The IMPOSSIBLE didn't happen on 911

[candycorn]

and you know this how?
bogus conformation in 5...4...3..2.1

lol ...you where the one that posted pictures with no link then titled yourself as flight 77 bodies and claimed they where flight passengers...care to prove YOUR claim ?

if you look at the bottom of the photos there's a tag...

It's fun watching the "logic".

No passengers on the plane so that means something else:

Blew up at the Pentagon
Took Down the Lightpoles
Crashed in the Cab Driver's Windshield
Knocked the generator off of it's moorings
Planted the airplane wreckage

Then...

Paid (and are still paying) the investigators to say it was passenger DNA they found
Paid (and are still paying) air traffic controllers to hold to the story of tracking a plane into the Pentagon
Paid (and are still paying) the dozens of eye witnesses who said they saw AA77 hit the building
Paid (and are still paying) the medical examiners, first responders, and other officials who investigated the crash scene

And (did largely the same) at three other crime scenes as well.

 

[daws101]

come on you know not a single body or body part of a plane passenger was found at the pentagon only bodies of pentagon employees..I am unsure as to what occurred at the pentagon but you should at least stick to the facts

a quick check reveals as always that eots is talking out his ass.
the no bodies of passengers of flight 77 claim is brought to you by the usual inside job not credible or verifiable slap dicks who in better then 11 years have done nothing but speciously speculate on the false inside job masturbation fantasy.


flight 77 bodies

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBASQj5hoE0]Billy Madison - Ultimate Insult (Academic Decathlon) - YouTube[/ame]

LMFAO. Your ignorance bores me.

That's Dawgshit 101 for you, posting the same fake images as that lying piece-of-shit PFC Gomer Ollie did in another thread, and trying to pass them off as proof of the dead bodies of the passengers from Flight AA77. You're wrong yet again but that's normal for you.

The melting point of aluminum is around 1,700 degrees F. The heat that was generated in the Pentagon fire supposedly was well above this, since they claimed that the aluminum vaporized! That happens at 11,000 degrees F!!!

DNA is an organic molecule that is very fragile, easily destroyed by temperatures at just a few hundred degrees C. It doesn’t need to be vaporized, it can be destroyed by just being close to heat!

How does human tissue survive when massive metal engines cannot? Answer: It can't.

Why, after all these years, haven't we seen any clear photos of the "plane" that struck the Pentagon?

Supposedly 100 Tons of steel and titanium alloy completely disintegrated, yet, government forensics teams claim to have identified 180+ bodies. No witnesses saw any bodies, no witnesses saw damage consistent with a 757 slamming onto the lawn and Pentagon.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmP2Vy8K0i0]The pentagon was not hit by a airliner. See for yourself - YouTube[/ame]

Once again you are proven wrong but do try again dumbass.

are you done? everything you put in this post has been debunked...but you are amusing in a obsessive nut job kinda way.

 

[eots]

a quick check reveals as always that eots is talking out his ass.
The no bodies of passengers of flight 77 claim is brought to you by the usual inside job not credible or verifiable slap dicks who in better then 11 years have done nothing but speciously speculate on the false inside job masturbation fantasy.


Flight 77 bodies

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbasqj5hoe0]billy madison - ultimate insult (academic decathlon) - youtube[/ame]

lmfao. Your ignorance bores me.

That's dawgshit 101 for you, posting the same fake images as that lying piece-of-shit pfc gomer ollie did in another thread, and trying to pass them off as proof of the dead bodies of the passengers from flight aa77. You're wrong yet again but that's normal for you.

The melting point of aluminum is around 1,700 degrees f. The heat that was generated in the pentagon fire supposedly was well above this, since they claimed that the aluminum vaporized! That happens at 11,000 degrees f!!!

Dna is an organic molecule that is very fragile, easily destroyed by temperatures at just a few hundred degrees c. It doesn’t need to be vaporized, it can be destroyed by just being close to heat!

How does human tissue survive when massive metal engines cannot? Answer: It can't.

Why, after all these years, haven't we seen any clear photos of the "plane" that struck the pentagon?

