The Palestinians don't want peace, they want capitulation

[rylah]

. As proof, you might show me even one time in history, prior to zionism where any of our well respected rabbis even suggested taking land by force.

I have asked you and others this several times. Only the crickets have answered and I know why.

Already answered it.
There was a banned poster who used to repeat this same question, phrased EXACTLY the same...

How about Moses Our Rabbi, is he respected enough?
Maimonides, Nahmonides....Josef Babed, Halel Ben-Elyakim

 

[abi]

Any rabbi during our diaspora is fine.

 

[rylah]

Any rabbi during our diaspora is fine.

post # 41

But then again, do You really need a rabbi to tell You that when Pogroms occur one MUST defend him/her self and those around them?

Arab pogroms started before Zionism.

 

[abi]

Any rabbi during our diaspora is fine.

post # 41

I cannot search through everything they said. Please quote them and provide a legitimate source.

Thanks.

 

[TheOldSchool]

I know, right?! Wanting your state on your own historical homeland! The Horror! The Nerve!

You better hope the Christians don't ever want to make a state on their own historical homeland

Since when is Israel their historic homeland?
More like Africa and Rome.

Oh geez...

 

[rylah]

Any rabbi during our diaspora is fine.

post # 41

I cannot search through everything they said. Please quote them and provide a legitimate source.

Thanks.

Maybe later today...there's a ton of information

In the meantime do Your own research, basically it's a commandment to inherit and build the land. Read what Moses said to the tribe of Dan when they wanted to abandon their brothers during war (Bamidbar 32). It's especially relevant to You.

A single person can leave to save his soul, but when the community is threatened the govt is obliged to stand ground and not cave into threats.

 

[admonit]

90% of Israelis are not religious.

Where did you get this number?

 

[Indeependent]

The midrash...go look on the Niturai Karta site...they misquote it to make it look like we can't conquer the land.

Link, I know for fact that that is a lie.

God has made Israel so damn successful in so little time?

If you really think God created this horror, then I am convinced you know nothing of Judaism.

And 3000 years is "so little time?"

You're an ignoramous and a liar.
You have posted nothing to indicate you are anything but a Jew who is proud to eat bacon.

 

[Indeependent]

90% of Israelis are not religious.

Where did you get this number?

Israeli and Jewish publications and web sites.

 

[Indeependent]

I know, right?! Wanting your state on your own historical homeland! The Horror! The Nerve!

You better hope the Christians don't ever want to make a state on their own historical homeland

Since when is Israel their historic homeland?
More like Africa and Rome.

Oh geez...

Wow! A meme!
How can I compete?

 

[TheOldSchool]

I know, right?! Wanting your state on your own historical homeland! The Horror! The Nerve!

You better hope the Christians don't ever want to make a state on their own historical homeland

Since when is Israel their historic homeland?
More like Africa and Rome.

Oh geez...

Wow! A meme!
How can I compete?

^ doesn’t even know what a meme is

 

[Indeependent]

I know, right?! Wanting your state on your own historical homeland! The Horror! The Nerve!

You better hope the Christians don't ever want to make a state on their own historical homeland

Since when is Israel their historic homeland?
More like Africa and Rome.

Oh geez...

Wow! A meme!
How can I compete?

^ doesn’t even know what a meme is

^Knows nothing about the abject failure of the NT amongst Jews in 1st century Israel.

 

[mudwhistle]

Been a while since I stepped foot in the I/P forum, I've read the three strikes policy. So be nice.

With that out of the way...

Palestine is not interested in peace, just the capitulation of the Israelis. As Trump gets ready to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem, Mahmoud Abbas warns that this would "undermine any chance of restarting the peace talks." Well, let me tell you something, that concern is hollow. He doesn't care. Abbas' is no more interested in peace talks than North Korea is in stopping its nuclear weapons program.

Oh the irony.

Agreed. The only thing that resulted from peace talks is more terrorism.

 

[TheOldSchool]

You better hope the Christians don't ever want to make a state on their own historical homeland

Since when is Israel their historic homeland?
More like Africa and Rome.

Oh geez...

Wow! A meme!
How can I compete?

^ doesn’t even know what a meme is

^Knows nothing about the abject failure of the NT amongst Jews in 1st century Israel.

^ thinks Jesus was born in Africa

 

[Indeependent]

Since when is Israel their historic homeland?
More like Africa and Rome.

Oh geez...

Wow! A meme!
How can I compete?

^ doesn’t even know what a meme is

^Knows nothing about the abject failure of the NT amongst Jews in 1st century Israel.

^ thinks Jesus was born in Africa

^ Doesn't know anything at all concerning Tanach and why Saul had to go to Africa to spread his fertilizer.
Also probably doesn't know that it took almost 300 years for the Jesus thing to take off in a polytheistic society that wanted a religion with no rules.

 

[admonit]

90% of Israelis are not religious.

Where did you get this number?

Israeli and Jewish publications and web sites.

Well, this is one of them:

Of those 6.484 million Jews, the CBS reports that less than half (44%) of them consider themselves secular or non-religious.

Nearly one-third of Israeli Jews identify as religious (32%), while the remaining 24% say they are traditional.

How religious are Israelis?

 

[Indeependent]

90% of Israelis are not religious.

Where did you get this number?

Israeli and Jewish publications and web sites.

Well, this is one of them:

Of those 6.484 million Jews, the CBS reports that less than half (44%) of them consider themselves secular or non-religious.

Nearly one-third of Israeli Jews identify as religious (32%), while the remaining 24% say they are traditional.

How religious are Israelis?

Most of those who identify as religious are Sunday morning bagel with cream cheese religious. They don't observe Shabbos and it's nearly impossible to find kosher food in Tel Aviv and other cities.

 

[jillian]

I know, right?! Wanting your state on your own historical homeland! The Horror! The Nerve!

You better hope the Christians don't ever want to make a state on their own historical homeland

My friend, have you not heard of the Crusades?

Yeah. The pinnacle of religious madness.

Then you'll know that it was an attempt by Christians to make a state on their own historical homelands.

Anyhow, you're trying to impugn religion here, I on the other hand am speaking of Trump's decision to move the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, in recognition of the latter being the capitol of Israel, whilst noting the irony of the Palestinian president's concern for peace knowing full well that's not what he wants.

If you want to preach on the ills of religion, please make your way to the religion forum...

you don't think a discussion of religion is part of this issue?

 

[TheOldSchool]

Oh geez...

Wow! A meme!
How can I compete?

^ doesn’t even know what a meme is

^Knows nothing about the abject failure of the NT amongst Jews in 1st century Israel.

^ thinks Jesus was born in Africa

^ Doesn't know anything at all concerning Tanach and why Saul had to go to Africa to spread his fertilizer.
Also probably doesn't know that it took almost 300 years for the Jesus thing to take off in a polytheistic society that wanted a religion with no rules.

Christianity began in the land we call Israel. Why do you deny them their homeland like the Jews and polytheists did thousands of years ago?

 

[rylah]

Wow! A meme!
How can I compete?

^ doesn’t even know what a meme is

^Knows nothing about the abject failure of the NT amongst Jews in 1st century Israel.

^ thinks Jesus was born in Africa

^ Doesn't know anything at all concerning Tanach and why Saul had to go to Africa to spread his fertilizer.
Also probably doesn't know that it took almost 300 years for the Jesus thing to take off in a polytheistic society that wanted a religion with no rules.

Christianity began in the land we call Israel. Why do you deny them their homeland like the Jews and polytheists did thousands of years ago?

Original "Christians" were a small cult of Jews in Judea.
Christians already had their numerous attempts at removing Jews from the land.