The Muslim Games hosted at a public school

[westwall]

Your assumption is incorrect. He was fired for praying alone and that was determined to be a violation of his rights, as it should be. He did nothing to encourage or require participation of students. His firing was invalid as he did not establish religion in any way. I fully supported his efforts.


There again, you are incorrect. A teacher on coach or school grounds is not allowed to participate in any religious activities, Bible, Quran, Torah, or Flying Spaghetti Monster colander wearing. Favoring of one religion over another is the reason for that policy. That would be establishment.

In case you are wondering, I coached for 7 years in my high school in Florida. My girls held a prayer before every game. No one could say a thing because as they gathered together, I walked away and did not participate. I explained to them anytime they asked the reason why.

What I find amusing is you completely ignore the fact that he WAS fired. You blissfully claim that there is no discrimination against Christians, then, when it is pointed out that cases have been taken to the Supreme Court, you squeal, "well yeah, they shouldn't have done that".....but they DID! You stupid clod.

That's our point, which sails right over your tiny little head!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

More than you, apparently.

Wel, that has yet to be seen. You just tried to use an unrelated case to justify your opinion.

 

[Blisterfinger]

Shouldn't the events include games to see who can behead the most infidels and who can toss the most gays off a roof?

Speed beheading would be a good event

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

What I find amusing is you completely ignore the fact that he WAS fired. You blissfully claim that there is no discrimination against Christians, then, when it is pointed out that cases have been taken to the Supreme Court, you squeal, "well yeah, they shouldn't have done that".....but they DID! You stupid clod.

That's our point, which sails right over your tiny little head!

One school district screws up, and they were corrected because the decision to fire him was wrong. Put away that broad brush. This is not happening in any other school district or you would have plenty of examples.

As I said, the exact opposite case occurred in my local school district where my granddaughter attends. The coach was fired and stands no chance of getting his job back.

Coach Kennedy did not violate the establishment clause, but our local coach did and was summarily fired after he had been warned to stop!

I thought you were a college professor and wouldn't not know anything about public schools. I guess I was correct because apparently you don't!

 

[Rawley]

Not a Christian group being banned from using school facilities. Try again.

? It's lefty group losing their shit when a couch is merely saying a prayer on the field.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

? It's lefty group losing their shit when a couch is merely saying a prayer on the field.

What couch? Why is a couch on the field?

Hint: You don't know what you are talking about.

 

[Rawley]

What couch? Why is a couch on the field?

Hint: You don't know what you are talking about.

Stop being an asshole

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

What is the problem?

If a Christian or Jews games event was hosted at a public school you know the loons would have screaming fits.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Stop being an asshole

You don't know what you are talking about. There was no "lefty group" in the previously mentioned case. He sued his school board and won for wrongful termination.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If a Christian or Jews games event was hosted at a public school you know the loons would have screaming fits.

Public schools host church activities all the time from my own schooling in the 60s and 70s right up until today. When churches had special revival meetings, they rented out auditoriums in the schools. High schools where I taught held baccalaureate ceremonies in local churches. Is that illegal in your eyes?

Haven't seen or heard of any screaming fits. Have you?

 

[westwall]

One school district screws up, and they were corrected because the decision to fire him was wrong. Put away that broad brush. This is not happening in any other school district or you would have plenty of examples.

As I said, the exact opposite case occurred in my local school district where my granddaughter attends. The coach was fired and stands no chance of getting his job back.

Coach Kennedy did not violate the establishment clause, but our local coach did and was summarily fired after he had been warned to stop!

I thought you were a college professor and wouldn't not know anything about public schools. I guess I was correct because apparently you don't!

Like I said, he is one of many, but little devoted you, blissfully ignore the fact that it should have never happened. It should have never even been a thought in the tiny heads of the administration.

But they did it with glee.

Time for you to pull your head out of your keester.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Like I said, he is one of many, but little devoted you, blissfully ignore the fact that it should have never happened. It should have never even been a thought in the tiny heads of the administration.

But they did it with glee.

Time for you to pull your head out of your keester.

Yes, they did and they were wrong because they did not have an educator like me to tell them they were wrong.

My head is just fine where it is at, watching you flail trying to explain yourself when you are obviously out to lunch on the topic.

Is Washington a blue state or red state?

 

[Rawley]

You don't know what you are talking about.

And you are an ignorant blowhard

There was no "lefty group" in the previously mentioned case. He sued his school board and won for wrongful termination.

Well, you ignorant diptshit, the District expressly argued they suspended him over the threat of Establishment lawsuits

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-418_i425.pdf

Read more. Bloviate less. And stop being an asshole.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And you are an ignorant blowhard

Well, you ignorant diptshit, the District expressly argued they suspended him over the threat of Establishment lawsuits

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21-418_i425.pdf

Read more. Bloviate less. And stop being an asshole.

There was no establishment for anyone to sue over, dumbass! That's why they were wrong to fire him. They lost, in case you didn't figure that out on your own, meaning there was no valid reason to fire him!

I would suggest you take the advice you gave me because you need it, and I do not.

I read the case when it first occurred several years ago. Did you?

I took educational law in graduate school. Did you?

I was a school administrator. Were you?

Until you can prove anything I said wrong, I suggest you STFU!

No bloviating here.

 

[Rawley]

There was no establishment for anyone to sue over, dumbass!

As I said, read more, bloviate less and stop being an asshole spewing nothing but insults.

The District Court found that the “ ‘sole reason’ ” for the District’s decision to suspend Mr. Kennedy was its perceived “risk of constitutional liability” under the Establishment Clause for his “religious conduct” after three games in October 2015

The District, like the Ninth Circuit below, insists Mr. Kennedy’s rights to religious exercise and free speech must yield to the District’s interest in avoiding an Establishment Clause violation under Lemon and its progeny

 

[westwall]

Yes, they did and they were wrong because they did not have an educator like me to tell them they were wrong.

My head is just fine where it is at, watching you flail trying to explain yourself when you are obviously out to lunch on the topic.

Is Washington a blue state or red state?

Flail? You're the jackass having to admit that the Supreme Court had to reverse a school system action, you dumbass.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

As I said, read more, bloviate less and stop being an asshole spewing nothing but insults.

Why are you reading from the losing argument dumbass?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Flail? You're the jackass having to admit that the Supreme Court had to reverse a school system action, you dumbass.

The law did not change. The actions of a liberal school district were corrected. They violated the law, not the coach.

 

[westwall]

The law did not change. The actions of a liberal school district were corrected. They violated the law, not the coach.

I said, that if a Christian tries to do something in a school, leftoids lose their shit. You asked for an example and I gave you one.

Stop being intellectually dishonest.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I said, that if a Christian tries to do something in a school, leftoids lose their shit. You asked for an example and I gave you one.

Stop being intellectually dishonest.

Leftoids did not "lose their shit". Now, did they? That was a school board who fired him, was it not? Why are you so dishonest?

I am stating facts and you are making shit up! I am being honest and you are the one being intellectually dishonest.