The Lefts War on Christianity

[theDoctorisIn]

Another contard made up lie

We do not war on Christianity, many of us are Christians.

We just war on filthy contards and their perversion of the religion.

When will contards start following the teachings of Christ and stop the war on science?

Please do tell us more about your Christian faith.

Give us your testimony on how Christ is the savior of the world.

How he came down to earth and was son of God and the lamb of God sacrificed to end all other sacrifices.

Go ahead now. Get to it.

You won't, because you're a leftist ****** liar. STFU.

Your opinion, most of the people in the world do not believe as you do.

However, a majority of America does.

As do Coptic Christians in other countries even. Do you believe in anything so strongly that you'd be willing to die for it?

I do.

This is where Christians have an edge on Atheists and Muslims.

If nothing else, I feel that the last 30 years or so have proven quite thoroughly that quite a few Muslims around the world are in fact "willing to die" for their beliefs.

Blowing yourself up in order to murder children is very different than standing up for your faith and having your throat slit for it.

From my perspective as an atheist, they seem pretty similar to me.

Both involve sacrificing your life for a system of beliefs and faith.

 

[deanrd]

The left only hate Christianity, which in itself validates it is the one true faith. Any other religion can do whatever because they are false religions. Case in point. Los Angeles County was sued because of a tiny cross on their County Seal. The City of the Angels was founded as a mission, how dare the image of a mission have a cross on it!

So thank you leftists for validating Christianity is the one true faith.

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You mean the right’s war on traditional Christianity.
The left doesn’t support “let him die” or “feed the poor and they will breed” or adult men dating children. This is where Republicans are. Not Democrats.

 

[Marion Morrison]

And you are a hypocritical asshole that has dirty dreams of killing people in very painful ways. Typical of a 'Conservative'.

Who wants to kill anyone? Do you want to kill me for my Christian beliefs? Where is all that coming from?

This country was founded on Christian beliefs.

If you want to kill me, I want to kill you. The thing is, I own an .06 and have been shooting dead nuts since I was 8 years old.

I used to tack nails to saplings, then set shotgun shells on them, just to set them off with my .22.

True story. It blows the whole top out of the sapling.

 

[HenryBHough]

There were three (3, liberals...like 1+1+1) tablets originally. Sadly, Moses had only two (2, liberals...like 1+1) hands so he dropped one (1, liberals) and it smashed.

Five commandments were lost, the first of which said:

"Thou shalt not suffer fools with gladness"

Anybody wanna contribute even one of the other four (4, liberals...like 1+1+1+1)?

 

[Marion Morrison]

Please do tell us more about your Christian faith.

Give us your testimony on how Christ is the savior of the world.

How he came down to earth and was son of God and the lamb of God sacrificed to end all other sacrifices.

Go ahead now. Get to it.

You won't, because you're a leftist ****** liar. STFU.

Your opinion, most of the people in the world do not believe as you do.

However, a majority of America does.

As do Coptic Christians in other countries even. Do you believe in anything so strongly that you'd be willing to die for it?

I do.

This is where Christians have an edge on Atheists and Muslims.

If nothing else, I feel that the last 30 years or so have proven quite thoroughly that quite a few Muslims around the world are in fact "willing to die" for their beliefs.

Blowing yourself up in order to murder children is very different than standing up for your faith and having your throat slit for it.

From my perspective as an atheist, they seem pretty similar to me.

Both involve sacrificing your life for a system of beliefs and faith.

Okay, go to Qatar and hang out for a month, then give us your perspective as an atheist. PS: Be sure and let the locals know you are one, k?

 

[Old Rocks]

No, our founding fathers were not Christians, they were Deists.

The Christian Nation Myth

The Christian Nation Myth
Farrell Till
Whenever the Supreme Court makes a decision that in any way restricts the intrusion of religion into the affairs of government, a flood of editorials, articles, and letters protesting the ruling is sure to appear in the newspapers. Many protesters decry these decisions on the grounds that they conflict with the wishes and intents of the "founding fathers."

