The Reflecting Pool repairs are COMPLETE, taking 1/10th the time and 1/20th the INITIAL cost estimates to complete the work.

Political-Junkie said:
Name one.
Click to expand...
/----/ Sure thing Spanky.

The High-Profile Outside Organizers​

The most prominent defendants who never stepped foot inside the Capitol building were leaders of political groups who remained on the outside grounds to organize, observe, or direct activities.

Enrique Tarrio (Leader of the Proud Boys)​

  • The Case: Tarrio was actually not even in Washington, D.C., on January 6; he had been arrested two days prior on unrelated charges and ordered by a judge to leave the city. However, federal prosecutors argued that he co-directed the group's movements remotely from a hotel room in Baltimore, Maryland.
  • Charges: Seditious Conspiracy and Obstruction of an Official Proceeding.
  • Outcome: He was convicted at trial and sentenced to 22 years in prison. His sentence was commuted to time served in January 2025, though his underlying felony conviction remained active.

Stewart Rhodes (Founder of the Oath Keepers)​

  • The Case: Rhodes traveled to Washington, D.C., and spent the afternoon of January 6 on the Capitol grounds, standing near the steps and directing members of his organization via encrypted apps. He did not cross the physical threshold into the building.
  • Charges: Seditious Conspiracy.
  • Outcome: Convicted at trial and sentenced to 18 years in prison. Like Tarrio, his sentence was commuted to time served in January 2025 with the felony conviction upheld.

2. Misdemeanor Cases: "Restricted Grounds" Only​

For individuals who were completely non-violent but crossed onto the outer plazas, steps, or inauguration stages, prosecutors relied on misdemeanor trespassing statutes.

Couy Griffin (Founder of "Cowboys for Trump")​

  • The Case: A prominent test case for the outer perimeter. Griffin, then an elected county commissioner from New Mexico, climbed over a stone wall, breached the outer bicycle racks, and walked up to the constructed inauguration stage on the Lower West Terrace. He spent his time on the steps peacefully leading a prayer via a megaphone and never went inside.
  • Charges: 18 U.S.C. § 1752(a)(1) (Entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds).
  • The Legal Precedent: Griffin argued he didn't realize the area was restricted because Vice President Mike Pence had already been evacuated, meaning the Secret Service protection zone shouldn't apply. The judge rejected this, noting the presence of physical barriers made it clear to any reasonable person that the area was off-limits.
  • Outcome: Convicted of the trespassing misdemeanor in a bench trial. He was later fully exonerated under the presidential blanket pardon.

3. Exterior Felony Cases: Violence or Destruction Outside​

Many individuals faced years in prison strictly for actions taken on the outdoor terraces, plazas, and scaffolding.

Daniel Ball​

  • The Case: Ball remained outside on the Capitol terraces during the crowd's push against law enforcement lines. He did not enter the structure.
  • Charges: Assaulting, Resisting, or Impeding Officers, alongside weapons charges for deploying an explosive device/firecracker into the crowd outside.
  • Outcome: His federal J6 case was resolved following the blanket pardon.

John Banuelos​

  • The Case: Banuelos was photographed and recorded on the external plazas of the Capitol. He became a focus of investigators after video footage emerged showing him brandishing and firing a handgun into the air while standing completely outside the building on the terrace grounds.
  • Charges: Weapon offenses and civil disorder on restricted grounds.
  • Outcome: His federal case under the January 6 statutes was dismissed following the blanket pardon.

Summary of the Legal Distinction​

The Department of Justice used geofencing data and video to prove that these defendants crossed a clear geographic boundary line (the "restricted perimeter"). In court, the government successfully established that physical entry into the building was not required to secure a conviction under federal trespassing or conspiracy laws.
 
Cellblock2429 said:
/----/ Sure thing Spanky.

The High-Profile Outside Organizers​

The most prominent defendants who never stepped foot inside the Capitol building were leaders of political groups who remained on the outside grounds to organize, observe, or direct activities.

Enrique Tarrio (Leader of the Proud Boys)​

  • The Case: Tarrio was actually not even in Washington, D.C., on January 6; he had been arrested two days prior on unrelated charges and ordered by a judge to leave the city. However, federal prosecutors argued that he co-directed the group's movements remotely from a hotel room in Baltimore, Maryland.
  • Charges: Seditious Conspiracy and Obstruction of an Official Proceeding.
  • Outcome: He was convicted at trial and sentenced to 22 years in prison. His sentence was commuted to time served in January 2025, though his underlying felony conviction remained active.

