The Most Successful Terrorist of the 20th Century

[georgephillip]

Since jews there had been classified as palestinians, we don't deny that, of course. In fact, we wholeheartedly agree!

Only Jews?

Ahummm.

All Jews, including those who opposed the creation of a Jewish State?

Ahummm. Until the establishment of Israel and for some ten years after palestinian had been an almost exclusive reference to jews. Arabs prefered to be just arabs, of course, so as not to be confused with'em jewz, I guess.

Are you proud to be a racist?

So, arabs differ racially from jews? Cool!

Be sure to mention that to Sami:

"Israeli culture is no less toxic than fanatic Islam, and the country's discriminatory attitude toward Mizrahi Jews and Arabs qualifies it for the title of 'most racist state,' prominent Israeli author Sami Michael said on Monday."

Author: Israel can claim the title of the most racist state in the developed world Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

 

[docmauser1]

Only Jews?

Ahummm.Ahummm. Until the establishment of Israel and for some ten years after palestinian had been an almost exclusive reference to jews. Arabs prefered to be just arabs, of course, so as not to be confused with'em jewz, I guess.

Are you proud to be a racist?

So, arabs differ racially from jews? Cool!

"Israeli culture is no less toxic than fanatic Islam, and the country's discriminatory attitude toward Mizrahi Jews and Arabs qualifies it for the title of 'most

We don't view drivel of half-crazed fringies worthy of consideration here, of course.

 

[ima]

Most of the people who call themselves "palestinians" could not be described as people with "roots" in palestine The people who, today, call themselves "palestinians" admit that THEY DEFINE as "palestinian" any person who has lived in or has a parent who had lived in "palestine" for two years or more. Based in that defintion I could call myself a REFUGEE FROM STATEN ISLAND I lived there for three years -------early in my life. I had an aunt-----who was BORN IN MERRY OLD ENGLAND but came to the USA with her mom at the age of two---------in fact her mom was born in Merry Old-----That is my paternal grandmother-------does that make me a REFUGEE FROM MERRY OLD ENGLAND?---- Bases on Gazan deifinitions of REFUGEE STATUS I have refugee status in at least a dozen countries (not staten island-----that is not even a city)

getting back to roots All jews have roots in Palestine/israel/judea as proven by the continued use of the only extant language developed in that land----to wit---Hebrew Most people who call themselves "palestinians" today, have linguistic roots in arabia
aka SAUDI ARABIA

Not many Israelis have actual roots in Palestine, most come from Europe, the US and Russia...
Just because I speak English doesn't mean I have roots in England. I don't. If I learn hebrew and convert, that wouldn't make have any roots in Palestine any more than i have now, which is none.

Your statistic as to the demographics of Israel is actually entirely false------you must have picked it up at the local mosque In fact THE MAJORITY OF JEWS NOW LIVING IN ISRAEL WERE BORN THERE as to REMOTE ancestral roots (well---take that to great grandparents Half of all israelis have such roots in countries that had been ----centuries ago invaded by the dogs of arabia -----ie north african countries now called "MUSLIM LAND"-----or some more remote places in asia now called 'MUSLIM" Jihadists always underplay the population of Israel which fled the filth of shariah

your concept of "ROOTS" is confusing Would you say that most people in the USA have ROOTS in the USA ? Only one of my grandparents was actually BORN in the USA

your comment of conversion is interesting If you converted to islam-----you would be able to become a citizen of the country which denies my husband citizenship despite the fact that HE was born there as were his parents and grandparents BACK DOZENS OF GENERATIONS In fact you would be able to visit Medina------which is barred to jews despite the fact that jews lived in and DOMINATED that city for more than 1000 years before the rapist pig of arabia was born. Did you know that MECCA once had a highly diverse population? christians, jews, zoroastrians ----and---uhm ---miscellaneous

Like i said, most Israeli Jews can trace their family history through Russia, the US, Europe and other places outside of Palestine. Thanks for agreeing with me.
All the white people in North America have roots outside of NA, mainly in Europe and Russia, some Asians more recently... All the so-called native indians in NA came from Asia themselves over 10,000 years ago. So we're a migrating people, all our family's histories eventually go back to Africa, where humans started, including arabs and Jews. So picking an arbitrary date in time and saying "3000 years ago we were in such and such a place, so that's where we belong" is pretty random.

 

[irosie91]

Not many Israelis have actual roots in Palestine, most come from Europe, the US and Russia...
Just because I speak English doesn't mean I have roots in England. I don't. If I learn hebrew and convert, that wouldn't make have any roots in Palestine any more than i have now, which is none.

