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1. It has become a waste of time to discuss whether or not Obama can/will win.
He is more burned than Edgar Winter on an Ecuadoran beach.

a. Even Democrats are scorching him. "Rep. Dennis Cardoza, D-Calif., announced his retirement from Congress this afternoon -- and he issued a scathing parting shot at President Obama's track record on his way out." Announcing Retirement, Dem Congressman Bashes Obama - Hotline On Call

b. His poll numbers are down with every constituent group.

c. Think he can come back? Two words: Unemployment, Debt.

R.I.P.

2. Oscar Wilde: “There are only two tragedies in life: one is not getting what one wants, and the other is getting it.”

a. There is a very good chance the Republicans will controll the Executive, and the Legislative. Good? Are you happy with the current results of such a monopoly?

b. The two periods of fiscal responsibility in six decades were the Eisenhower and the Clinton administrations, periods during which the presidency and Congress were controlled by different parties. William A. Niskanen, “A Case For Divided Government,” A Case for Divided Government | William A. Niskanen | Cato Institute: Daily Commentary

c. The worst spending periods were those with one party in charge: 1967 and 1968, LBJ and the Democrats, spending increased 11.6% a year. Historical Tables | The White House (table 1.1)

d. The largest average decrease came in 1955 and 1956, with spending decreasing an average 4.2% a year. Eisenhower was President, with Democrats in charge in Congress. Ibid.

3. The good news? If the Republicans keep their promises, they should have at least eight years....and a couple of supreme court justices.

a. "The common wisdom holds that 'both parties' have to appeal to the extremes during the primary and then move to the center for the general election. To the contrary, both parties run for office as conservatives. Once they have fooled the voters and are safely in office, Republicans sometimes double-cross the voters. Democrats always do."
Coulter, 11-27-03

4. Hope for the best, but expect the worst.
 

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In reference to 2a, yes i'd be happy.
 
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In reference to 2a, yes i'd be happy.
1. Your avi is incorrect. Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto was published in 1848.

2. "A half-century before Karl Marx published the Communist Manifesto, there was Gracchus Babeuf’s Plebeian Manifesto, which was later renamed the Manifesto of the Equals. Babeuf’s early (1796) work has been described as socialist, anarchist, and communist, and has had an enormous impact. He wrote: “The French Revolution was nothing but a precursor of another revolution, on which will be bigger, more solemn, and which will be the last…We reach for something more sublime and more just: the common good or the community of goods! Nor more individual property in land: the land belongs to no one. We demand, we want, the common enjoyment of the fruits of the land: the fruits belong to all.”
From a speech by Rev. Robert A. Sirico, President, Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty.
Delivered at Hillsdale College, October 27, 2006


3. You misread item 2a. It asks if you are happy with the current results of this monopoly.


Aside from the above, your post was beyond perfection.
 

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1. It has become a waste of time to discuss whether or not Obama can/will win.
He is more burned than Edgar Winter on an Ecuadoran beach.

a. Even Democrats are scorching him. "Rep. Dennis Cardoza, D-Calif., announced his retirement from Congress this afternoon -- and he issued a scathing parting shot at President Obama's track record on his way out." Announcing Retirement, Dem Congressman Bashes Obama - Hotline On Call

b. His poll numbers are down with every constituent group.

c. Think he can come back? Two words: Unemployment, Debt.

R.I.P.

2. Oscar Wilde: “There are only two tragedies in life: one is not getting what one wants, and the other is getting it.”

a. There is a very good chance the Republicans will controll the Executive, and the Legislative. Good? Are you happy with the current results of such a monopoly?

b. The two periods of fiscal responsibility in six decades were the Eisenhower and the Clinton administrations, periods during which the presidency and Congress were controlled by different parties. William A. Niskanen, “A Case For Divided Government,” A Case for Divided Government | William A. Niskanen | Cato Institute: Daily Commentary

c. The worst spending periods were those with one party in charge: 1967 and 1968, LBJ and the Democrats, spending increased 11.6% a year. Historical Tables | The White House (table 1.1)

d. The largest average decrease came in 1955 and 1956, with spending decreasing an average 4.2% a year. Eisenhower was President, with Democrats in charge in Congress. Ibid.

