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What about people that use them for food?haven't read it yet, only what the op said, but allowed to kill MOTHER bears with CUBS in their Den, just seems WRONG WRONG AND WRONG????
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What about people that use them for food?haven't read it yet, only what the op said, but allowed to kill MOTHER bears with CUBS in their Den, just seems WRONG WRONG AND WRONG????
I know Tiny but this simply seems wrong to me...I still have not read the articles posted yet....haven't read it yet, only what the op said, but allowed to kill MOTHER bears with CUBS in their Den, just seems WRONG WRONG AND WRONG????
This is a planned cull that would be directed by Alaska's Fish and Game department I would imagine.This is to protect First Nations food supplies. Oh and baby bears grow up to be very very big bears.
But killing a mama bear in it's den and it's cubs, while sleeping/hibernating is simply awful, and all the shows I have watched on Alaska and the Natives and the way they respect the lives of all animals, and kill only for food purposes and an immediate threat to their own lives, and thank God for their kills for providing food.... yes, there is some trapping which seems cruel but they not only use their furs for their own coats and blankets for survival, but they will eat the animal if edible and they will use every single part of the animal killed, from making gelatin out of their tendons, string and rope , making tools and jewelry and buttons out of bones....just making the absolute most out of every kill to show their respect and thanks for the animal who gave their life for them...
Doesn't fit or jive, in my head, with killing a mother and her young, while completely peaceful and sleeping. That's hard for me to stomach....
A measure like killing a bear and cubs while sleeping, just does not FIT with all that I thought they were, as human beings living in unison with Nature.
If they are natives, they have always had the right to. According to the regulations, it says, "Non-Subsistence Take of Wildlife."What about people that use them for food?haven't read it yet, only what the op said, but allowed to kill MOTHER bears with CUBS in their Den, just seems WRONG WRONG AND WRONG????
I know Tiny but this simply seems wrong to me...I still have not read the articles posted yet....haven't read it yet, only what the op said, but allowed to kill MOTHER bears with CUBS in their Den, just seems WRONG WRONG AND WRONG????
This is a planned cull that would be directed by Alaska's Fish and Game department I would imagine.This is to protect First Nations food supplies. Oh and baby bears grow up to be very very big bears.
But killing a mama bear in it's den and it's cubs, while sleeping/hibernating is simply awful, and all the shows I have watched on Alaska and the Natives and the way they respect the lives of all animals, and kill only for food purposes and an immediate threat to their own lives, and thank God for their kills for providing food.... yes, there is some trapping which seems cruel but they not only use their furs for their own coats and blankets for survival, but they will eat the animal if edible and they will use every single part of the animal killed, from making gelatin out of their tendons, string and rope , making tools and jewelry and buttons out of bones....just making the absolute most out of every kill to show their respect and thanks for the animal who gave their life for them...
Doesn't fit or jive, in my head, with killing a mother and her young, while completely peaceful and sleeping. That's hard for me to stomach....
A measure like killing a bear and cubs while sleeping, just does not FIT with all that I thought they were, as human beings living in unison with Nature.
That's only part of the story, that just says, in effect, "no."Please provide a link. Without it we can only comment on your hearsay. Reading the bill in its entirety may provide different and relevant insight into this matter.
H.J.Res.69 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): Providing for congressional disapproval under chapter 8 of title 5, United States Code, of the final rule of the Department of the Interior relating to "Non-Subsistence Take of Wildlife, and Public Participation and Closure Procedures, on National Wildlife Refuges in Alaska".
Why not read what they are saying, "no" to?
https://www.fws.gov/policy/library/2016/2016-18117.pdf
27 pages of arguments and regulations that are the State's business, not the federal government's. Do YOU live in Alaska? Why is this any of my state's business, even if I oppose it, why should I care? It's none of my business. It's like me trying to tell Germany how they should manage their wildlife.
That's only part of the story, that just says, in effect, "no."Please provide a link. Without it we can only comment on your hearsay. Reading the bill in its entirety may provide different and relevant insight into this matter.
