The Planet X/Nibiru/ELEnin Brown Dwarf Timeline

[Rat in the Hat]

Meister / Rat in a hat
Ok things would appear to be going around in circles about this topic so I propose to try to clarify a few things
1. I have never stated that planet x is going to suck earth’s atmosphere away (personally I think there is more chance CERN and their LHC is more of a danger but that’s another topic)
2. Yes I do use YouTube to show some points as it is easier to watch than to read endless amounts of papers

I thought that maybe if we approach this from another angle maybe it would simplify the discussion some what
So on this hypothetically
Let’s say for example that this planet actually does exist and is cyclical by nature (I understand that you do not think it exists so please do not go down that line)
Many things in our solar system are cyclical like the passing thru the galactic plane
Let’s just say that it does hypothetically exist and is cyclical, how close would it need to be to Earth to affect our rotation and poles?
Without destroying the planet totally, in AU? (We can fairly safely assume that this planet / dwarf star has never been closer than that or we would not be having this discussion now)
And say for example that it was not visible due to extreme cold or darkness and then only visible from the South Pole, how would an amateur astronomer detect this object?
What type of equipment would they require and how expensive is it? (An estimate in the millions would be ok for this exercise)

A $100 telescope from WalMart.

Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune are all balls of gas that do not emit their own light, yet I can see them because they reflect light from the sun. A star (brown dwarf or not) is also just a ball of gas. If it was inside our solar system, anyone could see it. If it was inside Jupiter's orbit, you would be able to see it with the naked eye, due to it's size.

And the story is that "Nibiru" is going to pass within 22 million miles of Earth. (4.2 times closer to us than the sun) It certainly would strip the atmosphere and break the planet apart. Look what happened to Shoemaker-Levy when it got into Jupiter's gravity well.

Calculations showed that its unusual fragmented form was due to a previous closer approach to Jupiter in July 1992. At that time, the orbit of Shoemaker–Levy 9 passed within Jupiter's Roche limit, and Jupiter's tidal forces had acted to pull the comet apart

Comet Shoemaker

Earth wouldn't stand a chance against a star. And all the survival gear, deep caves, silver and guns in the world won't help to save anyone.

 

[daveman]

"You must spread some rep around before giving it to Rat etc."

 

[Rat in the Hat]

Please explain in full detail what we are supposed to be doing to protect ourselves from the approaching brown dwarf star.

If you have loved ones, kids, dogs, a fish or whatever, you should be doing what you can to make your lives self sustainable buy storing food, water, clothes and supplies. Buy weapons and ammo to protect yourself, your family and your supplies from people like yourself that decided to ignore the POSSIBILITY that something is about to happen. Because it is those people that will suffer the most by running out of food and supplies. There is no guarantee that you or anybody will survive but that doesn't mean the best idea is to turn in denial and look the other way at the possibility that so many people are right now and right from the past about this recurring event. We could all die, certain portions of the world could all die, you might survive, nobody knows. But what I do know is that the planet at this point is populated with humans, animals, fish, insects, and everything else that we know about so obviously this hasn't been a total extinction level event in the past. Nobody knows what's in store for us this time around. Common sense prevails here, there is a possibility that this will not occur but there is also a possibility that it WILL occur, don't buy that DVD player or wide screen TV and instead spend some money on storing food and water, at least until you have enough to sustain your family for at least a few months. And don't forget there's always gonna be people that bury their heads in the sand when the warnings are there and thanks to that fact, there's gonna be people coming to get YOUR food.

All of this would be a waste of time and effort if the fabulous "Nibiru" passes within 22 million miles of Earth. Everyone and everything will be dead. I don't think anyone will care if ghosts come after their food.

Also, your solution has to include how we will prevent the gravitational forces from stripping off our atmosphere, and tearing the planet apart.

We don't know if the atmosphere will be ripped from our planet, it hasn't happened in the past, if it did, there would be no life on this planet now. There is nothing we can do about it, so the answer to this question is a big NOTHING. There is no point in worrying about something we are powerless to control. What we can control however is everything I've stated in the paragraph above. Cover your own a$$ and do what you can to prepare yourself to be a successful survivor, hopefully you'll be one.

Tidal forces from a gas giant tearing a smaller body apart has happened in the past. Comet Shoemaker-Levy.

Comet Shoemaker

Oh, and one last thing. Can you provide the co-ordinates of the star's current location so I can observe it's approach? Being only 3 months away, it should be visible by now.

Brown Dwarf stars do not produce their own light, therefore, they are difficult to find, even for NASA. An amateur astronomer will have a hard time trying to find one. You will not see it until it is close enough to the sun to reflect the sun's light. Don't assume that it has the same reflective properties as any of the planets in our solar system, it is not a planet. NASA has in fact seen this star and it is in the best interest of the general population to hide this.
I've seen information regarding it's coordinates on youtube but seeing as you're not a youtube fan I won't bother. Apparently if a fact is posted on youtube it becomes a fiction. I don't understand how youtube has that fact-reducing power but me not understanding something is nothing new right?

The 4 gas giants don't produce light of their own, yet are easily seen. Even if the reflective quality was lower, we would still see it if was closer than Jupiter, as it would be reflecting more light, due to being closer to the sun.

And NASA is hiding it? Please. Do you realize how many other countries have their own space agencies and large telescopes. Are you saying there is a vast conspiracy among all these astronomers? And not one of them is coming forward with the story of the century?

Thanks in advance.

You're welcome.

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[Meister]

Brown Dwarf stars do not produce their own light, therefore, they are difficult to find, even for NASA. An amateur astronomer will have a hard time trying to find one. You will not see it until it is close enough to the sun to reflect the sun's light. Don't assume that it has the same reflective properties as any of the planets in our solar system, it is not a planet. NASA has in fact seen this star and it is in the best interest of the general population to hide this.

Y'know, a minute or so with Wiki proves this whole thing is horseshit.

Cha 110913-773444 (sometimes abbreviated Cha 110913) is an astronomical object surrounded by what appears to be a protoplanetary disk. There is no consensus yet among astronomers whether to classify the object as a sub-brown dwarf (with planets) or a rogue planet (with moons).[1] It is smaller than OTS 44, which had been the smallest known brown dwarf prior to the discovery of Cha 110913-773444.
Cha 110913-773444 was discovered in 2004 by Kevin Luhman and others at Pennsylvania State University using the Spitzer Space Telescope and the Hubble Space Telescope, as well as two earthbound telescopes in Chile.

Distance 163 ly​

It's 163 light years from here. Yet telescopes have seen it.

And you claim one in our own back yard wouldn't be visible?

You're dismissed.

First, let's take a step back for a moment.

You're using "an astronomical object surrounded by what appears to be a protoplanetary disk. There is no consensus yet among astronomers whether to classify the object as a sub-brown dwarf (with planets) or a rogue planet (with moons)" as an example of a brown dwarf star when in fact they don't even know what the thing is. I think we can forget this evidence you're presenting to us.

Second, this is from Nasa's website describing how brown dwarf stars are detected. An amateur will probably not be able to detect a brown dwarf with his backyard telescope.

