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Nope. That you're adding words to her actual quote that she never said expises you're lying.
But you said it was Patel. Try again with facts and not guesses.
Neither Bowser nor Pelosi were asked to deploy DCNG, as neither had any control over the DCNG.
1. Nancy Pelosi takes responsibility for J6. Case closed.
2. Patel published the Bowser letter. That Bowser denied the request for the NG is what matters. Case closed.
3. Yes they were asked to authorize the deployment of the NG, and both denied the requests. Bowser by letter, Pelosi by her direct report Irving. Case closed.
 
1. Nancy Pelosi takes responsibility for J6. Case closed.
2. Patel published the Bowser letter. That Bowser denied the request for the NG is what matters. Case closed.
3. Yes they were asked to authorize the deployment of the NG, and both denied the requests. Bowser by letter, Pelosi by her direct report Irving. Case closed.

1. Nope.

2. The letter wasn't addressed to Patel.

3. Nope.
 
I just showed you Trump said it was 10K DCNG. :eusa_doh:

Bowser says Trump never asked her for that and there is no evidence he did.

Pelosi says Trump never asked her for that and there's no evidence he did.

And neither of them had any control over the DCNG. If Trump actually wanted 10K DCNG (there weren't that many anyway) HE could have deployed them. He was the Commander-in-Chief of the DCNG. So why didn't he?

And that was before J6. On J6, when he was watching his own supporters ransack the Capitol, he could have deployed them and he still didn't. What the ****?
1. The Kash Patel video in post #112 says up to 20,000. The DC NG had 40 men on standby only to help the 340 doing DC traffic control. Nothing substantial, such as the FBI memo warned of. Once again the ******* FBI goes anti-Trump.
2. I never said Trump asked her, someone asked her, and she sent a letter out 1/5 denying the request.
3. I never said Trump asked Pelosi, I said Capitol Police Chief Sund asked Sgt. at Arms Irving, Pelosi's direct report, who denied his request.
4. Trump ordered SECDEF Miller to "fill the request" for NG troops, but Miller, according to the LAW needed civilian authority to request the deployment. Both Bowser and Pelosi denied to request NG troops.
5. Trump could not deploy the NG troops w/o a civilian request, as per SECDEF Miller's testimony, quoted in post #112, item-3.
6. Trump could not deploy the NG on J6, the civilian authorities Bowser and Pelosi refused to authorize them as per the LAW per Miller's testimony referenced in #5.
7. I found this summary, its an interesting read. I "bolded" some interesting "lines".

Dec. 31: Washington, D.C., Mayor Muriel Bowser and Dr. Christopher Rodriguez, the D.C. director of homeland security and emergency management agency, deliver a written request for D.C. National Guard support of the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department for the rally, according to a Pentagon timeline issued Jan. 8. In her letter, Bowser says, “No DCNG personnel shall be armed during this mission, and at no time, will DCNG personnel or assets be engaged in domestic surveillance, searches, or seizures of US persons.” [TRAFFIC CONTROL ONLY]

The Capitol Police has jurisdiction over the federal Capitol building and grounds, while the D.C. police force has jurisdiction over city streets and property.


Jan. 3:
The Department of Defense confirms with Capitol Police that there is no request for DoD support, according to the Pentagon. Acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller meets with “select Cabinet Members to discuss DoD support to law enforcement agencies and potential requirements for DoD support,” the Pentagon says.


Miller and Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, meet with Trump, according to the Department of Defense. Trump agrees to activate the D.C. National Guard to support D.C. police (not Capitol Police) with crowd and traffic control. The Pentagon later tells Pro Publica, “The President had no role in tactical matters as the capabilities deployed and location were dictated solely by the request from D.C. government.”


D.C. Police Chief Robert Contee says 340 guardsmen will assist with crowd management and traffic control to free up the city police officers to respond to potential acts of violence and other security issues
, according to CNN.


Jan. 4: Capitol Police again confirms there is no need for DoD support in a phone call with Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy, according to the Pentagon. Miller, in consultation with Milley, McCarthy and DoD general counsel, “reviews the Department’s plan to be prepared to provide support to civil authorities, if asked, and approves activation of 340 members of the DCNG to support Mayor Bowser’s request.” The support is mostly for traffic control, crowd control at subway stations and logistics support. Miller also authorizes McCarthy to deploy a “Quick Reaction Force” of 40 National Guard members staged at Joint Base Andrews in Maryland “if additional support is requested by civil authorities.”


Capitol Police Chief Sund asks the House and Senate sergeant-at-arms about the possibility of placing the D.C. National Guard on standby, in case the Capitol Police needed quick backup. In an interview with the Washington Post published on Jan. 10, Sund says they were hesitant to agree. According to the article, “House Sergeant at Arms Paul Irving said he wasn’t comfortable with the ‘optics’ of formally declaring an emergency ahead of the demonstration, Sund said. Meanwhile, Senate Sergeant at Arms Michael Stenger suggested that Sund should informally seek out his Guard contacts, asking them to ‘lean forward’ and be on alert in case Capitol Police needed their help.” All three officials — Sund, Irving and Stenger — have since resigned.