3. The good news? If the Republicans keep their promises, they should have at least eight years....and a couple of supreme court justices.

a. "The common wisdom holds that 'both parties' have to appeal to the extremes during the primary and then move to the center for the general election. To the contrary, both parties run for office as conservatives. Once they have fooled the voters and are safely in office, Republicans sometimes double-cross the voters. Democrats always do."
Coulter, 11-27-03

4. Hope for the best, but expect the worst.
Don't count those chickens Pchick.

The tender notion that it's all over for Obama is nothing but a GOP 2012 election talking point......I'd think differently if anyone polled over Obama by 5 points or so....haven't made up my mind yet though....cuz I'mn a swing voter
 

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1) good catch, thnx.
3) I think the GOP serving the house and senate have been doing a decent job....I'm not happy with the status quo, but I would welcome a strong GOP majority, despite the GOP letting us down in the past, when we did have majorities.
 
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1. It has become a waste of time to discuss whether or not Obama can/will win.
He is more burned than Edgar Winter on an Ecuadoran beach.

a. Even Democrats are scorching him. "Rep. Dennis Cardoza, D-Calif., announced his retirement from Congress this afternoon -- and he issued a scathing parting shot at President Obama's track record on his way out." Announcing Retirement, Dem Congressman Bashes Obama - Hotline On Call

b. His poll numbers are down with every constituent group.

c. Think he can come back? Two words: Unemployment, Debt.

R.I.P.

2. Oscar Wilde: “There are only two tragedies in life: one is not getting what one wants, and the other is getting it.”

a. There is a very good chance the Republicans will controll the Executive, and the Legislative. Good? Are you happy with the current results of such a monopoly?

b. The two periods of fiscal responsibility in six decades were the Eisenhower and the Clinton administrations, periods during which the presidency and Congress were controlled by different parties. William A. Niskanen, “A Case For Divided Government,” A Case for Divided Government | William A. Niskanen | Cato Institute: Daily Commentary

c. The worst spending periods were those with one party in charge: 1967 and 1968, LBJ and the Democrats, spending increased 11.6% a year. Historical Tables | The White House (table 1.1)

d. The largest average decrease came in 1955 and 1956, with spending decreasing an average 4.2% a year. Eisenhower was President, with Democrats in charge in Congress. Ibid.

3. The good news? If the Republicans keep their promises, they should have at least eight years....and a couple of supreme court justices.

a. "The common wisdom holds that 'both parties' have to appeal to the extremes during the primary and then move to the center for the general election. To the contrary, both parties run for office as conservatives. Once they have fooled the voters and are safely in office, Republicans sometimes double-cross the voters. Democrats always do."
Coulter, 11-27-03

4. Hope for the best, but expect the worst.
Don't count those chickens Pchick.

The tender notion that it's all over for Obama is nothing but a GOP 2012 election talking point......I'd think differently if anyone polled over Obama by 5 points or so....haven't made up my mind yet though....cuz I'mn a swing voter
Tox....Pah-Leeeeeeeezzzzzzzz.

John Wayne Gacy as a write in would win over this empty-suit....make that chalk-outline.



Any GOP'er........Pay-Per-View

Obama............Pay-Per-Weight
 
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1) good catch, thnx.
3) I think the GOP serving the house and senate have been doing a decent job....I'm not happy with the status quo, but I would welcome a strong GOP majority, despite the GOP letting us down in the past, when we did have majorities.
"...despite the GOP letting us down in the past...'

There ya' go.


Coulter again:
"Republicans waste more time being afraid of Democrats than they do robbing orphan, evicting widows, helping corporations- you know, what we’re paying them to do."
 

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I agree, Obama is done. After he was elected Pelosi said something like 'my biggest fear is that we wont do enough' after eight years of neocon damage to everything.

