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Has someone claimed that the virus didn't come from China? :confused-84:
Liberals were calling Trump racist for calling it the China flu. You TDS is affecting your memory.
Did anyone say it didn't originate in China?

Link, please.
News networks called it the China or Wuhan flu in the beginning. Then when Trump called it the same, it all a sudden became racist to call it that. You loons are crazy.
You are avoiding my question. Evidently you agree that no one claimed that it didn't come from China, and you lack the intellectual honesty to admit that.
Yes we know it came from China, we know it was made in a lab, and it needs to be investigated. But Biden is bought and paid for by China. So we will never know what happened. One thing I do know, you assholes bought race into it, where it never should have been. Got to bring up the race card about everything.
I'm glad you admit it.

You're certainly free to believe the other stuff.
Biden stopped the investigation and now has an something started an inquiry or something. Giving them 90 days. Lol, bought and paid for.
 

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SARS-CoV-2 can be transmitted by houseflies. Does this fact alter the reader’s perception regarding the lab-escape theory?
 

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The evidence shows it was manipulated in the wuhan lab. Fauci approved of funds to send to china. It's not a huge leap to say that the US and china shared the results from whatever they did to the virus.
 

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All this commotion in Washington about the origins of the Covid 19 pandemic should make people wonder if when people go to Washington does an integral part of their brain die is there something in the Washington DC water supply that impairs people thinking that use that water! Washington politicians are yelping for an answer, President Biden is charging American's intelligence services to investigate and render an opinion on what were the circumstances behind the origin and the spread of this coronavirus in China. The stupidity here is like a thick, inundating fog; first off if there is any witnesses in China that could offer valuable information on this subject and they have the character to inform the world public on the truth such people are sitting in urns in a nice Chinese families' homes. We're talking China here, a ruthless totalitarian government that has a track record of putting human rights subordinate to the interests of the state; people are living in a fantasy world if they believe they are going to find evidence establishing the truth, the Chinese government would never allow it. But this isn't the worst aspect of this big exercise American politicians are taking the country on with this pursuit.

Washington politicians are missing the key, what should be shaking everyone to their core, issue on this whole pandemic. Relatively, It is really not important whether the safety protocols at the Virus research lab in Wuhan were so lax that staff members were playing catch with vials of coronavirus and one vial dropped and started the pandemic or if owners in the Wuhan wet market were going to nearby bat caves collecting bats highly infected with coronaviruses and feeding the bats to animals on sale in the market and the animals developed a strain of a coronavirus that was fatal to humans. Relatively this is all irrelevant! What is critically relevant and should be alarming to everyone is that Chinese authorities knew that an epidemic was unfolding in their country that could become a deadly pandemic and did not do their duty to the world and warn it in a timely manner. Competent analysts believe that Chinese authorities had reason to believe as early as November of 2019 that a serious epidemic was being unleashed in their country. Their reasoning is that the spread of this coronavirus came to the United States through Europe which explains why New York City was an early epicenter of thePandemic in the United and in order for it to have traveled from China to Europe and created a significant spread in the United States in February meant that there was significant spread in China probably in November of 2019.

Just imagine if the Chinese authorities did what was right in November and alerted the World Health Organization that they think they have a serious epidemic on their hands. The WHO could have provided the resources if the Chinese government did not have them available to conduct surveys of those infected and it could have been readily determined that there was human to human transfer of this virus through respiratory particles, the scientist could have confirmed that there is a significant death rate for the virus in older people and people with serious health problems, scientist throughout the world could have documented the genetic code of the virus much more quickly and test kits could have been made readily available to determine if a person had the disease. If the Chinese government responded responsibly here hot spots for the virus could have been quarantined and the spread of the disease managed so that it would not devastate the world like it did. Just in America, the U.S. government has spent at least $ 5 trillion dollars in pandemic relief bills, tens of thousands of America's businesses have been permanently shuttered, hundreds of thousands of Americans have permanently lost jobs where they will not be able to get income equivalent replacements all these things caused by this pandemic.

