The Hidden Threat of Communism in America

[Senter]

Prove how I made it up.

How? In what you would call a "brain" I expect.

 

[Stashman]

How? In what you would call a "brain" I expect.

You have proved my case. Thank you!

 

[Senter]

What bullshit?

Everything you would say about communist society for one thing.

You asked me to prove you wrong. That would mean I should prove professors were not installed into American "universitys", prove that communists were not elected into government, prove communists do not control "the entire party", and that Obama is not a communist brought in to "push communist ideology".

I guess you don't know most such negatives cannot be proven even when they're valid. Point is, it is your job to prove your claims are true or you have nothing to argue.

 

[Senter]

You have proved my case. Thank you!

Heh. You don't even know how to argue your point ..... ––which you don't have anyway.

 

[Stashman]

Everything you would say about communist society for one thing.

You asked me to prove you wrong. That would mean I should prove professors were not installed into American "universitys", prove that communists were not elected into government, prove communists do not control "the entire party", and that Obama is not a communist brought in to "push communist ideology".

I guess you don't know most such negatives cannot be proven even when they're valid. Point is, it is your job to prove your claims are true or you have nothing to argue.

The reason you can't prove me wrong is because you know I am right. Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev said: "We cannot expect the Americans to jump from capitalism to communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of socialism, until they suddenly awake to find they have communism."

 

[Stashman]

Heh. You don't even know how to argue your point ..... ––which you don't have anyway.

Communism’s 45 goals were read into the Congressional Record by Congressman Albert S. Herlong Jr., (D-Florida), in 1963. These goals were gleaned from the testimony given to Congress by scholars and from the writings of current or former Communists.


Socialism is seen as the bridge between Capitalism and Communism. The major difference between Socialism and Communism is in the method of takeover. Socialism (and Progressivism) believes that it can centralize all control of the individual, land and industry by peaceful, but gradual, legislation; whereas Communism seeks a violent and final confrontation to eliminate all dissension to achieve its Utopian goal of a Stateless and Classless society.


But make no mistake; what is the same in all three ideologies is the desire to seize monolithic control of society. Mussolini termed this the Totalitarian Society: “Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State.”


In order to get a better understanding of our storm clouds, let’s exam a few of the 45 Communist, and by extension Socialist and Progressive, goals that have been read into our Congressional Record:

1. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
2. Get control of the schools and teachers’ associations. Soften the curriculum.
3. Gain control of all student newspapers.
4. Infiltrate the press.
5. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV and pictures.
6. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and press.
7. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in the media.
8. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, and healthy.” 9. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion.
9. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principal of “separation of church and state.”
10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate and old-fashioned.
11. Discredit the American founding fathers as selfish aristocrats [and racists].
12. Belittle American culture and discourage the teaching of American history.
13. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
14. Infiltrate and gain control of big business and unions.
15. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as mental health or social problems.
16. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
17. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents.
18. Repeal the Connally Reservation, allowing the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.

 

[Stashman]

Sure got quiet in here didn't it.

 

[The Original Tree]

The raving nutters flogged the same conspiracy theory 50 years ago when the flu shot came out.

You get to starve for you country as "it is your patriotic duty."
You get bare shelves at the store because "we are all in this together."
You get supply chain issues because "we are from the government and we are here to help"
You get oppressive taxes and oppressive mandates cuz "its for your own good."
You can't drive your car to work because gas is too expensive and The Church of The Holy Melting Iceberg says you are Evil if you do.
You should believe in The Lame Stream Media's Leftist Propaganda or you are a Commie, Putin Loving, Racist.
You should applaud a man competing against women in Women's Swimming, because that is "Equality for Women!"

Welcome to the Joe Biden Regime family fun time hour.

 

[Senter]

The reason you can't prove me wrong is because you know I am right.

I should be able to prove a negative? Then let's see you PROVE Trump didn't ever ask Stormy Daniels for a "golden shower". If you can't, you forfeit the argument.

 

[Stashman]

I should be able to prove a negative? Then let's see you PROVE Trump didn't ever ask Stormy Daniels for a "golden shower". If you can't, you forfeit the argument.

Go back a post or two. I proved my end alright. Stormy Daniels has nothing to do with this topic.

 

[Senter]

Go back a post or two. I proved my end alright. Stormy Daniels has nothing to do with this topic.

Yeah because you can't prove a negative. Learn something about logic.

 

[Batcat]

See? Can you tell me what "communist society" would be according to Marx?
Can you tell me how Marx said communist society would come about?
Have you ever heard of the Marxian term "wither away" and what it refers to?

If you don't know these things then you don't know what communist society would be. And if you DO know these things, then you know communist society cannot be imposed; it has to evolve, naturally in its own time.

But most people prefer to go on in their ignorance and bullshit. So you have a choice, Bat.

So to me it looks like the Democratic Party is trying to force this nation to “evolve.” Their end run goal they call democratic socialism but it will quickly morph into Marist socialism and then pure communism.

