The Right To Destroy Jewish History

watchingfromafar said:
Self-determination has more than one meaning.
A two-state solution gives self-determination to both sides.

Agree-?
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If you are really, really stupid, that might make sense to you, but if you have any idea of what is going on in the region, you recognize there cannot be a Palestinians state. The problem with this idea of a Palestinian state is that the Palestinians have never been willing to live in peace with Israel: current polls and past polls of the Palestinians show this is true and there in no Palestinian leader who can credibly offer peace to Israel, and never has been.
 
toomuchtime_ said:
If you are really, really stupid, that might make sense to you, but if you have any idea of what is going on in the region, you recognize there cannot be a Palestinians state.
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Sweet pee, there will be a Palestinian State under the UN mandated two-state solution.

toomuchtime_ said:
The problem with this idea of a Palestinian state is that the Palestinians have never been willing to live in peace with Israel
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The Israelis have been attacking Gaza for decades and still Gaza stands.
toomuchtime_ said:
: current polls
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Polls are like fools’ gold. Shinny on the outside but full of crap on the inside.
toomuchtime_ said:
no Palestinian leader who can credibly offer peace to Israel, and never has been.
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Why should the Palestinians trust the Zionists?

While the Israeli IDF sniper teams murder Palestinian children the Israelis get free murdering toys from the brain washed American’s.

I pray that soon rather than later Biden breaks away from the Zionist control in Washington and does what is right for the USA and the Middle East.

Cut off all military assistance to the blood thirsty Zionist vampire thirst for murder and murder and murders some more because these Zion’s loooove da murdering.
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toomuchtime_ said:
If you are really, really stupid, that might make sense to you, but if you have any idea of what is going on in the region, you recognize there cannot be a Palestinians state. The problem with this idea of a Palestinian state is that the Palestinians have never been willing to live in peace with Israel: current polls and past polls of the Palestinians show this is true and there in no Palestinian leader who can credibly offer peace to Israel, and never has been.
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You'd have to be even stupider to believe that Israel could ever know a moment's peace if they complete the Gaza Genocide and steal Gaza too.

Re: ....
.....current polls and past polls of the Palestinians
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Palestine's native residents just want genocidal Zionists to stop stealing their land and exterminating them.

Polls mean nothing when Israeli occupiers have made it clear that they don't want peace:


"Israel Does Not Want Peace"
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-does-not-want-peace-1.5253291

EXCERPT "Rejectionism is embedded in Israel's most primal beliefs. There, at the deepest level, lies the concept that this land is destined for the Jews alone.

Israel does not want peace. There is nothing I have ever written that I would be happier to be proved wrong about. But the evidence is piling up. In fact, it can be said that Israel has never wanted peace – a just peace, that is, one based on a just compromise for both sides.

The single most overwhelming item of evidence of Israel’s rejection of peace is, of course, the settlements project. From the dawn of its existence, there has never been a more reliable or more precise litmus test for Israel’s true intentions than this particular enterprise. In plain words: The builders of settlements want to consolidate the occupation, and those who want to consolidate the occupation do not want peace. That’s the whole story in a nutshell." CONTINUED
 
watchingfromafar said:
What I find most disturbing are the Zionists who hide behind the term Jew.

The blood thirsty child murderers are not “Jews”, they are not even Israelis, but cold-blooded child murdering Israeli Zionists. Most likely the largest clan on this planet.
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Sorry, but you can't use this as an excuse to hide your blatant antisemitism. We see what you are doing with this. And we know what happens when the world starts dividing us up into REAL(tm) "good" Jews and "bad" Jews. Eventually, we all end up as "bad" Jews.
 
surada said:
Islam? I'm Episcopalian and usually study the King James Bible.. Are you telling me it's a lie that Abraham had Ishmael and six other sons by Keturah?
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You are playing a game. I said nothing about your religion.

And I will repeat it.
Muslims insist that Jews are descendants of apes, monkeys and pigs And insist that Ishmael is the father of all Arabs, neither ever going to Arabia, then. .. logically if Abraham is Ishmael s father, then all Arabs are also descendants of apes, pigs and monkeys.

Muslims cannot viciously call Jews those things and say they are descendents of the same Jewish Patriarch only.....to not also be apes, monkeys and pigs.