From Nasa's website, I'd post a link but I have less than 15 posts, feel free to look it up:

"Brown dwarfs are so elusive, so hard to find," McLean said. "They can be detected best in the infrared, and even within the infrared, they are very difficult to detect. We detect the heat glow from these faint objects in the infrared. Typically, they have to be relatively close by, within 100 light years, for us to even detect the heat signature."

McLean and his colleagues do so using a sophisticated instrument that McLean designed and built at UCLA with other astronomers from UCLA and the University of California, Berkeley. The instrument, attached to the W.M. Keck Observatory's 10-meter Keck II Telescope atop Mauna Kea in Hawaii -- the world's largest optical and infrared telescope -- is called NIRSPEC. It is six feet high, weighs one ton and contains the most powerful infrared spectrometer in the world.

Keep in mind, I'm not saying there is a brown dwarf star headed this way. What I'm saying is there COULD be. It would explain many natural events that are taking place within the past few years, especially in 2011 alone, and it certainly isn't impossible. If you're not suggesting that this event is impossible than you're in the same boat that I am. Good luck.

An assumption is the

Your saying that this event could cause all the natural events we've been having....yet...the easiest thing it could have plausible impact on...it isn't, and that would be the tides. WTH?

 

[Super 33]

Please explain in full detail what we are supposed to be doing to protect ourselves from the approaching brown dwarf star.

If you have loved ones, kids, dogs, a fish or whatever, you should be doing what you can to make your lives self sustainable buy storing food, water, clothes and supplies. Buy weapons and ammo to protect yourself, your family and your supplies from people like yourself that decided to ignore the POSSIBILITY that something is about to happen. Because it is those people that will suffer the most by running out of food and supplies. There is no guarantee that you or anybody will survive but that doesn't mean the best idea is to turn in denial and look the other way at the possibility that so many people are right now and right from the past about this recurring event. We could all die, certain portions of the world could all die, you might survive, nobody knows. But what I do know is that the planet at this point is populated with humans, animals, fish, insects, and everything else that we know about so obviously this hasn't been a total extinction level event in the past. Nobody knows what's in store for us this time around. Common sense prevails here, there is a possibility that this will not occur but there is also a possibility that it WILL occur, don't buy that DVD player or wide screen TV and instead spend some money on storing food and water, at least until you have enough to sustain your family for at least a few months. And don't forget there's always gonna be people that bury their heads in the sand when the warnings are there and thanks to that fact, there's gonna be people coming to get YOUR food.

All of this would be a waste of time and effort if the fabulous "Nibiru" passes within 22 million miles of Earth. Everyone and everything will be dead. I don't think anyone will care if ghosts come after their food.


We don't know if the atmosphere will be ripped from our planet, it hasn't happened in the past, if it did, there would be no life on this planet now. There is nothing we can do about it, so the answer to this question is a big NOTHING. There is no point in worrying about something we are powerless to control. What we can control however is everything I've stated in the paragraph above. Cover your own a$$ and do what you can to prepare yourself to be a successful survivor, hopefully you'll be one.

Tidal forces from a gas giant tearing a smaller body apart has happened in the past. Comet Shoemaker-Levy.


Brown Dwarf stars do not produce their own light, therefore, they are difficult to find, even for NASA. An amateur astronomer will have a hard time trying to find one. You will not see it until it is close enough to the sun to reflect the sun's light. Don't assume that it has the same reflective properties as any of the planets in our solar system, it is not a planet. NASA has in fact seen this star and it is in the best interest of the general population to hide this.
I've seen information regarding it's coordinates on youtube but seeing as you're not a youtube fan I won't bother. Apparently if a fact is posted on youtube it becomes a fiction. I don't understand how youtube has that fact-reducing power but me not understanding something is nothing new right?

The 4 gas giants don't produce light of their own, yet are easily seen. Even if the reflective quality was lower, we would still see it if was closer than Jupiter, as it would be reflecting more light, due to being closer to the sun.

And NASA is hiding it? Please. Do you realize how many other countries have their own space agencies and large telescopes. Are you saying there is a vast conspiracy among all these astronomers? And not one of them is coming forward with the story of the century?

Thanks in advance.

You're welcome.

Replies in green

Every one of your comments is based on assumption. I'm not sure why you keep comparing a brown dwarf star to planets and comets. Have you considered the possibility that there's something out there in space that you're not aware of? Why is it that you're trying so hard to shoot down a theory about something that mankind itself knows so little about? There are many factors that point to the fact that there is in fact a large mass entering our solar system. All of which have already been produced in this thread. Yet, you're arguing your facts about planets and comets. How can you tell me that the Earth's atmosphere will get ripped off if a brown dwarf came any given distance from Earth? How do you know? How can you tell me that a brown dwarf star would at this time be visible by the naked eye? Have you considered that maybe humans (including yourself) don't know EVERYTHING there is to know about brown dwarfs? Perhaps there is a reason for not being able to see it, I'm not a scientist nor an astronomer. But I do know this, human kind knows next to nothing about space and what it consists of. We know next to nothing about ourselves, where we came from, what's been here on Earth before us, what's under the ocean, what's in our own solar system and what's on the other planets now and in the past, all we can do is speculate. Yet, you insist that you've got it all figured out. I'm still a believer that there is a possibility that a brown dwarf (or a large mass of any kind) has entered our solar system and is on it's way (again) around the sun in it's normal elliptical orbit. There is too much pointing to this theory to write it off with a few assumptions, as if I know it all. I for one don't know it all, but I'm not blind and I can put the pieces of the puzzle together the best I can. I guess I'm just gonna have to keep doing what I'm doing and wait and see. If nothing happens then great. But if something does happen, if the likes of people like you were wrong in your assumptions of how space works then I'll be in a better position than you, and that's what really matters.

 

[Meister]

If you have loved ones, kids, dogs, a fish or whatever, you should be doing what you can to make your lives self sustainable buy storing food, water, clothes and supplies. Buy weapons and ammo to protect yourself, your family and your supplies from people like yourself that decided to ignore the POSSIBILITY that something is about to happen. Because it is those people that will suffer the most by running out of food and supplies. There is no guarantee that you or anybody will survive but that doesn't mean the best idea is to turn in denial and look the other way at the possibility that so many people are right now and right from the past about this recurring event. We could all die, certain portions of the world could all die, you might survive, nobody knows. But what I do know is that the planet at this point is populated with humans, animals, fish, insects, and everything else that we know about so obviously this hasn't been a total extinction level event in the past. Nobody knows what's in store for us this time around. Common sense prevails here, there is a possibility that this will not occur but there is also a possibility that it WILL occur, don't buy that DVD player or wide screen TV and instead spend some money on storing food and water, at least until you have enough to sustain your family for at least a few months. And don't forget there's always gonna be people that bury their heads in the sand when the warnings are there and thanks to that fact, there's gonna be people coming to get YOUR food.

All of this would be a waste of time and effort if the fabulous "Nibiru" passes within 22 million miles of Earth. Everyone and everything will be dead. I don't think anyone will care if ghosts come after their food.


