The great global warming fraud

[Old Rocks]

Quick give us a crisis we can turn into decades of research.

We are running out of rats to kill.

My but you are a stupid ****. LOL We have already had decades of research, and the result is we are significantly altering our environment in a negative fashion by increasing the GHG's in the atmosphere. In 1981 Dr. James Hansen published what was the seminal paper on this, and his predictions have stood up, while those of the deniers have all been wrong.

NASA GISS: Hansen et al. 1981: Climate impact of increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide

www.giss.nasa.gov

 

[HikerGuy83]

We’ve all enjoyed improvement of quality of life and other benefits from burning fossil fuels, though. The question is what do we do about it? I think from an engineering point of view, we have to both mitigate climate change — reduce the rate of global temperature rise — and adapt to it.

Adaptation is going to be just as important, if not more important, than mitigation. Even if we put no more CO2 in the atmosphere now, we are still going to have problems. Human beings have been adapting over millennia, and we can do it better than our ancestors. I think the real issue is political will. There are engineering changes that can be made — for example, building houses that are more resilient to wind and rain — but the issue is political will."

This schtick is the mantra of the dark money green scammers that want all these great projects that are meaningless to be put on the books so they can make a bunch of money off of fools like you.

Go protest on the interstate you dumbass.

 

[Old Rocks]

What do leftists need with scientists or engineers to promote global warming alarmism nonsense? They have their own hand-picked experts to make the case for them.

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Damn another really stupid ass chimes in with nonsense. Ah well, as the disasters pile up, fools like you denying anything is happening will continue to look more and more like the idiots you are.

 

[HikerGuy83]

My but you are a stupid ****.

Might be....but at least 30 IQ points above you.

We have already had decades of research, and the result is we are significantly altering our environment in a negative fashion by increasing the GHG's in the atmosphere.

That is the application of lab scale research to global climate systems.

They have nothing.

They can't explain their lack of a predictive model and they have a hard time even fitting models to what has already happened.

OHHHHHHHHHHH the boogeyman hurricane season is going to be so bad.....as in there were no hurricanes for a couple of years after.

You stupid fool.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Damn another really stupid ass chimes in with nonsense.

Do you enjoy looking like an ass or is it just a sense of entitlement for you?

Ah well, as the disasters pile up, fools like you denying anything is happening will continue to look more and more like the idiots you are.

Yeah...all those disasters.

Your prophet Al Gore is batting 1000% on being wrong.

 

[markef]

LOL The cause of the warming is the fact that the GHG levels have been increasing rapidly since the industrial revolution. And that is human caused.

Global warming alarmists have been driven to fear by propagandists who use badly interpreted data to push an erroneous agenda. Al Gore's flooding of NY City predictions failed miserably years ago. These people are lying either deliberately or ignorantly.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Damn another really stupid ass chimes in with nonsense. Ah well, as the disasters pile up, fools like you denying anything is happening will continue to look more and more like the idiots you are.

The global warming scam....

 

[HikerGuy83]

Global warming alarmists have been driven to fear by propagandists who use badly interpreted data to push an erroneous agenda. Al Gore's flooding of NY City predictions failed miserably years ago. These people are lying either deliberately or ignorantly.

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I better buy some life-preservers.

 

[Old Rocks]

This schtick is the mantra of the dark money green scammers that want all these great projects that are meaningless to be put on the books so they can make a bunch of money off of fools like you.

Go protest on the interstate you dumbass.

So green energy scammers are why the utilities in Texas are installing wind and solar over nuclear and gas, not even considering building new coal plants. You are one silly fool. Totally ignorant of reality concerning climate change caused by a warming globe and the reality of the costs of renewables versus nuclear and fossil fuel plants.

But after you build those fossil fuel power plants, you have to keep paying for the fuel and maintenance.

 

[Old Rocks]

I better buy some life-preservers.

It would be smarter in your case to take some basic community college classes in science.

 

[Old Rocks]

The global warming scam....

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Ah yes, the MAGAts only answer to science, and you just put in a picture. LOL

 

[Old Rocks]

An academic.

Silly ass, an engineer. And more from real engineers, American Society of Mechanical Engineers;

The Solution​

Engineers have both an opportunity and the responsibility to support and lead in global action mitigating climate change. They possess the tools and training critical to generating, implementing, and advancing climate mitigation, adaptation, and resilience technologies and strategies.

ASME actively prepares the engineering world to play its part in addressing these urgent challenges. Occupying a unique position as a global standards developer, educator, and influencer across sectors, industries, and borders, ASME facilitates the enabling environment for consensus-building around technical, science-based climate solutions.

