The Lefts Pope (Pipe) Dream

[JakeStarkey]

And the far right reactionaries are still predatory anti-human vultures.

See how that works, The Breeze.

Grow up.

 

[Contumacious]

Regulated communism and unbridled capitalism are the greatest evils that have faced man in the last 150 years. Both seek to take man's legitimate labor and crush his spirit.

Retards and the narcotized are the greatest evils that have faced man in the last 2013 years. Both seek security and tyranny.

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[BobPlumb]

Does the left also agree with the pope's position on abortion?

 

[DiamondDave]

"How can it be that it is not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure, but it is news when the stock market loses two points?" - Pope Francis (Evangelii Guadium)

Pope Francis on Income Inequality. Can you believe this guy?

Socialism loving scumbag pope...

It is one thing to call for the flock to be generous and help others of their own free will.. his stances against free market society and systems where government do not pick winners and loses via redistribution, are sickening...

 

[Contumacious]

Does the left also agree with the pope's position on abortion?

No.

Just the freebies.

Not having to work for a living appeals to them.

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[The Rabbi]

Fascinating how those who demand the right to force their own religious beliefs about gays, abortion and contraception into becoming the law of the land are decrying someone else for expressing his own beliefs.

Doesn't the Pope have as much right to express his opinion as anyone else?

Who is forcing religious beliefs about those things on others? The only ones doing that are the Left.
The Pope is free to express any opinion he wants. We are free to point out the stupidity of it.
You understand that free market capitalism has done more for poor people in 300 years than the Church has in 2000, right?

Only when it's a well regulated free market.

Well regulated and "free market" are largely antonyms.

 

[The Rabbi]

Let me guess, you actually believe Ted Cruz said that, right?

That was a PARODY! Don't you have even a glimmer of a sense of humor?

No. That was libel. Parody has some basis in truth.

"Pariody" are Derrierre Te's posts. They parody what informed people might say.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Does the left also agree with the pope's position on abortion?

So you mean this one?

Pope Francis: Roman Catholic Church 'Obsessed' With Abortion, Contraception, Homosexuality

Pope Francis: Roman Catholic Church ‘Obsessed’ With Abortion, Contraception, Homosexuality

 

[Derideo_Te]

That was a PARODY! Don't you have even a glimmer of a sense of humor?

No. That was libel. Parody has some basis in truth.

"Pariody" are Derrierre Te's posts. They parody what informed people might say.

 

[Contumacious]

Who is forcing religious beliefs about those things on others? The only ones doing that are the Left.
The Pope is free to express any opinion he wants. We are free to point out the stupidity of it.
You understand that free market capitalism has done more for poor people in 300 years than the Church has in 2000, right?

Only when it's a well regulated free market.

Well regulated and "free market" are largely antonyms.

Incorrect.

The free market is regulated by the invisible hand of the marketplace.

If your product sucks you go out of business, if it sells you make a fortune.

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[Derideo_Te]

Only when it's a well regulated free market.

Well regulated and "free market" are largely antonyms.

Incorrect.

The free market is regulated by the invisible hand of the marketplace.

If your product sucks you go out of business, if it sells you make a fortune.

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Except that in an unregulated free market you can destroy your competitor by lying about their products irrespective of how good they may be. With enough capital you can put them out of business by selling your own product below cost so they go under. You can manufacture faulty products and package them as being made by your competitor. You can even steal your competitors ideas and there is nothing that they can do about it. And best of all none of the harm that you cause to the hapless consumers and your competitors can ever be held against you because this wonderful free market is completely unregulated.

 

[The Rabbi]

Well regulated and "free market" are largely antonyms.

Incorrect.

The free market is regulated by the invisible hand of the marketplace.

If your product sucks you go out of business, if it sells you make a fortune.

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Except that in an unregulated free market you can destroy your competitor by lying about their products irrespective of how good they may be. With enough capital you can put them out of business by selling your own product below cost so they go under. You can manufacture faulty products and package them as being made by your competitor. You can even steal your competitors ideas and there is nothing that they can do about it. And best of all none of the harm that you cause to the hapless consumers and your competitors can ever be held against you because this wonderful free market is completely unregulated.

And that doesnt happen today in the US, right?
Actually regulation has nothing to do with that. Those are tort offenses and there is a legal system designed to curb that. But the offended party is the company, not the government.
No one is suggesting dismantling the legal system.
So you are simply wrong.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Incorrect.

The free market is regulated by the invisible hand of the marketplace.

If your product sucks you go out of business, if it sells you make a fortune.