We don't know if the atmosphere will be ripped from our planet, it hasn't happened in the past, if it did, there would be no life on this planet now. There is nothing we can do about it, so the answer to this question is a big NOTHING. There is no point in worrying about something we are powerless to control. What we can control however is everything I've stated in the paragraph above. Cover your own a$$ and do what you can to prepare yourself to be a successful survivor, hopefully you'll be one.

Tidal forces from a gas giant tearing a smaller body apart has happened in the past. Comet Shoemaker-Levy.


Brown Dwarf stars do not produce their own light, therefore, they are difficult to find, even for NASA. An amateur astronomer will have a hard time trying to find one. You will not see it until it is close enough to the sun to reflect the sun's light. Don't assume that it has the same reflective properties as any of the planets in our solar system, it is not a planet. NASA has in fact seen this star and it is in the best interest of the general population to hide this.
I've seen information regarding it's coordinates on youtube but seeing as you're not a youtube fan I won't bother. Apparently if a fact is posted on youtube it becomes a fiction. I don't understand how youtube has that fact-reducing power but me not understanding something is nothing new right?

The 4 gas giants don't produce light of their own, yet are easily seen. Even if the reflective quality was lower, we would still see it if was closer than Jupiter, as it would be reflecting more light, due to being closer to the sun.

And NASA is hiding it? Please. Do you realize how many other countries have their own space agencies and large telescopes. Are you saying there is a vast conspiracy among all these astronomers? And not one of them is coming forward with the story of the century?


You're welcome.

Replies in green

Every one of your comments is based on assumption. I'm not sure why you keep comparing a brown dwarf star to planets and comets. Have you considered the possibility that there's something out there in space that you're not aware of? Why is it that you're trying so hard to shoot down a theory about something that mankind itself knows so little about? There are many factors that point to the fact that there is in fact a large mass entering our solar system. All of which have already been produced in this thread. Yet, you're arguing your facts about planets and comets. How can you tell me that the Earth's atmosphere will get ripped off if a brown dwarf came any given distance from Earth? How do you know? How can you tell me that a brown dwarf star would at this time be visible by the naked eye? Have you considered that maybe humans (including yourself) don't know EVERYTHING there is to know about brown dwarfs? Perhaps there is a reason for not being able to see it, I'm not a scientist nor an astronomer. But I do know this, human kind knows next to nothing about space and what it consists of. We know next to nothing about ourselves, where we came from, what's been here on Earth before us, what's under the ocean, what's in our own solar system and what's on the other planets now and in the past, all we can do is speculate. Yet, you insist that you've got it all figured out. I'm still a believer that there is a possibility that a brown dwarf (or a large mass of any kind) has entered our solar system and is on it's way (again) around the sun in it's normal elliptical orbit. There is too much pointing to this theory to write it off with a few assumptions, as if I know it all. I for one don't know it all, but I'm not blind and I can put the pieces of the puzzle together the best I can. I guess I'm just gonna have to keep doing what I'm doing and wait and see. If nothing happens then great. But if something does happen, if the likes of people like you were wrong in your assumptions of how space works then I'll be in a better position than you, and that's what really matters.

With all due respect, or lack thereof, a brown dwarf would have immense gravitational pull not only to our planet but to other planets as well. THAT IS physics...period, no getting around that, sonny. I do notice that you really don't answer any obvious questions, just throw out the willy nilly and anyone who differs are in the wrong. You are a conspiracy theorist that have no evidence to back up your claims. You want us to disprove something that's not there to begin with....SERIOUSLY?????
Yes, Virginia....there are amateur scopes that would pick up something that massive in our solar system....it doesn't have a cloaking device.
Dude....go live in the hills and do your fear mongering with the likes of other conspiracy theorists, you can stroke each others ego's and tell one another about all the dumbasses that aren't believers.

 

[beachfrogg]

On March 10th 2006 NASA issued a solar storm warning for 2012 but omitted telling the general population as to why the warning in their report. Then in June of 2010, NASA once again warns the world population, but this time around, NASA warns the world community to get ready for a once in a life time solar storm. Dr Richard Fisher, head of NASA’s Heliophysics Division said: “We know it’s coming but we don’t know how bad it’s going to be.” However, “the next solar maximum should be a doozy” . NASA say’s the sun storm will be in full swing around 2012-2013, however the National Academy of Science says, “The solar storm could start any day now.” “Who ever is right, the storm is coming!” says NASA.
What NASA did not tell you is that our sun is entering into an interstellar energy cloud which is also turbulent which will cause the sun’s solar maximum in 2012 to become violent

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[Meister]

On March 10th 2006 NASA issued a solar storm warning for 2012 but omitted telling the general population as to why the warning in their report. Then in June of 2010, NASA once again warns the world population, but this time around, NASA warns the world community to get ready for a once in a life time solar storm. Dr Richard Fisher, head of NASA’s Heliophysics Division said: “We know it’s coming but we don’t know how bad it’s going to be.” However, “the next solar maximum should be a doozy” . NASA say’s the sun storm will be in full swing around 2012-2013, however the National Academy of Science says, “The solar storm could start any day now.” “Who ever is right, the storm is coming!” says NASA.
What NASA did not tell you is that our sun is entering into an interstellar energy cloud which is also turbulent which will cause the sun’s solar maximum in 2012 to become violent

THE TRUTH BEHIND THE SCENES | ACTUAL AND REVEALING NEWS, SCIENCE, TECH, SPACE, ANCIENT CIVILIZATIONS, HISTORY, MYSTERIES, SECRETS, UFO AND EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE

From your NASA source:

Solar Storm Warning

03.15.06

Researchers say a storm is coming--the most intense solar maximum in fifty years.

It's official: Solar minimum has arrived. Sunspots have all but vanished. Solar flares are nonexistent. The sun is utterly quiet.

Like the quiet before a storm.

Recently researchers announced that a storm is coming--the most intense solar maximum in fifty years. The prediction comes from a team led by Mausumi Dikpati of the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR). "The next sunspot cycle will be 30% to 50% stronger than the previous one," she says. If correct, the years ahead could produce a burst of solar activity second only to the historic Solar Max of 1958.
Dikpati's prediction is unprecedented. In nearly-two centuries since the 11-year sunspot cycle was discovered, scientists have struggled to predict the size of future maxima--and failed. Solar maxima can be intense, as in 1958, or barely detectable, as in 1805, obeying no obvious pattern.
"History shows that big sunspot cycles 'ramp up' faster than small ones," he says. "I expect to see the first sunspots of the next cycle appear in late 2006 or 2007--and Solar Max to be underway by 2010 or 2011."

Who's right? Time will tell. Either way, a storm is coming.
NASA - Solar Storm Warning

The time line seems to be off already...so who knows? If it does happen we will get some good northern light sightings. NASA omitted nothing....they stated it's from the solar cycles that create the events.

