the other, in the vast plain is the seat of trade and industry. One hundred and fifty Jewish families dwell here whose Nassi is Mailum Mordecai; they are however mueh oppressed by the fanatic, rude and half civilized sects of Allah, of which I will relate some examples.

A short time before my arrival a Jewish girl emptying some dirty water into the street, accidentally besprinkled with it a Mussulman who happened to be passing by. Im- mediately a crowd assembled before the house, broke open the door, seized the girl, and heaped upon her all kinds of threatening abuse; asking her how she, the daughter of an accursed race, dare presume to insult a true believer. The girl defended herself to the best of her ability, but the leader of the uproar cried out to her:

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WHEN WE DISCUSS THE HOLOCAUST and Hitler’s slaughter of six million European Jews, we often forget the fact that the Holocaust had other victims as well, namely the Palestinians, whose country was taken from them. They were innocent victims as the world sought to make a place for Jews who had been displaced by the Nazi tyranny, and wished to do so in a way that did not involve inviting Jewish refugees into their own countries.


The reason that the Palestinians may properly be seen as the final victims of the Holocaust is that growing anti-Semitism in Europe caused many Jews, who had previously opposed Zionism to begin to look positively upon the idea of creating a Jewish state in Palestine as a refuge for those being persecuted. Jewish organizations in the U.S. that had always opposed Zionism, slowly began to view it more favorably. Without Hitler, there would have been little support from Jews in the U.S. or Western Europe for the creation of a Jewish state. Without the Holocaust, the United Nations would have had little reason to establish the State of Israel.
What a grotesque argument. The Zionists argued that only a Jewish state could keep Jews safe, many Jews disagreed. After the Holocaust, it was clear that the Zionists were right, and countless Jews would have been saved if Israel existed ten years earlier. Events proved that Jews cannot rely on the world to protect them.

Antisemitic jerks like author Allan Brownfeld want to bring things back to the good old days where Jews could be persecuted without recourse - and, worse, he says that Jews who have the nerve to want to exist in their own homeland are as bad as the Nazis are.

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The first mention of the story comes from Iraqi Islamic writer Mahmoud Sheet Khattab in his 1969 book “Arab Military Unity.” He wrote, “When the Jews entered the city of Jerusalem on June 6, 1967, they were chanting in Al-Aqsa Mosque in Hebrew, with the meaning: Muhammad died, he died... He left daughters, and I listened to the silly joking, broadcasting a text from an Arab radio station, and commenting on it by the announcer, translating it to Arabic. Perhaps many Arabs and Muslims listened as I listened to that radio, and felt as I felt that a poisoned arrow hit my liver, which is bleeding blood, bitterness, sadness and pain.”

The story morphed. In a 1970 book by the same author, "Israel's Expansionist Objectives in the Arab Countries" Khattab wrote:


On June 6, 1967, Israel occupied the ancient city of Jerusalem. So the President of the Israeli State, the Prime Minister of Israel and the Ministers of Israel, led by the Israeli Chief Rabbi, proceeded to march towards the Western Wall, and there Moshe Dayan said: Today the road to the city is open.

The Jews desecrated the sanctity of Al-Aqsa Mosque by allowing the Israeli male and female soldiers to enter it wearing revealing clothes while they were drunk as if they were in bars or places of prostitution.

The Israeli army and the Jews violated the sanctity of Al-Aqsa Mosque. They were chanting in his courtyards on June 6, 1967: Muhammad died, he died... He left behind daughters!

Ameem points out the inconsistencies between these two stories as well as more embellishments that Khattab added in years later. He notes that the phrase "Mohammed dies, and left daughters" only rhymes in Arabic, not Hebrew (Mohammad mat wakhalf banat.) He mentions that it makes no sense for Israelis, who have had women in the army since 1948, would say anything disparaging about Mohammed having only daughters. He points out that if the phrase had been on Arabic radio then many Arabs would have condemned it immediately and not waited until 1969.

Furthermore, Ameem points out, indeed Mohammed did die and leave behind only daughters. Why is that an insult to begin with? It only is insulting since Arabs do not regard women to be as important as men!

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I always thought the Romans prefered to let the "natives" govern themselves and didn't really want to have to care what the natives were doing as long as they paid their taxes. Why were the Romans so motivated to disperse "Jewish historians"?
 
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Over 50 professors from CUNY have resigned from their faculty union, Professional Staff Congress (PSC-CUNY), in protest of the passage of a resolution condemning Israel, the New York Post reported Sunday. Multiple professors were very upset by the controversial resolution, according to the Post.

“With the PSC-CUNY resolution you have chosen to support a terrorist organization, Hamas, whose goal (`From the River to the Sea’) is to destroy the state of Israel and kill all my relatives who live there,” one professor wrote in his resignation letter, according to the Post.

"You do NOT represent us and I will not be a part of an organization that supports those who wish to destroy us,” the professor added.

The PSC-CUNY document, titled "Resolution in Support of the Palestinian People," opens by saying that "as an academic labor union committed to anti-racism, academic freedom, and international solidarity among workers, the PSC-CUNY cannot be silent about the continued subjection of Palestinians to the state-supported displacement, occupation, and use of lethal force by Israel ."

The resolution refers to a "practice of dispossession and expansion of settlements, dating back to [Israel's] establishment as a settler colonial state." It also talks about what it calls Israel's "state-sponsored policies of settler colonialism," which it says "link the Palestinian struggle for self determination to the struggles of Indigenous people and people of color in the United States."

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