Well here we are about 3 years later and everything he has done has proved to be an utter failure. Within 3 months of being elected he showed us all that his campain platform had zero effect on his policy.

In truth Obama is no different then Bush. What has changed with any policy?? The only thing that has changed is what they blow money on.
 

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1) good catch, thnx.
3) I think the GOP serving the house and senate have been doing a decent job....I'm not happy with the status quo, but I would welcome a strong GOP majority, despite the GOP letting us down in the past, when we did have majorities.
"...despite the GOP letting us down in the past...'

There ya' go.


Coulter again:
"Republicans waste more time being afraid of Democrats than they do robbing orphan, evicting widows, helping corporations- you know, what we’re paying them to do."
Are you suggesting something? Perhaps we should vote for some dems?

These are polarizing times, in large part because of our leadership, until the leadership changes there is an ideology war in our country, and the dems and gop candidates are mostly going to be hard liners.
 

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I agree that Obama cannot overcome the unemployment numbers. Something worries me about the next Republican administration. The Republicans are not stupid enough to let unemployment dominate the headlines. They like to govern from the context of national security so they can win public support for their agenda. This will help them wrestle the headlines from the Democrats. Remember: Bush based the 2004 election on Iraq. He went from being a lackluster president with the worst job growth in history to a war president. Fox News obliged by streaming 24/7 color coded terror alerts. Every day there was a new terror plot leaked out to the hive. Once Bush left, we stopped hearing about the War on Terrorism.

Problem is: the Republicans are coming back, and so is the war on terrorism - on steroids.

This new administration will divert attention from the economy to national security.

When Reagan spent twice as much as Carter, nobody noticed. When America went from being a creditor nation to the world's largest debtor, nobody noticed. We were blinded by the Evil Empire, which had been crumbling for decades. Same thing with Bush. When the largest housing bubble in the country's history was growing out of control, nobody noticed because we were fighting evil-doers, from Islamo-fascists to baby killing illegal atheist gay socialists.

God help us. They're coming back. If you thought the war on terrorism was an expensive, overblown mess conducted by a corrupt wasteful government, than you ain't seen nothing yet. When the next Republican president bankrupts us with more unfunded wars (against petty dictators), you will not hear a peep from the Tea Party. Not a peep. Watch and learn people. Another war is coming.
 
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Well, discussing whether Obama will win has always been largely unproductive. The answer is far from certain at this point. Intrade is actually giving the Democrats slightly higher odds than the Republicans of holding the White House. I've seen plenty of people on this board and elsewhere profess certainty about his reelection, but they don't seem to be making wagers commensurate with their professed certainty.

Obama winning at this point wouldn't even be a "comeback", though he himself has suggested it would be. I don't know of any serious candidate who is polling above Obama in a statistically significant way, and a number of plausible candidates have polled below him.

There is very little chance that Republicans will hold a veto-proof majority in the Senate after the elections, so I doubt their control over the legislature will be complete.
 

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Well, discussing whether Obama will win has always been largely unproductive. The answer is far from certain at this point. Intrade is actually giving the Democrats slightly higher odds than the Republicans of holding the White House. I've seen plenty of people on this board and elsewhere profess certainty about his reelection, but they don't seem to be making wagers commensurate with their professed certainty.

Obama winning at this point wouldn't even be a "comeback", though he himself has suggested it would be. I don't know of any serious candidate who is polling above Obama in a statistically significant way, and a number of plausible candidates have polled below him.

There is very little chance that Republicans will hold a veto-proof majority in the Senate after the elections, so I doubt their control over the legislature will be complete.
All very true.
 

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The Obama presidency is at best an ongoing paradox.

While Obama is personable and likeable in comparison to the elitist weasel he replaced, and while he is doing an admirable job at pretending to be the People's president, the fact remains he is owned by Wall Street. And while his occasional anti-Wall Street commentary is tolerated as expediently deceptive theatrical rhetoric the fact remains Wall Street money bought him the Presidency and without Wall Street money he has little to no chance of retaining it.