No where did NASA say this is a "Once in a life time event". The article clearly stated "in the last 50 years" But, YOUR fearmongering site of thetruthbehindthescenes.wordpress.com just projects their own beliefs and uses half truths from the NASA site to validate what they write.
Dude....don't you vet or question anything you read? Sheesh

 

[Super 33]

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Every one of your comments is based on assumption. I'm not sure why you keep comparing a brown dwarf star to planets and comets. Have you considered the possibility that there's something out there in space that you're not aware of? Why is it that you're trying so hard to shoot down a theory about something that mankind itself knows so little about? There are many factors that point to the fact that there is in fact a large mass entering our solar system. All of which have already been produced in this thread. Yet, you're arguing your facts about planets and comets. How can you tell me that the Earth's atmosphere will get ripped off if a brown dwarf came any given distance from Earth? How do you know? How can you tell me that a brown dwarf star would at this time be visible by the naked eye? Have you considered that maybe humans (including yourself) don't know EVERYTHING there is to know about brown dwarfs? Perhaps there is a reason for not being able to see it, I'm not a scientist nor an astronomer. But I do know this, human kind knows next to nothing about space and what it consists of. We know next to nothing about ourselves, where we came from, what's been here on Earth before us, what's under the ocean, what's in our own solar system and what's on the other planets now and in the past, all we can do is speculate. Yet, you insist that you've got it all figured out. I'm still a believer that there is a possibility that a brown dwarf (or a large mass of any kind) has entered our solar system and is on it's way (again) around the sun in it's normal elliptical orbit. There is too much pointing to this theory to write it off with a few assumptions, as if I know it all. I for one don't know it all, but I'm not blind and I can put the pieces of the puzzle together the best I can. I guess I'm just gonna have to keep doing what I'm doing and wait and see. If nothing happens then great. But if something does happen, if the likes of people like you were wrong in your assumptions of how space works then I'll be in a better position than you, and that's what really matters.

With all due respect, or lack thereof, a brown dwarf would have immense gravitational pull not only to our planet but to other planets as well. THAT IS physics...period, no getting around that, sonny. I do notice that you really don't answer any obvious questions, just throw out the willy nilly and anyone who differs are in the wrong. You are a conspiracy theorist that have no evidence to back up your claims. You want us to disprove something that's not there to begin with....SERIOUSLY?????
Yes, Virginia....there are amateur scopes that would pick up something that massive in our solar system....it doesn't have a cloaking device.
Dude....go live in the hills and do your fear mongering with the likes of other conspiracy theorists, you can stroke each others ego's and tell one another about all the dumbasses that aren't believers.

I understand that a brown dwarf would have a large gravitational pull. I never said it wouldn't, yes, it is physics... good for you. It is these physics that could be passing near our planet and causing a few problems. Just like I've been saying the whole time.

Okay, you're right. Nothing is gonna happen. The fact that several ancient civilizations, that knew nothing of each other, thought this event was important enough to jot down in their records is purely coincidence. It must be, there's no other explanation.

 

[Meister]

Every one of your comments is based on assumption. I'm not sure why you keep comparing a brown dwarf star to planets and comets. Have you considered the possibility that there's something out there in space that you're not aware of? Why is it that you're trying so hard to shoot down a theory about something that mankind itself knows so little about? There are many factors that point to the fact that there is in fact a large mass entering our solar system. All of which have already been produced in this thread. Yet, you're arguing your facts about planets and comets. How can you tell me that the Earth's atmosphere will get ripped off if a brown dwarf came any given distance from Earth? How do you know? How can you tell me that a brown dwarf star would at this time be visible by the naked eye? Have you considered that maybe humans (including yourself) don't know EVERYTHING there is to know about brown dwarfs? Perhaps there is a reason for not being able to see it, I'm not a scientist nor an astronomer. But I do know this, human kind knows next to nothing about space and what it consists of. We know next to nothing about ourselves, where we came from, what's been here on Earth before us, what's under the ocean, what's in our own solar system and what's on the other planets now and in the past, all we can do is speculate. Yet, you insist that you've got it all figured out. I'm still a believer that there is a possibility that a brown dwarf (or a large mass of any kind) has entered our solar system and is on it's way (again) around the sun in it's normal elliptical orbit. There is too much pointing to this theory to write it off with a few assumptions, as if I know it all. I for one don't know it all, but I'm not blind and I can put the pieces of the puzzle together the best I can. I guess I'm just gonna have to keep doing what I'm doing and wait and see. If nothing happens then great. But if something does happen, if the likes of people like you were wrong in your assumptions of how space works then I'll be in a better position than you, and that's what really matters.

With all due respect, or lack thereof, a brown dwarf would have immense gravitational pull not only to our planet but to other planets as well. THAT IS physics...period, no getting around that, sonny. I do notice that you really don't answer any obvious questions, just throw out the willy nilly and anyone who differs are in the wrong. You are a conspiracy theorist that have no evidence to back up your claims. You want us to disprove something that's not there to begin with....SERIOUSLY?????
Yes, Virginia....there are amateur scopes that would pick up something that massive in our solar system....it doesn't have a cloaking device.
Dude....go live in the hills and do your fear mongering with the likes of other conspiracy theorists, you can stroke each others ego's and tell one another about all the dumbasses that aren't believers.

I understand that a brown dwarf would have a large gravitational pull. I never said it wouldn't, yes, it is physics... good for you. It is these physics that could be passing near our planet and causing a few problems. Just like I've been saying the whole time.

Okay, you're right. Nothing is gonna happen. The fact that several ancient civilizations, that knew nothing of each other, thought this event was important enough to jot down in their records is purely coincidence. It must be, there's no other explanation.

If it comes down to physics, and it's passing near our planet causing earthquakes in Japan and volcanoes erupting....wouldn't it have a big effect on our tides? Hmmm? That would be the easiest event to move with gravity, no?

 

[beachfrogg]

On March 10th 2006 NASA issued a solar storm warning for 2012 but omitted telling the general population as to why the warning in their report. Then in June of 2010, NASA once again warns the world population, but this time around, NASA warns the world community to get ready for a once in a life time solar storm. Dr Richard Fisher, head of NASA’s Heliophysics Division said: “We know it’s coming but we don’t know how bad it’s going to be.” However, “the next solar maximum should be a doozy” . NASA say’s the sun storm will be in full swing around 2012-2013, however the National Academy of Science says, “The solar storm could start any day now.” “Who ever is right, the storm is coming!” says NASA.
What NASA did not tell you is that our sun is entering into an interstellar energy cloud which is also turbulent which will cause the sun’s solar maximum in 2012 to become violent

THE TRUTH BEHIND THE SCENES | ACTUAL AND REVEALING NEWS, SCIENCE, TECH, SPACE, ANCIENT CIVILIZATIONS, HISTORY, MYSTERIES, SECRETS, UFO AND EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE

From your NASA source:

Solar Storm Warning

03.15.06

Researchers say a storm is coming--the most intense solar maximum in fifty years.

It's official: Solar minimum has arrived. Sunspots have all but vanished. Solar flares are nonexistent. The sun is utterly quiet.

Like the quiet before a storm.

