The Lie of 9-11 and it's after effects

My theory is just so much more logical and well put together than yours...
Mine answers the, who what when where and why. Yours does not. Mine is intellectual discernment. Yours is in left field...
 
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Irish, saying that you are intellectually dishonest is not saying you are lying.

Being intellectually dishonest simply means you refuse to look at information and facts that challenge your positions.

You posted a New York Times article that you thought would disprove my contention that the original, unmodified passenger planes did not hit the towers.

I read the article, in good faith, and reported back to you that it simply did not say what you thought it it said - that seemed to insult your pride and pissed you off enough for you to take your ball and go home.

The difference between those of us who have arrived at vastly different conclusions than you, is that we consider all positions.

I read your article, conversely you refuse to watch a short 14 minute segment of a documentary I provided to you.

I'm willing to hear you out, yet you refuse to consider anything outside your preconceived understanding.

That is why I, and many others on here consider you to be intellectually dishonest. Doesn't mean we think you're lying. Just means your locked into a position and refuse to consider anymore information.

As you said, there's nowhere left to go in discussion and debate with someone who refuses to honestly consider other points of view.

I'll give you another chance to review a considered opinion. The video between 1:27-1:40.



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well said,could not have said it any better myself.:thup:yeah she is a hypocrite,you take the time to do the courtesy of reading one of her articles yet SHE refuses to watch an excellent video that exposes the 9/11 coverup,

yeah she refused to look at two of my videos that exposed the coverup as well. she wants us to look at HER material,but she WONT look at OUR material like videos and articles like what truth has posted in his op.:uhoh3:******* hypocrite.if thats not being a hypocrite i dont know what is. you totally hit it on the nail that she refuses to consider other points of view different than hers. I bet she only behaves like this on the net but not in real life with others that have a different viewpoint than her own,if she does act the same way off the computer,then I seriously doubt she has any friends.people dont like to be tuned out as she has with us.

she clearly never has learned how to debate.she goes around and asks irrelevent questions HOW it was pulled off when the ONLY thing that matter is the EVIDENCE that we have presented that an airliner did not hit the pentagon that day and it was explosives that brought the towers down,that it wasnt the planes that hit the towers that brought them down and yet even though NONE of us ever said there were not airliners that hit the towers she goes and says we said none did when all we ever said was they did not hit the pentagon.:uhoh3:


thats typical of how the Bush dupes debate.


I only bothered with her because she is not a paid shill from langley as candyass is and does not defend ALL government version of events as he does. more than likely one of those people i mentioned earlier who can accept facts the CIA killed kennedy but 9/11 hits too close to home for her which is why she refuses to acknowledge facts and look at the involvement of the CIA and mossad.
 
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Much like yourself, Gioia (sp?) didn't ever offer the "overwhelming evidence".

Are you ever going to tell us what the commission report got wrong? You keep saying the government's version isn't correct but won't tell us what they got wrongthat hearing.
Son,....Post All of the Data about that Case.
Post how Attorney General Barr's Office not picked the presentation of the complaint, without addressing the merits of the case.
That's as far as the case went, It was not stopped on the merits of the Evidence!

Furthermore, Trump, Barr, & the vast majority of both Polucal Parties, have No Interest, in having the Fire Commissioners/Ae911 groups present their Data before a Court.
 
Son,....Post All of the Data about that Case.
Post how Attorney General Barr's Office not picked the presentation of the complaint, without addressing the merits of the case.
That's as far as the case went, It was not stopped on the merits of the Evidence!

Furthermore, Trump, Barr, & the vast majority of both Polucal Parties, have No Interest, in having the Fire Commissioners/Ae911 groups present their Data before a Court.

Loser said what?
 
Loser said what?
"UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA

THE LAWYERS’ COMMITTEE FOR 9/11 INQUIRY, INC., et al., Plaintiffs, v. CHRISTOPHER A. WRAY, et al., Defendants.