I want no part of any of that crap. I like our current form of government although we have a major corruption problem. I retired when I was 59 and haven’t worked a day since. I am not “rich” but I don‘t live in a budget either.

My solution is to NEVER vote for another Democrat again and try to convince others to do the same. Currently it looks as if the Democratic Party will be much less of a problem after the midterms.

 

[Senter]

Communism’s 45 goals were read into the Congressional Record by Congressman Albert S. Herlong Jr., (D-Florida), in 1963. These goals were gleaned from the testimony given to Congress by scholars and from the writings of current or former Communists.


Socialism is seen as the bridge between Capitalism and Communism. The major difference between Socialism and Communism is in the method of takeover. Socialism (and Progressivism) believes that it can centralize all control of the individual, land and industry by peaceful, but gradual, legislation; whereas Communism seeks a violent and final confrontation to eliminate all dissension to achieve its Utopian goal of a Stateless and Classless society.


But make no mistake; what is the same in all three ideologies is the desire to seize monolithic control of society. Mussolini termed this the Totalitarian Society: “Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State.”


In order to get a better understanding of our storm clouds, let’s exam a few of the 45 Communist, and by extension Socialist and Progressive, goals that have been read into our Congressional Record:

1. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
2. Get control of the schools and teachers’ associations. Soften the curriculum.
3. Gain control of all student newspapers.
4. Infiltrate the press.
5. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV and pictures.
6. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and press.
7. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in the media.
8. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, and healthy.” 9. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion.
9. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principal of “separation of church and state.”
10. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate and old-fashioned.
11. Discredit the American founding fathers as selfish aristocrats [and racists].
12. Belittle American culture and discourage the teaching of American history.
13. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
14. Infiltrate and gain control of big business and unions.
15. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as mental health or social problems.
16. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
17. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents.
18. Repeal the Connally Reservation, allowing the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.

Oh this is GOOD and I just now found this gem. Let's look at the relevant parts....

1. "Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States."

That's the goal of both parties. Republicans want to see right wingers like Manchin and Sinima populate the Democratic Party. They already have the Pubbie Party 100% in lock step.

2. "Get control of the schools and teachers’ associations. Soften the curriculum."

The right (republicans) are infiltrating school boards and taking them over by their numbers of committed dopes. They have agents in positions of power such that they are able to pass laws and rules to ban books and to tell teachers what they can and can't teach.

3. "Gain control of all student newspapers."

Yup, that's what the right is doing.

4. "Infiltrate the press."

Seventy-five major RW websites - The 75 Most Popular Right-Of-Center Websites - John Hawkins' Right Wing News

5. "Gain control of key positions in radio, TV and pictures."

Fox News, OAN, Blaze TV, NDT, First TV, Pluto TV, Newsmax, Breitbart, Daily Caller, Federalist...

6. "Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and press."

Just substitute "racism" for "obscenity". Meanwhile your claim goes back to 1963 yet we don't see your prediction happening. But this has nothing to do with communism anyway.

Let's move this along....

7 - and 8 have nothing to do with communism. It's just your imagination and gullibility.
9 - was the work of the SCOTUS.
10 - the RWers are currently trashing the Constitution while claiming it.
11 - RWers are discrediting Democrats of our early years for slavery and whatever else they can dig up.
12 - RWers don't want us to teach or even know about Black Wall Street and the real history of blacks, or even The Powell Memorandum. But I don't see the left belittling the culture.
13 - The only ones discrediting the FBI is the RWers today. (you didn't think this one through, did you? LOL!)
14 - The right, starting with the Powell Memo, have crushed unions, reducing their membership from about 25% to about 7%. And Big Business? Ridiculous since corporations are controlled by rich shareholders and Board members.
15 - Pretty absurd since it never happened. And just what is the basis of behavioral problems in your estimation?
16 - DONE! Yup, the conservatives wanted to find a way to supercharge corporate and capitalist profits and they thought getting women to go to work at lower wages was the key, but with the freedom of their independence more of them wanted divorces. Thank the political right.
17 - Never happened.
18 - huh?


Well Stash, it looks like you fell flat on your face and knocked your dick in the dirt.

 

[Stashman]

Oh this is GOOD and I just now found this gem. Let's look at the relevant parts....

1. "Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States."

That's the goal of both parties. Republicans want to see right wingers like Manchin and Sinima populate the Democratic Party. They already have the Pubbie Party 100% in lock step.

2. "Get control of the schools and teachers’ associations. Soften the curriculum."

The right (republicans) are infiltrating school boards and taking them over by their numbers of committed dopes. They have agents in positions of power such that they are able to pass laws and rules to ban books and to tell teachers what they can and can't teach.

3. "Gain control of all student newspapers."

Yup, that's what the right is doing.

4. "Infiltrate the press."

Seventy-five major RW websites - The 75 Most Popular Right-Of-Center Websites - John Hawkins' Right Wing News

5. "Gain control of key positions in radio, TV and pictures."