Your statistic as to the demographics of Israel is actually entirely false------you must have picked it up at the local mosque In fact THE MAJORITY OF JEWS NOW LIVING IN ISRAEL WERE BORN THERE as to REMOTE ancestral roots (well---take that to great grandparents Half of all israelis have such roots in countries that had been ----centuries ago invaded by the dogs of arabia -----ie north african countries now called "MUSLIM LAND"-----or some more remote places in asia now called 'MUSLIM"
Jihadists always underplay the population of Israel which fled the filth of shariah

your concept of "ROOTS" is confusing Would you say that most people in the USA have ROOTS in the USA ? Only one of my grandparents was actually BORN in the USA

your comment of conversion is interesting If you converted to islam-----you would be able to become a citizen of the country which denies my husband citizenship despite the fact that HE was born there as were his parents and grandparents BACK DOZENS OF GENERATIONS In fact you would be able to visit Medina------which is barred to jews despite the fact that jews lived in and DOMINATED that city for more than 1000 years before the rapist pig of arabia was born. Did you know that MECCA once had a highly diverse population? christians, jews, zoroastrians ----and---uhm ---miscellaneous

Like i said, most Israeli Jews can trace their family history through Russia, the US, Europe and other places outside of Palestine. Thanks for agreeing with me.
All the white people in North America have roots outside of NA, mainly in Europe and Russia, some Asians more recently... All the so-called native indians in NA came from Asia themselves over 10,000 years ago. So we're a migrating people, all our family's histories eventually go back to Africa, where humans started, including arabs and Jews. So picking an arbitrary date in time and saying "3000 years ago we were in such and such a place, so that's where we belong" is pretty random.

Your comment is----as usual---useless "MOST ISRAELI JEWS" have some root in europe or some other place SO? most people who call themselves "palestinians" today have roots in some place OTHER THAN PALESTINE You made no point ----(as usual) eskimos have roots in asia lots of people lived in what is today saudi arabia -----but the fascist pigs you support allow ONLY THOSE WHO LICK THE STINK OF THE RAPIST PIG to be a citizen there Of all lands in the world there are only a few that LOGICALLY "belong" to a people One of them is INDIA which LOGICALLY BELONGS to HINDUS and the other is Israel which LOGICALLY BELONGS to jews since jews are the ONLY EXTANT PEOPLE who originated there and HINDUS ARE THE ONLY EXTANT people who originated in India (except for SIKHS who also originated there ----ie they should own ALL OF PUNJAB------and get rid of those pakistanis

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Not many Israelis have actual roots in Palestine, most come from Europe, the US and Russia...
Just because I speak English doesn't mean I have roots in England. I don't. If I learn hebrew and convert, that wouldn't make have any roots in Palestine any more than i have now, which is none.

Your statistic as to the demographics of Israel is actually entirely false------you must have picked it up at the local mosque In fact THE MAJORITY OF JEWS NOW LIVING IN ISRAEL WERE BORN THERE as to REMOTE ancestral roots (well---take that to great grandparents Half of all israelis have such roots in countries that had been ----centuries ago invaded by the dogs of arabia -----ie north african countries now called "MUSLIM LAND"-----or some more remote places in asia now called 'MUSLIM" Jihadists always underplay the population of Israel which fled the filth of shariah

your concept of "ROOTS" is confusing Would you say that most people in the USA have ROOTS in the USA ? Only one of my grandparents was actually BORN in the USA

your comment of conversion is interesting If you converted to islam-----you would be able to become a citizen of the country which denies my husband citizenship despite the fact that HE was born there as were his parents and grandparents BACK DOZENS OF GENERATIONS In fact you would be able to visit Medina------which is barred to jews despite the fact that jews lived in and DOMINATED that city for more than 1000 years before the rapist pig of arabia was born. Did you know that MECCA once had a highly diverse population? christians, jews, zoroastrians ----and---uhm ---miscellaneous

Like i said, most Israeli Jews can trace their family history through Russia, the US, Europe and other places outside of Palestine. Thanks for agreeing with me.
All the white people in North America have roots outside of NA, mainly in Europe and Russia, some Asians more recently... All the so-called native indians in NA came from Asia themselves over 10,000 years ago. So we're a migrating people, all our family's histories eventually go back to Africa, where humans started, including arabs and Jews. So picking an arbitrary date in time and saying "3000 years ago we were in such and such a place, so that's where we belong" is pretty random.