Case No. 1:19-cv-00824 (TNM)

MEMORANDUM OPINION

Two organizations and one individual seek an order requiring the FBI to evaluate and report on certain evidence related to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. In their view, Congress directed the FBI to report on evidence that the 9/11 Commission did not consider. They believe the FBI violated this mandate. The Government moves to dismiss for lack of standing and on other grounds. The Court agrees that Plaintiffs lack standing, so the Court will grant the Government’s motion and dismiss the case. I. In 2002, Congress established the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (“National 9/11 Commission”). First Am. Compl. ¶ 3, ECF No. 11. That Commission concluded that Osama bin Laden and other Islamic extremists were responsible for the attacks.1 Plaintiffs find this conclusion wanting. They believe, for example, that “pre1 Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, Executive Summary 3 (July 22, 2004), https://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report_Exec.pdf. placed” explosives caused the World Trade Center buildings to collapse. Id. ¶¶ 11, 33. They also suspect “malfeasance” on the part of the United States government. Id. ¶ 15. One plaintiff is the Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry (“Lawyers’ Committee”). Id. ¶ 10. Its mission is “to promote transparency and accountability” about the events of September 11. Id. It believes that family members of the victims have a right to know the “full truth” of what happened that day. Id. Another plaintiff is the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth (“Architects”). Id. ¶ 13. It seeks to educate the public about the “true reasons” for the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings. Id. The final plaintiff is Robert McIlvaine. Id. ¶ 15. He is the father of Bobby McIlvaine, a victim of the attack on the World Trade Center. Id. The relevant legal background starts with the National 9/11 Commission’s 2004 report. Besides assigning responsibility for the attacks, it made recommendations to the FBI and other agencies on how to prevent future attacks.2 Nine years later, Congress allotted $500,000 “for a comprehensive review of the implementation of the recommendations related to the [FBI] that were proposed in the report issued by the [National 9/11 Commission].” Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act, 2013, Pub. L. No. 113-6, 127 Stat. 198, 247 (2013). Plaintiffs believe that this provision “imposed a mandatory duty” on the FBI to assess and report on evidence that the National 9/11 Commission did not consider. First Am. Compl. ¶ 7. In response to this legislation, the FBI Director formed a body called the 9/11 Review Commission. See Mot. to Dismiss Ex. 1 at 5 & n.1,3 ECF No. 12-2. It released its own report in 2015. Id. at 2. One chapter of that report discussed some evidence that the National 9/11 Commission did not consider. Id. at 102. But it ultimately concluded that “no new information 2 3 Executive Summary, supra note 1, at 16–26. All page citations are to the page numbers that the CM/ECF system generates. 2 obtained since the . . . 2004 report would change the [National 9/11 Commission’s] findings regarding responsibilities for the 9/11 attacks.” Id. at 109. Plaintiffs allege that the Review Commission failed to “fully comply” with the 2013 appropriations act. First Am. Compl. ¶ 7. They acknowledge that the Review Commission investigated some new evidence. Id. ¶ 28. But they complain it “failed to assess and report to Congress, as mandated, several other categories of significant 9/11 related evidence known to the FBI.” Id. ¶ 29. For Plaintiffs, full compliance means that the FBI must report on the seven categories of evidence that they list in their causes of action. Id. ¶ 127. These categories include evidence “related to use of pre-placed explosives” (Count I) and “evidence regarding the arrest and investigation of the ‘high-fivers’ observed and self-photographed celebrating the attacks” (Count II). Id. at 11, 24. Plaintiffs bring their claims under the Administrative Procedure Act and the mandamus statute, 28 U.S.C. § 1361. Id. ¶ 1. II. Article III of the Constitution limits the jurisdiction of federal courts to “actual cases or controversies.” Spokeo, Inc. v. Robins, 136 S. Ct. 1540, 1547 (2016). One component of the case-or-controversy requirement is standing to sue. Id. A plaintiff bears the burden of showing that he has “(1) suffered an injury in fact, (2) that is fairly traceable to the challenged conduct of the defendant, and (3) that is likely to be redressed by a favorable judicial decision.” Id. At the pleading stage, the plaintiff “must clearly allege facts demonstrating each element.” Id. (cleaned up). Courts grant plaintiffs the benefit of all reasonable inferences from the allegations, but they will not accept inferences that the facts do not support. Arpaio v. Obama, 797 F.3d 11, 19 (D.C. Cir. 2015). 3 This case involves informational standing and organizational standing. The foundational case for informational standing is FEC v. Akins, 524 U.S. 11 (1998). The Supreme Court explained that a plaintiff suffers injury in fact when he “fails to obtain information which must be publicly disclosed pursuant to a statute.” Id. at 21. The statute must “seek to protect [plaintiffs] from the kind of harm they say they have suffered.” Id. at 22. An organization can assert standing on its own behalf or on behalf of its members. EPIC v. U.S. Dep’t of Commerce, 928 F.3d 95, 100 (D.C. Cir. 2019). The former is “organizational standing” and the latter is “associational standing.” Id. An entity asserting organizational standing, like an individual plaintiff, must show that it has suffered injury traceable to the defendant and redressable by a favorable judicial decision. Equal Rights Ctr. v. Post Props., Inc., 633 F.3d 1136, 1138 (D.C. Cir. 2011). The Government moves to dismiss the First Amended Complaint based on lack of standing and failure to state a claim. See Mot. to Dismiss at 1–2, ECF No. 12. This motion is ripe. Lack of standing is a basis for dismissal under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 12(b)(1). Commonwealth v. U.S. Dep’t of Educ., 340 F. Supp. 3d 7, 18 (D.D.C. 2018). If dismissal is proper under Rule 12(b)(1), the Court cannot resolve the alternative arguments for dismissal under Rule 12(b)(6). Id. at 18 & n.3."


