The laws of nature existed before space and time

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The same laws of nature which describe the creation of space and time also describe the evolution of space and time. Therefore, the laws of nature existed before space and time.

 
Vilenkin chuckles and shrugs off at least a half dozen attempts by the interviewer to force a god delusion on him! But he's just not buying any of it!

All that matters to me is he testified to the evidence which proves the laws of nature existed before space and time.
 
The same laws of nature which describe the creation of space and time also describe the evolution of space and time. Therefore, the laws of nature existed before space and time.


If the big bang, or inflation as he mentioned, is proven by the red shift of the distant galaxies, why aren't the galaxies becoming redder as they move at near light speed away from us? Doppler effect is neat for cars but as the car gets further away, the effect of the sound becoming bent increases. Big bang is really a one sided nature of stubborn physicists who have been stuck since the discovery of red shift galaxies. The economy behind this science and others is jaw dropping, inappropriate, unethical.
 
The economy behind this science and others is jaw dropping, inappropriate, unethical.
Why?

You didn't like the t shirt? :p

Economies are self regulating. Technologies that aren't useful, disappear.

How many people still own clothespins, even in this age of automatic dryers?
 
The same laws of nature which describe the creation of space and time also describe the evolution of space and time. Therefore, the laws of nature existed before space and time.


God’s laws, aka the God of Jews and Christians
 
everyone and everything
 
The same laws of nature which describe the creation of space and time also describe the evolution of space and time. Therefore, the laws of nature existed before space and time.


if space and time didnt exist, where and when did these laws exist??
 
Outside of space and time. Where do these laws exist now? They aren't things.
they exist here and now,,

do you have a picture of this place outside of space and time??


you and the guy in the video need to share some of that weed youre smoking,,
 
they exist here and now,,

do you have a picture of this place outside of space and time??


you and the guy in the video need to share some of that weed youre smoking,,
Where do they exist? Show me.
 
Why?

You didn't like the t shirt? :p

Economies are self regulating. Technologies that aren't useful, disappear.

How many people still own clothespins, even in this age of automatic dryers?
What is the current student loan debt?


Americans owe $1.74 trillion in student loan debt. The Biden administration has repeatedly attempted to forgive student loan debt, but a federal appeals court on Aug. 9, 2024, extended an order blocking it from moving ahead with its Saving on a Valuable Education (SAVE) relief plan.

that's a big number. they are anti aether, pro electron. what if we simplified education down to intelligent video games and online instruction of those games? reduce a college education from 90,000 to a few hundred? but do we have intelligent people running the system? this is where like minded individuals need to unite. we need to stick together.
 
What experiment can we perform to demonstrate any of the current Laws of Physics were valid before the Big Bang? ...

As you've reminded me ... we have NO information from before the universe was 300,000 years old ... no information at this time ... how do we know the Laws of Physics worked then? ... where's the missing anti-matter, what's causing the current inflation, what is existence before time ...

When will gravity stop the expansion and start collapsing the universe back down to her original singularity? ... and singularities are impossible under QM ... care to explain? ... the OP claims 'same laws', so what's the density of a singularity? ...
 
What experiment can we perform to demonstrate any of the current Laws of Physics were valid before the Big Bang? ...

As you've reminded me ... we have NO information from before the universe was 300,000 years old ... no information at this time ... how do we know the Laws of Physics worked then? ... where's the missing anti-matter, what's causing the current inflation, what is existence before time ...

When will gravity stop the expansion and start collapsing the universe back down to her original singularity? ... and singularities are impossible under QM ... care to explain? ... the OP claims 'same laws', so what's the density of a singularity? ...
The evidence is the same laws that describe the evolution for space and time also describe the creation of space and time. What evidence do you have that says they don't?
 
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