The Nuking of Nagasaki: Even More Immoral and Unnecessary than Hiroshima

[elektra]

So you agree the emperor surrendered after the Russian invasion


Thanks

No, it is as I stated, Japan fought Russia until September.

I see you are beginning to learn, you no longer claim, Japan, as if the leadership was united.

So you agree, Japan did not surrender after Russia invaded, they fought Russian until september

 

[Vegasgiants]

No, it is as I stated, Japan fought Russia until September.

I see you are beginning to learn, you no longer claim, Japan, as if the leadership was united.

So you agree, Japan did not surrender after Russia invaded, they fought Russian until september

The US is not russia


Japan surrendered after the Russian invasion

 

[elektra]

The US is not russia


Japan surrendered after the Russian invasion

Japan? Japan was not a united government.

You don't even know who surrendered, when, or how.

If you wish to speak of Japan and Russia, Japan did not surrender after the Russian invasion. Japan fought the Russians.

 

[Vegasgiants]

Japan? Japan was not a united government.

You don't even know who surrendered, when, or how.

If you wish to speak of Japan and Russia, Japan did not surrender after the Russian invasion. Japan fought the Russians.

Yeah I do. Our war was over after the Russian invasion


Deny that

 

[elektra]

Yeah I do. Our war was over after the Russian invasion


Deny that

Our war continued after the Russian invasion. It did not end. We dropped a 2nd atomic bomb after the Russian invasion.

You could not be more wrong if you tried to be.

 

[Open Bolt]

The Japanese plan was to declare war, then immediately after attack Pearl Harbor within minutes. It got screwed up because it took the Japanese longer to decode the message from Japan than planned.

I consider it to have been Japan's responsibility to have verified that war was declared before they launched their attack.

 

[Vegasgiants]

Our war continued after the Russian invasion. It did not end. We dropped a 2nd atomic bomb after the Russian invasion.

You could not be more wrong if you tried to be.

And the emperor surrendered after the Russian invasion


I agree

 

[Open Bolt]

Some of the warships built at the Nagasaki shipyards:

The Yamato-class super-battleship Musashi, one of the two largest battleships ever built. Launched November 1, 1940. Commissioned August 5, 1942.

Japanese battleship Musashi - Wikipedia

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The Hiyō-class aircraft carrier Jun'yō. Launched June 26, 1941. Commissioned May 3, 1942.

Japanese aircraft carrier Jun'yō - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

The Unryū-class aircraft carrier Amagi. Launched October 15, 1943. Commissioned August 10, 1944.

Japanese aircraft carrier Amagi - Wikipedia

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The Unryū-class aircraft carrier Kasagi. Launched October 19, 1944. 84% complete when Japan surrendered. (Google Translate of Japanese Wikipedia)

https://ja-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/笠置_(空母)?_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

 

[elektra]

And the emperor surrendered after the Russian invasion


I agree

No, the Emperor surrendered after the atomic bomb was dropped on Ngasaki.

Pure fact.

 

[Vegasgiants]

No, the Emperor surrendered after the atomic bomb was dropped on Ngasaki.

Pure fact.

Did he surrender before the Russian invasion?


Lol

 

[Unkotare]

Yet, here we are with you informed and in denial

YOU making an incorrect claim does not equate to ME being in denial.

 

[Unkotare]

Yep

Still nope.

 

[elektra]

Did he surrender before the Russian invasion?


Lol

Russia and Japan fought until the 1st week of September.

A fact of history.

 

[Vegasgiants]

Russia and Japan fought until the 1st week of September.

A fact of history.

How nice for them


The war was over for the US

 

[elektra]

How nice for them


The war was over for the US

Not until 1952

 

[Vegasgiants]

Not until 1952

Now that is hilarious


HAHAHAHAHA

 

[elektra]

Not until 1952

Vegasgiants: Now that is hilarious

What is hilarious is how easy you take the bait, as I prove your ignorance

The state of war formally ended when the Treaty of San Francisco came into force on April 28, 1952. Four more years passed before Japan and the Soviet Union signed the Soviet–Japanese Joint Declaration of 1956, which formally brought an end to their state of war.

 

[Vegasgiants]

What is hilarious is how easy you take the bait, as I prove your ignorance

The state of war formally ended when the Treaty of San Francisco came into force on April 28, 1952. Four more years passed before Japan and the Soviet Union signed the Soviet–Japanese Joint Declaration of 1956, which formally brought an end to their state of war.

That is freaking hilarious

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Its your claim


Show me a quote that they said they did not know about the bomb



Back it up

Actually you need to learn how debate works you made a claim it is your job to support it no ours to prove it negative. Explain how Eisenhower and other generals knew months before the bomb was dropped about Atomic weapons.

 

[Vegasgiants]

Actually you need to learn how debate works you made a claim it is your job to support it no ours to prove it negative. Explain how Eisenhower and other generals knew months before the bomb was dropped about Atomic weapons.

I made no claim at all. Why does that matter? They saw it used and said it was completely unnecessary


Deny that