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That's great, now you can tell me where all the passengers were gassed and ovened, where the fake planes/drones were built, and how much the pilot's families were paid when the pilots were talked into the suicide mission, why Boeing lied when they said they found airplane parts in the tower debris, and how the world was tricked into believing that they saw planes and not drones. Who built the gas chamber, and were they then gassed to stop any rumors? And that pesky DNA of some of the crew that was found on the crash site....
Just to get past the myth that a plane can't do that, here's one doing that:


How low can they go at top speed?

Regale us with your truths, Pete...


No I can't answer all those silly questions, but I can tell you that the Official Narrative is intellectually bankrupt. Obviously, intellect and critical thinking are not in your skill sets.
 
LA can't answer anything and has been reduced to kindergarten insults and emojis.
I don't think there are too many people that do believe the official version.
Thing is, I can answer all the "silly" questions that elude you Pete, by using intellect and critical thinking...
 
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Irish, it's rapidly becoming apparent, that You like Candycorn, are participating in this topic, for no other reason than to create Chaos.

Ypu've only recently shown that You do not accept the "Official Narrative", but when U don't get Your answers about the "Bodies",..... You then make the majority of Data posted a Lie.

Respectfully,.... I want You & Candycorn at the least to stop participating in this topic.
 
And a Heads Up here,..... I'm having Major Problems with Frontier Communications keeping my "AOL Speed Internet" running, since I've confronted them about being charged for Broadband.

Frontier has "Pulsed" my Internet erratically where it works every other minute, to where it will work for a full day, & then quit again.

I'm actually SHOCKED that I've been able to post this.

So,.... If Ya'll don't hear from me, within a 24 hour period, it's Cuz' Frontier has Failed Again.
 
And a Heads Up here,..... I'm having Major Problems with Frontier Communications keeping my "AOL Speed Internet" running, since I've confronted them about being charged for Broadband.

Frontier has "Pulsed" my Internet erratically where it works every other minute, to where it will work for a full day, & then quit again.

I'm actually SHOCKED that I've been able to post this.

So,.... If Ya'll don't hear from me, within a 24 hour period, it's Cuz' Frontier has Failed Again.

I speak for everyone...you won't be missed.

You've managed to post 970 messages and haven't said a damn thing.
 
Irish, it's rapidly becoming apparent, that You like Candycorn, are participating in this topic, for no other reason than to create Chaos.

Ypu've only recently shown that You do not accept the "Official Narrative", but when U don't get Your answers about the "Bodies",..... You then make the majority of Data posted a Lie.

Respectfully,.... I want You & Candycorn at the least to stop participating in this topic.
I just asked you to explain what took down the lightpoles if it wasn't AA77.

You responded with some nonsenese about "what are they made of" and didn't address what took them down.

If you can't address the physical evidence....you're not much of a commentator.

PS: Nobody cares what you want.
 
LA can't answer anything and has been reduced to kindergarten insults and emojis.
I don't think there are too many people that do believe the official version.
Thing is, I can answer all the "silly" questions that elude you Pete, by using intellect and critical thinking...
I've yet to see any major point the 9/11 commission report got wrong.
 
Irish, it's rapidly becoming apparent, that You like Candycorn, are participating in this topic, for no other reason than to create Chaos.

Ypu've only recently shown that You do not accept the "Official Narrative", but when U don't get Your answers about the "Bodies",..... You then make the majority of Data posted a Lie.

Respectfully,.... I want You & Candycorn at the least to stop participating in this topic.
It is clear what you call chaos is someone challening your silly conspiracy theories

You just want an un challenged echo chamber
 
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15-20 years ago there were several videos on YouTube with footage of pre-collapse explosions rocking the lower floors. Massive explosions that obviously had nothing to do with jet fuel and damage 90+ floors above.

There was also credible eyewitness testimony of pre-collapse explosions in the mechanical spaces under the WTC buildings.

Of course all of those videos and related content have been scrubbed from the internet and vanished into the ether.
 

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