Recently researchers announced that a storm is coming--the most intense solar maximum in fifty years. The prediction comes from a team led by Mausumi Dikpati of the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR). "The next sunspot cycle will be 30% to 50% stronger than the previous one," she says. If correct, the years ahead could produce a burst of solar activity second only to the historic Solar Max of 1958.
Dikpati's prediction is unprecedented. In nearly-two centuries since the 11-year sunspot cycle was discovered, scientists have struggled to predict the size of future maxima--and failed. Solar maxima can be intense, as in 1958, or barely detectable, as in 1805, obeying no obvious pattern.
"History shows that big sunspot cycles 'ramp up' faster than small ones," he says. "I expect to see the first sunspots of the next cycle appear in late 2006 or 2007--and Solar Max to be underway by 2010 or 2011."

Who's right? Time will tell. Either way, a storm is coming.
NASA - Solar Storm Warning

The time line seems to be off already...so who knows? If it does happen we will get some good northern light sightings. NASA omitted nothing....they stated it's from the solar cycles that create the events.

No where did NASA say this is a "Once in a life time event". The article clearly stated "in the last 50 years" But, YOUR fearmongering site of thetruthbehindthescenes.wordpress.com just projects their own beliefs and uses half truths from the NASA site to validate what they write.
Dude....don't you vet or question anything you read? Sheesh

Yea sorry about that it was those crazy NASA loonies
What with their white lab coats, teslas’ coils, crazy hair and telescopes
Stupid NASA scaring everyone

NASA UPGRADES 2012 SOLAR STORM WARNING - LEARN HOW TO PREPARE
or
NASA UPGRADES 2012 SOLAR STORM WARNING - LEARN HOW TO PREPARE
or
As the Sun Awakens, NASA Keeps a Wary Eye on Space Weather - NASA Science
Sheesh[/QUOTE]

 

[Meister]

On March 10th 2006 NASA issued a solar storm warning for 2012 but omitted telling the general population as to why the warning in their report. Then in June of 2010, NASA once again warns the world population, but this time around, NASA warns the world community to get ready for a once in a life time solar storm. Dr Richard Fisher, head of NASA’s Heliophysics Division said: “We know it’s coming but we don’t know how bad it’s going to be.” However, “the next solar maximum should be a doozy” . NASA say’s the sun storm will be in full swing around 2012-2013, however the National Academy of Science says, “The solar storm could start any day now.” “Who ever is right, the storm is coming!” says NASA.
What NASA did not tell you is that our sun is entering into an interstellar energy cloud which is also turbulent which will cause the sun’s solar maximum in 2012 to become violent

THE TRUTH BEHIND THE SCENES | ACTUAL AND REVEALING NEWS, SCIENCE, TECH, SPACE, ANCIENT CIVILIZATIONS, HISTORY, MYSTERIES, SECRETS, UFO AND EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE

From your NASA source:

Solar Storm Warning

03.15.06

Researchers say a storm is coming--the most intense solar maximum in fifty years.

It's official: Solar minimum has arrived. Sunspots have all but vanished. Solar flares are nonexistent. The sun is utterly quiet.

Like the quiet before a storm.

Recently researchers announced that a storm is coming--the most intense solar maximum in fifty years. The prediction comes from a team led by Mausumi Dikpati of the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR). "The next sunspot cycle will be 30% to 50% stronger than the previous one," she says. If correct, the years ahead could produce a burst of solar activity second only to the historic Solar Max of 1958.
Dikpati's prediction is unprecedented. In nearly-two centuries since the 11-year sunspot cycle was discovered, scientists have struggled to predict the size of future maxima--and failed. Solar maxima can be intense, as in 1958, or barely detectable, as in 1805, obeying no obvious pattern.
"History shows that big sunspot cycles 'ramp up' faster than small ones," he says. "I expect to see the first sunspots of the next cycle appear in late 2006 or 2007--and Solar Max to be underway by 2010 or 2011."

Who's right? Time will tell. Either way, a storm is coming.
NASA - Solar Storm Warning

The time line seems to be off already...so who knows? If it does happen we will get some good northern light sightings. NASA omitted nothing....they stated it's from the solar cycles that create the events.

No where did NASA say this is a "Once in a life time event". The article clearly stated "in the last 50 years" But, YOUR fearmongering site of thetruthbehindthescenes.wordpress.com just projects their own beliefs and uses half truths from the NASA site to validate what they write.
Dude....don't you vet or question anything you read? Sheesh

Yea sorry about that it was those crazy NASA loonies
What with their white lab coats, teslas’ coils, crazy hair and telescopes
Stupid NASA scaring everyone

NASA UPGRADES 2012 SOLAR STORM WARNING - LEARN HOW TO PREPARE
or
NASA UPGRADES 2012 SOLAR STORM WARNING - LEARN HOW TO PREPARE
or
As the Sun Awakens, NASA Keeps a Wary Eye on Space Weather - NASA Science
Sheesh

[/QUOTE]

Dude....those first 2 sites were your fear mongering sites, not NASA sites. The NASA site is talking about how to prepare to shut down satellites. Our technology is at risk...that's a no brainer. I think the only thing I can say at this point is carry on what you are doing......but your not helping your cause.

 

[duckwings]

any astronomer who would do such a thing would be kidnapped by FEMA, brought to Area 51, and tortured, along with the passengers on Flight 77 and Flight 93.

Ugh, oh my lord! really guys!?.. i cant help but laugh.. really elvis? how old are you? really..i mean come on..Here you guys are saying, "excuse me, have you *read* the posts?!?" and if you guys would have, then you would have seen where i stated my matter on this subject... I DONT CARE EITHER WAY!!!!.. this topic just interests me, plain and simple, but i can’t stand reading smartass remarks, and yes "Meister" that’s EXACTLY what you are.. There are certain ways to go about things. Certain mature ways. Yes, it’s a topic that sounds straight from a sci-fi novel, and its being discussed on here in a real life scenario, so therefore it IS going to sound incredibly crazy-stupid, that’s a given. Any sane normal person can see that, so we don’t need you swooping in here saying you’re wrong, You guys are dumb, making smart ass remarks and trying to make people feel like dumbasses. It’s just uncalled for. You continue posting comments in a forum where you clearly and obviously stated your opinion several hundred times, so why not let the others who are interested in it, continue the discussion like this forum was made for, and butt out? I mean have you read the title of this forum?? I dont see "THE DEBATE ON The Planet X/Nibiru/ELEnin Brown Dwarf Timeline" as the title of this forum...so ask your questions elsewhere.

I noticed you didn't answer my questions...why? No answers? Look who really is the dumbass, duckie. Until your conspiracy nuts start answering obvious questions...your going to get smartass remarks. You deserve no better, dumbass.

Oh, I’m sorry, forgive me prick, but i guess i can go ahead with the answers to your 2 dumbass questions:

1) I don’t know
2) I DONT KNOW

I never claimed to be knowledgeable in this subject matter, JUST INTERESTED. I clearly stated above that i DONT CARE EITHER WAY, jeez, is it that hard to understand??? So therefore, why ask me questions that i don’t know the answers to and i don’t really care about? To save time and trouble for you and me both, don’t bother asking me questions again, because i will not answer. Simple. Leave your smartass questions to "my conspiracy nuts."