In spite of Obama's shortcomings he is a vast improvement over George W. Bush. And to keep the Republican out I will vote for him again. That is unless the DNC puts up another candidate, like Dennis Kucinich, or if Ralph Nader decides to run again -- because I believe this could be Nader's time. And Ralph Nader is Wall Street's worst nightmare.

Imagine Ralph Nader as President, Dennis Kucinich as Chief of Staff, Bernie Sanders as vice-President and Eliot Spitzer as Attorney General.
 

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1. It has become a waste of time to discuss whether or not Obama can/will win.
He is more burned than Edgar Winter on an Ecuadoran beach.

a. Even Democrats are scorching him. "Rep. Dennis Cardoza, D-Calif., announced his retirement from Congress this afternoon -- and he issued a scathing parting shot at President Obama's track record on his way out." Announcing Retirement, Dem Congressman Bashes Obama - Hotline On Call

b. His poll numbers are down with every constituent group.

c. Think he can come back? Two words: Unemployment, Debt.

R.I.P.

2. Oscar Wilde: “There are only two tragedies in life: one is not getting what one wants, and the other is getting it.”

a. There is a very good chance the Republicans will controll the Executive, and the Legislative. Good? Are you happy with the current results of such a monopoly?

b. The two periods of fiscal responsibility in six decades were the Eisenhower and the Clinton administrations, periods during which the presidency and Congress were controlled by different parties. William A. Niskanen, “A Case For Divided Government,” A Case for Divided Government | William A. Niskanen | Cato Institute: Daily Commentary

c. The worst spending periods were those with one party in charge: 1967 and 1968, LBJ and the Democrats, spending increased 11.6% a year. Historical Tables | The White House (table 1.1)

d. The largest average decrease came in 1955 and 1956, with spending decreasing an average 4.2% a year. Eisenhower was President, with Democrats in charge in Congress. Ibid.

3. The good news? If the Republicans keep their promises, they should have at least eight years....and a couple of supreme court justices.

a. "The common wisdom holds that 'both parties' have to appeal to the extremes during the primary and then move to the center for the general election. To the contrary, both parties run for office as conservatives. Once they have fooled the voters and are safely in office, Republicans sometimes double-cross the voters. Democrats always do."
Coulter, 11-27-03

4. Hope for the best, but expect the worst.
Don't quit your day job.
 

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1. It has become a waste of time to discuss whether or not Obama can/will win.
He is more burned than Edgar Winter on an Ecuadoran beach.

a. Even Democrats are scorching him. "Rep. Dennis Cardoza, D-Calif., announced his retirement from Congress this afternoon -- and he issued a scathing parting shot at President Obama's track record on his way out." Announcing Retirement, Dem Congressman Bashes Obama - Hotline On Call

b. His poll numbers are down with every constituent group.

c. Think he can come back? Two words: Unemployment, Debt.

R.I.P.

2. Oscar Wilde: “There are only two tragedies in life: one is not getting what one wants, and the other is getting it.”

a. There is a very good chance the Republicans will controll the Executive, and the Legislative. Good? Are you happy with the current results of such a monopoly?

b. The two periods of fiscal responsibility in six decades were the Eisenhower and the Clinton administrations, periods during which the presidency and Congress were controlled by different parties. William A. Niskanen, “A Case For Divided Government,” A Case for Divided Government | William A. Niskanen | Cato Institute: Daily Commentary

c. The worst spending periods were those with one party in charge: 1967 and 1968, LBJ and the Democrats, spending increased 11.6% a year. Historical Tables | The White House (table 1.1)

d. The largest average decrease came in 1955 and 1956, with spending decreasing an average 4.2% a year. Eisenhower was President, with Democrats in charge in Congress. Ibid.

