The Reality of Electricity in America || Peter Zeihan

The dude completely ignored hydro power.
 
the ;dude' is completely incapable of doing the math G5000 ~S~
 
Lmao another debatepolitics person posting incoherent schizophrenic gobbledygook. How shocking.
 
@ Litwin ....green energy is an oxymoron ...........don't be on the end of that....~S~
 
Lmao another debatepolitics person posting incoherent schizophrenic gobbledygook. How shocking.
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right ? :lol:



still, How do you U.S. 🇷🇺 greenies want to fuel the AI revolution?
 
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I'm all for nuclear power. Gung ho for nuclear power.

Hydro power, too.

Thermal power.

Solar power. Not panels. The kind with a solar tower.

Wind power.

All of it except coal.

We could turn the state of Nevada into one giant solar farm which could power the entire US. We could use illegal immigrants and convicts to the clear the farms of brush and weeds.
 
the ;dude' is completely incapable of doing the math G5000 ~S~
I’m 100% sure the U.S. will become the world leader in producing SMRs—one way or another.

Meanwhile, the gas 🇷🇺
station (masquerading as a country) that wants to conquer us… well, it’s running out of tricks. :lol:
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I'm all for nuclear power. Gung ho for nuclear power.

Hydro power, too.

Thermal power.

Solar power. Not panels. The kind with a solar tower.

Wind power.

All of it except coal.

We could turn the state of Nevada into one giant solar farm which could power the entire US. We could use illegal immigrants and convicts to the clear the farms of brush and weeds.
nice fantasy G5000

~S~
 
I'm all for nuclear power. Gung ho for nuclear power.

Hydro power, too.

Thermal power.

Solar power. Not panels. The kind with a solar tower.

Wind power.

All of it except coal.

We could turn the state of Nevada into one giant solar farm which could power the entire US. We could use illegal immigrants and convicts to the clear the farms of brush and weeds.
many experts suggest that coal + nukes are the only way

 
many experts suggest that coal + nukes are the only way

Coal has been on its way out for a while now. It's done.

Natural gas is on the way up, replacing coal.

And who knows. Maybe fusion is around the corner. Then all our energy worries will be over.
 
Coal has been on its way out for a while now. It's done.

Natural gas is on the way up, replacing coal.

And who knows. Maybe fusion is around the corner. Then all our energy worries will be over.
one thing is for sure, the leftists (communist ?) have introduces far too many regulations, so they have to be removed as soon as possible !


🇷🇺 They're Lying to You About Nuclear Energy​

 
I suppose we could just remove regulations and go back to toxic waste dumps in our back yards and cancer clusters and our rivers catching fire every year and skyrocketing industry deaths and permanent injuries. Sure!

Don't fall for the bullshit that regulations are costing business a lot of money for no good reason.

Regulations save money and lives.



Example:

Regulations At Work

A rule requiring the cotton industry to reduce dust in textile factories lowered the
prevalence of brown lung among industry employees by 97 percent;

A rule requiring employers to place locks and warning labels on powered equipment
is credited with preventing 50,000 injuries and 120 fatalities per year;

A rule on excavations at construction sites has reduced the fatality rate from cave-ins
by 40 percent;

A grain-handling facilities standard has reduced the number of fatalities caused by
dust-related explosions by 95 percent;

And a 1969 mine safety law led to a rapid 50 percent decrease in the coal mine
fatality rate.



[snip]

After a series of catastrophic grain explosions in the late 1970s left 59 workers dead in just
one month, the hazards of grain facilities drew the attention of federal regulators. OSHA
began developing its Grain Handling Facilities Standard, which it finalized in 1987. The
regulation limited the amount of dust allowed on surfaces within grain facilities and
required testing of silos for combustible gases. It also prohibited employees from entering
storage bins without a proper harness and a spotter present.

