The news is really just unbelievable these days

[notmyfault2020]

Just when you thought you'd heard everything vis a vis corruption in the US (and everywhere else) you hear more stories in the news

the weaponization of govt agencies (they go after Trump without cause. Oh, I guess their cause is that he is onto them and their corruption...)

the way the J6 committee withheld that footage showing "the shaman" walking peacefully with the cops through thecapital and they were opening doors for him, literally but the J6 committee called that guy and others with him that day "dangerous." Didn't they also say some weird thing about how the J6 "riots" were worse than 911?! OMG! Who believes these freaks anyway?

Then there's the border that is over-run and now Americans have died because of the cartels having a field day because of these sick border policies

And there are so many other stories in the news that could be added. It's just amazing. I was taught that our country was just so great. Well, it seems to have started out that way----

 

[Lisa558]

Just when you thought you'd heard everything vis a vis corruption in the US (and everywhere else) you hear more stories in the news

the weaponization of govt agencies (they go after Trump without cause. Oh, I guess their cause is that he is onto them and their corruption...)

the way the J6 committee withheld that footage showing "the shaman" walking peacefully with the cops through thecapital and they were opening doors for him, literally but the J6 committee called that guy and others with him that day "dangerous." Didn't they also say some weird thing about how the J6 "riots" were worse than 911?! OMG! Who believes these freaks anyway?

Then there's the border that is over-run and now Americans have died because of the cartels having a field day because of these sick border policies

And there are so many other stories in the news that could be added. It's just amazing. I was taught that our country was just so great. Well, it seems to have started out that way----

In a way, I’m glad the Democrats finally got to this level of “war” against those who disagree them. It’s so bad - EVIL - that only the entrenched leftists will figure out a way to talk themselves into justifying it. That’s about 30% at most. (The same idiot 30% who approve of Biden’s performance.)

The other 2/3rds have had enough of the Dems’ flouting the Americans’ civil rights (if they dissent from their positions), the racism of “diversity” goals, the invasion of the illegals, and the president fighting the Fed in an effort to keep inflation high and people dependent on handouts.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Just when you thought you'd heard everything vis a vis corruption in the US (and everywhere else) you hear more stories in the news

the weaponization of govt agencies (they go after Trump without cause. Oh, I guess their cause is that he is onto them and their corruption...)

the way the J6 committee withheld that footage showing "the shaman" walking peacefully with the cops through thecapital and they were opening doors for him, literally but the J6 committee called that guy and others with him that day "dangerous." Didn't they also say some weird thing about how the J6 "riots" were worse than 911?! OMG! Who believes these freaks anyway?

Then there's the border that is over-run and now Americans have died because of the cartels having a field day because of these sick border policies

And there are so many other stories in the news that could be added. It's just amazing. I was taught that our country was just so great. Well, it seems to have started out that way----

You were lied to. Our country started out Racist, sexist and elitist. White men ruled in every arena of life. Women and people of color had no say at all in how we were governed.
Black people were codified as property in our very Constitution. "All men were created equal" was lie from the very start.

Things have gotten much, much better. That you don't think so merely shows a lack of knowledge of history..and how the vast majority of people have lived throughout most of time.

BTW...for your interest...9/11 brought America together. The horror and the tragedy united us. It paradoxically made us stronger as a nation.
Jan. 6, and the Big lie that preceded it and was the proximate cause, divided us further. It weakened out institutions and has posed an existential danger to the very existence of the US as a nation. It is the Accelerationists wet dream, out country coming apart at the seams.

Yes, Jan. 6 WAS worse than 9/11 and it is continuing--an ongoing train wreck.

 

[rightwinger]

Just when you thought you'd heard everything vis a vis corruption in the US (and everywhere else) you hear more stories in the news

the weaponization of govt agencies (they go after Trump without cause. Oh, I guess their cause is that he is onto them and their corruption...)

the way the J6 committee withheld that footage showing "the shaman" walking peacefully with the cops through thecapital and they were opening doors for him, literally but the J6 committee called that guy and others with him that day "dangerous." Didn't they also say some weird thing about how the J6 "riots" were worse than 911?! OMG! Who believes these freaks anyway?

Then there's the border that is over-run and now Americans have died because of the cartels having a field day because of these sick border policies

And there are so many other stories in the news that could be added. It's just amazing. I was taught that our country was just so great. Well, it seems to have started out that way----

Why are Conservatives defending the actions of “the shaman”??

Are you proud he represents you?

 

[notmyfault2020]

You were lied to. Our country started out Racist, sexist and elitist. White men ruled in every arena of life. Women and people of color had no say at all in how we were governed.
Black people were codified as property in our very Constitution. "All men were created equal" was lie from the very start.

Things have gotten much, much better.

You are just so off the rails.

No one said that the country was perfect in the beginning. But there is this:

there was no legalized abortion

And the Founders knew slavery was wrong, un-American, and made decisions based on ending slavery some day. Sure, we can all look back and say they should have fixed the problem sooner, immediamente! .. But they likely did the best or virtually the best they could.

And I could go on all day but I'm not going to because if there's one thing I know about libs, they do NOT listen to the other side of things. they know it all already...

 

[notmyfault2020]

Why are Conservatives defending the actions of “the shaman”??