Like i said, most Israeli Jews can trace their family history through Russia, the US, Europe and other places outside of Palestine.

True. Jews moved to Russia, the US, Europe and other places.
Then some of them moved back to Israel.
Just as some Arabs moved from Saudi Arabia to Israel, Jordan, Syria and other places.
Now some of them should move back to Saudi Arabia.

 

[georgephillip]

Ahummm.Ahummm. Until the establishment of Israel and for some ten years after palestinian had been an almost exclusive reference to jews. Arabs prefered to be just arabs, of course, so as not to be confused with'em jewz, I guess.So, arabs differ racially from jews? Cool!

"Israeli culture is no less toxic than fanatic Islam, and the country's discriminatory attitude toward Mizrahi Jews and Arabs qualifies it for the title of 'most

We don't view drivel of half-crazed fringies worthy of consideration here, of course.

Do we view the Law of Return as a kind of affirmative action program?

"Israeli state racism is not typical western racism, meaning hostility to the dark-skinned or an irrational fear of them. Israeli racism and its famous weapon - demographic statistics - assume that Arab natural growth is 'a cancer in the body of the nation.'

"It posits that educating Arab children is dangerous, which is why they receive a lot less education than Jewish children get; it's why Arabs are discriminated against regarding water quotas for agriculture; it assumes that the higher infant mortality rate among Arabs is because 'they're slow,' and this 'slowness' of theirs hasn't changed in 64 years, because 'that's the way it is.'"

Israeli racism is embedded in daily politics of every state body - Israel News | Haaretz Daily Newspaper

 

[docmauser1]

"Israeli culture is no less toxic than fanatic Islam, and the country's discriminatory attitude toward Mizrahi Jews and Arabs qualifies it for the title of 'most

We don't view drivel of half-crazed fringies worthy of consideration here, of course.

Do we view the Law of Return as a kind of affirmative action program?

Oh, I like it. See, folks, the judophobes' collective of the world wants jews out, and when jews are, actually, out in where they came from, the same collective bitches jews can't go and be there. Judophobes better consult some professional care provider to get them unstuck in the cake paradox, of course.

"Israeli state racism is not typical western racism, ...

Israel isn't a Morsi dictatorship and Laor, is entitled to freedom of expression of his little fringie ideas, of course, that's what the leftist Haaretz is for. Do we take him seriously? Are we obliged to take him seriously? Of course, not.

 

[georgephillip]

Hear that FLUSHING SOUND, drivel?

"For first time, U.S. State Department defines settler violence as terrorism
In annual report on terrorism in foreign countries, U.S. government report defines so-called 'price-tag' attacks against Palestinians in the West Bank as acts of terror."

Say "hi" to Golda and Goring, for me.

For first time, U.S. State Department defines settler violence as terrorism Israel News - Haaretz Israeli News source.

 

[docmauser1]

"For first time, U.S. State Department defines settler violence as terrorism In annual report on terrorism in foreign countries, U.S. government report defines so-called 'price-tag' attacks against Palestinians in the West Bank as acts of terror."

They know-alls in the State should've known that palistanian oppression would, sooner or later, bring jewish reaction, of course.

 

[georgephillip]

"For first time, U.S. State Department defines settler violence as terrorism In annual report on terrorism in foreign countries, U.S. government report defines so-called 'price-tag' attacks against Palestinians in the West Bank as acts of terror."

They know-alls in the State should've known that palistanian oppression would, sooner or later, bring jewish reaction, of course.

Some Know-it-alls knew it all in 1948.
Recognizing Israel was a huge mistake at that time.
Now's a good time to rectify that mistake.

"Truman made the decision to recognize the establishment of the State of Israel over the objections of Secretary of State George Marshall, who feared it would hurt relations with the Arab states.[93]

"At a meeting in the White House on November 10, 1945, he told envoys to Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon and Egypt: 'I am sorry, gentlemen, but I have to answer to hundreds of thousands who are anxious for the success of Zionism: I do not have hundreds of thousands of Arabs among my constituents.'"[94]

"Rejecting Arab, British, and U.S. State Department warnings that Jewish immigration to Palestine and a Jewish state would destabilize the Middle East, Truman and Congress continued to support the establishment of a homeland for the Jewish people."

Harry S. Truman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[docmauser1]

"For first time, U.S. State Department defines settler violence as terrorism In annual report on terrorism in foreign countries, U.S. government report defines so-called 'price-tag' attacks against Palestinians in the West Bank as acts of terror."

