Zone1 The Personality of Moshiach?

Will the Real Moshiach ben David, be involved in Eventual Universal Salvation?

  • No, "many are called but few chosen" [Jesus].

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  • Yes, "all Israel shall be saved." [Paul]

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  • Maybe, it sure would be nice if all of us can Eventually be Saved?!

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DennisPTate

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Here is a quotation from a Jewish website, that a significant percentage of Jewish thinkers have probably never read before?

The reason as to why a high percentage of Jewish scholars don't want to get into this should be pretty obvious.

Has Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, Moshiach ben David, actually set in motion "Eventual Universal Salvation" but do his own modern disciples and students have almost no idea about this concept?



As a faithful shepherd he already cares so much about his people that he volunteered to suffer all kinds of agonies to assure that not a single Jew of all times will be lost.20



In Romans chapter nine, ten and eleven the Apostle Paul got into some pretty controversial ideas that can perhaps be understood to relate to Eventual Universal Salvation?


I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,

2;That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.

3;For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

4;Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

5;Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.



Was the Apostle Paul perhaps wondering about himself as some sort of modern, [from his perspective anyway], allegorical "goat for Azazel?"


The Lord spoke to Moses, after the death of the two sons of Aaron, when they drew near before the Lord and died; 2;and the Lord said to Moses, “Tell Aaron your brother not to come at all times into the holy place within the veil, before the mercy seat which is upon the ark, lest he die; for I will appear in the cloud upon the mercy seat. 3;But thus shall Aaron come into the holy place: with a young bull for a sin offering and a ram for a burnt offering. 4;He shall put on the holy linen coat, and shall have the linen breeches on his body, be girded with the linen girdle, and wear the linen turban; these are the holy garments. He shall bathe his body in water, and then put them on. 5;And he shall take from the congregation of the people of Israel two male goats for a sin offering, and one ram for a burnt offering.

6;“And Aaron shall offer the bull as a sin offering for himself, and shall make atonement for himself and for his house. 7;Then he shall take the two goats, and set them before the Lord at the door of the tent of meeting; 8;and Aaron shall cast lots upon the two goats, one lot for the Lord and the other lot for Aza′zel. 9;And Aaron shall present the goat on which the lot fell for the Lord, and offer it as a sin offering; 10;but the goat on which the lot fell for Aza′zel shall be presented alive before the Lord to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Aza′zel.
[Leviticus 16 RSV]

 
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No. It is self salvation.

The whole of the Bible is to lead us to the realization that the only judge fit to judge us, is us, and that we create heaven and hell as we judge all things.

Actually....
there is no possible way that I could rule out the theory that the "Being of Light of near death experience fame" MIGHT perhaps be the oldest spark in you....... or in me...... that was given to us by our Creator..... much as YHWH breathed life into Adam..... and later into Eve, [I think]?!

Near death experiencer Gary Plumley asked to meet "himself" and his request was granted..........

Gary Plumley had had ten near death experiences when I corresponded with him about ten or fifteen years go while I was still living in Nova Scotia. I introduced him to my online friend Johnny BlueStar.

Here is one of Johnny's books that I did read a decade or so ago.



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Johnny BlueStar and I connected over the fascinating case of Ms. Barbro Karlen, as well of course over near death experience accounts.



Anne Frank | Barbro Karlen Full​


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Barbro Karlen shares memories from her childhood of being Anne Frank in a past life. Like Anne, Barbro was a child prodigy writer. in adulthood, to overcome her phobia of uniforms and to work with horses, Barbro served as a mounted police woman for the Swedish national police force. Anne Frank was persecuted as a Jew, whereas Barbro was born into a Christian family showing that religion can change from lifetime to lifetime. If the Nazis knew one could be born Jewish in one lifetime and Christian in another, the Holocaust could not have happended. Similarly, evidence of reincarnation can help quell violence we now witness in the Middle East.


It is quite a privilege for a red neck from the back woods of Nova Scotia, Canada to have published authors and doctors as online friends. By creating a Facebook group about near death experience accounts I got to meet many published authors over the years.


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if all of us can Eventually be Saved?!
Dennis, are you using all as everybody, or all of us, meaning you hope you will eventually be saved too?

Do you believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God, that died for your sins, and gave you His perfect record in place of your sins to enter Heaven? Do you repent of your sin, and turn away from evil? Because if you do, then your name is written in God's Book of Life. Your lodging there is being prepared for you, and your place at God's table is reserved.
 
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Dennis, are you using all as everybody, or all of us, meaning you hope you will eventually be saved too?

Do you believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God, that died for your sins, and gave you His perfect record in place of your sins to enter Heaven? Do you repent of your sin, and turn away from evil? Because if you do, then your name is written in God's Book of Life. Your lodging there is being prepared for you, and your place at God's table is reserved.

YES, my questions do include myself, and my older brother and my dad and my grandfather who were not openly religious and almost never went to church, [unless there was a funeral for a friend].

Yes, I have repented and given my life over to Messiah the Passover Lamb, Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, and I am attempting to serve Him as best as I can. All of the strange questions that I ask here, I asked them because I felt that I was supposed to ask these questions.
 
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