Stewart Rhodes (Founder of the Oath Keepers)​

  • The Case: Rhodes traveled to Washington, D.C., and spent the afternoon of January 6 on the Capitol grounds, standing near the steps and directing members of his organization via encrypted apps. He did not cross the physical threshold into the building.
  • Charges: Seditious Conspiracy.
  • Outcome: Convicted at trial and sentenced to 18 years in prison. Like Tarrio, his sentence was commuted to time served in January 2025 with the felony conviction upheld.

2. Misdemeanor Cases: "Restricted Grounds" Only​

For individuals who were completely non-violent but crossed onto the outer plazas, steps, or inauguration stages, prosecutors relied on misdemeanor trespassing statutes.

Couy Griffin (Founder of "Cowboys for Trump")​

  • The Case: A prominent test case for the outer perimeter. Griffin, then an elected county commissioner from New Mexico, climbed over a stone wall, breached the outer bicycle racks, and walked up to the constructed inauguration stage on the Lower West Terrace. He spent his time on the steps peacefully leading a prayer via a megaphone and never went inside.
  • Charges: 18 U.S.C. § 1752(a)(1) (Entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds).
  • The Legal Precedent: Griffin argued he didn't realize the area was restricted because Vice President Mike Pence had already been evacuated, meaning the Secret Service protection zone shouldn't apply. The judge rejected this, noting the presence of physical barriers made it clear to any reasonable person that the area was off-limits.
  • Outcome: Convicted of the trespassing misdemeanor in a bench trial. He was later fully exonerated under the presidential blanket pardon.

3. Exterior Felony Cases: Violence or Destruction Outside​

Many individuals faced years in prison strictly for actions taken on the outdoor terraces, plazas, and scaffolding.

Daniel Ball​

  • The Case: Ball remained outside on the Capitol terraces during the crowd's push against law enforcement lines. He did not enter the structure.
  • Charges: Assaulting, Resisting, or Impeding Officers, alongside weapons charges for deploying an explosive device/firecracker into the crowd outside.
  • Outcome: His federal J6 case was resolved following the blanket pardon.

John Banuelos​

  • The Case: Banuelos was photographed and recorded on the external plazas of the Capitol. He became a focus of investigators after video footage emerged showing him brandishing and firing a handgun into the air while standing completely outside the building on the terrace grounds.
  • Charges: Weapon offenses and civil disorder on restricted grounds.
  • Outcome: His federal case under the January 6 statutes was dismissed following the blanket pardon.

Summary of the Legal Distinction​

The Department of Justice used geofencing data and video to prove that these defendants crossed a clear geographic boundary line (the "restricted perimeter"). In court, the government successfully established that physical entry into the building was not required to secure a conviction under federal trespassing or conspiracy laws.
Click to expand...
None of those names were old ladies who were thrown in jail for years just for walking through the mall.

And the names you did give are nonsense too. Enrique Tarrio and Stewart Rhodes were convicted on the most serious charge of seditious conspiracy.

Couy Griffin did nothing bad beyond being on Capital grounds, which was a crime. Sentenced to 14 days.

Daniel Ball was assaulting police and threw an explosive device into the tunnel police were defending.

John Banuelos, while never going into the building, was carrying a firearm on Capitol grounds (a felony), and discharging it on Capitol grounds (also a felony).

Face it, there were no old ladies thrown in jail for years just for walking through the mall. That's why you couldn't name one.
 
Political-Junkie said:
None of those names were old ladies who were thrown in jail for years just for walking through the mall.

And the names you did give are nonsense too. Enrique Tarrio and Stewart Rhodes were convicted on the most serious charge of seditious conspiracy.

Couy Griffin did nothing bad beyond being on Capital grounds, which was a crime. Sentenced to 14 days.

Daniel Ball was assaulting police and threw an explosive device into the tunnel police were defending.

John Banuelos, while never going into the building, was carrying a firearm on Capitol grounds (a felony), and discharging it on Capitol grounds (also a felony).

Face it, there were no old ladies thrown in jail for years just for walking through the mall. That's why you couldn't name one.
Click to expand...
/----/ OK, you want to split hairs. Here is an old lady who was arrested for spending 10 minutes in the capital building. You can now go ask your caretaker for a cookie. Happy now?
Funny thing is democRATs can spew any hyped-up swill they want and never have to substantiate any of it. But we have to be spot on with documentation and receipts. We better not be off by one millimeter.