They know-alls in the State should've known that palistanian oppression would, sooner or later, bring jewish reaction, of course.

Some Know-it-alls knew it all in 1948.

Elvis lives.

 

[georgephillip]

They know-alls in the State should've known that palistanian oppression would, sooner or later, bring jewish reaction, of course.

Some Know-it-alls knew it all in 1948.

Elvis lives.

Not to mention JFK (and Gore Vidal)

"Sometime in the late 1950s, that world-class gossip and occasional historian, John F. Kennedy, told me how, in 1948, Harry S. Truman had been pretty much abandoned by everyone when he came to run for president. Then an American Zionist brought him two million dollars in cash, in a suitcase, aboard his whistle-stop campaign train. 'That's why our recognition of Israel was rushed through so fast.' As neither Jack nor I was an antisemite (unlike his father..."

Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years

 

[docmauser1]

Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years

Shahak was a pathetic schmuck, indeed. It is very good he isn't emitting vile fumes anymore, at least, personally.

 

[georgephillip]

"While Shahak distrusted the influence of Judaism on Israeli politics during the 1950s, his activism against the Jewish faith began in earnest in the mid-1960s.

"In Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years (1994), Shahak recounts that his 'political activities as an Israeli Jew' were launched into the spotlight in 1965 when he 'personally witnessed an ultra-religious Jew refuse to allow his phone to be used on the Sabbath in order to call an ambulance for a non-Jew who happened to have collapsed in his Jerusalem neighborhood.'

"Shahak requested a meeting with the Rabbinical Court of Jerusalem, asking if these actions were in accordance with Judaic law.

"Angered by the Court’s “sanctimonious twaddle,” he reported the incident to the left-wing daily Haaretz, whose publication of a story about the incident led to a scandal in which secularists fiercely attacked the religious foundations of Israel."

Your link claims "secularists fiercely attacked the religious foundations of Israel."
Is that how you see it?

Israel Shahak - Discover the Networks

 

[SAYIT]

"For first time, U.S. State Department defines settler violence as terrorism In annual report on terrorism in foreign countries, U.S. government report defines so-called 'price-tag' attacks against Palestinians in the West Bank as acts of terror."

They know-alls in the State should've known that palistanian oppression would, sooner or later, bring jewish reaction, of course.

Some Know-it-alls knew it all in 1948.
Recognizing Israel was a huge mistake at that time.
Now's a good time to rectify that mistake.

What do you have in mind?

 

[SAYIT]

"While Shahak distrusted the influence of Judaism on Israeli politics during the 1950s, his activism against the Jewish faith began in earnest in the mid-1960s.

"In Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years (1994), Shahak recounts that his 'political activities as an Israeli Jew' were launched into the spotlight in 1965 when he 'personally witnessed an ultra-religious Jew refuse to allow his phone to be used on the Sabbath in order to call an ambulance for a non-Jew who happened to have collapsed in his Jerusalem neighborhood.'

"Shahak requested a meeting with the Rabbinical Court of Jerusalem, asking if these actions were in accordance with Judaic law.

"Angered by the Court’s “sanctimonious twaddle,” he reported the incident to the left-wing daily Haaretz, whose publication of a story about the incident led to a scandal in which secularists fiercely attacked the religious foundations of Israel."

Your link claims "secularists fiercely attacked the religious foundations of Israel."
Is that how you see it?

Israel Shahak - Discover the Networks

Shahak is still a big hit at "neo-Nazi and antisemitic websites such as Radio Islam and those of David Duke and Bradley Smith"
Israel Shahak - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Werner Cohn, Professor Emeritus of Sociology at the University of British Columbia criticizes specific statements in Jewish History, Jewish Religion as being without "any foundation." He accused Shahak of making "grotesque charges".[23] Werner Cohn writes:
"Dr. Shahak is full of startling revelations, if that is the word, about Jewish history and the Jewish religion. None of those I was able to check had any foundation...Some are just funny. He says (pp. 23-4) that "Jewish children are actually taught" to utter a ritual curse when passing a non-Jewish cemetery.[24] He also tells us (p. 34) that "both before and after a meal, a pious Jew ritually washes his hands... On one of these two occasions he is worshiping God... but on the other he is worshiping Satan..."
Israel Shahak - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Hossfly]

"While Shahak distrusted the influence of Judaism on Israeli politics during the 1950s, his activism against the Jewish faith began in earnest in the mid-1960s.