Such a view of American history is completely contrary to known facts. The primary leaders of the so-called founding fathers of our nation were not Bible-believing Christians; they were deists. Deism was a philosophical belief that was widely accepted by the colonial intelligentsia at the time of the American Revolution. Its major tenets included belief in human reason as a reliable means of solving social and political problems and belief in a supreme deity who created the universe to operate solely by natural laws. The supreme God of the Deists removed himself entirely from the universe after creating it. They believed that he assumed no control over it, exerted no influence on natural phenomena, and gave no supernatural revelation to man. A necessary consequence of these beliefs was a rejection of many doctrines central to the Christian religion. Deists did not believe in the virgin birth, divinity, or resurrection of Jesus, the efficacy of prayer, the miracles of the Bible, or even the divine inspiration of the Bible.

These beliefs were forcefully articulated by Thomas Paine in Age of Reason, a book that so outraged his contemporaries that he died rejected and despised by the nation that had once revered him as "the father of the American Revolution." To this day, many mistakenly consider him an atheist, even though he was an out spoken defender of the Deistic view of God. Other important founding fathers who espoused Deism were George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Ethan Allen, James Madison, and James Monroe.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Your opinion, most of the people in the world do not believe as you do.

However, a majority of America does.

As do Coptic Christians in other countries even. Do you believe in anything so strongly that you'd be willing to die for it?

I do.

This is where Christians have an edge on Atheists and Muslims.

If nothing else, I feel that the last 30 years or so have proven quite thoroughly that quite a few Muslims around the world are in fact "willing to die" for their beliefs.

Blowing yourself up in order to murder children is very different than standing up for your faith and having your throat slit for it.

From my perspective as an atheist, they seem pretty similar to me.

Both involve sacrificing your life for a system of beliefs and faith.

Okay, go to Qatar and hang out for a month, then give us your perspective as an atheist. PS: Be sure and let the locals know you are one, k?

He may not be able to 'give us your perspective' at that point.

What happens in Qatar stays in Qatar....along with his head.

 

[Old Rocks]

And you are a hypocritical asshole that has dirty dreams of killing people in very painful ways. Typical of a 'Conservative'.

Who wants to kill anyone? Do you want to kill me for my Christian beliefs? Where is all that coming from?

This country was founded on Christian beliefs.

If you want to kill me, I want to kill you. The thing is, I own an .06 and have shooting dead nuts since I was 8 years old.

I used to tack nails to saplings, then set shotgun shells on them, just to set them off with my .22.

True story. It blows the whole top out of the sapling.

"I surely hope you aren't delusional enough to think you're referring to the United States.

If you are, you're a serious moonbat moron, and yes, I will explain why. This country was founded on Christian principles. Yes, we agreed to tolerate atheists and whatever, to an extent. It seems you want to push that envelope.

Prepare for rails, tar, feathers, and a lit match, idiot. Idk what you heard, but it ain't like that here."

There it is right there, "a lit match". You are like the treasonous fat senile old clown, you cannot remember what you said five minutes ago.

 

[Old Rocks]

And you are a hypocritical asshole that has dirty dreams of killing people in very painful ways. Typical of a 'Conservative'.

Who wants to kill anyone? Do you want to kill me for my Christian beliefs? Where is all that coming from?

This country was founded on Christian beliefs.

If you want to kill me, I want to kill you. The thing is, I own an .06 and have been shooting dead nuts since I was 8 years old.

I used to tack nails to saplings, then set shotgun shells on them, just to set them off with my .22.

True story. It blows the whole top out of the sapling.

LOL Another keyboard tough guy. LOL So you assume someone wants to kill you, and think that justifies you killing them? You definitely have the making of a mass murderer.

 

[Marion Morrison]

And you are a hypocritical asshole that has dirty dreams of killing people in very painful ways. Typical of a 'Conservative'.

Who wants to kill anyone? Do you want to kill me for my Christian beliefs? Where is all that coming from?

This country was founded on Christian beliefs.

If you want to kill me, I want to kill you. The thing is, I own an .06 and have shooting dead nuts since I was 8 years old.

I used to tack nails to saplings, then set shotgun shells on them, just to set them off with my .22.