Are you proud he represents you?

ummm... I dunno...

maybe we defend him because

shocking, I know

He didn't do anything criminal!!

(unlike the dim elites. Just about all they do is criminal )

 

[rightwinger]

You are just so off the rails.

No one said that the country was perfect in the beginning. But there is this:

there was no legalized abortion

And the Founders knew slavery was wrong, un-American, and made decisions based on ending slavery some day. Sure, we can all look back and say they should have fixed the problem sooner, immediamente! .. But they likely did the best or virtually the best they could.

And I could go on all day but I'm not going to because if there's one thing I know about libs, they do NOT listen to the other side of things. they know it all already...

The founders kicked the can of slavery down the road for future generations to handle.

It almost destroyed what they had built

 

[rightwinger]

ummm... I dunno...

maybe we defend him because

shocking, I know

He didn't do anything criminal!!

(unlike the dim elites. Just about all they do is criminal )

He plead guilty

 

[notmyfault2020]

He plead guilty

It's "pled" not plead

He probably pled out because he knew if it went to trial, the full force of our beautiful, wonderful gummit would be against him and well... gee. .. why would he think he may not have much of a chance?

 

[Hellokitty]

He plead guilty

His lawyer explained his plea was based on the governments case against him, and that the government illegally withheld this evidence didn't allow him to make an informed plea.

 

[rightwinger]

His lawyer explained his plea was based on the governments case against him, and that the government illegally withheld this evidence didn't allow him to make an informed plea.

Nothing shows he didn’t occupy the House Chamber and refused to leave

 

[Hellokitty]

Nothing shows he didn’t occupy the House Chamber and refused to leave

Was he asked to leave, because the video shows CP giving him a tour and opening doors for him?

 

[rightwinger]

Was he asked to leave, because the video shows CP giving him a tour and opening doors for him?

Yes
He was repeatedly asked to leave and refused to do so

 

[BackAgain]

To some extent I cannot help but agree that a portion of the Jan 6 protests turned unruly, at least some of the protestors became a mob and that some of the mob committed crimes like trespass, criminal mischief and assaults.

I didn’t understand Tucker Carlson as claiming that it was entirely peaceful. And I don’t buy that it’s what he meant.

Instead, Varlson was focused on the videos of what the Shaman-boi was shown as doing (and what he was not doing). I happen to agree with what I believe Tucker was saying: that is, that the videos simply do not show Shaman-boi as violent.

The OP suggests that there is something fishy here. I agree with him. There certainly is the foul stink of something fishy and rotting.

 

[rightwinger]

To some extent I cannot help but agree that a portion of the Jan 6 protests turned unruly, at least some of the protestors became a mob and that some of the mob committed crimes like trespass, criminal mischief and assaults.

I didn’t understand Tucker Carlson as claiming that it was entirely peaceful. And I don’t buy that it’s what he meant.

Instead, Varlson was focused on the videos of what the Shaman-boi was shown as doing (and what he was not doing). I happen to agree with what I believe Tucker was saying: that is, that the videos simply do not show Shaman-boi as violent.

The OP suggests that there is something fishy here. I agree with him. There certainly is the foul stink of something fishy and rotting.

Carlson is full of shit
Nobody ever claimed every protestor was violent 100 percent of the time

Him showing videos of protestors not being violent proves nothing about those who were.

Showing video of the Shamen not breaking the law does not negate the times he did

 

[Winston]

t
there was no legalized abortion

Actually, abortion during Colonial times and up until the middle of the 19th century, was a common and accepted practice usually conducted by a midwife. It was most certainly not "illegal".

Abortion in Colonial America: A Time of Herbal Remedies and Accepted Actions - UConn Today

UConn historians discuss abortion in Colonial America

today.uconn.edu

 

[notmyfault2020]

His lawyer explained his plea was based on the governments case against him, and that the government illegally withheld this evidence didn't allow him to make an informed plea.

In other words, the whole case was a farce, therefore his plea and everything else needs to be tossed out

 

[BackAgain]

Carlson is full of shit
Nobody ever claimed every protestor was violent 100 percent of the time

Nor is that what Carlson said, suggested or implied. Turns out, you are the one (once again) who is full of shit.

Him showing videos of protestors not being violent proves nothing about those who were.

Him showing videos of Shaman-boi being escorted by Capitol cops into the Senate side and not ever being arrested by them does say something about the claims of his alleged violence.

Showing video of the Shamen not breaking the law does not negate the times he did

Maybe. But it does support a determination that he wasn’t in fact guilty of any element of “violence.”

 

[notmyfault2020]

Actually, abortion during Colonial times and up until the middle of the 19th century, was a common and accepted practice usually conducted by a midwife. It was most certainly not "illegal".

Abortion in Colonial America: A Time of Herbal Remedies and Accepted Actions - UConn Today

UConn historians discuss abortion in Colonial America

today.uconn.edu

What a liar you are

 

[Winston]

It's "pled" not plead

He probably pled out because he knew if it went to trial, the full force of our beautiful, wonderful gummit would be against him and well... gee. .. why would he think he may not have much of a chance?

Or maybe he knew he was guilty. Hell, there were videos and pictures on social media.