Now i will speak my opinions here and there, and as for this whole solar sun warning, i do agree with you that they happen in cycles and they have happened in our past, its documented and obvious, BUT we didn’t have as much technological advancements as we do today, so therefore, they ARE going to affect us more now, than ever before. That’s a given. Nothing REAL life threatening though.

Another thing that has scientist more concerned now is Earth’s magnetic field is weakening due to a possible slow reversal taking place. Earths Magnetic field is about 10% weaker now than it was 100 years ago. 10% is 10%. Also according to a NASA article a giant breach in Earth's magnetic field was discovered.. Here is the article:


(still cant post links)

h t t p : / / s c i e n c e . n a s a . g o v / s c i e n c e - n e w s / s c i e n c e - a t - n a s a / 2 0 0 8 / 1 6 d e c _ g i a n t b r e a c h /

(no spaces)

NASA's five THEMIS spacecraft have discovered a breach in Earth's magnetic field ten times larger than anything previously thought to exist. Solar wind can flow in through the opening to "load up" the magnetosphere for powerful geomagnetic storms. But the breach itself is not the biggest surprise. Researchers are even more amazed at the strange and unexpected way it forms, overturning long-held ideas of space physics.

"At first I didn't believe it," says THEMIS project scientist David Sibeck of the Goddard Space Flight Center. "This finding fundamentally alters our understanding of the solar wind-magnetosphere interaction."

The magnetosphere is a bubble of magnetism that surrounds Earth and protects us from solar wind. Exploring the bubble is a key goal of the THEMIS mission, launched in February 2007. The big discovery came on June 3, 2007, when the five probes serendipitously flew through the breach just as it was opening. Onboard sensors recorded a torrent of solar wind particles streaming into the magnetosphere, signaling an event of unexpected size and importance.

"The opening was huge—four times wider than Earth itself," says Wenhui Li, a space physicist at the University of New Hampshire who has been analyzing the data. Li's colleague Jimmy Raeder, also of New Hampshire, says "1027 particles per second were flowing into the magnetosphere—that's a 1 followed by 27 zeros. This kind of influx is an order of magnitude greater than what we thought was possible."

The event began with little warning when a gentle gust of solar wind delivered a bundle of magnetic fields from the Sun to Earth. Like an octopus wrapping its tentacles around a big clam, solar magnetic fields draped themselves around the magnetosphere and cracked it open. The cracking was accomplished by means of a process called "magnetic reconnection." High above Earth's poles, solar and terrestrial magnetic fields linked up (reconnected) to form conduits for solar wind. Conduits over the Arctic and Antarctic quickly expanded; within minutes they overlapped over Earth's equator to create the biggest magnetic breach ever recorded by Earth-orbiting spacecraft.

The size of the breach took researchers by surprise. "We've seen things like this before," says Raeder, "but never on such a large scale. The entire day-side of the magnetosphere was open to the solar wind."

The circumstances were even more surprising. Space physicists have long believed that holes in Earth's magnetosphere open only in response to solar magnetic fields that point south. The great breach of June 2007, however, opened in response to a solar magnetic field that pointed north.

"To the lay person, this may sound like a quibble, but to a space physicist, it is almost seismic," says Sibeck. "When I tell my colleagues, most react with skepticism, as if I'm trying to convince them that the sun rises in the west."

Here is why they can't believe their ears: The solar wind presses against Earth's magnetosphere almost directly above the equator where our planet's magnetic field points north. Suppose a bundle of solar magnetism comes along, and it points north, too. The two fields should reinforce one another, strengthening Earth's magnetic defenses and slamming the door shut on the solar wind. In the language of space physics, a north-pointing solar magnetic field is called a "northern IMF" and it is synonymous with shields up!
"So, you can imagine our surprise when a northern IMF came along and shields went down instead," says Sibeck. "This completely overturns our understanding of things."

Northern IMF events don't actually trigger geomagnetic storms, notes Raeder, but they do set the stage for storms by loading the magnetosphere with plasma. A loaded magnetosphere is primed for auroras, power outages, and other disturbances that can result when, say, a CME (coronal mass ejection) hits.

The years ahead could be especially lively. Raeder explains: "We're entering Solar Cycle 24. For reasons not fully understood, CMEs in even-numbered solar cycles (like 24) tend to hit Earth with a leading edge that is magnetized north. Such a CME should open a breach and load the magnetosphere with plasma just before the storm gets underway. It's the perfect sequence for a really big event."

Sibeck agrees. "This could result in stronger geomagnetic storms than we have seen in many years."

 

[Cootaloot]

Duckwings stop bitching.

 

[Meister]

Ugh, oh my lord! really guys!?.. i cant help but laugh.. really elvis? how old are you? really..i mean come on..Here you guys are saying, "excuse me, have you *read* the posts?!?" and if you guys would have, then you would have seen where i stated my matter on this subject... I DONT CARE EITHER WAY!!!!.. this topic just interests me, plain and simple, but i can’t stand reading smartass remarks, and yes "Meister" that’s EXACTLY what you are.. There are certain ways to go about things. Certain mature ways. Yes, it’s a topic that sounds straight from a sci-fi novel, and its being discussed on here in a real life scenario, so therefore it IS going to sound incredibly crazy-stupid, that’s a given. Any sane normal person can see that, so we don’t need you swooping in here saying you’re wrong, You guys are dumb, making smart ass remarks and trying to make people feel like dumbasses. It’s just uncalled for. You continue posting comments in a forum where you clearly and obviously stated your opinion several hundred times, so why not let the others who are interested in it, continue the discussion like this forum was made for, and butt out? I mean have you read the title of this forum?? I dont see "THE DEBATE ON The Planet X/Nibiru/ELEnin Brown Dwarf Timeline" as the title of this forum...so ask your questions elsewhere.

I noticed you didn't answer my questions...why? No answers? Look who really is the dumbass, duckie. Until your conspiracy nuts start answering obvious questions...your going to get smartass remarks. You deserve no better, dumbass.

Oh, I’m sorry, forgive me prick, but i guess i can go ahead with the answers to your 2 dumbass questions:

1) I don’t know
2) I DONT KNOW

I never claimed to be knowledgeable in this subject matter, JUST INTERESTED. I clearly stated above that i DONT CARE EITHER WAY, jeez, is it that hard to understand??? So therefore, why ask me questions that i don’t know the answers to and i don’t really care about? To save time and trouble for you and me both, don’t bother asking me questions again, because i will not answer. Simple. Leave your smartass questions to "my conspiracy nuts."

Now i will speak my opinions here and there, and as for this whole solar sun warning, i do agree with you that they happen in cycles and they have happened in our past, its documented and obvious, BUT we didn’t have as much technological advancements as we do today, so therefore, they ARE going to affect us more now, than ever before. That’s a given. Nothing REAL life threatening though.