Supposedly 100 tons of steel and titanium alloy completely disintegrated, yet, government forensics teams claim to have identified 180+ bodies. No witnesses saw any bodies, no witnesses saw damage consistent with a 757 slamming onto the lawn and pentagon.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmp2vy8k0i0]the pentagon was not hit by a airliner. See for yourself - youtube[/ame]

once again you are proven wrong but do try again dumbass.

are you done? Everything you put in this post has been debunked...but you are amusing in a obsessive nut job kinda way.

lol.. Its been denwunked has it

 

[daws101]

billy madison - ultimate insult (academic decathlon) - youtube

lmfao. Your ignorance bores me.

That's dawgshit 101 for you, posting the same fake images as that lying piece-of-shit pfc gomer ollie did in another thread, and trying to pass them off as proof of the dead bodies of the passengers from flight aa77. You're wrong yet again but that's normal for you.

The melting point of aluminum is around 1,700 degrees f. The heat that was generated in the pentagon fire supposedly was well above this, since they claimed that the aluminum vaporized! That happens at 11,000 degrees f!!!

Dna is an organic molecule that is very fragile, easily destroyed by temperatures at just a few hundred degrees c. It doesn’t need to be vaporized, it can be destroyed by just being close to heat!

How does human tissue survive when massive metal engines cannot? Answer: It can't.

Why, after all these years, haven't we seen any clear photos of the "plane" that struck the pentagon?

Supposedly 100 tons of steel and titanium alloy completely disintegrated, yet, government forensics teams claim to have identified 180+ bodies. No witnesses saw any bodies, no witnesses saw damage consistent with a 757 slamming onto the lawn and pentagon.

the pentagon was not hit by a airliner. See for yourself - youtube

once again you are proven wrong but do try again dumbass.

are you done? Everything you put in this post has been debunked...but you are amusing in a obsessive nut job kinda way.

lol.. Its been denwunked has it

gee! how'd I know you'd say that..
and yes it has. no matter how much you bitch.
you still have not produced any credible evidence that those are pentagon employees.

especially these two:

 

[eots]

are you done? Everything you put in this post has been debunked...but you are amusing in a obsessive nut job kinda way.

lol.. Its been denwunked has it

gee! How'd i know you'd say that..
And yes it has. No matter how much you bitch.
You still have not produced any credible evidence that those are pentagon employees.

yes i did...as did ollie...you however provided nothing to support your claim there are pictures of passangers bodies ...your debwunking has been debunked loser

 

[daws101]

lol.. Its been denwunked has it

gee! How'd i know you'd say that..
And yes it has. No matter how much you bitch.
You still have not produced any credible evidence that those are pentagon employees.

yes i did...as did ollie...you however provided nothing to support your claim there are pictures of passangers bodies ...your debwunking has been debunked loser

dodge! you calling me a loser! now that's irony in action..I'd say you were the king of losers but you'd have to blow hand job to get that spot.

 

[SAYIT]

lol ...you where the one that posted pictures with no link then titled yourself as flight 77 bodies and claimed they where flight passengers...care to prove YOUR claim ?

if you look at the bottom of the photos there's a tag...

It's fun watching the "logic".

No passengers on the plane so that means something else:

Blew up at the Pentagon
Took Down the Lightpoles
Crashed in the Cab Driver's Windshield
Knocked the generator off of it's moorings
Planted the airplane wreckage

Then...

Paid (and are still paying) the investigators to say it was passenger DNA they found
Paid (and are still paying) air traffic controllers to hold to the story of tracking a plane into the Pentagon
Paid (and are still paying) the dozens of eye witnesses who said they saw AA77 hit the building
Paid (and are still paying) the medical examiners, first responders, and other officials who investigated the crash scene

And (did largely the same) at three other crime scenes as well.

And, of course, not one of the ever-expanding list of co-conspirators whispers a word. Not one. At some point the CTs will have everyone but themselves on the hook for 9/11. Everyone.

 

[SFC Ollie]

I did read somewhere that there were bodies found at the pentagon still strapped to their chairs.......

Wished I could find it. Had it bookmarked on my old computer, but it died on me.....

 

[daws101]

I did read somewhere that there were bodies found at the pentagon still strapped to their chairs.......

Wished I could find it. Had it bookmarked on my old computer, but it died on me.....

you could goggle it .