Industry groups and the Reagan administrations Office of Management and Budget voiced
opposition to the Grain Handling Facilities Standard during the rulemaking process.
A
spokesman for the National Grain and Feed Association derided the proposed limits to
grain dust levels, saying, Research shows no one level of dust is more hazardous than
another.28 One official from the Office of Management and Budget referred to OSHAs
assessment of grain facility hazards as substantially overstated.29

In the end, the OSHA standard made grain handling facilities much safer places to work.
The National Grain and Feed Association (NGFA), which initially opposed the standard,
now finds it to be remarkably effective at improving workplace safety, citing a 95 percent
drop in explosion-related fatalities for certain facilities.
30 In comments submitted to OSHA
in 1998, NGFA stated that in the years following the standard, there has been an
unprecedented decline in explosions, injuries and fatalities at grain handling facilities.31
OSHAs analysis shows that the standard prevented an average of five suffocation deaths
per year.32 Data presented by industry showed that the standard annually prevents eight
injuries and four deaths resulting from explosions in grain elevators.




So not only do regulations save lives, the very industries which are regulated initially OPPOSED making any changes to the way they did business, and now they SUPPORT the regulations.


Coal mines are among the most dangerous workplaces in the United States. Workers, facing
the ever-present risks of mine explosion and collapse, must perform their jobs in confined
spaces near heavy machinery. Since 1900, over 100,000 miners have been killed on the
job.34 Mining has become dramatically safer, however. The first major decrease in fatality
rates began in the late 1940s, as mines began relying less on explosives and more on
machinery.35 But after the early 1950s, progress on mine safety stagnated; the fatality rate
remained largely unchanged between 1950 and 1969.36 It was not until the 1969 passage
of the Federal Mine Health and Safety Act that government regulatory efforts spurred
another major decrease in coal mining fatality rates, and the results were dramatic.

Regulation of the mining industry increased gradually throughout the 20th century. The
federal government first addressed mine safety in 1910 when Congress created the U.S.
Bureau of Mines (USBM). USBM was primarily engaged in conducting research and
investigating catastrophic mine accidents. The agency had no regulatory authority
throughout most of its existence. Even after Congress granted it authority to inspect certain
mines in 1952, USBM lacked the power to compel mining operations to make needed
changes. In 1969, Congress passed the Federal Mine Health and Safety Act, the first
comprehensive mine safety law creating mandatory inspection requirements, enforceable
health and safety standards, and civil and criminal penalties for willful violations. The law
laid the framework for even stronger protections under the Mine Safety and Health Act of
1977, which established the Mine Safety and Health Administration (MSHA).

In 1969, the year that the Federal Mine Health and Safety Act passed, 152 fatalities
occurred for every 100,000 underground coal miners. After the acts passage, these fatality
rates dropped off steeply, decreasing by 50 percent in just four years.
 
I suppose we could just remove regulations and go back to toxic waste dumps in our back yards and cancer clusters and our rivers catching fire every year and skyrocketing industry deaths and permanent injuries. Sure!

Don't fall for the bullshit that regulations are costing business a lot of money for no good reason.

Regulations save money and lives.



Example:

Regulations At Work

A rule requiring the cotton industry to reduce dust in textile factories lowered the
prevalence of brown lung among industry employees by 97 percent;

A rule requiring employers to place locks and warning labels on powered equipment
is credited with preventing 50,000 injuries and 120 fatalities per year;

A rule on excavations at construction sites has reduced the fatality rate from cave-ins
by 40 percent;

A grain-handling facilities standard has reduced the number of fatalities caused by
dust-related explosions by 95 percent;

And a 1969 mine safety law led to a rapid 50 percent decrease in the coal mine
fatality rate.



[snip]

After a series of catastrophic grain explosions in the late 1970s left 59 workers dead in just
one month, the hazards of grain facilities drew the attention of federal regulators. OSHA
began developing its Grain Handling Facilities Standard, which it finalized in 1987. The
regulation limited the amount of dust allowed on surfaces within grain facilities and
required testing of silos for combustible gases. It also prohibited employees from entering
storage bins without a proper harness and a spotter present.