True story. It blows the whole top out of the sapling.

"I surely hope you aren't delusional enough to think you're referring to the United States.

If you are, you're a serious moonbat moron, and yes, I will explain why. This country was founded on Christian principles. Yes, we agreed to tolerate atheists and whatever, to an extent. It seems you want to push that envelope.

Prepare for rails, tar, feathers, and a lit match, idiot. Idk what you heard, but it ain't like that here."

There it is right there, "a lit match". You are like the treasonous fat senile old clown, you cannot remember what you said five minutes ago.

And you're a total moron that has no idea about the principles America was founded upon.


IOW, you ARE the moonbat moron. keep going fucktard, you're about to get eviscerated. (in cyber world and all that) Yeah, keep talking your trash and I'm about to own you.

 

[Old Rocks]

However, a majority of America does.

As do Coptic Christians in other countries even. Do you believe in anything so strongly that you'd be willing to die for it?

I do.

This is where Christians have an edge on Atheists and Muslims.

If nothing else, I feel that the last 30 years or so have proven quite thoroughly that quite a few Muslims around the world are in fact "willing to die" for their beliefs.

Blowing yourself up in order to murder children is very different than standing up for your faith and having your throat slit for it.

From my perspective as an atheist, they seem pretty similar to me.

Both involve sacrificing your life for a system of beliefs and faith.

Okay, go to Qatar and hang out for a month, then give us your perspective as an atheist. PS: Be sure and let the locals know you are one, k?

He may not be able to 'give us your perspective' at that point.

What happens in Qatar stays in Qatar....along with his head.

Now PC, Marion just expressed his desire to burn someone to death. But then, that is right in line with your own 'Christian' scruples, right?

 

[PoliticalChic]

No, our founding fathers were not Christians, they were Deists.

The Christian Nation Myth

The Christian Nation Myth
Farrell Till
Whenever the Supreme Court makes a decision that in any way restricts the intrusion of religion into the affairs of government, a flood of editorials, articles, and letters protesting the ruling is sure to appear in the newspapers. Many protesters decry these decisions on the grounds that they conflict with the wishes and intents of the "founding fathers."

Such a view of American history is completely contrary to known facts. The primary leaders of the so-called founding fathers of our nation were not Bible-believing Christians; they were deists. Deism was a philosophical belief that was widely accepted by the colonial intelligentsia at the time of the American Revolution. Its major tenets included belief in human reason as a reliable means of solving social and political problems and belief in a supreme deity who created the universe to operate solely by natural laws. The supreme God of the Deists removed himself entirely from the universe after creating it. They believed that he assumed no control over it, exerted no influence on natural phenomena, and gave no supernatural revelation to man. A necessary consequence of these beliefs was a rejection of many doctrines central to the Christian religion. Deists did not believe in the virgin birth, divinity, or resurrection of Jesus, the efficacy of prayer, the miracles of the Bible, or even the divine inspiration of the Bible.

These beliefs were forcefully articulated by Thomas Paine in Age of Reason, a book that so outraged his contemporaries that he died rejected and despised by the nation that had once revered him as "the father of the American Revolution." To this day, many mistakenly consider him an atheist, even though he was an out spoken defender of the Deistic view of God. Other important founding fathers who espoused Deism were George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Ethan Allen, James Madison, and James Monroe.

No, you dunce....they were fundamentalist Christians.

Lesson for today:

1. As there is far, far too much evidence for the Judeo-Christian basis of our nation, those on the Left....desiring to adhere to Marx's doctrines....attempt to call the Founders 'deists' to attempt to pry them from being called 'religious.'

2. de•ism
noun
belief in the existence of a supreme being, specifically of a creator who does not intervene in the universe. The term is used chiefly of an intellectual movement of the 17th and 18th centuries that accepted the existence of a creator on the basis of reason but rejected belief in a supernatural deity who interacts with humankind. Google




3. "The notion that any of the Founders believed in an impersonal deity who merely created the universe and then left it to itself is false. All of them believed in a God who, as Franklin said at the Constitutional Convention, “governs in the affairs of men.”