So, Arabs must decide if they are also descendants of those 3 animals or are they finally going to own up to their own Arabian ancestors.
 
Grau said:
You'd have to be even stupider to believe that Israel could ever know a moment's peace if they complete the Gaza Genocide and steal Gaza too.



Palestine's native residents just want genocidal Zionists to stop stealing their land and exterminating them.

Polls mean nothing when Israeli occupiers have made it clear that they don't want peace:


"Israel Does Not Want Peace"
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-does-not-want-peace-1.5253291

EXCERPT "Rejectionism is embedded in Israel's most primal beliefs. There, at the deepest level, lies the concept that this land is destined for the Jews alone.

Israel does not want peace. There is nothing I have ever written that I would be happier to be proved wrong about. But the evidence is piling up. In fact, it can be said that Israel has never wanted peace – a just peace, that is, one based on a just compromise for both sides.

The single most overwhelming item of evidence of Israel’s rejection of peace is, of course, the settlements project. From the dawn of its existence, there has never been a more reliable or more precise litmus test for Israel’s true intentions than this particular enterprise. In plain words: The builders of settlements want to consolidate the occupation, and those who want to consolidate the occupation do not want peace. That’s the whole story in a nutshell." CONTINUED
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So what you are saying is that you believe the Palestinians have good reason for rejecting peace with Israel, but that doesn't contradict my point that there is no rational basis for believing a Palestinian state is possible.
 
toomuchtime_ said:
So what you are saying is that you believe the Palestinians have good reason for rejecting peace with Israel, but that doesn't contradict my point that there is no rational basis for believing a Palestinian state is possible.
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No, I'm simply stating what most people who have spent time in the Middle East have observed.

There can be no peace in the Levant without a just and equitable peace that leaves the Palestinians with reparations and at least some of their land.
 
Grau said:
No, I'm simply stating what most people who have spent time in the Middle East have observed.

There can be no peace in the Levant without a just and equitable peace that leaves the Palestinians with reparations and at least some of their land.
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They had that chance, over and over and over.
Turned it down every time.
 
Grau said:
No, I'm simply stating what most people who have spent time in the Middle East have observed.

There can be no peace in the Levant without a just and equitable peace that leaves the Palestinians with reparations and at least some of their land.
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The only thing the Palestinians would consider a just and equitable peace is for them to take all of Israel, and so there will not be peace in the ME unless the IDF enforces it as it does in Judea and Samaria. This has been the situation for the last 100 years and there are no indications it will change, so it is time to stop talking about two states and to begin deradicalizing the Palestinians so they can stop sacrificing their children to an impossible ambition.
 
toomuchtime_ said:
The only thing the Palestinians would consider a just and equitable peace is for them to take all of Israel, and so there will not be peace in the ME unless the IDF enforces it as it does in Judea and Samaria. This has been the situation for the last 100 years and there are no indications it will change, so it is time to stop talking about two states and to begin deradicalizing the Palestinians so they can stop sacrificing their children to an impossible ambition.
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Unless you've been to the Levant and talked to actual Palestinian refugees, you have no idea what the Palestinians would accept as a just and equitable peace.

Secondly, the Israeli government is not "enforcing peace", its' committing genocide by murdering mainly women and children with American munitions.

If a foreign power came to murder you and your family, steal your land and destroy your home, how easily would you be "deradicalized".

Israel's occupation of Palestinian land remains in clear violation of international law ( UN Resolutions #242 and # 338).
How will there ever be peace in the region if one country can steal land from its original, neighboring residents with not only impunity but reward?

It is Israel's genocidal, miscreant psycho- Settlers who need "deradicalizing" because they can't quit murdering and stealing. (1)


(1). "Israel Must Loudly Arrest the Murderous West Bank Settlers"​

slate.com

Israel Must Loudly Arrest the Settlers Who Are Killing West Bank Palestinians

Or risk losing any moral authority in this war.
slate.com slate.com

EXCERPT "Since Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack, settlers there have killed more than 120 Palestinians and injured at least 2,000. They have forcibly expelled more than 800 Palestinians from their homes, blown up their generators and solar panels, and burned down tents of Bedouin herders.