Time​

A few elderly female defendants became prominent in media coverage, but a look at their cases reveals a different set of facts regarding entry and sentencing:

​

  • Rebecca Lavrenz (The "J6 Praying Grandma"): Frequently cited in online debates, Lavrenz was 72 years old when sentenced. However, she did enter the Capitol building, spending about 10 minutes inside. She was convicted of four misdemeanor counts, and federal prosecutors fought for a 10-month prison sentence. The judge explicitly rejected jail time, sentencing her instead to six months of home confinement and a fine.
 
Cellblock2429 said:
/----/ OK, you want to split hairs. Here is an old lady who was arrested for spending 10 minutes in the capital building. You can now go ask your caretaker for a cookie. Happy now?
Funny thing is democRATs can spew any hyped-up swill they want and never have to substantiate any of it. But we have to be spot on with documentation and receipts. We better not be off by one millimeter.

Time​

A few elderly female defendants became prominent in media coverage, but a look at their cases reveals a different set of facts regarding entry and sentencing:

​

  • Rebecca Lavrenz (The "J6 Praying Grandma"): Frequently cited in online debates, Lavrenz was 72 years old when sentenced. However, she did enter the Capitol building, spending about 10 minutes inside. She was convicted of four misdemeanor counts, and federal prosecutors fought for a 10-month prison sentence. The judge explicitly rejected jail time, sentencing her instead to six months of home confinement and a fine.
Click to expand...
Rebecca Lavrenz went inside the building, pleaded not guilty, and was sentenced to 12 months probation, no jail time.

Still not one name of an old lady sent to jail for years just for walking through the mall.
 
Political-Junkie said:
Rebecca Lavrenz went inside the building, pleaded not guilty, and was sentenced to 12 months probation, no jail time.

Still not one name of an old lady sent to jail for years just for walking through the mall.
Click to expand...
/----/ OK - ask your caretaker for two cookies. You deserve it for splitting hairs.
 
MarathonMike said:
For historical perspective, the Obama administration "attempted" to just fix the leaks and structural issues in the Reflecting Pool and FAILED. And oh BTW they spent $34 million dollars to accomplish NOTHING. The estimates President Trump received to complete Reflecting Pool repairs and restoration were $355 million and over 3 years. He got it done for under $30 million dollars and under 3 months!

Democrats are furious their latest taxpayer fleece scam was thwarted. As we know by now, if the gubmint says $355 million and $3 years it will be $1 billion dollars and 5 years in the end. It's great to have a President who defends taxpayer dollars the same way he defends our borders.

Click to expand...



Now, the progressives can get on with their waiting for the welfare checks to arrive.
 
15th post
Couchpotato said:
Was a filtration system part of the SOW? Something tells me it wasnt.
Click to expand...

Then they were idiots.

If the problem is that algae water is getting into the pond (Fed by nitrates from the Potomac due to all the agricultural runoff) it would seem that treating the water before it got into the pool should have been a major consideration.
 
I nominate this thread for biggest self own of all time.
 
JoeB131 said:
Then they were idiots.

If the problem is that algae water is getting into the pond (Fed by nitrates from the Potomac due to all the agricultural runoff) it would seem that treating the water before it got into the pool should have been a major consideration.
Click to expand...
There was a filtration system installed already, Einstein. During the Obama admin so he’s a failure right?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Trump has turned the FIFA World Cup into an embarrassment for the US

< Previous Thread

Time for a CIVIL LAWSUIT - "Karmelo & family"

Next Thread >

Similar threads

excalibur
Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool gets a blue coating as Trump tackles renovation project
Replies
13
Views
265
the watcher
the watcher
berg80
Trump attacked his foes for rising project costs. Now he’s dismissing the price of his own
2
Replies
29
Views
312
berg80
berg80
Crepitus
  • Locked
America 250 vs freedom 250
Replies
4
Views
201
OKTexas
OKTexas
IM2
We can't afford anything until it's time for war.
3 4 5
Replies
96
Views
2K
Matted Joybeard
M
Doc7505
Democrats Spit on Democracy, Midterm Voters Should be Scared
Replies
11
Views
280
Captain Caveman
Captain Caveman

New Topics

Latest Discussions

Back
Top Bottom