4. Let’s start with George Washington.

Washington’s writings, both public and private, are full of references to the Bible. This is certainly true during his eight years as the first President of the United States.

Here is Washington at his first Inaugural:
“The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right, which Heaven itself has ordained.”
In all likelihood, Washington was an orthodox Christian.


5. Like Washington, Benjamin Franklin also referenced Bible verses, stories, and metaphors throughout his life. His calls for prayer at the Constitutional Convention were typical of his attitude. Franklin, who had his own unorthodox views, summed up his faith this way: “That the soul of man is immortal, and will be treated with justice in another life respecting its conduct in this.”

Clearly not a view of God ignoring his creations.


6. When it comes to John Adams, the Leftwing sophists have a field day!

"Adams referred to himself as a Christian throughout his life, but did not believe in traditional Christian doctrines such as the trinity or the divinity of Jesus.... [but] before, during and after his tenure as President, Adams repeatedly asserted his admiration for the Christian faith... Adams spoke of his great respect for the Bible. “[T]he Bible is the best book in the world. It contains more of my… philosophy than all the libraries I have seen…”


a. Those who suggest that Adams was in any way against religion like to quote from a letter he wrote to Thomas Jefferson in which he said, “This would be the best of all possible worlds if there was no religion in it.”

Seems to be a perfect spokesman for Marx or Lenin, no?

Definitely, no.



Unfortunately, those who cite this line never quote the lines that immediately follow “But in this exclamation, I should have been as fanatical as [the skeptics of religion]. Without religion, this world would be something not fit to be mentioned in polite company—I mean hell.”

So, those who quote the first line without quoting the subsequent lines are either unaware of the full comment or are deliberately misleading people as to Adams’s beliefs."
Ibid.


7. "Like Adams, Thomas Jefferson did not adhere to orthodox doctrine. Yet he often declared himself to be a Christian. “I am a Christian, he said, “in the only sense he [Jesus] wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to his doctrines...”

As one of the leaders of the American Revolution, his views are well known. After all, this is the man who wrote in the Declaration of Independence that “all men… are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” You can’t get a much more explicit statement of belief than that.



8. These four founders – Washington, Adams, Jefferson and Franklin – were practical men with a sober view of human nature. They understood that man is morally weak and that religion provides the best encouragement and incentive to be good.

It does so, first and foremost, by teaching that choices have consequences. Not necessarily in the here and now, but most certainly in the hereafter – meted out by a just God.


It should come as no surprise, then, that Jefferson, in his second inaugural, asked for, “The favor of that Being in whose hands we are, who led our forefathers, as Israel of old, from their native land.”
Were the Founders Religious?


And all of them were rooted in the Judeo-Christian values found in the Bible.
“52 of the 56 signers of the declaration and 50 to 52 of the 55 signers of the Constitution were orthodox Trinitarian Christians.” David Limbaugh


Why is it sooooo very important for Leftist to disparage religon?

Because it is essential to their central doctrine to do so.

9. "The concept of atheism is an essential element of Marxism. As Lenin stated: "Atheism is a natural and inseparable portion of Marxism, of the theory and practice of Scientific Socialism." If God exists and is in supreme command of the universe, He possesses discretionary power, and His actions cannot always be calculated accurately in advance. The whole edifice of Marxism collapses.

When Marx and the Communists deny the existence of God, they simultaneously deny the authority of the Ten Commandments, the existence of absolute standards of right and wrong, of good and evil; and man is left on the playing fields of the universe without a referee, without a book of rules. The winning side in any conflict can decide on what rules of conduct to apply. Morality is the creation of the victor." The Schwarz Report | Essays




10. The Founders memorialized the very opposite in our founding documents.

There are four references to ‘Divine’ in Declaration of Independence

1)in first paragraph ‘Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God,’ 2) next paragraph ‘endowed by their Creator,” 3) Supreme Judge of the world, and 4) ‘divine’ Providence, last paragraph.

This is important because our historic documents memorialize a government based on individuals born with inalienable rights, by, in various references, by the Divine, or Nature’s God, or their Creator, or the Supreme Judge, or divine Providence.