Location of human remains, Forensics, DNA identification, personal effects found


Excerpt fromCollapse Rescue Operations At The Pentagon 9-11 Attack A Case Study on Urban Search and Rescue Disaster Response (PDF)

The following approach was applied to the recovery of Pentagon Incident fatalities: When a victim was located, work in the area was halted to protect the body, personal belongings, and evidence. An FBI evidence team (one of several on constant standby in front of the collapse) would document the site and gather evidence. If physical extrication was required, a Rescue Squad from the assigned US&R task force was given this task. The next step in the process was a Military Mortuary Team who collected and removed the victim from the building.

All the debris removed from the building was spread out by the heavy equipment, and (on the signal of the IST US&R Specialist) the equipment would stop and Canine Search Teams from the US&R Task Forces would deploy across the material in search of any scent indicating human remains. Then US&R Search Team members would conduct a physical search for remains, crawling and walking over all the debris. Finally, after being searched three or more times, the debris would be loaded into trucks with skip loaders, where it would be taken to one of the Pentagon parking lots to be further combed for human remains and evidence by the FBI, ATF, Military units, and the Arlington Police Department. (p. 8)

The remains of every flight 77 victim but one (a two-year-old) was recovered and positively identified by forensics experts. Personal effects of many survived the crash and fires and were returned to the victims' families.


Articles on Pentagon disaster morgue operations and victim identification


Human Identification in a Post-9/11 World: The Attack on American Airlines Flight 77 and the Pentagon (PDF)


Personal effects found– Flt. 77 passenger Suzanne Calley's body found –Mortuary affairs artifacts


The only two brothers who died at the Pentagon on 9/11 were hijackers Nawaf and Salem al-Hazmi. Remains of two brothers were identified by DNA:
"The DNA results strengthened the hypothesis that two of the terrorists were brothers, as indicated by other evidence. Two of the terrorist STR profiles aboard the AA Flight 77 gave a sibling index greater than 500. To further test the hypothesis of maternal relatedness, AFDIL sequenced the HVI and HVII regions of mtDNA for these individuals. The sequences generated did match in HVI and HVII, which is consistent with a maternal relationship between the two men."–http://www.cstl.nist.gov/div831/strbase/pub_pres/Edson2004.pdf (p. 83)

https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pentagonflight77evidencesummary

 

[candycorn]

if you look at the bottom of the photos there's a tag...

It's fun watching the "logic".

No passengers on the plane so that means something else:

Blew up at the Pentagon
Took Down the Lightpoles
Crashed in the Cab Driver's Windshield
Knocked the generator off of it's moorings
Planted the airplane wreckage

Then...

Paid (and are still paying) the investigators to say it was passenger DNA they found
Paid (and are still paying) air traffic controllers to hold to the story of tracking a plane into the Pentagon
Paid (and are still paying) the dozens of eye witnesses who said they saw AA77 hit the building
Paid (and are still paying) the medical examiners, first responders, and other officials who investigated the crash scene

And (did largely the same) at three other crime scenes as well.

And, of course, not one of the ever-expanding list of co-conspiators whispers a word. Not one. At some point the CTs will have everyone but themselves on the hook for 9/11. Everyone.

Are you sure you weren't involved? I wonder about myself.

 

[SFC Ollie]

When Williams discovered the scorched bodies of several airline passengers, they were still strapped into their seats. The stench of charred flesh overwhelmed him.

"It was the worst thing you can imagine," said Williams, whose squad from Fort Belvoir, Va., entered the building, less than four hours after the terrorist attack. "I wanted to cry from the minute I walked in. But I have soldiers under me and I had to put my feelings aside."

USATODAY.com - Pentagon searchers encounter grisly scenes

 

[SAYIT]

It's fun watching the "logic".

No passengers on the plane so that means something else:

Blew up at the Pentagon
Took Down the Lightpoles
Crashed in the Cab Driver's Windshield
Knocked the generator off of it's moorings
Planted the airplane wreckage

Then...

Paid (and are still paying) the investigators to say it was passenger DNA they found
Paid (and are still paying) air traffic controllers to hold to the story of tracking a plane into the Pentagon
Paid (and are still paying) the dozens of eye witnesses who said they saw AA77 hit the building
Paid (and are still paying) the medical examiners, first responders, and other officials who investigated the crash scene

And (did largely the same) at three other crime scenes as well.