Another thing that has scientist more concerned now is Earth’s magnetic field is weakening due to a possible slow reversal taking place. Earths Magnetic field is about 10% weaker now than it was 100 years ago. 10% is 10%. Also according to a NASA article a giant breach in Earth's magnetic field was discovered.. Here is the article:


(still cant post links)

h t t p : / / s c i e n c e . n a s a . g o v / s c i e n c e - n e w s / s c i e n c e - a t - n a s a / 2 0 0 8 / 1 6 d e c _ g i a n t b r e a c h /

(no spaces)

NASA's five THEMIS spacecraft have discovered a breach in Earth's magnetic field ten times larger than anything previously thought to exist. Solar wind can flow in through the opening to "load up" the magnetosphere for powerful geomagnetic storms. But the breach itself is not the biggest surprise. Researchers are even more amazed at the strange and unexpected way it forms, overturning long-held ideas of space physics.

"At first I didn't believe it," says THEMIS project scientist David Sibeck of the Goddard Space Flight Center. "This finding fundamentally alters our understanding of the solar wind-magnetosphere interaction."

The magnetosphere is a bubble of magnetism that surrounds Earth and protects us from solar wind. Exploring the bubble is a key goal of the THEMIS mission, launched in February 2007. The big discovery came on June 3, 2007, when the five probes serendipitously flew through the breach just as it was opening. Onboard sensors recorded a torrent of solar wind particles streaming into the magnetosphere, signaling an event of unexpected size and importance.

"The opening was huge—four times wider than Earth itself," says Wenhui Li, a space physicist at the University of New Hampshire who has been analyzing the data. Li's colleague Jimmy Raeder, also of New Hampshire, says "1027 particles per second were flowing into the magnetosphere—that's a 1 followed by 27 zeros. This kind of influx is an order of magnitude greater than what we thought was possible."

The event began with little warning when a gentle gust of solar wind delivered a bundle of magnetic fields from the Sun to Earth. Like an octopus wrapping its tentacles around a big clam, solar magnetic fields draped themselves around the magnetosphere and cracked it open. The cracking was accomplished by means of a process called "magnetic reconnection." High above Earth's poles, solar and terrestrial magnetic fields linked up (reconnected) to form conduits for solar wind. Conduits over the Arctic and Antarctic quickly expanded; within minutes they overlapped over Earth's equator to create the biggest magnetic breach ever recorded by Earth-orbiting spacecraft.

The size of the breach took researchers by surprise. "We've seen things like this before," says Raeder, "but never on such a large scale. The entire day-side of the magnetosphere was open to the solar wind."

The circumstances were even more surprising. Space physicists have long believed that holes in Earth's magnetosphere open only in response to solar magnetic fields that point south. The great breach of June 2007, however, opened in response to a solar magnetic field that pointed north.

"To the lay person, this may sound like a quibble, but to a space physicist, it is almost seismic," says Sibeck. "When I tell my colleagues, most react with skepticism, as if I'm trying to convince them that the sun rises in the west."

Here is why they can't believe their ears: The solar wind presses against Earth's magnetosphere almost directly above the equator where our planet's magnetic field points north. Suppose a bundle of solar magnetism comes along, and it points north, too. The two fields should reinforce one another, strengthening Earth's magnetic defenses and slamming the door shut on the solar wind. In the language of space physics, a north-pointing solar magnetic field is called a "northern IMF" and it is synonymous with shields up!
"So, you can imagine our surprise when a northern IMF came along and shields went down instead," says Sibeck. "This completely overturns our understanding of things."

Northern IMF events don't actually trigger geomagnetic storms, notes Raeder, but they do set the stage for storms by loading the magnetosphere with plasma. A loaded magnetosphere is primed for auroras, power outages, and other disturbances that can result when, say, a CME (coronal mass ejection) hits.

The years ahead could be especially lively. Raeder explains: "We're entering Solar Cycle 24. For reasons not fully understood, CMEs in even-numbered solar cycles (like 24) tend to hit Earth with a leading edge that is magnetized north. Such a CME should open a breach and load the magnetosphere with plasma just before the storm gets underway. It's the perfect sequence for a really big event."

Sibeck agrees. "This could result in stronger geomagnetic storms than we have seen in many years."

That's what I thought....YOU DON"T KNOW!!!!!

 

[Cootaloot]

Oh know there was a 6.3 earthquake today must mean that the brown dwarf is getting closer has to be that bc that is the only reason we are seeing so meny an the government is hiding it with a cloaking device so we cant see it comeing that has to be it..what eles could it be.

 

[Super 33]

That's what I thought....YOU DON"T KNOW!!!!!

DO YOU KNOW???

You cannot tell me that whatever might be approaching WOULD BE VISIBLE because..... YOU DON'T KNOW!! You can't prove it, just as much as some of what we say can't be proven, only speculated. Can you explain to me how it is that you know everything about the solar system and why everything is the way it is? Can you tell me what a brown dwarf star is made of? You can't, nobody can because all us as humans can do is speculate. What can be proven is the science fact that you seem to avoid, like why almost ALL of the civilizations of around 3600 years ago speak of the "destroyer" or a passing dragon in the sky, or a blue star, or destructive events, massive flooding all around the same time periods, and so on. All you've been doing is attempting to disprove what we never claim to be facts. Yet, you never seem to back up why it isn't happening with any facts of your own. You keep bringing up tides. There is flooding around the entire freakin world! Haven't you noticed? Is it from planet X? I have no idea, honestly I don't think it is. What is happening to the dead sea? Why are volcanoes erupting around the planet? EVERYWHERE!! Why is happening to our magnetic field? Why is there a large hole expanding in it? Can you answer that and supply us with some proof of your answers? Can you explain these mass animal deaths? Why are there so many damn earthquakes in 2011 alone??? What is the deal with the Sun? Why are astronomers all of a sudden saying that betelgeuse, the super nova could explode and cause a second sun to appear?? That star has a life span of billions of years and they're gonna narrow down the time of it's demise to NOW? What a coincidence, right when we're expecting to see a second sun from this approaching star, "don't panic everybody it's just an exploding super nova we told you so!" I'm awaiting your answers explaining these things to us. You have all the answers, please share them. Instead of bashing our THEORIES and pointing out the weaknesses (which EVERY THEORY HAS WEAKNESSES) why not explaining that which we're all trying to explain. And quit being a god damn PRICK.

By the way, why not just shut us all up and prove to us that there is NOT something entering our inner solar system? Why are you beating around the bush? Why don't you explain to us how the recent activities of the Earth, Sun and other planets are not symptoms of a large gravitational, electromagnetic mass getting closer to us. I hope you can answer these questions because I can't. All I can do is speculate. I know know it all and I'm sure you don't either.

 

[Meister]

That's what I thought....YOU DON"T KNOW!!!!!

DO YOU KNOW???

