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.......nobody was executed
So, concentration camps are OK with you as long as no one is executed? Is that your standard?
Is Gitmo OK?
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.......nobody was executed
So, concentration camps are OK with you as long as no one is executed? Is that your standard?
PC's facts show that Wallace was a socialist populist, not a communist, at the end.
PC has a right to her opinion, but not to say her facts say what they do not.
We would have sided with Hitler and the world would be a vastly different place.FDR was the right man for the right time
Can you imagine where we would have been if Republicans had been allowed to lead us out of the depression or during WWII?
Republicans would have bitched about HItler but would have done nothing about him
They would have tied us up in interstate bickering about who was getting defense dollars and would not have been able to build an allied alliance
We would have fought as isolationists
Before the war, FDR and Hitler had quite an amiable relationship.
The National Socialists praised Roosevelt.
" Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48
Actually, they didn't
But why don't you fabricate some cut and pasted for us?
Everything you just wrote is a lie.....the same as your usual posts.
When I visited Hyde Park, I noted the Henry Wallace Library adjacent and attached to Roosevelt's.
Ironic, huh?
Roosevelt attached to the communist Henry Wallace in life and afterwards as well.
Let's see...
Rightwingnuts scream.......commie, commie, commie
Their rhetoric didn't work then, doesn't work now
But you didn't deny that Wallace was a communist.....
...nor that Roosevelt demanded Wallace as his vice-president after Garner....or he wouldn't run.
Yes.....he actually threatened not to run.
Come on PC
To you, everyone to the left of Nixon is a communist
Why can't you stick to the facts that I've posted?
Oh...right.....because they're facts.
Go ahead...challenge any of 'em.
You kind of lost me when you claimed they were facts. That is why I had to step in to rescue your thread
.......nobody was executed
So, concentration camps are OK with you as long as no one is executed? Is that your standard?
Is Gitmo OK?
We would have sided with Hitler and the world would be a vastly different place.FDR was the right man for the right time
Can you imagine where we would have been if Republicans had been allowed to lead us out of the depression or during WWII?
Republicans would have bitched about HItler but would have done nothing about him
They would have tied us up in interstate bickering about who was getting defense dollars and would not have been able to build an allied alliance
We would have fought as isolationists
Before the war, FDR and Hitler had quite an amiable relationship.
The National Socialists praised Roosevelt.
" Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48
Actually, they didn't
But why don't you fabricate some cut and pasted for us?
Actually they did.
My scholarship is unassailable....especially since you're an exposed liar.
- The National Socialists hailed these ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:
- May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”
- And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’
- And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”
- The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”
- In 1938, American ambassador Hugh R. Wilson reported to FDR his conversations with Hitler: “Hitler then said that he had watched with interest the methods which you, Mr. President, have been attempting to adopt for the United States…. I added that you were very much interested in certain phases of the sociological effort, notably for the youth and workmen, which is being made in Germany…” cited in “Franklin D. Roosevelt and Foreign Affairs,” vol.2, p. 27.
How ya' like that, boyyyyyeeeeee???
Let's see...
Rightwingnuts scream.......commie, commie, commie
Their rhetoric didn't work then, doesn't work now
But you didn't deny that Wallace was a communist.....
...nor that Roosevelt demanded Wallace as his vice-president after Garner....or he wouldn't run.
Yes.....he actually threatened not to run.
Come on PC
To you, everyone to the left of Nixon is a communist
Why can't you stick to the facts that I've posted?
Oh...right.....because they're facts.
Go ahead...challenge any of 'em.
You kind of lost me when you claimed they were facts. That is why I had to step in to rescue your thread
You haven't been able to deny any.
We would have sided with Hitler and the world would be a vastly different place.
Republicans would have bitched about HItler but would have done nothing about him
They would have tied us up in interstate bickering about who was getting defense dollars and would not have been able to build an allied alliance
We would have fought as isolationists
Before the war, FDR and Hitler had quite an amiable relationship.
The National Socialists praised Roosevelt.
" Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."
Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48
Actually, they didn't
But why don't you fabricate some cut and pasted for us?
Actually they did.
My scholarship is unassailable....especially since you're an exposed liar.
- The National Socialists hailed these ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:
- May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”
- And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’
- And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”
- The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”
- In 1938, American ambassador Hugh R. Wilson reported to FDR his conversations with Hitler: “Hitler then said that he had watched with interest the methods which you, Mr. President, have been attempting to adopt for the United States…. I added that you were very much interested in certain phases of the sociological effort, notably for the youth and workmen, which is being made in Germany…” cited in “Franklin D. Roosevelt and Foreign Affairs,” vol.2, p. 27.