Update, Jan. 28: In prepared testimony for her Jan. 26 appearance before a closed session of the House Appropriations Committee – which was obtained by the New York Times — the acting chief of the Capitol Police, Yogananda D. Pittman, confirmed that on Jan. 4 – two days before the riot – “Sund requested that the Capitol Police Board declare a state of emergency and authorize a request to secure National Guard support. The Board denied the request, but encouraged Chief Sund to contact the DC National Guard to determine how many Guardsman could be sent to the Capitol on short notice, which he did.” The Capitol Police Board has three voting members: the House and Senate sergeants-at-arms and the architect of the Capitol. As we noted in our initial report, the House and Senate sergeants-at-arms have since resigned.


Jan. 5: According to the Pentagon, Mayor Bowser delivers a letter addressed to the U.S. acting attorney general, Miller and McCarthy confirming that there are no additional support requests from the D.C. National Guard. Bowser later says that she already had the support she requested from the National Guard and that any decision to request guard forces to protect the Capitol is not hers. “The Capitol Police and the leadership at the Capitol, they did not make the decision to call in guard support,” Bowser later says in a press conference on Jan. 7. “I cannot order the Army, the National Guard, to the United States Capitol grounds. I can, in the district, with the approval of the secretary of the Army.”


According to an internal document reviewed by the Washington Post, an FBI office in Virginia issues a warning that extremists are preparing to commit violence in Washington on Jan. 6. According to the bulletin — which Steven D’Antuono, head of the FBI’s Washington field office, said was shared “with all our law enforcement partners” through the joint terrorism task force — “An online thread discussed specific calls for violence to include stating ‘Be ready to fight. Congress needs to hear glass breaking, doors being kicked in, and blood from their BLM and Pantifa slave soldiers being spilled. Get violent. Stop calling this a march, or rally, or a protest. Go there ready for war. We get our President or we die. NOTHING else will achieve this goal.” Sund told the Post he never received nor was made aware of the FBI’s field bulletin.


Update, Jan. 28: According to a Jan. 5 memo obtained by the Washington Post, the Pentagon restricted the authority of Maj. Gen. William J. Walker, the commanding general of the District of Columbia National Guard, so that he could not deploy the quick reaction force without approval from higher-ups. In an interview published in the Washington Post on Jan. 26, Walker said those required authorizations contributed to delays in the National Guard response the following day. According to the Washington Post, Walker “needed to wait for approval from [former Army secretary Ryan] McCarthy and acting defense secretary Christopher C. Miller before dispatching troops, even though some 40 soldiers were on standby as a quick reaction force. That standby force had been assembled in case the few hundred Guard members deployed that day on the District’s streets to assist police with traffic control and crowd management needed help, Walker said. … Had he not been restricted, Walker said he could have dispatched members of the D.C. Guard sooner.”
 
1. The Kash Patel video in post #112 says up to 20,000. The DC NG had 40 men on standby only to help the 340 doing DC traffic control. Nothing substantial, such as the FBI memo warned of. Once again the ******* FBI goes anti-Trump.

Just the other night, Trump said 10K. Does he not know what he asked for?

2. I never said Trump asked her, someone asked her, and she sent a letter out 1/5 denying the request.

You said Patel asked her. Now you indicate you don't know who asked her. No one in that meeting has said they asked her and why would they? She has no control of the deployment of the DCNG.

3. I never said Trump asked Pelosi, I said Capitol Police Chief Sund asked Sgt. at Arms Irving, Pelosi's direct report, who denied his request.

Yes, Irving, not Pelosi, rejected his request. Pelosi was not asked.

4. Trump ordered SECDEF Miller to "fill the request" for NG troops, but Miller, according to the LAW needed civilian authority to request the deployment. Both Bowser and Pelosi denied to request NG troops.

That's correct. Neither of them asked for DCNG. And neither of them were asked to deploy them or even if they wanted the DCNG deployed.

5. Trump could not deploy the NG troops w/o a civilian request, as per SECDEF Miller's testimony, quoted in post #112, item-3.

And Miller did not say he couldn't get the DCNG deployed without a civilian authority; he said he wouldn't. Which means he could have but chose not to.

6. Trump could not deploy the NG on J6, the civilian authorities Bowser and Pelosi refused to authorize them as per the LAW per Miller's testimony referenced in #5.

Trump was the Commander-in-Chief of the DCNG. He did not require a request from anybody to deploy the DCNG.
 
Just the other night, Trump said 10K. Does he not know what he asked for?

