The Nuking of Nagasaki: Even More Immoral and Unnecessary than Hiroshima

[P@triot]

Claims that Japan offered to surrender before we dropped the atomic bombs are untrue

That is one of my favorite lies from the gender-confused *****-aching crowd. There is no "offer to surrender". Either you surrender or you don't. It like claiming you are sort of pregnant.

 

[P@triot]

Whatever labored, embarrassing arguments one can make for the nuking of Hiroshima cannot be made for the nuking of Nagasaki just three days later.

Just a reminder:

1. You really are an asshole (like, for real)
2. Nuking Nagasaki was not only justified, it was necessary (even if you can't stomach that)
3. This thread is truly immoral

It's people like Mike Griffith who caused the Holocaust. The belief that when your ***** tingles and aches, you give in and hide. It's people like Mike Griffith who caused 9/11. Instead of dealing with Al Qaeda in the 1990's, you give in to your tingling and aching *****. It's people like Mike Griffith who caused the mess in Ukraine.

Weakness invites aggression. Literally invites it. It's a clear and obvious phone call to evil stating "we're ripe for the taking - move now. Our ***** aches and tingles, it's time to rape us".

Only a ****'n idiot makes that phone call

 

[gipper]

^^^^warmongering idiots.

 

[gipper]

Just a reminder:

1. You really are an asshole (like, for real)
2. Nuking Nagasaki was not only justified, it was necessary (even if you can't stomach that)
3. This thread is truly immoral

It's people like Mike Griffith who caused the Holocaust. The belief that when your ***** tingles and aches, you give in and hide. It's people like Mike Griffith who caused 9/11. Instead of dealing with Al Qaeda in the 1990's, you give in to your tingling and aching *****. It's people like Mike Griffith who caused the mess in Ukraine.

Weakness invites aggression. Literally invites it. It's a clear and obvious phone call to evil stating "we're ripe for the taking - move now. Our ***** aches and tingles, it's time to rape us".

Only a ****'n idiot makes that phone call

*****!

 

[Rigby5]

Nukes weren’t illegal then and aren’t today. Bullets don’t kill cleanly in most cases, unless you are “lucky” enough to be hit in the brain or heart, you die slowly and in great pain.

Wrong.
Nukes are and always were illegal chemical and thermal weapons that are banned.
Bullets do not have to "cleanly kill" in that they usually just go right through, with only a temporary wound.
That is why hollow point and dumdum expanding bullets are illegal.
Gun shots in war are almost never lethal anymore.

But more to the point, NATO trying to put nukes on the Russian border is in violation of several treaties, and is as bad as the Cuban Missile Crisis. Are you suggesting that the US was criminal for forcing the nukes out of Cuba?

 

[Rigby5]

That is one of my favorite lies from the gender-confused *****-aching crowd. There is no "offer to surrender". Either you surrender or you don't. It like claiming you are sort of pregnant.

That is a lie.
Japan DID offer to surrender.
The US just had broken off all negotiations, so would not accept it.
The Japanese then sent the messages for surrender though the Soviets, since they still had an embassy in Japan.
The US got the surrender messages, but told Stalin to stall them until after we could test out the new nuclear weapons.
We wanted to show them off for the benefit of the Soviets, and they also wanted to see them in action.

 

[BackAgain]

Wrong.
Nukes are and always were illegal chemical and thermal weapons that are banned.
Bullets do not have to "cleanly kill" in that they usually just go right through, with only a temporary wound.
That is why hollow point and dumdum expanding bullets are illegal.
Gun shots in war are almost never lethal anymore.

But more to the point, NATO trying to put nukes on the Russian border is in violation of several treaties, and is as bad as the Cuban Missile Crisis. Are you suggesting that the US was criminal for forcing the nukes out of Cuba?

The US put up a naval blockade of Cuba in response to actual Soviet nuclear missiles being installed in Cuba. What nation did the US invade? What cities did it attack with soldiers, tanks, aircraft, gunfire and bombings? What hospitals did it attack? What people did it slaughter?

Oh that’s right. None.

And, that was in response to nuclear missiles actually being placed there. BY STATK CONTRAST: There were no nukes placed by the US or by NATO in Ukraine. Ukraine has long sought NATO membership, but had been denied for about 20 years. So, Putin’s invasion and criminal acts of war had no rational basis — as you falsely contend with your bullshit analogy.

 

[Rigby5]

Just a reminder:

1. You really are an asshole (like, for real)
2. Nuking Nagasaki was not only justified, it was necessary (even if you can't stomach that)
3. This thread is truly immoral

It's people like Mike Griffith who caused the Holocaust. The belief that when your ***** tingles and aches, you give in and hide. It's people like Mike Griffith who caused 9/11. Instead of dealing with Al Qaeda in the 1990's, you give in to your tingling and aching *****. It's people like Mike Griffith who caused the mess in Ukraine.