Climate Change - ASME

Learn about ASME's efforts to address climate change through engineering innovation, collaboration, & education. Join us in creating a more sustainable future.

www.asme.org

 

[markef]

So green energy scammers are why the utilities in Texas are installing wind and solar over nuclear and gas, not even considering building new coal plants. You are one silly fool. Totally ignorant of reality concerning climate change caused by a warming globe and the reality of the costs of renewables versus nuclear and fossil fuel plants.

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But after you build those fossil fuel power plants, you have to keep paying for the fuel and maintenance.

Windmills are turning out to be far more problematic that anticipated. The windmill fad may be tapering off.

Are​

The global wind energy sector has faced challenges in meeting expectations for new installations in 2024. Despite a record-breaking year, new wind turbine installations fell short of expectations, reaching 121’305 Megawatt, slightly less than in 2023. Many major markets installed less than in the previous year, with only five of the top twenty countries having growth rates well above the global average. The world saw a dramatic drop in new installed capacity outside of China, with a total of 42’095 Megawatt in 2023 falling to just 34’413 MW in 2024, a drop by 18%. This decline in new installations is a significant concern for the sector's future growth and sustainability.

 

[HikerGuy83]

not even considering building new coal plants.

Coal plants are inefficient and expensive.

Moron.

 

[Old Rocks]

Who gives a flying s**t about scientists.

Check with the engineers. They are the practical ones. They know how things work in the real world.

Look at that scientist....lab coat, bottles and a scope. They try to scale up lab tests to a global system.

Hysterical.

Most engineers are conservative.

Most engineers are not on board with the great global warming retard show.

American Society of Civil Engineers, would you like me to continue with Engineering Societies that are on board with the dangers of climate change? See, you posted dumb shit with nary a link backing your silly shit. And have shown what a fool you are.

Approved by the Energy, Environment, and Water Policy Committee on December 20, 2023
Approved by the Public Policy and Practice Committee on May 1, 2024
Adopted by the Board of Direction on July 18, 2024

Policy​

The American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) supports:

• Government policies that anticipate and prepare for impacts of climate change on the built environment.
• Revising engineering design standards, codes, regulations, and associated laws to strengthen the sustainability and resiliency of infrastructure at of being affected by climate change.
• Cooperative research among engineers and climate, weather, and life scientists to gain a better understanding of the magnitudes and consequences of future climate extremes and improve projection certainty.
• Research, development, and demonstration to advance recommended civil engineering practices and standards to effectively address climate change impacts.
• Informing practicing engineers, project stakeholders, policy makers, and decision makers about the uncertainty in predicting future climate and the reasons for the uncertainty.
• Identifying critical infrastructure that is most threatened by changing climate in a given region, informing decision makers and the public, and enhancing infrastructure resiliency.
• Informing policy makers that infrastructure investment decisions in historically disadvantaged communities should not be based solely on economic benefit to cost ratio but should also consider the impacts of climate change and social and economic equity.

Issue​

The Earth’s climate, both global and regional, is changing and will continue to change. Climate scientists project that there will be substantial increases in relative temperature, with related increases in atmospheric water vapor and extreme precipitation amounts and intensities in most geographic regions because of climate change. Climate change modeling capabilities continue to improve and represent evolving science and technology.

There is an immediate need for engineers to incorporate resilience to future climate changes into project design criteria. Unfortunately, current practices and rules governing such design criteria do not adequately address concerns associated with climate change. Current engineering design standards, codes, regulations, and associated laws that govern infrastructure are not structured to allow design adaptation to address climate change.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Silly ass, an engineer. And more from real engineers, American Society of Mechanical Engineers;

The Solution​

Engineers have both an opportunity and the responsibility to support and lead in global action mitigating climate change. They possess the tools and training critical to generating, implementing, and advancing climate mitigation, adaptation, and resilience technologies and strategies.

ASME actively prepares the engineering world to play its part in addressing these urgent challenges. Occupying a unique position as a global standards developer, educator, and influencer across sectors, industries, and borders, ASME facilitates the enabling environment for consensus-building around technical, science-based climate solutions.

Climate Change - ASME

Learn about ASME's efforts to address climate change through engineering innovation, collaboration, & education. Join us in creating a more sustainable future.

www.asme.org

I know what ASME is. It's more political than anything. It's a society.....a group of stupid wannabe smart people.

This is so fun to watch.

 

[markef]

Coal plants are inefficient and expensive.

Moron.

Coal is far more efficient and inexpensive than government subsidized energy alternatives.