You cannot tell me that whatever might be approaching WOULD BE VISIBLE because..... YOU DON'T KNOW!! You can't prove it, just as much as some of what we say can't be proven, only speculated. Can you explain to me how it is that you know everything about the solar system and why everything is the way it is? Can you tell me what a brown dwarf star is made of? You can't, nobody can because all us as humans can do is speculate. What can be proven is the science fact that you seem to avoid, like why almost ALL of the civilizations of around 3600 years ago speak of the "destroyer" or a passing dragon in the sky, or a blue star, or destructive events, massive flooding all around the same time periods, and so on. All you've been doing is attempting to disprove what we never claim to be facts. Yet, you never seem to back up why it isn't happening with any facts of your own. You keep bringing up tides. There is flooding around the entire freakin world! Haven't you noticed? Is it from planet X? I have no idea, honestly I don't think it is. What is happening to the dead sea? Why are volcanoes erupting around the planet? EVERYWHERE!! Why is happening to our magnetic field? Why is there a large hole expanding in it? Can you answer that and supply us with some proof of your answers? Can you explain these mass animal deaths? Why are there so many damn earthquakes in 2011 alone??? What is the deal with the Sun? Why are astronomers all of a sudden saying that betelgeuse, the super nova could explode and cause a second sun to appear?? That star has a life span of billions of years and they're gonna narrow down the time of it's demise to NOW? What a coincidence, right when we're expecting to see a second sun from this approaching star, "don't panic everybody it's just an exploding super nova we told you so!" I'm awaiting your answers explaining these things to us. You have all the answers, please share them. Instead of bashing our THEORIES and pointing out the weaknesses (which EVERY THEORY HAS WEAKNESSES) why not explaining that which we're all trying to explain. And quit being a god damn PRICK.

By the way, why not just shut us all up and prove to us that there is NOT something entering our inner solar system? Why are you beating around the bush? Why don't you explain to us how the recent activities of the Earth, Sun and other planets are not symptoms of a large gravitational, electromagnetic mass getting closer to us. I hope you can answer these questions because I can't. All I can do is speculate. I know know it all and I'm sure you don't either.

I have to prove that something IS NOT THERE??? You conspiracy nuts try and prove something is there, and fail, then come back and say I have to prove it's not there. That is just too damn hilarious.
Floods isn't tides, moron. We're talking physics, and tides would be a major player in all of this, and it ain't happening....this isn't a magic trick.
What people wrote 3,600 years ago isn't magic either. They didn't have a crystal ball, and the translation of what they documented may be wrong....but let's not let that part get in the way of a good conspiracy, huh?

Your speculations are from Morons 101...I give you an A for your effort.

 

[duckwings]

You know, its pretty sad when this WAS one of my favorite sites to come to and read up on one of my favorite conspiracy theories, and i no longer enjoy it because of one of the site moderators giving me hell and a couple of other followers. I mean its funny, back on page 102 i had ya'lls back on a post i made.

well, peace out guys.. I'm not sticking around here any longer. Maybe ill find the other users in a new hassle free conspiracy theory forum.

 

[Super 33]

That's what I thought....YOU DON"T KNOW!!!!!

DO YOU KNOW???

You cannot tell me that whatever might be approaching WOULD BE VISIBLE because..... YOU DON'T KNOW!! You can't prove it, just as much as some of what we say can't be proven, only speculated. Can you explain to me how it is that you know everything about the solar system and why everything is the way it is? Can you tell me what a brown dwarf star is made of? You can't, nobody can because all us as humans can do is speculate. What can be proven is the science fact that you seem to avoid, like why almost ALL of the civilizations of around 3600 years ago speak of the "destroyer" or a passing dragon in the sky, or a blue star, or destructive events, massive flooding all around the same time periods, and so on. All you've been doing is attempting to disprove what we never claim to be facts. Yet, you never seem to back up why it isn't happening with any facts of your own. You keep bringing up tides. There is flooding around the entire freakin world! Haven't you noticed? Is it from planet X? I have no idea, honestly I don't think it is. What is happening to the dead sea? Why are volcanoes erupting around the planet? EVERYWHERE!! Why is happening to our magnetic field? Why is there a large hole expanding in it? Can you answer that and supply us with some proof of your answers? Can you explain these mass animal deaths? Why are there so many damn earthquakes in 2011 alone??? What is the deal with the Sun? Why are astronomers all of a sudden saying that betelgeuse, the super nova could explode and cause a second sun to appear?? That star has a life span of billions of years and they're gonna narrow down the time of it's demise to NOW? What a coincidence, right when we're expecting to see a second sun from this approaching star, "don't panic everybody it's just an exploding super nova we told you so!" I'm awaiting your answers explaining these things to us. You have all the answers, please share them. Instead of bashing our THEORIES and pointing out the weaknesses (which EVERY THEORY HAS WEAKNESSES) why not explaining that which we're all trying to explain. And quit being a god damn PRICK.

By the way, why not just shut us all up and prove to us that there is NOT something entering our inner solar system? Why are you beating around the bush? Why don't you explain to us how the recent activities of the Earth, Sun and other planets are not symptoms of a large gravitational, electromagnetic mass getting closer to us. I hope you can answer these questions because I can't. All I can do is speculate. I know know it all and I'm sure you don't either.

I have to prove that something IS NOT THERE??? You conspiracy nuts try and prove something is there, and fail, then come back and say I have to prove it's not there. That is just too damn hilarious.
Floods isn't tides, moron. We're talking physics, and tides would be a major player in all of this, and it ain't happening....this isn't a magic trick.
What people wrote 3,600 years ago isn't magic either. They didn't have a crystal ball, and the translation of what they documented may be wrong....but let's not let that part get in the way of a good conspiracy, huh?

Your speculations are from Morons 101...I give you an A for your effort.

Thanks for the A.

I give you an A for not answering a single question that was asked to you. Other than the writings from 3600 years ago was misinterpreted by the scientists that you have so much faith in.

It doesn't take a crystal ball or a magic trick to determine where the Earth will be next year, or even in 3600 years. Within that logic lies the answer to "when will Planet X make it's next pass." I know you love physics, that's exactly what it is.

Here's where I'm coming from. There are so many things adding up to the POSSIBILITY that there is in fact a brown dwarf star (or something like it) approaching. The idea comes from so many civilizations from the past, the symptoms of today and the past several years seems to back that up. Now, what I do is speculate (there's that word again). Does that mean I'm scared? No, it doesn't, I never said I was scared of death or of being witness to one of the greater disasters life has to offer. Does that mean I'm convinced that this is gonna happen? No, I'm not convinced. I find no harm in going to a message board and trying to educate myself on what's been happening around the world and form my own opinion. My opinion is that this event COULD be true. You're criticizing me and those on my side of the fence because of our opinions and what we believe COULD be true. Yet, here you are, being a hypocrite and telling us what IS and that is IS NOT true. I don't believe it is us that has to come up with proof to back up our theories. I believe it is YOU who has to come up with proof to back up what you say is fact. So, yes, I ask you to prove to me that this brown dwarf or whatever it may be is not there. If you can't do that, then why not NOT POST in this thread and leave us doom and gloomers alone? What's it matter to you anyway? This is not a difficult thing to understand, you being so smart should have understood this before your first post in this thread.