How ya' like that, boyyyyyeeeeee???
True to form......PC responds with cut and pasted that do nothing to prove FDR and Hitler had a close relationship
Rinse, repeat
Post more irrelevant cut and pastes
But you didn't deny that Wallace was a communist.....
...nor that Roosevelt demanded Wallace as his vice-president after Garner....or he wouldn't run.
Yes.....he actually threatened not to run.
Come on PC
To you, everyone to the left of Nixon is a communist
Why can't you stick to the facts that I've posted?
Oh...right.....because they're facts.
Go ahead...challenge any of 'em.
You kind of lost me when you claimed they were facts. That is why I had to step in to rescue your thread
You haven't been able to deny any.
Where would your silly cut and pastes be without me to rescue your thread?
The US military was always cut to the bone after wars....until after WWII...Can you imagine the disaster if it was Republicans who had to restructure us into a wartime economy with their states rights and isolationist philosophies?
FDR was the right man for the right time
What nonsense.
- FDR did very little for the Army either with its size or weapons and during the 1930s, his defense budgets were cut to the bone.
- To quote George Marshall's words to FDR in May 1940: "If you don't do something...and do it right away, I don't know what is going to happen to this country". FDR had underestimated the Japanese and the Pearl Harbor attack devastated the American Navy and exposed the president's incompetence.
Wallace was an unreconstructed liberal reformer and New Dealer, qualities that recommended him to Roosevelt. The old guard Democratic Party bosses deeply distrusted Wallace as an apostate Republican and as a doe-eyed mystic who symbolized all that they found objectionable about [what they saw as] the hopelessly utopian, market-manipulating, bureaucracy-breeding New DealWallace began as a right wing populist and ended up a populist socialist. Use terms correctly, PC.
And "Discussion in 'History' started by PoliticalChic, Today at 7:21 AM."
It's tough to be PC.
I feel guilty showing everyone that you are a lying imbecile....it's just too darn easy.
1. Henry Wallace, 1940-1944. “America’s main enemy was Churchill and the British Empire.” He insisted that peace would be assured “if the United States guaranteed Stalin control of Eastern Europe.” (Ronad Radosh, “Progressively Worse,” The New Republic, June 12, 2000) When Stalin seized Czechoslovakia, Wallace sided with Stalin. When Stalin blockaded Berlin, Wallace opposed the Berlin Airlift. After visiting a Soviet slave camp, Wallace enthusiastically described it a s a “combination TVA and Hudson Bay Company.” Ibid,
2. In 1948, at the apex of Moscow-directed subversion of US politics, FDR’s VP Henry Wallace, former Sec’y of Agriculture, to form the Communist-dominated and Soviet-backed “Progressive Party.” Of course, Wallace’s “Progressives” allowed not even the most peripheral criticism of Soviet aggression.(John Patrick Diggins, “Good Intentions,” The National Interest, Fall, 2000)
The progressives received one million votes. The Communist Party USA did not field a presidential candidate, and instead endorsed Wallace for President. (Progressive Party United States 1948 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
3. Wallace met personally with KGB agents. (Allen Weinstein and Alexander Vassiliev, Haunted Woods, p. 119)
4.“…several prominent journalists, including H.L. Mencken and Dorothy Thompson, publicly charged that Wallace and the Progressives were under the covert control of Communists. Wallace was endorsed by the Communist Party (USA), and his subsequent refusal to publicly disavow any Communist support cost him the backing of many anti-Communist liberals and socialists…” (Henry A. Wallace - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
5. In his diary, Wallace, whose view of the future of America required Soviet-style Communism, wrote that FDR had assured him that he was a few years ahead of his time, but that his vision for American would “inevitably come.” (John Patrick Diggins, “Good Intentions,” The National Interest, Fall, 2000)
And this, you fool:
6. “Henry Wallace, vice-president during Roosevelt’s third term in office (1941-1945), said later that if the ailing Roosevelt had died during that period and he had become President, it had been his intention to make Duggan his Secretary of State and White his Secretary of Treasury…The fact that Roosevelt survived into…a fourth term…deprived Soviet intelligence of what would have been its most spectacular success in penetrating a major Western government.”