3. The good news? If the Republicans keep their promises, they should have at least eight years....and a couple of supreme court justices.

a. "The common wisdom holds that 'both parties' have to appeal to the extremes during the primary and then move to the center for the general election. To the contrary, both parties run for office as conservatives. Once they have fooled the voters and are safely in office, Republicans sometimes double-cross the voters. Democrats always do."
Coulter, 11-27-03

4. Hope for the best, but expect the worst.
Don't count those chickens Pchick.

The tender notion that it's all over for Obama is nothing but a GOP 2012 election talking point......I'd think differently if anyone polled over Obama by 5 points or so....haven't made up my mind yet though....cuz I'mn a swing voter
Tox....Pah-Leeeeeeeezzzzzzzz.

John Wayne Gacy as a write in would win over this empty-suit....make that chalk-outline.



Any GOP'er........Pay-Per-View

Obama............Pay-Per-Weight
What the GOP needs to do...is have someone in a gunny sack run against Obama......the generic GOP candidate is the only one polling a few points over Obama........the GOP needs Mr Generic G. Generic to run...then they'll win.

If any of those GOP schlocks currently running for the nomination run against Obama....I don't share your confidence!

btw....Pay-per-weight......now that is funny. Can I use that?
 

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No worries here.......The Varsity back in charge in a little over a year. And be sure to tune in here on election night as I roll out a whole library of gay MSPAINT Photobucket Classics to celebrate rubbing salt into the wound of the k00ks.


Like this one...................:2up:


 

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President Obama's re-election prospects are toast.

This is good news.

The bad news is that the GOP could nominate another lightweight liberal pacifier thereby insuring the election of a weak-willed loser instead of a conservative dynamo.

Salvation is not found just in tossing the loser off of his Oval Office perch.

True salvation is found in replacing President Obama with a guy who can and will make a difference. One who will immediately set about the urgent business of undoing the damage inflicted on this Republic by the Obama Administration. Accordingly, the White House is not the only prize or the only important and urgent prize. Reclaiming ALL of Congress is also a necessity.

Political Chick is right in worrying about the monopoly of legislative AND executive power being held by one Party. But the urgency of undoing the Obama Administration damage is important enough to warrant that risk.
 

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I agree that Obama cannot overcome the unemployment numbers. Something worries me about the next Republican administration. The Republicans are not stupid enough to let unemployment dominate the headlines. They like to govern from the context of national security so they can win public support for their agenda. This will help them wrestle the headlines from the Democrats. Remember: Bush based the 2004 election on Iraq. He went from being a lackluster president with the worst job growth in history to a war president. Fox News obliged by streaming 24/7 color coded terror alerts. Every day there was a new terror plot leaked out to the hive. Once Bush left, we stopped hearing about the War on Terrorism.

Problem is: the Republicans are coming back, and so is the war on terrorism - on steroids.

This new administration will divert attention from the economy to national security.

When Reagan spent twice as much as Carter, nobody noticed. When America went from being a creditor nation to the world's largest debtor, nobody noticed. We were blinded by the Evil Empire, which had been crumbling for decades. Same thing with Bush. When the largest housing bubble in the country's history was growing out of control, nobody noticed because we were fighting evil-doers, from Islamo-fascists to baby killing illegal atheist gay socialists.

God help us. They're coming back. If you thought the war on terrorism was an expensive, overblown mess conducted by a corrupt wasteful government, than you ain't seen nothing yet. When the next Republican president bankrupts us with more unfunded wars (against petty dictators), you will not hear a peep from the Tea Party. Not a peep. Watch and learn people. Another war is coming
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I'm fairly certain come 11/2012 we'll see a quantum shift insofar as the Democrats will be relegated to near irrelevancy. What worries me is that the Republicans may ignore the will of the people and just be "Democrat Lite"... like they have so many times in the past.

Hopefully the Tea Party can keep the pressure on them.

And I agree, Obama getting re-elected is just not going to happen... the far left moonbats don't like him because he hasn't gone totally Chavez, the moderates don't like him because he is too far left and he is even losing ground with African Americans. Face it, this guy didn't get into office on a landlside... it was a close race the first time.
 
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