There should be serious consequences on a government that fails to do its civic duty to the world in failing to warn them that a serious epidemic is originating in their country. Washington politicians should be working on codifying this into an international treaty; a good deterring penalty would be that a culpable country here has their trade reduced by thirty percent for ten years. Washington politicians should be putting together legislation that deters the Chinese government from doing anything like this ever again. What is this the second coronavirus pandemic coming out of China in the last twenty-five years; hey members of Congress the world doesn't need to see a hat trick on coronavirus creation from China, especially one where China allows countries throughout the world to be caught unprepared to protect their people, economy and their nation; we need you to get on the job here!
Surely no one denies that the origin of COVID is China! That's obvious, and nearly all epidemics do come from China and have done for --- millennia. Very germy place, China.

That's not what the controversy is about. It's about whether they were doing biowarfare research and let one of their babies get loose. I don't know; I don't care. Here we are.

As to whether China denied they had a problem till it spread all over, of course they did! They always do that ---- they've been doing that for millennia also. They did it in 2002 with SARS. They'll do it again.
 

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#23: No, Einstein, the evidence points to no human manipulation of the receptor binding domain of the wild-type virus. Which Chinese shared with the U.S.? You did know that China has blamed experiments at Fort Detrick, right?
 

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#23: No, Einstein, the evidence points to no human manipulation of the receptor binding domain of the wild-type virus. Which Chinese shared with the U.S.? You did know that China has blamed experiments at Fort Detrick, right?
Yeah, but not very persuasively. Fort Detrick is in Maryland. All the early COVID cases in the U.S. were in China or Asia or on the U.S. west coast. Fort Detrick has its faults and is surely doing biowarfare research, but this one didn't come from them.
 

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Cynical reactions won’t cut it either. Because it is a communist Chinese virus that has eaten 500,000+ Americans, an intelligent reader should care about the second population of COVID-19. That is to say, the population that is still evolving in nature, which is really also the first population. C-19 has not been found in bats.
 

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#27 is one dumb bunny, because it’s not only not relevant that Ft. Detrick is in Maryland, Ft. Detrick was doing experiments on what was last year a suspected intermediate host of COVID-19, Bungarus. Maryland, North Carolina, no state will suffice for the addiction to the lab-escape theory, because when the commies feigned lax Wuhan lab security some years ago, you were given a clue to the workings of their propaganda machine.
 

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China owns Biden.
He won't do anything and he'll make sure that any "smoking gun" uncovered will be covered right back up.

No, they don't.

It's amazing what people will say when reality lost its grip a long time ago
Reality? How about Hunter's laptop that the FBI buried? Follow the money:
However, it is a matter of record that just 10 days after this Beijing trip, Hunter Biden’s firm Rosemont Seneca secured a $1 billion investment from the state-owned bank of China, which was later expanded to $1.5 billion. As the managing partner of Rosemont Seneca, Hunter Biden would undoubtedly have knowledge of this deal, which was a first-of-its-kind arrangement for the recently formed Shanghai Free-Trade Zone. Indeed, Hunter Biden was placed on the Board of Directors of the new Chinese entity, Bohai Harvest RST.

So the president's son makes money in China and you equate this with the president being in the pocket of the Chinese.....

That's really weak.

Any examples of Biden being soft on China?


"Joe Biden says China wants to 'own' America by 2035 "

Would a person owned by China say that?


"China slams Biden administration's first planned arms sales to Taiwan"

Or this.

Come on, you're literally playing the game of throwing shit and hoping people see it and believe it. Because it's not based on reality.

And no, I'm not a Biden supporter at all.
 

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No, they don't.
Yes, they do. China also owns Dr. Fauci, the WHO and the UN. Donald Trump was the only leader with the backbone to take on China. Without him, the US and the world is in dire straights. China will continue to lie, cheat and steal and launch their FOURTH VIRUS ATTACK on the world.

Oh bullshit.