And, of course, not one of the ever-expanding list of co-conspiators whispers a word. Not one. At some point the CTs will have everyone but themselves on the hook for 9/11. Everyone.

Are you sure you weren't involved? I wonder about myself.

I can't remember but if I do you will read about it in my new book, "How I Brought Down The Twin Towers!"

 

[daws101]

And, of course, not one of the ever-expanding list of co-conspiators whispers a word. Not one. At some point the CTs will have everyone but themselves on the hook for 9/11. Everyone.

Are you sure you weren't involved? I wonder about myself.

I can't remember but if I do you will read about it in my new book, "How I Brought Down The Twin Towers!"

wow sounds a lot like my new book: WTC, the Jim Morrison and Elvis connection.

 

[eots]

i did read somewhere that there were bodies found at the pentagon still strapped to their chairs.......

Wished i could find it. Had it bookmarked on my old computer, but it died on me.....

you could goggle it .


Location of human remains, forensics, dna identification, personal effects found


excerpt fromcollapse rescue operations at the pentagon 9-11 attack a case study on urban search and rescue disaster response (pdf)

the following approach was applied to the recovery of pentagon incident fatalities: When a victim was located, work in the area was halted to protect the body, personal belongings, and evidence. An fbi evidence team (one of several on constant standby in front of the collapse) would document the site and gather evidence. If physical extrication was required, a rescue squad from the assigned us&r task force was given this task. The next step in the process was a military mortuary team who collected and removed the victim from the building.

All the debris removed from the building was spread out by the heavy equipment, and (on the signal of the ist us&r specialist) the equipment would stop and canine search teams from the us&r task forces would deploy across the material in search of any scent indicating human remains. Then us&r search team members would conduct a physical search for remains, crawling and walking over all the debris. Finally, after being searched three or more times, the debris would be loaded into trucks with skip loaders, where it would be taken to one of the pentagon parking lots to be further combed for human remains and evidence by the fbi, atf, military units, and the arlington police department. (p. 8)

the remains of every flight 77 victim but one (a two-year-old) was recovered and positively identified by forensics experts. Personal effects of many survived the crash and fires and were returned to the victims' families.


Articles on pentagon disaster morgue operations and victim identification


human identification in a post-9/11 world: The attack on american airlines flight 77 and the pentagon (pdf)


personal effects found– flt. 77 passenger suzanne calley's body found –mortuary affairs artifacts


the only two brothers who died at the pentagon on 9/11 were hijackers nawaf and salem al-hazmi. Remains of two brothers were identified by dna:
"the dna results strengthened the hypothesis that two of the terrorists were brothers, as indicated by other evidence. Two of the terrorist str profiles aboard the aa flight 77 gave a sibling index greater than 500. To further test the hypothesis of maternal relatedness, afdil sequenced the hvi and hvii regions of mtdna for these individuals. The sequences generated did match in hvi and hvii, which is consistent with a maternal relationship between the two men."–Material Measurement Laboratory Homepage (p. 83)

https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pentagonflight77evidencesummary

still no bodies

 

[eots]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcLXNT2OrAM]Police Drug Lab Scientist Arrested For Purposely Producing False Positives On Drug Test - YouTube[/ame]

 

[eots]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuBIEJhPqfA]DNA lab investigation - YouTube[/ame]

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Previously I started a thread entitled "do you believe the official 911 story?" It was immediately moved to the conspiracy theory category even though I advocated no theory at all. I then followed that up with a thread called "who's the conspiracy theorist?" Where I pointed out that the defenders of the official story are the conspiracy theorists since there was never a criminal trial and so no facts were established and we are left only with the assertions of the official conspiracy theorists.

In my first thread I pointed to two parts of the story which just don't stand scrutiny. First the vanishing pentagon plane and second the collapse of WTC7. These are not the only parts of the story which don't add up, just the most glaring and obvious.