You said Patel asked her. Now you indicate you don't know who asked her. No one in that meeting has said they asked her and why would they? She has no control of the deployment of the DCNG.

Yes, Irving, not Pelosi, rejected his request. Pelosi was not asked.

That's correct. Neither of them asked for DCNG. And neither of them were asked to deploy them or even if they wanted the DCNG deployed.

And Miller did not say he couldn't get the DCNG deployed without a civilian authority; he said he wouldn't. Which means he could have but chose not to.

Trump was the Commander-in-Chief of the DCNG. He did not require a request from anybody to deploy the DCNG.
1. Trump said "fill the request" for up to 10,000 or 20,000 NG, but the request never came from Pelosi.

2. If you read the summary, the Jan 5 paragraph, you understand that Bowser is not responsible for security at the Capitol, that is the responsibility of Nancy Pelosi. She failed, and she takes responsibility. In her favor is the fact that the FBI riot warning does not reach her (I assume) or her staff, or she might have requested the NG.

3. Irving reports to Pelosi. Capitol security is her responsibility as Speaker.

4. The LAW said Miller could not deploy the NG unless requested by civilian authority.

5. Trump is not a dictator. The DC NG deployment follows the LAW. From the summary:
The Pentagon later tells Pro Publica, “The President had no role in tactical matters as the capabilities deployed and location were dictated solely by the request from D.C. government.” (i.e. they could only help with traffic control)

6. What a ******* mess. The FBI withheld crucial information about the coming Capitol riot from Pelosi & Sund and Trump. The FBI had instigators who were fomenting the riot. The guy who planted the pipe bombs on video was never caught, why not? He probably was FBI. Bowser requested 340 NG troops to replace DC cops to free them up to support the Capitol police, so where were the DC police during the riot? There were only 40 NG troops on standby, but they could only help with DC traffic control, per #5 above.
Pelosi really fucked up by not requesting NG troops to help the Capitol police. There were ZERO NG troops available to help the Capitol police on J6. The riot ended when the DC SWAT team ended it. So why did they wait so long?
 
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1. Trump said "fill the request" for up to 10,000 or 20,000 NG, but the request never came from Pelosi.

2. If you read the summary, the Jan 5 paragraph, you understand that Bowser is not responsible for security at the Capitol, that is the responsibility of Nancy Pelosi. She failed, and she takes responsibility. In her favor is the fact that the FBI riot warning does not reach her (I assume) or her staff, or she might have requested the NG.

3. Irving reports to Pelosi. Capitol security is her responsibility as Speaker.

4. The LAW said Miller could not deploy the NG unless requested by civilian authority.

5. Trump is not a dictator. The DC NG deployment follows the LAW. From the summary:
The Pentagon later tells Pro Publica, “The President had no role in tactical matters as the capabilities deployed and location were dictated solely by the request from D.C. government.” (i.e. they could only help with traffic control)

6. What a ******* mess. The FBI withheld crucial information about the coming Capitol riot from Pelosi & Sund and Trump. The FBI had instigators who were fomenting the riot. The guy who planted the pipe bombs on video was never caught, why not? He probably was FBI. Bowser requested 340 NG troops to replace DC cops to free them up to support the Capitol police, so where were the DC police during the riot? There were only 40 NG troops on standby, but they could only help with DC traffic control, per #5 above.
Pelosi really fucked up by not requesting NG troops to help the Capitol police. There were ZERO NG troops available to help the Capitol police on J6. The riot ended when the DC SWAT team ended it. So why did they wait so long?

No matter how many times you repeat it, it will never be true. The Capitol Police Board, not the Speaker of the House, is in charge of Capitol Security. The Speaker of the House is in charge of the House, not the Capitol. The Senate Majority Leader is in charge of the Senate, not the Capitol. Each chamber has a voting member on the Capitol Police Board. The Capitol Police Board has a third voting member, the Architect of the Capitol. The 4th member is a non-voting position held by the police chief of the Capitol.
 
No matter how many times you repeat it, it will never be true. The Capitol Police Board, not the Speaker of the House, is in charge of Capitol Security. The Speaker of the House is in charge of the House, not the Capitol. The Senate Majority Leader is in charge of the Senate, not the Capitol. Each chamber has a voting member on the Capitol Police Board. The Capitol Police Board has a third voting member, the Architect of the Capitol. The 4th member is a non-voting position held by the police chief of the Capitol.
True.
However, Nancy must have had input to Irving because he referenced her "policy" in denying the request for the NG, which is probably why she "takes responsibility".
That said, I place most of the blame for J6 on the FBI who knew there would be violence but did not warn the Capitol Police or the Capitol Police Board, who would have had the NG there if they knew there would be trouble.
I also put some blame on Bowser, who had 340 NG troops there in DC doing traffic control freeing up 340 DC cops to help the Capitol Police, so where were they during the riot?
Good discussion. <poof>
 
True.
However, Nancy must have had input to Irving because he referenced her "policy" in denying the request for the NG, which is probably why she "takes responsibility".
That said, I place most of the blame for J6 on the FBI who knew there would be violence but did not warn the Capitol Police or the Capitol Police Board, who would have had the NG there if they knew there would be trouble.
I also put some blame on Bowser, who had 340 NG troops there in DC doing traffic control freeing up 340 DC cops to help the Capitol Police, so where were they during the riot?
Good discussion. <poof>

Her policy stemmed after an earlier riot by BLM. Irving, not Pelosi, rejected Sunds request for DCNG.