"China slams Biden administration's first planned arms sales to Taiwan"


"Trump on China’s Xi: ‘We love each other’"
 

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This pospotus cocksucker, JoeXi, is a CIA puppet. So what he says, is what the CIA says.
 

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China owns Biden.
He won't do anything and he'll make sure that any "smoking gun" uncovered will be covered right back up.

No, they don't.

It's amazing what people will say when reality lost its grip a long time ago
Reality? How about Hunter's laptop that the FBI buried? Follow the money:
However, it is a matter of record that just 10 days after this Beijing trip, Hunter Biden’s firm Rosemont Seneca secured a $1 billion investment from the state-owned bank of China, which was later expanded to $1.5 billion. As the managing partner of Rosemont Seneca, Hunter Biden would undoubtedly have knowledge of this deal, which was a first-of-its-kind arrangement for the recently formed Shanghai Free-Trade Zone. Indeed, Hunter Biden was placed on the Board of Directors of the new Chinese entity, Bohai Harvest RST.

So the president's son makes money in China and you equate this with the president being in the pocket of the Chinese.....

That's really weak.

Any examples of Biden being soft on China?


"Joe Biden says China wants to 'own' America by 2035 "

Would a person owned by China say that?


"China slams Biden administration's first planned arms sales to Taiwan"

Or this.

Come on, you're literally playing the game of throwing shit and hoping people see it and believe it. Because it's not based on reality.

And no, I'm not a Biden supporter at all.
China owns Biden.
He won't do anything and he'll make sure that any "smoking gun" uncovered will be covered right back up.

No, they don't.

It's amazing what people will say when reality lost its grip a long time ago
Reality? How about Hunter's laptop that the FBI buried? Follow the money:
However, it is a matter of record that just 10 days after this Beijing trip, Hunter Biden’s firm Rosemont Seneca secured a $1 billion investment from the state-owned bank of China, which was later expanded to $1.5 billion. As the managing partner of Rosemont Seneca, Hunter Biden would undoubtedly have knowledge of this deal, which was a first-of-its-kind arrangement for the recently formed Shanghai Free-Trade Zone. Indeed, Hunter Biden was placed on the Board of Directors of the new Chinese entity, Bohai Harvest RST.

So the president's son makes money in China and you equate this with the president being in the pocket of the Chinese.....

That's really weak.

Any examples of Biden being soft on China?


"Joe Biden says China wants to 'own' America by 2035 "

Would a person owned by China say that?


"China slams Biden administration's first planned arms sales to Taiwan"

Or this.

Come on, you're literally playing the game of throwing shit and hoping people see it and believe it. Because it's not based on reality.

And no, I'm not a Biden supporter at all.
Why is Joe Biden so warm toward China?

Last week, Biden raised eyebrows when he shrugged off concerns over the China threat. “Come on, man,” Biden said. “I mean, you know, they’re not bad folks, folks. But guess what, they’re not competition for us.”

Perhaps Biden’s insouciant attitude toward the Chinese government has to do with the fact that his family does not consider them competitors but business partners.

In 2013, then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden flew aboard Air Force Two to China. Less than two weeks later, Hunter Biden’s firm inked a $1 billion private equity deal with a subsidiary of the Chinese government’s Bank of China. The deal was later expanded to $1.5 billion. In short, the Chinese government funded a business that it co-owned along with the son of a sitting vice president.

If it sounds shocking that a vice president would shape US-China policy as his son — who has scant experience in private equity — clinched a coveted billion-dollar deal with an arm of the Chinese government, that’s because it is.
 

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China owns Biden.
He won't do anything and he'll make sure that any "smoking gun" uncovered will be covered right back up.

No, they don't.

