Zone1 The Israel of Revelation

[kjw47]

Is not Literal Israel religion. Jesus assures they are cut off of being Gods chosen( Matt 23:38) They can come to Jesus( 23:39) but have outright refused to this day. Galation 3:27-29 is proof-Spiritual Israel is now Gods chosen, the Israel mentioned in Revelation--Gal says--ALL who put on the Christ are Abrahams offspring))= spiritual Israel.= any Jewish that leaves that religion and joins Jesus' 1 religion and gentiles= spiritual Israel.

 

[onefour1]

In the Old Testament, God only included the House of Israel, ie the offspring of Jacob (aka Israel), as members of the House of Israel. When Jesus came he taught that he was only to go unto the House of Israel. However, after his death and resurrection, the doctrine of adoption became a part of his doctrine and the gospel was then to be taught to the Gentiles and they were to be adopted into the House of Israel. Today, anyone who is willing to accept Jesus as the Christ and follow his ways and receive baptism by immersion and receive the gift of the Holy Ghost become a saint in his church and are numbered among the House of Israel. Salvation is unto all who are willing to believe.

 

[theHawk]

In the Old Testament, God only included the House of Israel, ie the offspring of Jacob (aka Israel), as members of the House of Israel. When Jesus came he taught that he was only to go unto the House of Israel. However, after his death and resurrection, the doctrine of adoption became a part of his doctrine and the gospel was then to be taught to the Gentiles and they were to be adopted into the House of Israel. Today, anyone who is willing to accept Jesus as the Christ and follow his ways and receive baptism by immersion and receive the gift of the Holy Ghost become a saint in his church and are numbered among the House of Israel. Salvation is unto all who are willing to believe.

The Magi were believers of the God of Abraham and the Messiah. They weren’t Jewish yet believed. Most likely they were from the area around Babylon where the Jews were exiled. The wise men there witnessed the things Daniel did. They likely converted and taught their children about the one true God and were waiting for the Messiah as they would had been familiar with the Septuagint.

 

[irosie91]

The Magi were believers of the God of Abraham and the Messiah. They weren’t Jewish yet believed. Most likely they were from the area around Babylon where the Jews were exiled. The wise men there witnessed the things Daniel did. They likely converted and taught their children about the one true God and were waiting for the Messiah as they would had been familiar with the Septuagint.

try again ---the story of the MAGI was about three Zoroastrians----
people of AVODAH KOCHANIM (the religion which is "devotion
to the stars") The Septuagint was not written in Farsi but they may
have had some interaction with jews in Persia if they existed.---anyway---
nice quaint story

 

[The Irish Ram]

Christians are grafted into the Jewish line. They are the root. We are the shoot.
The Jews are the Chosen and God keeps His promises. The Israel in Revelation is the real physical Israel. We know that by the references to specific locations that are spoken of. The Jezreel Valley, and Har Megiddo. Jews fleeing to Petra.
We know that there is going to be a physical earthquake when Christ touches down on the Mt. of Olives. It is the land that God gathered His people back to. And Jerusalem is where Christ sets up His Kingdom, in the city of David. It is the actual place.

 

[luiza]

Here's an assertion that is being made by some very savvy and bright people .

That very soon ( 2-3 years?) the State of Israel will no longer exist and will be replaced by a country to be known as Judea .

I am just relaying serious people's beliefs and am the Messenger who is only an interested spectator.
By implication Deep State would have to be beaten and broken for that to happen .
And they are presently suffering major reverses .

So , perhaps we all do get lucky .But not the Chosen Ones .
rofl .

 

[Woodznutz]

try again ---the story of the MAGI was about three Zoroastrians----
people of AVODAH KOCHANIM (the religion which is "devotion
to the stars") The Septuagint was not written in Farsi but they may
have had some interaction with jews in Persia if they existed.---anyway---
nice quaint story

The Magi brought three gifts. It isn't known how many came to see Jesus.