Again: This has been going on not in Gaza but in the West Bank—which is governed by the Palestinian Authority, not by Hamas. Some of those killed were members of militant groups, but most were attacked simply because they were Palestinians. In any case, they had nothing to do with Hamas’ attack on Israel from Gaza." CONTINUED
 
toomuchtime_ said:
If you are really, really stupid, that might make sense to you, but if you have any idea of what is going on in the region, you recognize there cannot be a Palestinians state. The problem with this idea of a Palestinian state is that the Palestinians have never been willing to live in peace with Israel: current polls and past polls of the Palestinians show this is true and there in no Palestinian leader who can credibly offer peace to Israel, and never has been.
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Then go ahead and kill the rest of them.
 
Grau said:
Unless you've been to the Levant and talked to actual Palestinian refugees, you have no idea what the Palestinians would accept as a just and equitable peace.

Secondly, the Israeli government is not "enforcing peace", its' committing genocide by murdering mainly women and children with American munitions.

If a foreign power came to murder you and your family, steal your land and destroy your home, how easily would you be "deradicalized".

Israel's occupation of Palestinian land remains in clear violation of international law ( UN Resolutions #242 and # 338).
How will there ever be peace in the region if one country can steal land from its original, neighboring residents with not only impunity but reward?

It is Israel's genocidal, miscreant psycho- Settlers who need "deradicalizing" because they can't quit murdering and stealing. (1)


(1). "Israel Must Loudly Arrest the Murderous West Bank Settlers"​

slate.com

Israel Must Loudly Arrest the Settlers Who Are Killing West Bank Palestinians

Or risk losing any moral authority in this war.
slate.com slate.com

EXCERPT "Since Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack, settlers there have killed more than 120 Palestinians and injured at least 2,000. They have forcibly expelled more than 800 Palestinians from their homes, blown up their generators and solar panels, and burned down tents of Bedouin herders.

Again: This has been going on not in Gaza but in the West Bank—which is governed by the Palestinian Authority, not by Hamas. Some of those killed were members of militant groups, but most were attacked simply because they were Palestinians. In any case, they had nothing to do with Hamas’ attack on Israel from Gaza." CONTINUED
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We all know that the Palestinians were never willing to live in peace with Israel because they tell us this over and over again. Hamas even amended its charter in 2017 to make sure that everyone knew it would not stop trying to capture Israel even if the Palestinians had a state in the territories and the idiots attacking Americans on college campuses and airports and freeways know full well that "from the river to the sea" means the destruction of Israel.

All the objective information we have shows conclusively that there has never been a minute in the last 100 years when the Palestinians were willing to live in peace with Israel, so it is clearly time to stop this nonsense about a Palestinians state, and for Israel to focus on its own security needs exclusively.
 
Grau said:
Unless you've been to the Levant and talked to actual Palestinian refugees, you have no idea what the Palestinians would accept as a just and equitable peace.

Secondly, the Israeli government is not "enforcing peace", its' committing genocide by murdering mainly women and children with American munitions.

If a foreign power came to murder you and your family, steal your land and destroy your home, how easily would you be "deradicalized".

Israel's occupation of Palestinian land remains in clear violation of international law ( UN Resolutions #242 and # 338).
How will there ever be peace in the region if one country can steal land from its original, neighboring residents with not only impunity but reward?

It is Israel's genocidal, miscreant psycho- Settlers who need "deradicalizing" because they can't quit murdering and stealing. (1)


(1). "Israel Must Loudly Arrest the Murderous West Bank Settlers"​

slate.com

Israel Must Loudly Arrest the Settlers Who Are Killing West Bank Palestinians

Or risk losing any moral authority in this war.
slate.com slate.com

EXCERPT "Since Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack, settlers there have killed more than 120 Palestinians and injured at least 2,000. They have forcibly expelled more than 800 Palestinians from their homes, blown up their generators and solar panels, and burned down tents of Bedouin herders.

Again: This has been going on not in Gaza but in the West Bank—which is governed by the Palestinian Authority, not by Hamas. Some of those killed were members of militant groups, but most were attacked simply because they were Palestinians. In any case, they had nothing to do with Hamas’ attack on Israel from Gaza." CONTINUED
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Israel's occupation of Palestinian land remains in clear violation of international law ( UN Resolutions #242 and # 338).

When did the Palestinians get any land? Link?
 
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