It's amazing what people will say when reality lost its grip a long time ago
Reality? How about Hunter's laptop that the FBI buried? Follow the money:
However, it is a matter of record that just 10 days after this Beijing trip, Hunter Biden’s firm Rosemont Seneca secured a $1 billion investment from the state-owned bank of China, which was later expanded to $1.5 billion. As the managing partner of Rosemont Seneca, Hunter Biden would undoubtedly have knowledge of this deal, which was a first-of-its-kind arrangement for the recently formed Shanghai Free-Trade Zone. Indeed, Hunter Biden was placed on the Board of Directors of the new Chinese entity, Bohai Harvest RST.

So the president's son makes money in China and you equate this with the president being in the pocket of the Chinese.....

That's really weak.

Any examples of Biden being soft on China?


"Joe Biden says China wants to 'own' America by 2035 "

Would a person owned by China say that?


"China slams Biden administration's first planned arms sales to Taiwan"

Or this.

Come on, you're literally playing the game of throwing shit and hoping people see it and believe it. Because it's not based on reality.

And no, I'm not a Biden supporter at all.
China owns Biden.
He won't do anything and he'll make sure that any "smoking gun" uncovered will be covered right back up.

No, they don't.

It's amazing what people will say when reality lost its grip a long time ago
Reality? How about Hunter's laptop that the FBI buried? Follow the money:
However, it is a matter of record that just 10 days after this Beijing trip, Hunter Biden’s firm Rosemont Seneca secured a $1 billion investment from the state-owned bank of China, which was later expanded to $1.5 billion. As the managing partner of Rosemont Seneca, Hunter Biden would undoubtedly have knowledge of this deal, which was a first-of-its-kind arrangement for the recently formed Shanghai Free-Trade Zone. Indeed, Hunter Biden was placed on the Board of Directors of the new Chinese entity, Bohai Harvest RST.

So the president's son makes money in China and you equate this with the president being in the pocket of the Chinese.....

That's really weak.

Any examples of Biden being soft on China?


"Joe Biden says China wants to 'own' America by 2035 "

Would a person owned by China say that?


"China slams Biden administration's first planned arms sales to Taiwan"

Or this.

Come on, you're literally playing the game of throwing shit and hoping people see it and believe it. Because it's not based on reality.

And no, I'm not a Biden supporter at all.
Why is Joe Biden so warm toward China?

Last week, Biden raised eyebrows when he shrugged off concerns over the China threat. “Come on, man,” Biden said. “I mean, you know, they’re not bad folks, folks. But guess what, they’re not competition for us.”

Perhaps Biden’s insouciant attitude toward the Chinese government has to do with the fact that his family does not consider them competitors but business partners.

In 2013, then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden flew aboard Air Force Two to China. Less than two weeks later, Hunter Biden’s firm inked a $1 billion private equity deal with a subsidiary of the Chinese government’s Bank of China. The deal was later expanded to $1.5 billion. In short, the Chinese government funded a business that it co-owned along with the son of a sitting vice president.

If it sounds shocking that a vice president would shape US-China policy as his son — who has scant experience in private equity — clinched a coveted billion-dollar deal with an arm of the Chinese government, that’s because it is.

Nothing I've seen suggests Biden is anywhere near as warm to China as Trump was in his first two years as president. Trump only turned against China when he realized he needed and enemy to get reelected.
 

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It has been a while but if I recall correctly the Fauci Flu had origins in USA labs, then it was moved to the Chinese lab. The NIH should be defunded and nuked actually.
 

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China owns Biden.
He won't do anything and he'll make sure that any "smoking gun" uncovered will be covered right back up.

This is so "if we say it a million times, it'll be true" nonsense.
 

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All this commotion in Washington about the origins of the Covid 19 pandemic should make people wonder if when people go to Washington does an integral part of their brain die is there something in the Washington DC water supply that impairs people thinking that use that water! Washington politicians are yelping for an answer, President Biden is charging American's intelligence services to investigate and render an opinion on what were the circumstances behind the origin and the spread of this coronavirus in China. The stupidity here is like a thick, inundating fog; first off if there is any witnesses in China that could offer valuable information on this subject and they have the character to inform the world public on the truth such people are sitting in urns in a nice Chinese families' homes. We're talking China here, a ruthless totalitarian government that has a track record of putting human rights subordinate to the interests of the state; people are living in a fantasy world if they believe they are going to find evidence establishing the truth, the Chinese government would never allow it. But this isn't the worst aspect of this big exercise American politicians are taking the country on with this pursuit.