H.J.Res.69 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): Providing for congressional disapproval under chapter 8 of title 5, United States Code, of the final rule of the Department of the Interior relating to "Non-Subsistence Take of Wildlife, and Public Participation and Closure Procedures, on National Wildlife Refuges in Alaska".
Why not read what they are saying, "no" to?
https://www.fws.gov/policy/library/2016/2016-18117.pdf
27 pages of arguments and regulations that are the State's business, not the federal government's. Do YOU live in Alaska? Why is this any of my state's business, even if I oppose it, why should I care? It's none of my business. It's like me trying to tell Germany how they should manage their wildlife.
You can always find an excuse. The bill is flat out wrong and hiding behind other technicalities or semantics to back a bulls hit coward as bill like this is cowardly..and lame.
That's only part of the story, that just says, in effect, "no."Please provide a link. Without it we can only comment on your hearsay. Reading the bill in its entirety may provide different and relevant insight into this matter.
H.J.Res.69 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): Providing for congressional disapproval under chapter 8 of title 5, United States Code, of the final rule of the Department of the Interior relating to "Non-Subsistence Take of Wildlife, and Public Participation and Closure Procedures, on National Wildlife Refuges in Alaska".
Why not read what they are saying, "no" to?
https://www.fws.gov/policy/library/2016/2016-18117.pdf
27 pages of arguments and regulations that are the State's business, not the federal government's. Do YOU live in Alaska? Why is this any of my state's business, even if I oppose it, why should I care? It's none of my business. It's like me trying to tell Germany how they should manage their wildlife.
I can understand wolves and can justify in my head....culling them...I know Tiny but this simply seems wrong to me...I still have not read the articles posted yet....haven't read it yet, only what the op said, but allowed to kill MOTHER bears with CUBS in their Den, just seems WRONG WRONG AND WRONG????
This is a planned cull that would be directed by Alaska's Fish and Game department I would imagine.This is to protect First Nations food supplies. Oh and baby bears grow up to be very very big bears.
But killing a mama bear in it's den and it's cubs, while sleeping/hibernating is simply awful, and all the shows I have watched on Alaska and the Natives and the way they respect the lives of all animals, and kill only for food purposes and an immediate threat to their own lives, and thank God for their kills for providing food.... yes, there is some trapping which seems cruel but they not only use their furs for their own coats and blankets for survival, but they will eat the animal if edible and they will use every single part of the animal killed, from making gelatin out of their tendons, string and rope , making tools and jewelry and buttons out of bones....just making the absolute most out of every kill to show their respect and thanks for the animal who gave their life for them...
Doesn't fit or jive, in my head, with killing a mother and her young, while completely peaceful and sleeping. That's hard for me to stomach....
A measure like killing a bear and cubs while sleeping, just does not FIT with all that I thought they were, as human beings living in unison with Nature.
To you it's a mama bear and babies or a mama wolf and her young. To other wildlife they are predators ripping the throats out of caribou, moose and elk and others.
You have to remember these beasts need our protection now. It's not a hunt. This is not for trophies. It is a true cull.
This will give you an idea of how desperate all are to save these populations from predators. Wildlife biologists are assisting the governments to strike a balance.
"Airlifting Pregnant Caribou Away From Wolves Caribou herds in British Columbia are threatened by a new predator. Indigenous people are taking extreme steps to save them.
After capturing a pregnant female caribou in British Columbia, wildlife biologists prepare to airlift her by helicopter to a pen where she can give birth in safety.
On a clear sunny day in March, in a snow-covered area of the South Peace River region of British Columbia, a female caribou is on the ground, struggling to get back on its feet.
Surrounded by a team of biologists, veterinarians, and First Nations community members, the sedated animal is slowly opening its eyes. Cec Heron, lands and resource manager for the West Moberly First Nations, gently strokes its back and speaks to it in a soft voice.
“I am just letting her know that she is now in a good place and will be very well looked after,” Heron says.