Since these rights are associated with each individual, they cannot be withdrawn, or subjugated to the will of a governing body.


And...despite the secular nature of our national government, there is one unambiguous reference to Christ in the Constitution. Article VII dates the Constitution in "the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven."
"The Year of Our Lord" and separation.



This leaves Leftists with only two choices....deny, or ignore.

Maybe three: lie.

 

[Marion Morrison]

If nothing else, I feel that the last 30 years or so have proven quite thoroughly that quite a few Muslims around the world are in fact "willing to die" for their beliefs.

Blowing yourself up in order to murder children is very different than standing up for your faith and having your throat slit for it.

From my perspective as an atheist, they seem pretty similar to me.

Both involve sacrificing your life for a system of beliefs and faith.

Okay, go to Qatar and hang out for a month, then give us your perspective as an atheist. PS: Be sure and let the locals know you are one, k?

He may not be able to 'give us your perspective' at that point.

What happens in Qatar stays in Qatar....along with his head.

Now PC, Marion just expressed his desire to burn someone to death. But then, that is right in line with your own 'Christian' scruples, right?

And killing innocent children in the womb is in line with yours, correct?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

No, our founding fathers were not Christians, they were Deists.

The Christian Nation Myth

The Christian Nation Myth
Farrell Till
Whenever the Supreme Court makes a decision that in any way restricts the intrusion of religion into the affairs of government, a flood of editorials, articles, and letters protesting the ruling is sure to appear in the newspapers. Many protesters decry these decisions on the grounds that they conflict with the wishes and intents of the "founding fathers."

Such a view of American history is completely contrary to known facts. The primary leaders of the so-called founding fathers of our nation were not Bible-believing Christians; they were deists. Deism was a philosophical belief that was widely accepted by the colonial intelligentsia at the time of the American Revolution. Its major tenets included belief in human reason as a reliable means of solving social and political problems and belief in a supreme deity who created the universe to operate solely by natural laws. The supreme God of the Deists removed himself entirely from the universe after creating it. They believed that he assumed no control over it, exerted no influence on natural phenomena, and gave no supernatural revelation to man. A necessary consequence of these beliefs was a rejection of many doctrines central to the Christian religion. Deists did not believe in the virgin birth, divinity, or resurrection of Jesus, the efficacy of prayer, the miracles of the Bible, or even the divine inspiration of the Bible.

These beliefs were forcefully articulated by Thomas Paine in Age of Reason, a book that so outraged his contemporaries that he died rejected and despised by the nation that had once revered him as "the father of the American Revolution." To this day, many mistakenly consider him an atheist, even though he was an out spoken defender of the Deistic view of God. Other important founding fathers who espoused Deism were George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Ethan Allen, James Madison, and James Monroe.

https://christiananswers.net/q-wall/wal-g011.html

By 1778, George Washington had so often witnessed God’s intervention that on August 20, he wrote Thomas Nelson that:

The Hand of providence has been so conspicuous in all this, that he must be worse than an infidel that lacks faith, and more than wicked, that has not gratitude enough to acknowledge his obligations. [1]

The left has so embedded themselves with Lucifer that they will tell any lie to push their immoral behavior forward, even try to rewrite history. But as long as those who have the TRUTH behind them, the liberals wicked ways will not go forward. Hitlery lost because the liberal message was exposed for the EVIL that it is. She did not get elected because God and the will of the people cast the demon out. Now we are seeing the liberals as they truly are, and more and more women are exposed the corrupt demons of the Democrat Party..

 

[Marion Morrison]

PC done gotcha for me! HAhA! TY PC.

AND andaronjim!

Old Rocks Give it up, dude, you're failed.

She has all that ready to go as to where I got to look @ bookmarks.

 

[deanrd]

And you are a hypocritical asshole that has dirty dreams of killing people in very painful ways. Typical of a 'Conservative'.

Who wants to kill anyone? Do you want to kill me for my Christian beliefs? Where is all that coming from?

This country was founded on Christian beliefs.