Washington politicians are missing the key, what should be shaking everyone to their core, issue on this whole pandemic. Relatively, It is really not important whether the safety protocols at the Virus research lab in Wuhan were so lax that staff members were playing catch with vials of coronavirus and one vial dropped and started the pandemic or if owners in the Wuhan wet market were going to nearby bat caves collecting bats highly infected with coronaviruses and feeding the bats to animals on sale in the market and the animals developed a strain of a coronavirus that was fatal to humans. Relatively this is all irrelevant! What is critically relevant and should be alarming to everyone is that Chinese authorities knew that an epidemic was unfolding in their country that could become a deadly pandemic and did not do their duty to the world and warn it in a timely manner. Competent analysts believe that Chinese authorities had reason to believe as early as November of 2019 that a serious epidemic was being unleashed in their country. Their reasoning is that the spread of this coronavirus came to the United States through Europe which explains why New York City was an early epicenter of thePandemic in the United and in order for it to have traveled from China to Europe and created a significant spread in the United States in February meant that there was significant spread in China probably in November of 2019.

Just imagine if the Chinese authorities did what was right in November and alerted the World Health Organization that they think they have a serious epidemic on their hands. The WHO could have provided the resources if the Chinese government did not have them available to conduct surveys of those infected and it could have been readily determined that there was human to human transfer of this virus through respiratory particles, the scientist could have confirmed that there is a significant death rate for the virus in older people and people with serious health problems, scientist throughout the world could have documented the genetic code of the virus much more quickly and test kits could have been made readily available to determine if a person had the disease. If the Chinese government responded responsibly here hot spots for the virus could have been quarantined and the spread of the disease managed so that it would not devastate the world like it did. Just in America, the U.S. government has spent at least $ 5 trillion dollars in pandemic relief bills, tens of thousands of America's businesses have been permanently shuttered, hundreds of thousands of Americans have permanently lost jobs where they will not be able to get income equivalent replacements all these things caused by this pandemic.

There should be serious consequences on a government that fails to do its civic duty to the world in failing to warn them that a serious epidemic is originating in their country. Washington politicians should be working on codifying this into an international treaty; a good deterring penalty would be that a culpable country here has their trade reduced by thirty percent for ten years. Washington politicians should be putting together legislation that deters the Chinese government from doing anything like this ever again. What is this the second coronavirus pandemic coming out of China in the last twenty-five years; hey members of Congress the world doesn't need to see a hat trick on coronavirus creation from China, especially one where China allows countries throughout the world to be caught unprepared to protect their people, economy and their nation; we need you to get on the job here!
#23: No, Einstein, the evidence points to no human manipulation of the receptor binding domain of the wild-type virus. Which Chinese shared with the U.S.? You did know that China has blamed experiments at Fort Detrick, right?
Yeah, but not very persuasively. Fort Detrick is in Maryland. All the early COVID cases in the U.S. were in China or Asia or on the U.S. west coast. Fort Detrick has its faults and is surely doing biowarfare research, but this one didn't come from them.
‘Not very persuasively.’ Have you thought about going back to school? Neither did the location OP suggests come from them. The closest relative of SARS-CoV-2 came from far away, Mojiang, Yunnan, and Eco Health Alliance was connected to the Yunnan Endemic Disease Institute, Dali, Yunnan. You follow the river out of Dali, and you arrive in thee territory of Bungarus multicinctus, studies of which happened at Ft. Detrick. These studies concerned chloroquine’s ability to increase the potency of the snake’s (Bungarus’s) venom 17-fold. Just as the originator of fentanyl, Janssen Pharmaceutica, is a division of Johnson and Johnson who makes COVID-19 vaccine, The same mutations documented for COVID-19, when applied to the human mu-opioid receptor at position 230, causes and increase of potency of fentanyl. Was George Floyd’s COVID-19 infection mentioned during the Chauvin trial? If not, why not?
 