‘The Sword and the Shield: The Mitrokhin Archives, the History of the KGB,” by Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin.p. 107-108
If FDR had not been reelected would he still have taken office? Is there any evidence the FDR elections were rigged ala a dictatorship? Have Republicans ever charged the elections were rigged? In any case, the people voted for FDR four times, and that's a record that will stand for some time. Add to that, historians voting him best president in our history and that's gotta hurt.The biggie, however, for those historians, that now see the light, is to explain why the American people voted for FDR four times. Will the commie thing cover all those millions of people?
Many dictators have been reelected over and over.
Wallace was an unreconstructed liberal reformer and New Dealer, qualities that recommended him to Roosevelt. The old guard Democratic Party bosses deeply distrusted Wallace as an apostate Republican and as a doe-eyed mystic who symbolized all that they found objectionable about [what they saw as] the hopelessly utopian, market-manipulating, bureaucracy-breeding New DealWallace began as a right wing populist and ended up a populist socialist. Use terms correctly, PC.
And "Discussion in 'History' started by PoliticalChic, Today at 7:21 AM."
It's tough to be PC.
I feel guilty showing everyone that you are a lying imbecile....it's just too darn easy.
1. Henry Wallace, 1940-1944. “America’s main enemy was Churchill and the British Empire.” He insisted that peace would be assured “if the United States guaranteed Stalin control of Eastern Europe.” (Ronad Radosh, “Progressively Worse,” The New Republic, June 12, 2000) When Stalin seized Czechoslovakia, Wallace sided with Stalin. When Stalin blockaded Berlin, Wallace opposed the Berlin Airlift. After visiting a Soviet slave camp, Wallace enthusiastically described it a s a “combination TVA and Hudson Bay Company.” Ibid,
2. In 1948, at the apex of Moscow-directed subversion of US politics, FDR’s VP Henry Wallace, former Sec’y of Agriculture, to form the Communist-dominated and Soviet-backed “Progressive Party.” Of course, Wallace’s “Progressives” allowed not even the most peripheral criticism of Soviet aggression.(John Patrick Diggins, “Good Intentions,” The National Interest, Fall, 2000)
The progressives received one million votes. The Communist Party USA did not field a presidential candidate, and instead endorsed Wallace for President. (Progressive Party United States 1948 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
3. Wallace met personally with KGB agents. (Allen Weinstein and Alexander Vassiliev, Haunted Woods, p. 119)
4.“…several prominent journalists, including H.L. Mencken and Dorothy Thompson, publicly charged that Wallace and the Progressives were under the covert control of Communists. Wallace was endorsed by the Communist Party (USA), and his subsequent refusal to publicly disavow any Communist support cost him the backing of many anti-Communist liberals and socialists…” (Henry A. Wallace - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
5. In his diary, Wallace, whose view of the future of America required Soviet-style Communism, wrote that FDR had assured him that he was a few years ahead of his time, but that his vision for American would “inevitably come.” (John Patrick Diggins, “Good Intentions,” The National Interest, Fall, 2000)
And this, you fool:
6. “Henry Wallace, vice-president during Roosevelt’s third term in office (1941-1945), said later that if the ailing Roosevelt had died during that period and he had become President, it had been his intention to make Duggan his Secretary of State and White his Secretary of Treasury…The fact that Roosevelt survived into…a fourth term…deprived Soviet intelligence of what would have been its most spectacular success in penetrating a major Western government.”
‘The Sword and the Shield: The Mitrokhin Archives, the History of the KGB,” by Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin.p. 107-108
Kennedy, Freedom from Fear, p. 457.
If FDR had not been reelected would he still have taken office? Is there any evidence the FDR elections were rigged ala a dictatorship? Have Republicans ever charged the elections were rigged? In any case, the people voted for FDR four times, and that's a record that will stand for some time. Add to that, historians voting him best president in our history and that's gotta hurt.The biggie, however, for those historians, that now see the light, is to explain why the American people voted for FDR four times. Will the commie thing cover all those millions of people?
Many dictators have been reelected over and over.
And he was a republican, something you seem in denial about...Wallace was an unreconstructed liberal reformer and New Dealer, qualities that recommended him to Roosevelt. The old guard Democratic Party bosses deeply distrusted Wallace as an apostate Republican and as a doe-eyed mystic who symbolized all that they found objectionable about [what they saw as] the hopelessly utopian, market-manipulating, bureaucracy-breeding New DealWallace began as a right wing populist and ended up a populist socialist. Use terms correctly, PC.
And "Discussion in 'History' started by PoliticalChic, Today at 7:21 AM."
It's tough to be PC.
I feel guilty showing everyone that you are a lying imbecile....it's just too darn easy.