 

[BreezeWood]

the three desert religions have never been validated by the heavens, the heavens have never spoken to a single individual -

what jesus taught, liberation theology, self determination is the distinction between good and evil when fully understood is the means to free the spirit from its physiology to live on into the future to explore whatever is their hearts content.

 

[kjw47]

the three desert religions have never been validated by the heavens, the heavens have never spoken to a single individual -

what jesus taught, liberation theology, self determination is the distinction between good and evil when fully understood is the means to free the spirit from its physiology to live on into the future to explore whatever is their hearts content.

Jesus taught--the good news of Gods coming kingdom rule. He taught to live now to do his Fathers will over self just as he does.

 

[BreezeWood]

Jesus taught--the good news of Gods coming kingdom rule. He taught to live now to do his Fathers will over self just as he does.

jesus never used the heavens as something to worship for them the heavens is a goal to be accomplished as was the choice of a&e in the beginning.

self determination, the prolonged existence of living beings over generations is the only means for existence and the spiritual path to the everlasting.

 

[Woodznutz]

jesus never used the heavens as something to worship for them the heavens is a goal to be accomplished as was the choice of a&e in the beginning.

self determination, the prolonged existence of living beings over generations is the only means for existence and the spiritual path to the everlasting.

You've been at this for a while. How many disciples do you have so far?

 

[kjw47]

jesus never used the heavens as something to worship for them the heavens is a goal to be accomplished as was the choice of a&e in the beginning.

self determination, the prolonged existence of living beings over generations is the only means for existence and the spiritual path to the everlasting.

only 144,000 are going to heaven. The rest( righteous) live on Earth forever.

 

[BreezeWood]

You've been at this for a while. How many disciples do you have so far?

how many did jesus have - certainly not the 4th century crucifiers, christian bible, desert religions, false commandments, hereditary idolatry et al who only use jesus for their own nefarious agendas to persecute and victimize the innocent ... nutz.

 

[Woodznutz]

how many did jesus have - certainly not the 4th century crucifiers, christian bible, desert religions, false commandments, hereditary idolatry et al who only use jesus for their own nefarious agendas to persecute and victimize the innocent ... nutz.

So, none, eh?

 

[BreezeWood]

So, none, eh?

- who only use jesus for their own nefarious agendas to persecute and victimize the innocent ... nutz.

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not your multitude, no.

 

[Woodznutz]

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not your multitude, no.

I'm guessing that many are working out their own salvation (perhaps not with fear and trembling).

 

[kjw47]

how many did jesus have - certainly not the 4th century crucifiers, christian bible, desert religions, false commandments, hereditary idolatry et al who only use jesus for their own nefarious agendas to persecute and victimize the innocent ... nutz.

Jesus is with the Jehovah witnesses. No one else. Always at peace. Don't do drugs, don't get drunk, steal, lie, commit adultery, have any other gods before their faces, etc= no part of this world. To the best of their abilities.

 

[BreezeWood]

Jesus is with the Jehovah witnesses. No one else. Always at peace. Don't do drugs, don't get drunk, steal, lie, commit adultery, have any other gods before their faces, etc= no part of this world. To the best of their abilities.

liberation theology - self determination ...

both sides to every story - all in moderation.

 

[Woodznutz]

Jesus is with the Jehovah witnesses. No one else. Always at peace. Don't do drugs, don't get drunk, steal, lie, commit adultery, have any other gods before their faces, etc= no part of this world. To the best of their abilities.

That's me, but I'm not a JW.

 

[kjw47]

liberation theology - self determination ...

both sides to every story - all in moderation.

The world will find out. In Ezekial it says about 20x for these last days--They will have to know i am Jehovah.
Its why satan, through wicked men removed Gods name from his translation against his will. False religions choose to support satan on that matter over Gods will. Even though they claim to follow Jesus, yet do not listen to him. He showed in the Lords prayer his Fathers name( Jehovah) is the #1 issue for all involved.