We are to believe that the highjacker was with very little flight training able to make a very tight descending spiral turn and slam into the Pentagon. Professional pilots have attested to the difficulty of this maneuver and doubted an amateur could pull it off. Then the plane punched thought the side of the Pentagon which is two feet thick steel reinforced concrete, the wings folded back but remained attached to the fuselage as well as the tail section and were dragged into the building where it continued on through the structural support columns (these are very substantial as it is a three story structure) and all the way to where it punched another hole in the "C ring" wall in the interior of the Pentagon. Then the entire plane along with the passengers and baggage almost completely burned up, leaving only a couple of pieces of wreckage which could have come from an airliner. Pictures taken immediately after the impact make clear that the exterior wall was still intact and the large structural failure was due to the ensuing fire so what ever hit the pentagon punched through the exterior as it did the "C ring" wall. I noted that one would expect to find at least the tail section on the ground outside the building and much more debris. The conspiracy theorists (defenders of the official story) pointed to a video of a fighter jet on a rail being slammed into a block of concrete as evidence that the plane would have been obliterated, but the video doesn't show the aftermath so it's hard to tell what was left of the plane, besides if the plane was obliterated upon contact how did it punch through the exterior wall, the structural columns and the "C"ring wall? Additionally, even if all these improbable events did occur, the idea that the plane was almost entirely consumed by fire is silly. Aluminum melts at around 1600degrees F but does not burn until heated to over 6000degrees F far beyond the temps resulting from hydrocarbon fires. There should have been large globs of melted aluminum inside the pentagon but the pictures of the aftermath don't show this. Finally I pointed out that there is YouTube video of an airliner of like size and weight which crashed on takeoff in Lagos Nigeria. It slammed into the side of a much less substantial wood frame apartment building. It did not penetrate all the way through. The tail section as expected was almost untouched and though the plane exploded and burned the airframe is easily recognized, and passengers and luggage are clearly evident. The conspiracy theorists want to hang their hat on the fact that some debris which looks similar to airliner parts were found and that light poles out side the Pentagon were knocked down or that DNA was "found" inside the Pentagon days later. Clearly, this was a conspiracy and if as I am saying it was not as a result of the official conspiracy theory, then the real conspirators had every motivation to plant phony evidence to cover their tracks.

Then there is WTC7, the smoking gun as it were. Here, if it weren't so monstrously evil it would be laughable. The evidence which can be gleaned overwhelmingly points to controlled demolition. Watch the YouTube video of the collapse, it falls neatly straight down at near free fall speed into its own footprint. This can ONLY happen if ALL the support columns fail simultaneously on each floor and synchronously from floor to floor. The chances of this happening from a random event are so vanishingly small that it must be considered IMPOSSIBLE! The NIST report asserts that this was the result of a moderate office fire but presented no science to back it up. They may as well have blamed it on fairies. Again YouTube video provides an example of what structural failure due to fire looks like. Look at the 2005 Windsor Tower fire in Madrid Spain. Here you see a modern steel frame high rise fully engulfed in fire. It rages uncontrolled for nearly two days and finally there is some structural failure. This failure is as would be expected, near the top (heat rises), slow in developing and asymmetrical. The aftermath shows a burned out wreck but with the structural frame largely in tact. The building did not simply collapse entirely in seconds.
If you are honest with yourself you simply can't ignore the obvious, WTC7 was brought down by controlled demolition.

THE IMPOSSIBLE DIDN'T HAPPEN ON 911!

Could you be a little more verbose next time you start another asshole thread on your insane stupid absurd ridiculous idiotic pet conspiracy notion?

Thanks.

 

[SAYIT]

Police Drug Lab Scientist Arrested For Purposely Producing False Positives On Drug Test - YouTube

Well there you have it! Irrefutable "proof" that 9/11 was a gov't blk op!
Thanks for playin', Princess!

 

[SFC Ollie]

DNA lab investigation - YouTube

Appreciate you proving that when labs are wrong they get investigated ......

 

[wihosa]

Previously I started a thread entitled "do you believe the official 911 story?" It was immediately moved to the conspiracy theory category even though I advocated no theory at all. I then followed that up with a thread called "who's the conspiracy theorist?" Where I pointed out that the defenders of the official story are the conspiracy theorists since there was never a criminal trial and so no facts were established and we are left only with the assertions of the official conspiracy theorists.