1. Henry Wallace, 1940-1944. “America’s main enemy was Churchill and the British Empire.” He insisted that peace would be assured “if the United States guaranteed Stalin control of Eastern Europe.” (Ronad Radosh, “Progressively Worse,” The New Republic, June 12, 2000) When Stalin seized Czechoslovakia, Wallace sided with Stalin. When Stalin blockaded Berlin, Wallace opposed the Berlin Airlift. After visiting a Soviet slave camp, Wallace enthusiastically described it a s a “combination TVA and Hudson Bay Company.” Ibid,
2. In 1948, at the apex of Moscow-directed subversion of US politics, FDR’s VP Henry Wallace, former Sec’y of Agriculture, to form the Communist-dominated and Soviet-backed “Progressive Party.” Of course, Wallace’s “Progressives” allowed not even the most peripheral criticism of Soviet aggression.(John Patrick Diggins, “Good Intentions,” The National Interest, Fall, 2000)
The progressives received one million votes. The Communist Party USA did not field a presidential candidate, and instead endorsed Wallace for President. (Progressive Party United States 1948 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
3. Wallace met personally with KGB agents. (Allen Weinstein and Alexander Vassiliev, Haunted Woods, p. 119)
4.“…several prominent journalists, including H.L. Mencken and Dorothy Thompson, publicly charged that Wallace and the Progressives were under the covert control of Communists. Wallace was endorsed by the Communist Party (USA), and his subsequent refusal to publicly disavow any Communist support cost him the backing of many anti-Communist liberals and socialists…” (Henry A. Wallace - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
5. In his diary, Wallace, whose view of the future of America required Soviet-style Communism, wrote that FDR had assured him that he was a few years ahead of his time, but that his vision for American would “inevitably come.” (John Patrick Diggins, “Good Intentions,” The National Interest, Fall, 2000)
And this, you fool:
6. “Henry Wallace, vice-president during Roosevelt’s third term in office (1941-1945), said later that if the ailing Roosevelt had died during that period and he had become President, it had been his intention to make Duggan his Secretary of State and White his Secretary of Treasury…The fact that Roosevelt survived into…a fourth term…deprived Soviet intelligence of what would have been its most spectacular success in penetrating a major Western government.”
‘The Sword and the Shield: The Mitrokhin Archives, the History of the KGB,” by Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin.p. 107-108
Kennedy, Freedom from Fear, p. 457.
He was a communist.
You, an apologist.
And he was a republican, something you seem in denial about...Wallace was an unreconstructed liberal reformer and New Dealer, qualities that recommended him to Roosevelt. The old guard Democratic Party bosses deeply distrusted Wallace as an apostate Republican and as a doe-eyed mystic who symbolized all that they found objectionable about [what they saw as] the hopelessly utopian, market-manipulating, bureaucracy-breeding New DealWallace began as a right wing populist and ended up a populist socialist. Use terms correctly, PC.
And "Discussion in 'History' started by PoliticalChic, Today at 7:21 AM."
It's tough to be PC.
I feel guilty showing everyone that you are a lying imbecile....it's just too darn easy.
1. Henry Wallace, 1940-1944. “America’s main enemy was Churchill and the British Empire.” He insisted that peace would be assured “if the United States guaranteed Stalin control of Eastern Europe.” (Ronad Radosh, “Progressively Worse,” The New Republic, June 12, 2000) When Stalin seized Czechoslovakia, Wallace sided with Stalin. When Stalin blockaded Berlin, Wallace opposed the Berlin Airlift. After visiting a Soviet slave camp, Wallace enthusiastically described it a s a “combination TVA and Hudson Bay Company.” Ibid,
2. In 1948, at the apex of Moscow-directed subversion of US politics, FDR’s VP Henry Wallace, former Sec’y of Agriculture, to form the Communist-dominated and Soviet-backed “Progressive Party.” Of course, Wallace’s “Progressives” allowed not even the most peripheral criticism of Soviet aggression.(John Patrick Diggins, “Good Intentions,” The National Interest, Fall, 2000)
The progressives received one million votes. The Communist Party USA did not field a presidential candidate, and instead endorsed Wallace for President. (Progressive Party United States 1948 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
3. Wallace met personally with KGB agents. (Allen Weinstein and Alexander Vassiliev, Haunted Woods, p. 119)
4.“…several prominent journalists, including H.L. Mencken and Dorothy Thompson, publicly charged that Wallace and the Progressives were under the covert control of Communists. Wallace was endorsed by the Communist Party (USA), and his subsequent refusal to publicly disavow any Communist support cost him the backing of many anti-Communist liberals and socialists…” (Henry A. Wallace - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
5. In his diary, Wallace, whose view of the future of America required Soviet-style Communism, wrote that FDR had assured him that he was a few years ahead of his time, but that his vision for American would “inevitably come.” (John Patrick Diggins, “Good Intentions,” The National Interest, Fall, 2000)
And this, you fool:
6. “Henry Wallace, vice-president during Roosevelt’s third term in office (1941-1945), said later that if the ailing Roosevelt had died during that period and he had become President, it had been his intention to make Duggan his Secretary of State and White his Secretary of Treasury…The fact that Roosevelt survived into…a fourth term…deprived Soviet intelligence of what would have been its most spectacular success in penetrating a major Western government.”