Weakness invites aggression. Literally invites it. It's a clear and obvious phone call to evil stating "we're ripe for the taking - move now. Our ***** aches and tingles, it's time to rape us".

Only a ****'n idiot makes that phone call

Since Hiroshima and Nagasaki had no significant war impact, and what little munitions production was safely underground from any bombing, HOW could their bombing at all be "justified" or "necessary"?

If you are saying they ended the war as demonstration of our nuclear power, that could much better have been done on an isolated land or water location, with Japanese scientist observers.
But hitting cities, we made it impossible for the Japanese government to even know or evaluate what happened, because the bombs knocked out all communications.

 

[Rigby5]

The US put up a naval blockade of Cuba in response to actual Soviet nuclear missiles being installed in Cuba. What nation did the US invade? What cities did it attack with soldiers, tanks, aircraft, gunfire and bombings? What hospitals did it attack? What people did it slaughter?

Oh that’s right. None.

And, that was in response to nuclear missiles actually being placed there. BY STATK CONTRAST: There were no nukes placed by the US or by NATO in Ukraine. Ukraine has long sought NATO membership, but had been denied for about 20 years. So, Putin’s invasion and criminal acts of war had no rational basis — as you falsely contend with your bullshit analogy.

Wrong.
The US invaded Cuba with the "Bay of Pigs".
The US invaded Vietnam, the Philippines, Puerto Rico, Panama, Nicaragua, Grenada, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc.

And the point is the Ukraine had violated their treaty by TRYING to get NATO nukes. The fact NATO refused doe not alter the crime by the Ukraine.

And the Russian invasion WAS warranted by the murder of ethnic Russians by the Ukraine, the oil thefts, the treaty violations, and finally, by the Ukraine cutting off negotiations. That was essentially an act of war.

 

[gipper]

Wrong.
The US invaded Cuba with the "Bay of Pigs".
The US invaded Vietnam, the Philippines, Puerto Rico, Panama, Nicaragua, Grenada, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc.

And the point is the Ukraine had violated their treaty by TRYING to get NATO nukes. The fact NATO refused doe not alter the crime by the Ukraine.

And the Russian invasion WAS warranted by the murder of ethnic Russians by the Ukraine, the oil thefts, the treaty violations, and finally, by the Ukraine cutting off negotiations. That was essentially an act of war.

Sadly few Americans know anything about the history of relations between Russia and Ukraine. They know nothing about the heavy Nazi influence within the Ukraine government. They know nothing of the 14,000 ethnic Russians killed in the Donbas the last ten years.

All they know is Putin BAD and Ukraine good. This is particularly true of the poster you just responded to.

 

[P@triot]

True, because FDR should not have provoked Japan to attack us.

Mike is the asshole who says "that woman deserved to be raped for the short skirt she was wearing".

It is literally impossible to "provoke" someone into attacking you. Nothing justifies the offensive act of dropping bombs on human beings.

Defensively? Absolutely. Bomb away. But no policy or sanction justifies dropping bombs on human beings. I'm about 99.8% Mike is a Russian or Chinese disinformation account.

 

[P@triot]

The US invaded Cuba with the "Bay of Pigs".

Psst...dumb ass...not only were there no US soldiers involved in the "Bay of Pigs", there weren't even US citizens. Those were all Cubans, dummy.

You're so uninformed, you're pinning a Cuban invasion of Cuba on the US

 

[P@triot]

That is why hollow point and dumdum expanding bullets are illegal.

Hollow point bullets are not illegal

I literally have 8 dozen boxes of them and not one was purchased on the black market. Furthermore, almost every law enforcement agency in the US issues hollow points because they don't pass through the target and injure someone else.

Every time you post, you make shit up. What is wrong with you?

 

[P@triot]

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[P@triot]

That is why hollow point and dumdum expanding bullets are illegal.

Hollow point bullets are not illegal

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[P@triot]

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[Open Bolt]

He said it and worse.

I doubt it.

Why would you object to his words?

Those words are not true.

Don’t you want Americans uninformed like yourself?

I am fully informed. That is how I am able to keep pointing out all your untrue statements.

 

[P@triot]

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[P@triot]

All they know is Putin BAD and Ukraine good. This is particularly true of the poster you just responded to.

No son. What we know is: Putin/Russia INVADE and Ukraine INVADED.

This isn't hard. Even for people like you!

 

[Open Bolt]

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I suspect that he was referring to soldiers on the battlefield not using hollow points and wasn't even thinking of civilian use.