In my first thread I pointed to two parts of the story which just don't stand scrutiny. First the vanishing pentagon plane and second the collapse of WTC7. These are not the only parts of the story which don't add up, just the most glaring and obvious.

We are to believe that the highjacker was with very little flight training able to make a very tight descending spiral turn and slam into the Pentagon. Professional pilots have attested to the difficulty of this maneuver and doubted an amateur could pull it off. Then the plane punched thought the side of the Pentagon which is two feet thick steel reinforced concrete, the wings folded back but remained attached to the fuselage as well as the tail section and were dragged into the building where it continued on through the structural support columns (these are very substantial as it is a three story structure) and all the way to where it punched another hole in the "C ring" wall in the interior of the Pentagon. Then the entire plane along with the passengers and baggage almost completely burned up, leaving only a couple of pieces of wreckage which could have come from an airliner. Pictures taken immediately after the impact make clear that the exterior wall was still intact and the large structural failure was due to the ensuing fire so what ever hit the pentagon punched through the exterior as it did the "C ring" wall. I noted that one would expect to find at least the tail section on the ground outside the building and much more debris. The conspiracy theorists (defenders of the official story) pointed to a video of a fighter jet on a rail being slammed into a block of concrete as evidence that the plane would have been obliterated, but the video doesn't show the aftermath so it's hard to tell what was left of the plane, besides if the plane was obliterated upon contact how did it punch through the exterior wall, the structural columns and the "C"ring wall? Additionally, even if all these improbable events did occur, the idea that the plane was almost entirely consumed by fire is silly. Aluminum melts at around 1600degrees F but does not burn until heated to over 6000degrees F far beyond the temps resulting from hydrocarbon fires. There should have been large globs of melted aluminum inside the pentagon but the pictures of the aftermath don't show this. Finally I pointed out that there is YouTube video of an airliner of like size and weight which crashed on takeoff in Lagos Nigeria. It slammed into the side of a much less substantial wood frame apartment building. It did not penetrate all the way through. The tail section as expected was almost untouched and though the plane exploded and burned the airframe is easily recognized, and passengers and luggage are clearly evident. The conspiracy theorists want to hang their hat on the fact that some debris which looks similar to airliner parts were found and that light poles out side the Pentagon were knocked down or that DNA was "found" inside the Pentagon days later. Clearly, this was a conspiracy and if as I am saying it was not as a result of the official conspiracy theory, then the real conspirators had every motivation to plant phony evidence to cover their tracks.

Then there is WTC7, the smoking gun as it were. Here, if it weren't so monstrously evil it would be laughable. The evidence which can be gleaned overwhelmingly points to controlled demolition. Watch the YouTube video of the collapse, it falls neatly straight down at near free fall speed into its own footprint. This can ONLY happen if ALL the support columns fail simultaneously on each floor and synchronously from floor to floor. The chances of this happening from a random event are so vanishingly small that it must be considered IMPOSSIBLE! The NIST report asserts that this was the result of a moderate office fire but presented no science to back it up. They may as well have blamed it on fairies. Again YouTube video provides an example of what structural failure due to fire looks like. Look at the 2005 Windsor Tower fire in Madrid Spain. Here you see a modern steel frame high rise fully engulfed in fire. It rages uncontrolled for nearly two days and finally there is some structural failure. This failure is as would be expected, near the top (heat rises), slow in developing and asymmetrical. The aftermath shows a burned out wreck but with the structural frame largely in tact. The building did not simply collapse entirely in seconds.
If you are honest with yourself you simply can't ignore the obvious, WTC7 was brought down by controlled demolition.

THE IMPOSSIBLE DIDN'T HAPPEN ON 911!

Could you be a little more verbose next time you start another asshole thread on your insane stupid absurd ridiculous idiotic pet conspiracy notion?

Thanks.

I'm sorry, reading a couple of paragraphs is too much for you?

I summed up the official conspiracy theory in a concise way (in regards to the two portions which I was speaking of). I wasn't redundant in anything I said so to call it verbose doesn't seem applicable. Regardless, I take from your invective filled diatribe you are a defender of the official conspiracy, so why don't you make a principled defense?

Or like the other official conspiracy theorists you can simply call names.