The Left bemoans not having a liberal online influencer ecosystem...

[daveman]

just goes to show no one wants to listen to leftist,, not even other leftist,,

Y'all remember the embarrassing flop Air America?

 

[Missourian]

The whole rise of alternative (alt-right) media was fueled by a mix of disinformation, lies, and conspiracy theories.

I actually agree with that.

The Legacy Media has become a mix of disinformation, lies, and conspiracy theories.

There was a time there were reporters interest in investigating the government. Now we have activists on the MSM whose idea of journalism is asking the government for a statement, then reporting that as fact.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

I actually agree with that.

The Legacy Media has become a mix of disinformation, lies, and conspiracy theories.

There was a time there were reporters interest in investigating the government. Now we have activists on the MSM whose idea of journalism is asking the government for a statement, then reporting that as fact.

Corporate interests turned mainstream media away from objectivity. So what do we do? Turn to social media, whose entire business model is selling out user content to corporate interests.

Go us?

 

[Missourian]

Corporate interests turned mainstream media away from objectivity. So what do we do? Turn to social media, whose entire business model is selling out user content to corporate interests.

Go us?

I go where I don't get lied to.

When the MSM comes back around to that, I'll go back.

But...I was down in Florida for almost a month helping my folks clean up from the storm surge, and watched ABC Nightly News every night with them.

I've been off Legacy Media for a decade...and instead of getting better...it was far worse than I could have imagined as it pertained to politics and culture.


I'm not entirely sure they can come back...as the old farmer said to the tourists seeking direction..."sorry folks, you can't get there from here.".

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

I go where I don't get lied to.

When the MSM comes back around to that, I'll go back.

But...I was down in Florida for almost a month helping my folks clean up from the storm surge, and watched ABC Nightly News every night with them.

I've been off Legacy Media for a decade...and instead of getting better...it was far worse than I could have imagined as it pertained to politics and culture.


I'm not entirely sure they can come back...as the old farmer said to the tourists seeking direction..."sorry folks, you can't get there from here.".

So you turn to unvetted, unobjective sources that cater to your confirmation bias? How is that critical thinking, and how do you know you're not being lied to?

Seems to me like choosing fentanyl over heroin.

 

[Missourian]

So you turn to unvetted, unobjective sources that cater to your confirmation bias? How is that critical thinking, and how do you know you're not being lied to?

Seems to me like choosing fentanyl over heroin.

I listen to Tim Pool's news podcast almost everyday day.

Maybe the IRL show once or twice a week.

And about an hour of Ben Shapiro on YouTube (listening)

A daily episode of The Comment Section with Brett Cooper.

Plus Bari Weiss's Honestly.

And just added Megyn Kelly if I have time.

Not exactly unvetted sources.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

I listen to Tim Pool's news podcast almost everyday day.

Maybe the IRL show once or twice a week.

And about an hour of Ben Shapiro on YouTube (listening)

A daily episode of The Comment Section with Brett Cooper.

Plus Bari Weiss's Honestly.

And just added Megyn Kelly if I have time.

Not exactly unvetted sources.

At least three of those sources are politically biased. As I said, confirmation bias.

 

[progressive hunter]

At least three of those sources are politically biased. As I said, confirmation bias.

dude everyone is politically biased,,

if youre a logical person you will know their bias and when its being used,,

honesty and being objective with the facts is what matters,,

none of he leftwing media have that,, you can always tell theyre putting on an act,,

 

[Missourian]

At least three of those sources are politically biased. As I said, confirmation bias.

Tim Pool was a Bernie Sanders supporter. He's still pretty far Left compared to me.

Bari Weiss is on the Left.

Brett Cooper is Culture War stuff.

Megyn Kelly used to be anti-Trump and is still pretty centrist.

And Ben Shapiro is on the Right.

It only seems all right from the far left.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Tim Pool was a Bernie Sanders supporter. He's still pretty far Left compared to me.

Bari Weiss is on the Left.

Brett Cooper is Culture War stuff.

Megyn Kelly used to be anti-Trump and is still pretty centrist.

And Ben Shapiro is on the Right.

It only seems all right from the far left.

I disagree with your takes.

 

[Missourian]

I disagree with your takes.