If you want to kill me, I want to kill you. The thing is, I own an .06 and have been shooting dead nuts since I was 8 years old.

I used to tack nails to saplings, then set shotgun shells on them, just to set them off with my .22.

True story. It blows the whole top out of the sapling.

I posted a long list of right wing pastors who call for the murder all gays in America. You can watch their sermons on YouTube.
So please don’t misrepresent the GOP. They want gays dead.

 

[Old Rocks]

The Bradenton Herald has published letters about the United States being founded as a Christian nation. People should read the "Treaty of Peace and Friendship, signed at Tripoli Nov. 4, 1796" between the United States and the Barbary States. It was negotiated under George Washington and ratified by the Senate under John Adams in 1797.

Article 11 is of particular interest: "As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen, and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries." (In the 1790s, "Musselmen" and "Mehomitan" were common names and spellings of "Muslim" used today.) See: avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bar1796t.asp.

One should also note that the treaty calls for "harmony" with a Muslim state. It's something we should keep in mind today more than two centuries after this treaty was ratified, at a time of our nation's infancy.

U.S. stated in 1797 treaty that we're not a Christian nation

We are not a Christian nation. We are a nation where the Christian religion is dominant, but not a government religion.

 

[Marion Morrison]

And you are a hypocritical asshole that has dirty dreams of killing people in very painful ways. Typical of a 'Conservative'.

Who wants to kill anyone? Do you want to kill me for my Christian beliefs? Where is all that coming from?

This country was founded on Christian beliefs.

If you want to kill me, I want to kill you. The thing is, I own an .06 and have been shooting dead nuts since I was 8 years old.

I used to tack nails to saplings, then set shotgun shells on them, just to set them off with my .22.

True story. It blows the whole top out of the sapling.

I posted a long list of right wing pastors who call for the murder all gays in America. You can watch their sermons on YouTube.
So please don’t misrepresent the GOP. They want gays dead.

FYI: Thomas Jefferson is who stopped people from just killing the gay people. I ain't mad at him, until they start flaunting faggotry in my face. Not a good Idea,faggots. Tellin ya, 80% of people feel like I do.

 

[PoliticalChic]

If nothing else, I feel that the last 30 years or so have proven quite thoroughly that quite a few Muslims around the world are in fact "willing to die" for their beliefs.

Blowing yourself up in order to murder children is very different than standing up for your faith and having your throat slit for it.

From my perspective as an atheist, they seem pretty similar to me.

Both involve sacrificing your life for a system of beliefs and faith.

Okay, go to Qatar and hang out for a month, then give us your perspective as an atheist. PS: Be sure and let the locals know you are one, k?

He may not be able to 'give us your perspective' at that point.

What happens in Qatar stays in Qatar....along with his head.

Now PC, Marion just expressed his desire to burn someone to death. But then, that is right in line with your own 'Christian' scruples, right?

1. I have never stated what my religion is.
Perhaps I'm a Druid....I do look good in blue....

2. The destruction of human life is a constituent of Leftist doctrine: the Left is responsible for over 100 million human deaths in the last century alone.

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."
Leon Trotsky

3. Every day, in every way, you prove you know less than nothing about anything.

 

[Marion Morrison]

The Bradenton Herald has published letters about the United States being founded as a Christian nation. People should read the "Treaty of Peace and Friendship, signed at Tripoli Nov. 4, 1796" between the United States and the Barbary States. It was negotiated under George Washington and ratified by the Senate under John Adams in 1797.

Article 11 is of particular interest: "As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen, and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries." (In the 1790s, "Musselmen" and "Mehomitan" were common names and spellings of "Muslim" used today.) See: avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bar1796t.asp.

One should also note that the treaty calls for "harmony" with a Muslim state. It's something we should keep in mind today more than two centuries after this treaty was ratified, at a time of our nation's infancy.

U.S. stated in 1797 treaty that we're not a Christian nation

We are not a Christian nation. We are a nation where the Christian religion is dominant, but not a government religion.

It figures you'd trot that out.

Okay, so what is a "Leatherneck" then?