As far as the FBI, they had informants they knew were going to attend the protest. But I'm not aware they knew some were planning violence. Not saying they didn't know. I just don't know what they knew.

As far as Bowser, I also don't know if she knew it would turn violent. She sees protests all the time in D.C.. They very rarely turn violent.
 
It's mr., and unfortunately for Trump, he was found guilty on the evidence. He's not innocent. Also unfortunately for him, even if he becomes president, he can't escape the law on state charges.
Name the alleged crime, please, and when was it voted in as a crime? And, are you certain a crime was intentionally committed, because I think it was a dirty trick to fool the country into thinking wrongfully against Trump instead of the interlopers who pushed a crime angle that would push Trump out of office when indeed he merely ticked off the nutcases who hate all conservative winners. The reason I think so is that going after an innocent man who was leading in favor of the majority of American voters was framed by the loyal opposition who broke with tradition, accurate elections and truth. If that isn't stopped, this will no longer be a united group of Ststes because divisions will be stronger than unity. I hate the thought of interloper destruction of the USA. And I hope the Supreme Court stops the baloney of using the courts to lie voting away voter choices. I pray that the Democrats respect elections free of lies and free of slander to win elections.
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Name the alleged crime, please, and when was it voted in as a crime? And, are you certain a crime was intentionally committed, because I think it was a dirty trick to fool the country into thinking wrongfully against Trump instead of the interlopers who pushed a crime angle that would push Trump out of office when indeed he merely ticked off the nutcases who hate all conservative winners. The reason I think so is that going after an innocent man who was leading in favor of the majority of American voters was framed by the loyal opposition who broke with tradition, accurate elections and truth. If that isn't stopped, this will no longer be a united group of Ststes in which divisions will be stronger than unity. I hate the thought of interloper destruction of the USA

The crime was falsifying business records in order to conceal another crime.

Did you not pay attention at all??
 
The crime was falsifying business records in order to conceal another crime.

Did you not pay attention at all??
To what? Hate speech? Beheading Trump with virtual nonstop of spending billions to pay off disgruntled employees to destroy a former employer who displeased them and want revenge while truth gets buried?

Yes, I paid attention, and all I see is competition that is unfairly attempting to utterly destroy a man their party hates because he was winning early on. When did you fail to pay attention to use the courts to determine who runs for office rather than the voters.

If the people cannot choose the candidate and the court is demanded to do it, do it, we will no longer be united. You may find this a fact that will divide this nation. What a petty way to destroy the vote of the people.
 
To what? Hate speech? Beheading Trump with virtual nonstop of spending billions to pay off disgruntled employees to destroy a former employer who displeased them and want revenge while truth gets buried?

Yes, I paid attention, and all I see is competition that is unfairly attempting to utterly destroy a man their party hates because he was winning early on. When did you fail to pay attention to use the courts to determine who runs for office rather than the voters.

If the people cannot choose the candidate and the court is demanded to do it, do it, we will no longer be united. You may find this a fact that will divide this nation. What a petty way to destroy the vote of the people.

Umm, how can you say you were paying attention yet not know either what his crime was or that evidence presented in court proved he was guilty as charged?
 
The Fraternal Order of Police has endorsed Donald Trump. So think about this, the police in America have endorsed a convicted felon for President against a prosecutor who has worked with police to convict criminals. And then people wonder why we are saying that law enforcement needs to be restructured. Our law enforcement system is corrupt.

And racist.

Back the Blue Just Never Back the Brown​

 
Various legal experts have come forward and stated that Trump should have never been found guilty of a crime.
"Various legal experts?"
FYI, Dan Bongino and Sean Hannity are not legal experts.
That this was political warfare.
aThat's fake news.
Personally, I'll take Trump, regardless of any conviction over the left's march towards Marxism and its authoritarian, oppressive and persecutory shenanigans anytime.
This kind of inflamatory rhetoric is what is causing these assasination attempts.
 
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"Various legal experts?"
FYI, Dan Bongino and Sean Hannity are not legal experts.

aThat's fake news.

This kind of inflamatory rhetoric is what is causing these assasination attempts.
It's sad that people are choosing to believe these things.
 
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