Have you listened for yourself?

Or do you believe what you've been told.

When I first started listening to Tim Pool, he said in almost every episode "stop making me defend Donald Trump".

He had voted for Obama and has supported Sanders over Clinton and saw the DNC fuck him over.

He supported Yang and Gabbard.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Have you listened for yourself?

Or do you believe what you've been told.

When I first started listening to Tim Pool, he said in almost every episode "stop making me defend Donald Trump".

He had voted for Obama and has supported Sanders over Clinton and saw the DNC fuck him over.

He supported Yang and Gabbard.

He has grievances. He broadcasts those grievances. I got tired of listening to grievance.

 

[progressive hunter]

He has grievances. He broadcasts those grievances. I got tired of listening to grievance.

youre not tired of lying,,

saying he didnt like what they did to bernie a few times isnt broadcasting his grievances,,

he has one of the most genuine shows out there with timcast IRL where its a sitdown in person conversation for two hrs,,

the left hates him because they could never produce a show like that because they cant maintain the act that long,,

 

[Missourian]

He has grievances. He broadcasts those grievances. I got tired of listening to grievance.

To each their own I suppose.

I see a guy who tries his best to be honest.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Fuck that, I'm rejoicing we don't have complete lunatics like those losers.

You admitted that you’re fat and suffer from TDS. Did you not?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

To each their own I suppose.

I see a guy who tries his best to be honest.

I don't. I see a guy not above taking money from Russian sources to spew reckless propaganda.

 

[Missourian]

I don't. I see a guy not above taking money from Russian sources to spew reckless propaganda.

You have been misled.

Pool contracted use of some content with Lauren Chen.

This is exactly what I'm talking about.

You read that narrative and believed it.

But the truth is...

What did the Russians get from their Tenet Media scheme?

So we’re left with the question: was Tenet the only allegedly Russian-funded media operation to push Kremlin talking points?

thespectator.com

So... Please post your evidence that supports your statement and refutes mine.

 

[Markle]

From the New York Times...archived, of course...

https://archive.is/osBEB

Tl;Dr?

The left is whining because they don't have a Tim Pool, a Joe Rogan, a Charlie Kirk, a Crouder or a Bannon.

Well ..let me help you with that.

The Left HAD Pool and Rogan...and drummed them out of their party with cancel culture.

The Crouders, Kirks and Bannons...you can't replicate that...because the reason a voter seeks out alt-media is because those individuals have lost faith in the biased Legacy Media.

If you agree with Legacy Media, there is no need to search out an alternative.

The only way to create leftwing alt media is to challenge the Establishment...and the Establishment isn't going to help you financially to oppose them.

The people who make it in that space, like Shoe-on-head and The Young Turks are doing it on their own with grass roots support.

If we've learned anything from this election...it's that just throwing a billion dollars at influencers isn't going to win elections ...it's just going to put Democrats in debt.

Remember the last time Republicans were trounced?

Democrats used all the same excuses. Instead of podcasts, they wailed about Rush Limbaugh's unfair advantage, never mind that they had the rest of the media in their pockets. Al Gore was so distraught about the perceived unfairness that they bought a radio station for the sole purpose of converting it to a liberal talk show station. It wasn't long before it went broke.

They don't just don't "get it", they'll fight to

 

[Missourian]

Libby Emmon's take...

Dems mad they ‘got killed in alternative media’ as they seek to replicate TPUSA, Daily Wire—which were created in response to leftists’ stranglehold on culture

TPUSA, The Daily Wire, outlets like The Post Millennial, right-wing meme-makers, YouTubers, TikTokers and creators launched their projects because they were driven to do it. Money came after passion.

thepostmillennial.com

 

[Picaro]

Because actually thinking and discussing policies and solutions doesn't work for being an "influencer". That would require debating issues and having reasoned discussions on them. That's why the right wing has a plethora of media figures. A more simple message. Easily digestible. Can be packaged more easily. Doesn't require much in the way of nuance or understanding. Real time reaction and emotions that are easy for the average media consumer to pick up on.

Is that the Democrats' excuse for being butt stupid perverts and halfwits with zero common sense and hyper-nazi 'cancel culture' media failures?