The Palestinians don't want peace, they want capitulation

[Shusha]

I know, right?! Wanting your state on your own historical homeland! The Horror! The Nerve!

As explained multiple times, the zionists do not speak for the Jewish people. As proof, you might show me even one time in history, prior to zionism where any of our well respected rabbis even suggested taking land by force.

I have asked you and others this several times. Only the crickets have answered and I know why.

Next year in Jerusalem.

 

[Shusha]

abi,

So, do you think that the Catalans should be able to have a sovereign and independent nation in Catalonia? Or should they all move to Kenya?

 

[abi]

I guess instead or answering to TOS, you chose comparing apples with space ships.

You better hope the Christians don't ever want to make a state on their own historical homeland

 

[Votto]

Been a while since I stepped foot in the I/P forum, I've read the three strikes policy. So be nice.

With that out of the way...

Palestine is not interested in peace, just the capitulation of the Israelis. As Trump gets ready to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem, Mahmoud Abbas warns that this would "undermine any chance of restarting the peace talks." Well, let me tell you something, that concern is hollow. He doesn't care. Abbas' is no more interested in peace talks than North Korea is in stopping its nuclear weapons program.

Oh the irony.

I think it hilarious that anyone gives a damn about a bunch of people who have been at war with Israel since the first day of their existence.

Who the hell cares? They really won't consider peace this time? Really?

Dolts!

 

[Indeependent]

Been a while since I stepped foot in the I/P forum, I've read the three strikes policy. So be nice.

With that out of the way...

Palestine is not interested in peace, just the capitulation of the Israelis. As Trump gets ready to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem, Mahmoud Abbas warns that this would "undermine any chance of restarting the peace talks." Well, let me tell you something, that concern is hollow. He doesn't care. Abbas' is no more interested in peace talks than North Korea is in stopping its nuclear weapons program.

Oh the irony.

Both Israelis and Palestinians want capitulation. It’s a symptom of religious madness.

Israel wants to be left alone, Palestine wants them driven into the sea. One side is driven solely by religious zealotry, the other isn't. You can guess which ones I'm referring to.

Both sides are driven by religious zealotry. Just the other day, a daughter of a holocaust survivor was denied cotizenship in Israel because she couldn’t prove her father was Jewish instead of Christian.

Religious madness. They need to be left alone to hash it out, and the U.S. needs to stop sending both sides money.

90% of Israelis are not religious.
Try again.

 

[abi]

90% of Israelis are not religious.

Which debunks the 'Jewish State' and the 'homeland for the Jewish people' myth beautifully.

 

[rylah]

Herzl wanted Kenya in a large unpopulated area. Actually unpopulated, not the land without a people crapola. While the zionists would have had as much right to that land as Palestine, it still would have been the more prudent choice.

BS abi,

Hertzl wanted Eretz Israel, but the British suggested him Uganda as a temporary refuge for Jews in Europe who suffered from pogroms at the time. Just like Palestinian Jews.

He died soon after the proposition, and asked to be buried in Israel.
A day before his death, he told the Reverend William H. Hechler: "Greet Palestine for me. I gave my heart's blood for my people."

 

[abi]

Herzl wanted Kenya in a large unpopulated area. Actually unpopulated, not the land without a people crapola. While the zionists would have had as much right to that land as Palestine, it still would have been the more prudent choice.

BS abi,

Hertzl wanted Eretz Israel, but the British suggested him Uganda as a temporary refuge for Jews in Europe who suffered from pogroms at the time. Just like Palestinian Jews.

He died soon after the proposition, and asked to be buried in Israel.
A day before his death, he told the Reverend William H. Hechler: "Greet Palestine for me. I gave my heart's blood for my people."

 

[Boston1]

They don't want capitulation, they want it all, and they want every Israeli dead and thrown into the sea.

Seems to me like Israel would do well to segregate the combatants and decedents of combatants and collaborators and do exactly as the UN dictates, repatriate them to the nearest debarkation point.

 

[Shusha]

Why should the Jewish people be forced to move to a "safe place to flee" rather than having the same rights to a sovereign independent homeland like everyone else?

 

[rylah]

90% of Israelis are not religious.

Which debunks the 'Jewish State' and the 'homeland for the Jewish people' myth beautifully.

No it debunks Your "theocratic state" slogan.
You have a very totalitarian view on how people must behave, otherwise You threat us with WWIII.

 

[Indeependent]

90% of Israelis are not religious.

Which debunks the 'Jewish State' and the 'homeland for the Jewish people' myth beautifully.

Which makes non-religious Christians and Muslims?
Jews do not have to be observant to be Jewish.
That's something Jews are well aware of thanks to Hitler and Muslims.

 

[rylah]

Herzl wanted Kenya in a large unpopulated area. Actually unpopulated, not the land without a people crapola. While the zionists would have had as much right to that land as Palestine, it still would have been the more prudent choice.

BS abi,

Hertzl wanted Eretz Israel, but the British suggested him Uganda as a temporary refuge for Jews in Europe who suffered from pogroms at the time. Just like Palestinian Jews.

He died soon after the proposition, and asked to be buried in Israel.
A day before his death, he told the Reverend William H. Hechler: "Greet Palestine for me. I gave my heart's blood for my people."

Uganda Scheme - Wikipedia

 

[Indeependent]

Newsflash:

Israel is the Jewish state.

Newsflash:

Israel is the zionist state and the greatest danger to the Jewish people. As I have asked before, find me a well respected rabbi (or any rabbi) prior to zionism who even discussed using force to take land.

If they were published they would have been executed by the Christian authorities.
Are you that stupid?

 

[Indeependent]

I know, right?! Wanting your state on your own historical homeland! The Horror! The Nerve!

You better hope the Christians don't ever want to make a state on their own historical homeland

Since when is Israel their historic homeland?
More like Africa and Rome.

 

[abi]

If they were published they would have been executed by the Christian authorities.
Are you that stupid?

That is a cop-out and an ad hominen (useless) attack. Judaism never discussed taking land by force because it is not what Judaism teaches. It is the exact opposite.

 

[Indeependent]

If they were published they would have been executed by the Christian authorities.
Are you that stupid?

That is a cop-out and an ad hominen (useless) attack. Judaism never discussed taking land by force because it is not what Judaism teaches. It is the exact opposite.

You are incorrect as the midrash and Talmud discuss exactly that.
It all depends on the situation.
First of all, Joshua took Israel by force and when Jews have the ability to do so and the nations are exterminating us it's called for.

 

[abi]

You are incorrect as the midrash and Talmud discuss exactly that.
It all depends on the situation.
First of all, Joshua took Israel by force and when Jews have the ability to do so and the nations are exterminating us it's called for.

During our diaspora?

 

[Indeependent]

You are incorrect as the midrash and Talmud discuss exactly that.
It all depends on the situation.
First of all, Joshua took Israel by force and when Jews have the ability to do so and the nations are exterminating us it's called for.

During our diaspora?

The midrash...go look on the Niturai Karta site...they misquote it to make it look like we can't conquer the land.
But what do you want from them, they're also a bunch of lying know nothings like yourself.
And you know what's even more amusing?
You're so religious as you try to bring up stuff you don't know, but if you're so religious how come God has made Israel so damn successful in so little time?
India should be embarrassed by what Israel has achieved without stealing America's jobs..

 

[abi]

The midrash...go look on the Niturai Karta site...they misquote it to make it look like we can't conquer the land.

Link, I know for fact that that is a lie.

God has made Israel so damn successful in so little time?

If you really think God created this horror, then I am convinced you know nothing of Judaism.

And 3000 years is "so little time?"