Along with ten other pregnant females, this one has just been captured in the Rocky Mountains, by a net fired from a low-flying helicopter, and airlifted to a valley about 35 miles east of Mackenzie. In a pen guarded day and night by First Nations shepherds, protected from wolves and bears, the caribou will give birth and raise their calves, then be returned to the wild when they are less vulnerable.
AND check out the statistics. And I love this Chief. He puts it so beautifully. That we have to be there for the caribou.
The woodland caribou that live in and around the Rockies in southern British Columbia and Alberta are listed as threatened by the Canadian government; the committee of scientific experts that advises the government considers them endangered. In the South Peace region, the Klinse-Za herd has declined from 191 animals in 1997 to only 16 in 2013, with no calves surviving predation that year.
“Caribou were here for us when we needed help. We have to be there for them now,” says Roland Willson, chief of the West Moberly First Nations, one of two aboriginal groups behind the penning project. “We have to do everything we can to try and fix the wrong that has been done here.”
Airlifting Pregnant Caribou Away From Wolves
It's a cul of the wolfl, not eating the animals. td is wrong about the bear cull. The First Nations chief opposes killing bears.Actually it does. I believe people using the animals for a food source is exempt.It has nothing to do with First Peoples' food supplies.
Where in blazes did you get that nonsense?
Can we sodomize the sleeping bears first? You know, like the heartless 18th century barbarians we all want to regress to?If their decision passes into law, hunters will be allowed to enter dens where bears are hibernating and kill their entire families. They would also be allowed to shoot and kill wolf families, including their pups.
Slaughtering entire families of hibernating bears is cowardly and inhumane. Bears pose no danger to humans or livestock when they're sleeping through the winter. Culling wolf families is a short-sighted plan that will push their numbers toward extinction again.
I can understand wolves and can justify in my head....culling them...I know Tiny but this simply seems wrong to me...I still have not read the articles posted yet....haven't read it yet, only what the op said, but allowed to kill MOTHER bears with CUBS in their Den, just seems WRONG WRONG AND WRONG????
This is a planned cull that would be directed by Alaska's Fish and Game department I would imagine.This is to protect First Nations food supplies. Oh and baby bears grow up to be very very big bears.
But killing a mama bear in it's den and it's cubs, while sleeping/hibernating is simply awful, and all the shows I have watched on Alaska and the Natives and the way they respect the lives of all animals, and kill only for food purposes and an immediate threat to their own lives, and thank God for their kills for providing food.... yes, there is some trapping which seems cruel but they not only use their furs for their own coats and blankets for survival, but they will eat the animal if edible and they will use every single part of the animal killed, from making gelatin out of their tendons, string and rope , making tools and jewelry and buttons out of bones....just making the absolute most out of every kill to show their respect and thanks for the animal who gave their life for them...
Doesn't fit or jive, in my head, with killing a mother and her young, while completely peaceful and sleeping. That's hard for me to stomach....
A measure like killing a bear and cubs while sleeping, just does not FIT with all that I thought they were, as human beings living in unison with Nature.
To you it's a mama bear and babies or a mama wolf and her young. To other wildlife they are predators ripping the throats out of caribou, moose and elk and others.
You have to remember these beasts need our protection now. It's not a hunt. This is not for trophies. It is a true cull.
This will give you an idea of how desperate all are to save these populations from predators. Wildlife biologists are assisting the governments to strike a balance.
"Airlifting Pregnant Caribou Away From Wolves Caribou herds in British Columbia are threatened by a new predator. Indigenous people are taking extreme steps to save them.
After capturing a pregnant female caribou in British Columbia, wildlife biologists prepare to airlift her by helicopter to a pen where she can give birth in safety.
On a clear sunny day in March, in a snow-covered area of the South Peace River region of British Columbia, a female caribou is on the ground, struggling to get back on its feet.
Surrounded by a team of biologists, veterinarians, and First Nations community members, the sedated animal is slowly opening its eyes. Cec Heron, lands and resource manager for the West Moberly First Nations, gently strokes its back and speaks to it in a soft voice.
“I am just letting her know that she is now in a good place and will be very well looked after,” Heron says.