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This is so "if we say it a million times, it'll be true" nonsense.
Yeah... just like the left did with white supremacy and Trump

Well, it happens a lot on both sides of the partisan divide. People have decided that politics is about manipulating people, instead of finding the best way
 

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China owns Biden.
He won't do anything and he'll make sure that any "smoking gun" uncovered will be covered right back up.

No, they don't.

It's amazing what people will say when reality lost its grip a long time ago
Reality? How about Hunter's laptop that the FBI buried? Follow the money:
However, it is a matter of record that just 10 days after this Beijing trip, Hunter Biden’s firm Rosemont Seneca secured a $1 billion investment from the state-owned bank of China, which was later expanded to $1.5 billion. As the managing partner of Rosemont Seneca, Hunter Biden would undoubtedly have knowledge of this deal, which was a first-of-its-kind arrangement for the recently formed Shanghai Free-Trade Zone. Indeed, Hunter Biden was placed on the Board of Directors of the new Chinese entity, Bohai Harvest RST.

So the president's son makes money in China and you equate this with the president being in the pocket of the Chinese.....

That's really weak.

Any examples of Biden being soft on China?


"Joe Biden says China wants to 'own' America by 2035 "

Would a person owned by China say that?


"China slams Biden administration's first planned arms sales to Taiwan"

Or this.

Come on, you're literally playing the game of throwing shit and hoping people see it and believe it. Because it's not based on reality.

And no, I'm not a Biden supporter at all.
China owns Biden.
He won't do anything and he'll make sure that any "smoking gun" uncovered will be covered right back up.

No, they don't.

It's amazing what people will say when reality lost its grip a long time ago
Reality? How about Hunter's laptop that the FBI buried? Follow the money:
However, it is a matter of record that just 10 days after this Beijing trip, Hunter Biden’s firm Rosemont Seneca secured a $1 billion investment from the state-owned bank of China, which was later expanded to $1.5 billion. As the managing partner of Rosemont Seneca, Hunter Biden would undoubtedly have knowledge of this deal, which was a first-of-its-kind arrangement for the recently formed Shanghai Free-Trade Zone. Indeed, Hunter Biden was placed on the Board of Directors of the new Chinese entity, Bohai Harvest RST.

So the president's son makes money in China and you equate this with the president being in the pocket of the Chinese.....

That's really weak.

Any examples of Biden being soft on China?


"Joe Biden says China wants to 'own' America by 2035 "

Would a person owned by China say that?


"China slams Biden administration's first planned arms sales to Taiwan"

Or this.

Come on, you're literally playing the game of throwing shit and hoping people see it and believe it. Because it's not based on reality.

And no, I'm not a Biden supporter at all.
Why is Joe Biden so warm toward China?

Last week, Biden raised eyebrows when he shrugged off concerns over the China threat. “Come on, man,” Biden said. “I mean, you know, they’re not bad folks, folks. But guess what, they’re not competition for us.”

Perhaps Biden’s insouciant attitude toward the Chinese government has to do with the fact that his family does not consider them competitors but business partners.

In 2013, then-Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden flew aboard Air Force Two to China. Less than two weeks later, Hunter Biden’s firm inked a $1 billion private equity deal with a subsidiary of the Chinese government’s Bank of China. The deal was later expanded to $1.5 billion. In short, the Chinese government funded a business that it co-owned along with the son of a sitting vice president.

If it sounds shocking that a vice president would shape US-China policy as his son — who has scant experience in private equity — clinched a coveted billion-dollar deal with an arm of the Chinese government, that’s because it is.

Nothing I've seen suggests Biden is anywhere near as warm to China as Trump was in his first two years as president. Trump only turned against China when he realized he needed and enemy to get reelected.
Hunter isn't "making money" in China.....he's getting money from the Chinese government.
 

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