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Except that in an unregulated free market you can destroy your competitor by lying about their products irrespective of how good they may be. With enough capital you can put them out of business by selling your own product below cost so they go under. You can manufacture faulty products and package them as being made by your competitor. You can even steal your competitors ideas and there is nothing that they can do about it. And best of all none of the harm that you cause to the hapless consumers and your competitors can ever be held against you because this wonderful free market is completely unregulated.

And that doesnt happen today in the US, right?
Actually regulation has nothing to do with that. Those are tort offenses and there is a legal system designed to curb that. But the offended party is the company, not the government.
No one is suggesting dismantling the legal system.
So you are simply wrong.

So each individual consumer will have to pay through the nose in order to sue the unregulated corporations that harmed them? And what will that cost them? What purpose does the government serve if there are no regulations? Why can't We the People who have formed a government FOR the people set up regulations that prevent these illegal acts and protect consumers?

 

[The Rabbi]

Except that in an unregulated free market you can destroy your competitor by lying about their products irrespective of how good they may be. With enough capital you can put them out of business by selling your own product below cost so they go under. You can manufacture faulty products and package them as being made by your competitor. You can even steal your competitors ideas and there is nothing that they can do about it. And best of all none of the harm that you cause to the hapless consumers and your competitors can ever be held against you because this wonderful free market is completely unregulated.

And that doesnt happen today in the US, right?
Actually regulation has nothing to do with that. Those are tort offenses and there is a legal system designed to curb that. But the offended party is the company, not the government.
No one is suggesting dismantling the legal system.
So you are simply wrong.

So each individual consumer will have to pay through the nose in order to sue the unregulated corporations that harmed them? And what will that cost them? What purpose does the government serve if there are no regulations? Why can't We the People who have formed a government FOR the people set up regulations that prevent these illegal acts and protect consumers?

Yawn. Argumentum ad absurdum fallacy.
fail.

 

[Derideo_Te]

And that doesnt happen today in the US, right?
Actually regulation has nothing to do with that. Those are tort offenses and there is a legal system designed to curb that. But the offended party is the company, not the government.
No one is suggesting dismantling the legal system.
So you are simply wrong.

So each individual consumer will have to pay through the nose in order to sue the unregulated corporations that harmed them? And what will that cost them? What purpose does the government serve if there are no regulations? Why can't We the People who have formed a government FOR the people set up regulations that prevent these illegal acts and protect consumers?

Yawn. Argumentum ad absurdum fallacy.
fail.

Your failure to support your position is duly noted and treated as a de facto forfeiture.

 

[Contumacious]

Well regulated and "free market" are largely antonyms.

Incorrect.

The free market is regulated by the invisible hand of the marketplace.

If your product sucks you go out of business, if it sells you make a fortune.

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Except that in an unregulated free market you can destroy your competitor by lying about their products irrespective of how good they may be.

Hummmmmmmm

I am 65 years old - don't recall refusing to buy a product because of what the competition said.

Are you saying that left to their own devices Kraft Foods would mix shit or some other contaminants with their preserves? That reputation is not an asset?

At one time Standard Oil of New Jersey had cornered 85% of the market yet their prices were reasonable and their products excellent.

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[The Rabbi]

So each individual consumer will have to pay through the nose in order to sue the unregulated corporations that harmed them? And what will that cost them? What purpose does the government serve if there are no regulations? Why can't We the People who have formed a government FOR the people set up regulations that prevent these illegal acts and protect consumers?

Yawn. Argumentum ad absurdum fallacy.
fail.

Your failure to support your position is duly noted and treated as a de facto forfeiture.

that's nice. You suck too.

 

[Seawytch]

Who is forcing religious beliefs about those things on others? The only ones doing that are the Left.
The Pope is free to express any opinion he wants. We are free to point out the stupidity of it.
You understand that free market capitalism has done more for poor people in 300 years than the Church has in 2000, right?

Only when it's a well regulated free market.

Well regulated and "free market" are largely antonyms.

Not in a functioning society. An unregulated free market is where you get children dying in factories and coal mines.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Yawn. Argumentum ad absurdum fallacy.
fail.

Your failure to support your position is duly noted and treated as a de facto forfeiture.

that's nice. You suck too.

Resorting to ad hominems confirms that you have conceded your position on unregulated free markets.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Only when it's a well regulated free market.

Well regulated and "free market" are largely antonyms.

Not in a functioning society. An unregulated free market is where you get children dying in factories and coal mines.

What never ceases to amaze me is that the extreme right is convinced that they and/or their children will somehow be immune to these depredations by unfettered corporate greed and rapaciousness.