Along with ten other pregnant females, this one has just been captured in the Rocky Mountains, by a net fired from a low-flying helicopter, and airlifted to a valley about 35 miles east of Mackenzie. In a pen guarded day and night by First Nations shepherds, protected from wolves and bears, the caribou will give birth and raise their calves, then be returned to the wild when they are less vulnerable.
AND check out the statistics. And I love this Chief. He puts it so beautifully. That we have to be there for the caribou.
The woodland caribou that live in and around the Rockies in southern British Columbia and Alberta are listed as threatened by the Canadian government; the committee of scientific experts that advises the government considers them endangered. In the South Peace region, the Klinse-Za herd has declined from 191 animals in 1997 to only 16 in 2013, with no calves surviving predation that year.
“Caribou were here for us when we needed help. We have to be there for them now,” says Roland Willson, chief of the West Moberly First Nations, one of two aboriginal groups behind the penning project. “We have to do everything we can to try and fix the wrong that has been done here.”
Airlifting Pregnant Caribou Away From Wolves
I have a problem doing this to Smokey the Bear and Yogi Bear!
In Maine we control Black Bears by extending hunting season if there are too many and reducing hunting season if there are too few....much like we control our deer heard...
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY
I have a wild Black Bear Friend, he/she makes a stop by my house every year for the past 5 or 6 years, when she/he wakes up from hibernating....there is a least a couple of thousand of acres of woods surrounding us and I have no idea where she/he lives or where her den is....I just know about 6 years ago her momma, whose back was as tall as our economy car when on all fours , brought her/him here as a very small cub, and every year since he's come back, bigger and bigger every year, to our bird feeder and pulls the metal stand it hangs on to the ground and sits like a panda bear eating the sunflower seeds or suet that;s hanging, and Matt and I run out to the deck to scream and yell to shew it away, and he/she ALWAYS turns towards us, seems to have the most beautiful look in her/his endearing eyes and smiles at us, like saying ''hey, how are ya? long time no see!'', then he grabs the bird feeder container and runs like the dickens! And we don't see him or her until next April! He/she should be here soon....it's coming up on the time....though we still have snow on the ground and got snow again last night, so that could push the wake up out a little.... Black bears are the most beautiful creature I have ever seen close up in my entire life!
Hopefully I won't be the headlines some day!
ON THE WOODED COAST OF MAINE, LADY KILLED, MAULED AND EATEN BY BLACK BEAR!
It's a cul of the wolfl, not eating the animals. td is wrong about the bear cull. The First Nations chief opposes killing bears.Actually it does. I believe people using the animals for a food source is exempt.It has nothing to do with First Peoples' food supplies.
Where in blazes did you get that nonsense?
For crying out loud, you are conflating a BC local wolf cull with the killing of hiberating animals.
Come on, you are better than this.
No, this gives you an ideal how they're seizing the opportunityTo you it's a mama bear and babies or a mama wolf and her young. To other wildlife they are predators ripping the throats out of caribou, moose and elk and others.
You have to remember these beasts need our protection now. It's not a hunt. This is not for trophies. It is a true cull.
This will give you an idea of how desperate all are to save these populations from predators. Wildlife biologists are assisting the governments to strike a balance.
No, this gives you an ideal how they're seizing the opportunityTo you it's a mama bear and babies or a mama wolf and her young. To other wildlife they are predators ripping the throats out of caribou, moose and elk and others.
You have to remember these beasts need our protection now. It's not a hunt. This is not for trophies. It is a true cull.
This will give you an idea of how desperate all are to save these populations from predators. Wildlife biologists are assisting the governments to strike a balance.
to drive up the number of moose and caribou for trophy hunters!
This is so fucking appalling on so many levels...
The only reason for protecting moose, caribou, etc
should be for sustaining a food source for predators and locals
Protecting prey, from predators, for trophy hunters...
unfuckingbelievable !
Just look at who sponsored the bill...
enough said!
There is no need for a hibernation cull, particularly when much of it is not for the First Peoples but for agribusiness benefit.