Fox News, OAN, Blaze TV, NDT, First TV, Pluto TV, Newsmax, Breitbart, Daily Caller, Federalist...

6. "Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and press."

Just substitute "racism" for "obscenity". Meanwhile your claim goes back to 1963 yet we don't see your prediction happening. But this has nothing to do with communism anyway.

Let's move this along....

7 - and 8 have nothing to do with communism. It's just your imagination and gullibility.
9 - was the work of the SCOTUS.
10 - the RWers are currently trashing the Constitution while claiming it.
11 - RWers are discrediting Democrats of our early years for slavery and whatever else they can dig up.
12 - RWers don't want us to teach or even know about Black Wall Street and the real history of blacks, or even The Powell Memorandum. But I don't see the left belittling the culture.
13 - The only ones discrediting the FBI is the RWers today. (you didn't think this one through, did you? LOL!)
14 - The right, starting with the Powell Memo, have crushed unions, reducing their membership from about 25% to about 7%. And Big Business? Ridiculous since corporations are controlled by rich shareholders and Board members.
15 - Pretty absurd since it never happened. And just what is the basis of behavioral problems in your estimation?
16 - DONE! Yup, the conservatives wanted to find a way to supercharge corporate and capitalist profits and they thought getting women to go to work at lower wages was the key, but with the freedom of their independence more of them wanted divorces. Thank the political right.
17 - Never happened.
18 - huh?


Well Stash, it looks like you fell flat on your face and knocked your dick in the dirt.

Nice try. You got owned, now swallowing it.

 

[WEATHER53]

Unhidden communism is wearing a mask right now. It shows the government that you don’t mind wearing one even when not recommended or needed. Sends a very bad sheep message to the Fauci fakes.

 

[Senter]

So to me it looks like the Democratic Party is trying to force this nation to “evolve.” Their end run goal they call democratic socialism but it will quickly morph into Marist socialism and then pure communism.

Wow. That's some serious uninformed speculation and fantasy ye got there. Like you said, it "looks to you" and only you.

I want no part of any of that crap. I like our current form of government although we have a major corruption problem. I retired when I was 59 and haven’t worked a day since. I am not “rich” but I don‘t live in a budget either.

So you want "no part of that crap" but it lives rent-free in your brain.

My solution is to NEVER vote for another Democrat again and try to convince others to do the same. Currently it looks as if the Democratic Party will be much less of a problem after the midterms.

And you just give up on any attempt to understand anything about the subject you so deeply hate without knowing why. IMAGINE! You're viciously against and hate communism, but like a dog chasing his tail and biting it bloody, you have no idea why you hate it because you don't understand it and you don't even have the curiosity to find out anything about it to know why you're so wrong. Pathetic.

 

[Senter]

Nice try. You got owned, now swallowing it.

 

[Batcat]

The reason you can't prove me wrong is because you know I am right. Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev said: "We cannot expect the Americans to jump from capitalism to communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of socialism, until they suddenly awake to find they have communism."

We live in what is considered the most successful nation in the world.

If we can rid our government of corrupt politicians we can hold that position far in the future. Why in the world would we ever want to change to a form of government that has failed over and over?

That would be like the New England Patriots \after winning a Super Bowl deciding to get rid of their quarterback, entire coaching staff as well as their entire team and start over from scratch.

 

[Batcat]

Wow. That's some serious uninformed speculation and fantasy ye got there. Like you said, it "looks to you" and only you.



So you want "no part of that crap" but it lives rent-free in your brain.



And you just give up on any attempt to understand anything about the subject you so deeply hate without knowing why. IMAGINE! You're viciously against and hate communism, but like a dog chasing his tail and biting it bloody, you have no idea why you hate it because you don't understand it and you don't even have the curiosity to find out anything about it to know why you're so wrong. Pathetic.

I learned plenty about communism by watching how it worked in Russian, Cuba and Venezuela. Communism does not work. I watched Cubans put their lives at risk escaping Cuba on rafts and improvised boats.

I also lived in a Cuban neighborhood in Tampa and listened to what the immigrant Cubans thought of Castro and communism. I remember one who had just reached the United States who said, “You have a wonderful country here.”

Plus I value the Bill of Rights expecially the First and Second Amendments. Communist governments in practice do not favor freedom of speech or the right to bear arms. I enjoy posting on forums such as this and I have a concealed weapons permit and carry when I am out and about. Therefore I have absolutely no interest in our nation changing from a representative democracy to a communist form of government.

Nor do I have any desire to study how “wonderful” communism is because that is just bullshit.

8 Reasons Why Communism Doesn't Work

Communism always seems like a good idea in theory, but why doesn't it work in practice?

www.theodysseyonline.com

Why Communism Failed

Three years after the Russian Revolution, an Austrian economist, Ludwig von Mises, argued that Communism would fail and explained why.

fee.org

 

[Senter]

I learned plenty about communism by watching how it worked in Russian, Cuba and Venezuela. Communism does not work.

Are you talking about communist society?