Industry groups and the Reagan administrations Office of Management and Budget voiced
opposition to the Grain Handling Facilities Standard during the rulemaking process.
A
spokesman for the National Grain and Feed Association derided the proposed limits to
grain dust levels, saying, Research shows no one level of dust is more hazardous than
another.28 One official from the Office of Management and Budget referred to OSHAs
assessment of grain facility hazards as substantially overstated.29

In the end, the OSHA standard made grain handling facilities much safer places to work.
The National Grain and Feed Association (NGFA), which initially opposed the standard,
now finds it to be remarkably effective at improving workplace safety, citing a 95 percent
drop in explosion-related fatalities for certain facilities.
30 In comments submitted to OSHA
in 1998, NGFA stated that in the years following the standard, there has been an
unprecedented decline in explosions, injuries and fatalities at grain handling facilities.31
OSHAs analysis shows that the standard prevented an average of five suffocation deaths
per year.32 Data presented by industry showed that the standard annually prevents eight
injuries and four deaths resulting from explosions in grain elevators.




So not only do regulations save lives, the very industries which are regulated initially OPPOSED making any changes to the way they did business, and now they SUPPORT the regulations.


Coal mines are among the most dangerous workplaces in the United States. Workers, facing
the ever-present risks of mine explosion and collapse, must perform their jobs in confined
spaces near heavy machinery. Since 1900, over 100,000 miners have been killed on the
job.34 Mining has become dramatically safer, however. The first major decrease in fatality
rates began in the late 1940s, as mines began relying less on explosives and more on
machinery.35 But after the early 1950s, progress on mine safety stagnated; the fatality rate
remained largely unchanged between 1950 and 1969.36 It was not until the 1969 passage
of the Federal Mine Health and Safety Act that government regulatory efforts spurred
another major decrease in coal mining fatality rates, and the results were dramatic.

Regulation of the mining industry increased gradually throughout the 20th century. The
federal government first addressed mine safety in 1910 when Congress created the U.S.
Bureau of Mines (USBM). USBM was primarily engaged in conducting research and
investigating catastrophic mine accidents. The agency had no regulatory authority
throughout most of its existence. Even after Congress granted it authority to inspect certain
mines in 1952, USBM lacked the power to compel mining operations to make needed
changes. In 1969, Congress passed the Federal Mine Health and Safety Act, the first
comprehensive mine safety law creating mandatory inspection requirements, enforceable
health and safety standards, and civil and criminal penalties for willful violations. The law
laid the framework for even stronger protections under the Mine Safety and Health Act of
1977, which established the Mine Safety and Health Administration (MSHA).

In 1969, the year that the Federal Mine Health and Safety Act passed, 152 fatalities
occurred for every 100,000 underground coal miners. After the acts passage, these fatality
rates dropped off steeply, decreasing by 50 percent in just four years.
Imagine if mankind abandoned fire because a guy burnt himself one time. People that hate nuclear power will not watch this video unfortunately.

🇷🇺 They're Lying to You About Nuclear Energy​



One other thing that people have a problem with is nuclear waste as well, what people don’t realize is that we can recharge and reuse 90-95% of nuclear waste...
 
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The dude completely ignored hydro power.
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Or three mile and Indian point starting up.
Meanwhile, Small Modular Reactors (SMRs) are expected to be operational in the next few years in the U.S., as the first commercial SMRs are projected to come online around 2026. While there is significant interest and development in SMR technology, challenges remain in achieving commercial deployment in such a short timeframe.
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Or three mile and Indian point starting up.
Meanwhile, Small Modular Reactors (SMRs) are expected to be operational in the next few years in the U.S., as the first commercial SMRs are projected to come online around 2026. While there is significant interest and development in SMR technology, challenges remain in achieving commercial deployment in such a short timeframe.
Read more:
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Modular reactors don’t always need to be small, don’t you think?
 
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Or three mile and Indian point starting up.
Meanwhile, Small Modular Reactors (SMRs) are expected to be operational in the next few years in the U.S., as the first commercial SMRs are projected to come online around 2026. While there is significant interest and development in SMR technology, challenges remain in achieving commercial deployment in such a short timeframe.
Read more:
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We have had compact nuclear reactor plants on navy submarines since the 1950s.
 
electricty is not going to save humanity , not sorry ~S~
 
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