Do​

Windmills do not necessarily produce the same level of electricity production at much lower prices. While wind energy has seen significant growth and low prices, it is essential to consider the various factors that influence the cost and efficiency of wind energy production.

• Cost of Wind Energy: Wind energy prices, particularly in the central United States, have been low due to federal tax incentives and low levelized costs of energy (LCOE). However, these prices are not indicative of the same level of electricity production at much lower prices.
  
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• Efficiency of Wind Turbines: Wind turbines can reach efficiency levels of 50% or more during peak wind conditions, but lower wind speeds can reduce performance to around 20%. This means that while wind energy can be a cost-effective option, it may not always produce the same level of electricity production as other energy sources.
  
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• Performance Metrics: Wind farms have improved over time, with larger turbines and longer blades contributing to increased capacity factors. However, these improvements do not guarantee that wind energy will always produce the same level of electricity production at much lower prices.
  
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  In conclusion, while wind energy can be a cost-effective option, it is not guaranteed to produce the same level of electricity production at much lower prices. The effectiveness of wind farms in meeting energy needs and producing electricity at competitive prices is influenced by various factors, including technology, site selection, operational practices, and community acceptance.
  
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[Old Rocks]

Windmills are turning out to be far more problematic that anticipated. The windmill fad may be tapering off.

Are​

The global wind energy sector has faced challenges in meeting expectations for new installations in 2024. Despite a record-breaking year, new wind turbine installations fell short of expectations, reaching 121’305 Megawatt, slightly less than in 2023. Many major markets installed less than in the previous year, with only five of the top twenty countries having growth rates well above the global average. The world saw a dramatic drop in new installed capacity outside of China, with a total of 42’095 Megawatt in 2023 falling to just 34’413 MW in 2024, a drop by 18%. This decline in new installations is a significant concern for the sector's future growth and sustainability.

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Well yes, solar has now surpassed wind as the least costly form of electrical generation. Plus the best wind sites have either been taken already, are being fought politically, or require major new transmission lines. So now solar is the new renewable leader. However, wind is still being installed at a rate that I would really enjoy seeing on my bank account.

 

[Old Rocks]

I know what ASME is. It's more political than anything. It's a society.....a group of stupid wannabe smart people.

This is so fun to watch.

Ah well, so you are another MAGAt liar.

 

[markef]

American Society of Civil Engineers, would you like me to continue with Engineering Societies that are on board with the dangers of climate change? See, you posted dumb shit with nary a link backing your silly shit. And have shown what a fool you are.

Approved by the Energy, Environment, and Water Policy Committee on December 20, 2023
Approved by the Public Policy and Practice Committee on May 1, 2024
Adopted by the Board of Direction on July 18, 2024

Policy​

The American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) supports:

• Government policies that anticipate and prepare for impacts of climate change on the built environment.
• Revising engineering design standards, codes, regulations, and associated laws to strengthen the sustainability and resiliency of infrastructure at of being affected by climate change.
• Cooperative research among engineers and climate, weather, and life scientists to gain a better understanding of the magnitudes and consequences of future climate extremes and improve projection certainty.
• Research, development, and demonstration to advance recommended civil engineering practices and standards to effectively address climate change impacts.
• Informing practicing engineers, project stakeholders, policy makers, and decision makers about the uncertainty in predicting future climate and the reasons for the uncertainty.
• Identifying critical infrastructure that is most threatened by changing climate in a given region, informing decision makers and the public, and enhancing infrastructure resiliency.
• Informing policy makers that infrastructure investment decisions in historically disadvantaged communities should not be based solely on economic benefit to cost ratio but should also consider the impacts of climate change and social and economic equity.

Issue​

The Earth’s climate, both global and regional, is changing and will continue to change. Climate scientists project that there will be substantial increases in relative temperature, with related increases in atmospheric water vapor and extreme precipitation amounts and intensities in most geographic regions because of climate change. Climate change modeling capabilities continue to improve and represent evolving science and technology.

There is an immediate need for engineers to incorporate resilience to future climate changes into project design criteria. Unfortunately, current practices and rules governing such design criteria do not adequately address concerns associated with climate change. Current engineering design standards, codes, regulations, and associated laws that govern infrastructure are not structured to allow design adaptation to address climate change.

The other side also has experts, data, evidence, and facts.

Top 10 Scientists Who Disagree with Climate Change

Discover the top 10 scientists who disagree with climate change, exploring their perspectives, research, and arguments against mainstream climate views.

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Top 10 Scientists Who Challenge Climate Change Consensus​

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