‘The Sword and the Shield: The Mitrokhin Archives, the History of the KGB,” by Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin.p. 107-108
Kennedy, Freedom from Fear, p. 457.
He was a communist.
You, an apologist.
That's not how the conservative democrats saw him, but you would know better since you were alive then.....And he was a republican, something you seem in denial about...Wallace was an unreconstructed liberal reformer and New Dealer, qualities that recommended him to Roosevelt. The old guard Democratic Party bosses deeply distrusted Wallace as an apostate Republican and as a doe-eyed mystic who symbolized all that they found objectionable about [what they saw as] the hopelessly utopian, market-manipulating, bureaucracy-breeding New DealWallace began as a right wing populist and ended up a populist socialist. Use terms correctly, PC.
And "Discussion in 'History' started by PoliticalChic, Today at 7:21 AM."
It's tough to be PC.
I feel guilty showing everyone that you are a lying imbecile....it's just too darn easy.
1. Henry Wallace, 1940-1944. “America’s main enemy was Churchill and the British Empire.” He insisted that peace would be assured “if the United States guaranteed Stalin control of Eastern Europe.” (Ronad Radosh, “Progressively Worse,” The New Republic, June 12, 2000) When Stalin seized Czechoslovakia, Wallace sided with Stalin. When Stalin blockaded Berlin, Wallace opposed the Berlin Airlift. After visiting a Soviet slave camp, Wallace enthusiastically described it a s a “combination TVA and Hudson Bay Company.” Ibid,
2. In 1948, at the apex of Moscow-directed subversion of US politics, FDR’s VP Henry Wallace, former Sec’y of Agriculture, to form the Communist-dominated and Soviet-backed “Progressive Party.” Of course, Wallace’s “Progressives” allowed not even the most peripheral criticism of Soviet aggression.(John Patrick Diggins, “Good Intentions,” The National Interest, Fall, 2000)
The progressives received one million votes. The Communist Party USA did not field a presidential candidate, and instead endorsed Wallace for President. (Progressive Party United States 1948 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
3. Wallace met personally with KGB agents. (Allen Weinstein and Alexander Vassiliev, Haunted Woods, p. 119)
4.“…several prominent journalists, including H.L. Mencken and Dorothy Thompson, publicly charged that Wallace and the Progressives were under the covert control of Communists. Wallace was endorsed by the Communist Party (USA), and his subsequent refusal to publicly disavow any Communist support cost him the backing of many anti-Communist liberals and socialists…” (Henry A. Wallace - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
5. In his diary, Wallace, whose view of the future of America required Soviet-style Communism, wrote that FDR had assured him that he was a few years ahead of his time, but that his vision for American would “inevitably come.” (John Patrick Diggins, “Good Intentions,” The National Interest, Fall, 2000)
And this, you fool:
6. “Henry Wallace, vice-president during Roosevelt’s third term in office (1941-1945), said later that if the ailing Roosevelt had died during that period and he had become President, it had been his intention to make Duggan his Secretary of State and White his Secretary of Treasury…The fact that Roosevelt survived into…a fourth term…deprived Soviet intelligence of what would have been its most spectacular success in penetrating a major Western government.”
‘The Sword and the Shield: The Mitrokhin Archives, the History of the KGB,” by Christopher Andrew and Vasili Mitrokhin.p. 107-108
Kennedy, Freedom from Fear, p. 457.
He was a communist.
You, an apologist.
False.
As usual, you are wrong.
He was a Democrat.
"Although his family had consistently supported the Republican Party, Wallace broke with the party in 1928....he joined the Democratic Party...."
Henry A. Wallace biography - vice president of United States Encyclopedia Britannica
In any case, the people voted for FDR four times, and that's a record that will stand for some time....