"In Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years (1994), Shahak recounts that his 'political activities as an Israeli Jew' were launched into the spotlight in 1965 when he 'personally witnessed an ultra-religious Jew refuse to allow his phone to be used on the Sabbath in order to call an ambulance for a non-Jew who happened to have collapsed in his Jerusalem neighborhood.'

"Shahak requested a meeting with the Rabbinical Court of Jerusalem, asking if these actions were in accordance with Judaic law.

"Angered by the Court’s “sanctimonious twaddle,” he reported the incident to the left-wing daily Haaretz, whose publication of a story about the incident led to a scandal in which secularists fiercely attacked the religious foundations of Israel."

Your link claims "secularists fiercely attacked the religious foundations of Israel."
Is that how you see it?

Israel Shahak - Discover the Networks

Shahak is still a big hit at "neo-Nazi and antisemitic websites such as Radio Islam and those of David Duke and Bradley Smith"
Israel Shahak - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Werner Cohn, Professor Emeritus of Sociology at the University of British Columbia criticizes specific statements in Jewish History, Jewish Religion as being without "any foundation." He accused Shahak of making "grotesque charges".[23] Werner Cohn writes:
"Dr. Shahak is full of startling revelations, if that is the word, about Jewish history and the Jewish religion. None of those I was able to check had any foundation...Some are just funny. He says (pp. 23-4) that "Jewish children are actually taught" to utter a ritual curse when passing a non-Jewish cemetery.[24] He also tells us (p. 34) that "both before and after a meal, a pious Jew ritually washes his hands... On one of these two occasions he is worshiping God... but on the other he is worshiping Satan..."
Israel Shahak - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Isn't it amusing Sayit how all the anti-Semites don't mind showing us that they read the hate sites for their "education" about the Jews? This is the only way they would even have heard of Shahak. In fact, there are probably very few readers of these message boards who even heard of this man until the anti-Semites went to town with the hate sites. Even the Muslims have brought him up like this Shahak was one of the most important men they learned about in their madrassas. All through the years on these message boards Shahak has been dragged up by these anti-Semites like George like he was one of their beloved Jews and they hang on to his every word.



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[georgephillip]

For the benefit of our benighted Conservative brethren, those of us who oppose the excesses of the Jewish State don't hate Jews--we hate illegal and immoral occupations like those in Afghanistan, Iraq, ( formerly South Vietnam), South Korea, and the West Bank and Gaza.

Possibly, whatever it is Conservatives base their morality on, it's not working.

 

[georgephillip]

They know-alls in the State should've known that palistanian oppression would, sooner or later, bring jewish reaction, of course.

Some Know-it-alls knew it all in 1948.
Recognizing Israel was a huge mistake at that time.
Now's a good time to rectify that mistake.

What do you have in mind?

I would suggest taking a page from the South Africa playbook:

"If international civil society is serious about urgently ending Israel’s violations of Palestinian rights, including ending the occupation, then suspension of SWIFT transactions to and from Israeli banks offers an instrument to help bring about a peaceful resolution of an intractable conflict..."

"Although access to New York banks remains essential for foreign exchange transactions because of the role of the dollar, interbank transfer instructions are conducted through the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT), which is based in Belgium. So, instead of New York — as in the period when sanctions were applied on South Africa– Belgium is now the pressure point.

'SWIFT links 8,740 financial institutions in 209 countries. Without access to SWIFT and its interbank payment network, countries are unable either to pay for imports or to receive payment for exports.

"In short, no payment — no trade."

Terry Crawford-Browne: To end the occupation, cripple Israeli banks | Israeli Occupation Archive

 

[SAYIT]

For the benefit of our benighted Conservative brethren, those of us who oppose the excesses of the Jewish State don't hate Jews--we hate illegal and immoral occupations like those in Afghanistan, Iraq, ( formerly South Vietnam), South Korea, and the West Bank and Gaza.

Possibly, whatever it is Conservatives base their morality on, it's not working.

I can assure you, GP, that many if not most of those who claim to "oppose the excesses of the Jewish State" are simply covering their hate for Jews with their oposition to Israel:

New antisemitism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"New antisemitism is the concept that a new form of antisemitism has developed in the late 20th and early 21st centuries, emanating simultaneously from the far-left, radical Islam, and the far-right, and tending to manifest itself as opposition to Zionism and the State of Israel...

Proponents of the concept argue that anti-Zionism, anti-Americanism, anti-globalization, third worldism, and demonization of Israel, or double standards applied to its conduct, may be linked to antisemitism, or constitute disguised antisemitism."