I know. The limp wristed faggots like to call America *extremist Christian*.
I tell you, it's time to cull the worthless losers of this country.
There is that good Christian love, shining for all to see, right?
Love and self-defense are fully compatible.
Well let's see what Christian scriptures say about the matter:
"but I say unto you, resist not him that is evil: but whosoever smiteth thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also."
-- Jesus; as quoted Mt 5:39
"it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing."
-- Romans 13:5-6
So you're saying that Christians should not resist evil, and simply allow it to abuse them ?
Dear
Agit8r and
protectionist
The best interpretation of turning the other cheek means to
REBUKE someone as an EQUAL PEER, not as a slave or noncitizen.
A slap by the left hand across the right cheek was reserved for slaves not considered equal. So the point is to demand to be addressed as an equal, on level ground.
The equivalent of this today is for people to petition each other equally as govt to redress grievances directly -- to respect and include all people's beliefs EQUALLY as protected by law, and mediate on that level, where all people and all views are valued EQUALLY.
NOT this business of putting down another group as having "invalid beliefs" that deserve to be overridden by majority rule.
The left is doing this with the right opposition to health care mandates based on beliefs on rights of states and people not to be usurped by federal govt without due process, vote and consent.
When the left protested against these Indiana laws that could be abused to go too far on the side of discrimination, the right LISTENED and RECEIVED that rebuke and leaders agreed to REVISE it to INCLUDE the objections of opposition.
Why doesn't the LEFT respect the opposing points of the RIGHT?
This shows there is political discrimination going on.
The Left expects the Right to submit to "equal protection of the laws" to include opposing views, but when the shoe is on the other foot, the left is imposing onesided agenda and the right protests, the left NEGATES discredits and excludes the Right as "invalid" and won't take those objections and points seriously into account!
Every time I've brought up Constitutional objections by the Right (and also moderates and the left) to ACA mandates, the political left shuts down that whole argument as invalid and refuses to listen "until and unless the arguments are made and passed through Congress or Courts first" and THEN it would be considered.
But here, again, with the Indiana law, the public protests alone influenced the process, and people LISTENED and pushed to revise the bill so it DIDN'T GO TOO FAR.
That's all I asked in the case of ACA -- to LISTEN to public objections and take those into account.
But when I bring this up, again, I get EXCUSES and "justifications" that the ACA is "different" and is valid law until and unless it goes through Courts first to change it.
The Governors and lawmakers in Indiana and Arkansas didn't wait for formal lawsuits and orders by a Judge before they endorsed the push to REVISE the bills to resolve such objections.
Am I the only one who sees this COULD be done with ACA instead of denying the objections as invalid and refusing to account for why half the nation has been contesting those laws, too!
WHY THE DOUBLE STANDARD
WHY DO THE SAME PEOPLE GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO DEFEND ACA MANDATES DESPITE CONSTANT OBJECTION THAT HAS NEVER WAVERED.
YET ATTACK THIS STATE LEGISLATION AS A NATIONAL ISSUE.
WHY THE SELECTIVE OUTRAGE, AND DEMONIZATION?
What a cowardly and dishonest political ploy: for the left who are opposed to ACA mandates to remain silent so only the rightwing opposition takes the beating in public for vocally and legally fighting this "as the bad guy." But when it comes to the RFRA laws, the same left SILENTLY USES the Christian support that fights for their agenda and again DEMONIZES the Christian Right in Public for political leverage. It does not help to applaud the Christian left for showing support, but only helps to ATTACK Christians as bigots to sway public opinion.
Always using the Christians and the Right for political advantage, never crediting but always slamming them as bigots because that is popular right now. Sick. No wonder so many opponents who can't stand this abusive blindsided bigotry considers liberals to be mentally ill.
If you are THAT blinded in perception, that can't be healthy and balanced.
Even if you think the fundies on the right are just as blindsided, two wrongs don't make a right.
Two sides in denial, projecting blame on each other are doubly sick, and both are equally off.
This really is sick. How can people only see their side, and can't see the other.
When I can see both sides struggling to defend their beliefs and interests from the other, I feel twice as sickened if not 3-4 times, knowing they don't see they are politically discriminating against each other. Why should I have to pay 4 times over for mistakes, lawsuits and other public costs from these conflicts escalating in legislatures and courts at taxpayer expense?