The government is not an insurance company ...

[berg80]

... and we need to stop pretending it should function as one.

For years socialists like Paul Krugman have been trying to sell the notion that government is "an insurance company with an army". He proclaims this as though it's a good thing

An Insurance Company With An Army​

I gather, from what I’ve been reading and hearing in various places, that the right-wing line is that it’s all Solyndra — that your tax dollars are going to pay for vast numbers of wasteful projects.

Now, even the Solyndra story is a lot more nuanced than that. But this seems like a good time to repeat, once again, the truth about federal spending: Your federal government is basically an insurance company with an army. The vast bulk of its spending goes to the big five: Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, defense, and interest on the debt.

An Insurance Company With An Army

What your government does.

archive.nytimes.com

You might want to give some thought to what kind of country this would be without Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Or perhaps you like the idea of poverty stricken, elderly, sick and handicapped Americans begging for food on the streets. Or silently suffering behind closed doors.

 

[Etymology gaslight]

No one would pay any attention. They're worried about more important things, like tranny battoom etiquette.

Ok. But government isn't a business. It's purpose is entirely different.

They conduct "government business"
Congress, are the captains of the spending team.

However it's true, any business run like our government would be extinct.

That's different.

 

[dblack]

You might want to give some thought to what kind of country this would be without Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

I have. It would be significantly different. But we don't need guns to care for our community.

Or perhaps you like the idea of poverty stricken, elderly, sick and handicapped Americans begging for food on the streets. Or silently suffering behind closed doors.

Horseshit. The usual statist claim - without government telling us how to live properly, we'd all just wallow in our own filth and expire.

 

[ReinyDays]

And I am sitting on a pile of money, dipshit.

Who did you ass-rape then? ... and why is ass-raping so important to you? ...

 

[berg80]

I have. It would be significantly different. But we don't need guns to care for our community.

Horseshit. The usual statist claim - without government telling us how to live properly, we'd all just wallow in our own filth and expire.

How to live properly? More like keeping people from living in poverty. Which is how SS came to be.

"But we don't need guns to care for our community." What the hell does that mean?

 

[dblack]

"But we don't need guns to care for our community." What the hell does that mean?

It means we can solve social problems without passing laws. Laws are, in general, a pretty shitty way to solve social problems. Government is a shitty way to solve social problems.

 

[leftwinger]

... and we need to stop pretending it should function as one.

For years socialists like Paul Krugman have been trying to sell the notion that government is "an insurance company with an army". He proclaims this as though it's a good thing. It's not.

When starting a new thread and declaring something as fact in your opening post, you must link to a source.

 

[berg80]

It means we can solve social problems without passing laws. Laws are, in general, a pretty shitty way to solve social problems. Government is a shitty way to solve social problems.

Okay, well, I didn't realize I was conversing with a nihilist. There's no point in continuing.

 

[leftwinger]

Believe me, I'm familiar with the landscape. The two party system has created an electorate convinced that we must choose one of two shitty alternatives. Like frightened lemmings they glom on to whichever side seems "lesser". Kinda pathetic.

But President Trump is NOT of the "2 parties" of which you crowd daily. He is for regular American common sense policy.

If you withhold support, you support the criminal deep state taking over forever and implementing exactly whay you appear to oppose.

Like the 9 year old who tears up his room in anger, someday realizing he has to live in it.//

 

[leftwinger]

I’m all in on discussing the premise of your thread, I think it’s a good one…I made the point that it only makes sense for you to hold such a position if you are prepared to condemn the importation of tens of millions of taxpayer funded thirdworlders and support the aggressive deportation of tens of millions blood-sucking parasites…you can’t seem to be able to do that, you have conflicting positions. Your globalist feelings are getting in the way of basic logic and that makes you a bit of a hypocrite with no credibility on matters such as these.

Please note: “Brown man is gonna getcha” is not a logical refutation to the post.

That's the Cheese gang favorite go to. Alinsky 101. Using ridicule on your "targets". Play the "both sides" game. Macs rules for the useless Anarchist.

 

[gold something]

Liberals demand they can live on top of water. Insurance companies won't insure them, and libs take exception. That's why they started the National Flood Insurance Program. They want you to pay for their poor, uneducated decisions.

 

[leftwinger]

By the way, insurance premiums were skyrocketing for DECADES before ObamaCare, which is precisely why we have Obamacare.

The Republican plan to solve the decades-long crisis was exactly NOTHING.

The Democrats have made it plain for a very long time their ultimate goal is single-payer healthcare, a.k.a "socialized medicine" as it was called when Teddy Kennedy began promoting the idea in 1971.

So you see, when our politicians do NOTHING to solve a problem, it is just a matter of time before they vote for ANYTHING someone puts on the table, even if it is a bad plan like Obamacare.

The Republicans are too cowardly and too stupid to put a plan on the table, which is why they do NOTHING but complain and whine about the ACA and lie and lie and lie about having a replacement.

They and Trump got caught with their dicks in their hands after they won all the power in 2016.

So here we are, with prices still skyrocketing, going on what, six decades now?



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Oh please. ObammyCare was nothing but appeasement to the lowIQ sap in office to drain more GOVT funds. Creating another health care carve out for a few million special interest citizens accomplished what exactly? More useless confusing unnecessary Big GOVT program.

 

[dblack]

Okay, well, I didn't realize I was conversing with a nihilist. There's no point in continuing.

Lol ... yes, yes. Nihilist. That's an easy out.

 

[leftwinger]

ThisIsMe

It's what I've been saying since coming to this forum.

And some idiot dipshits assume I'm a Democrat who loves him some Obamacare.

Go figure.

You know what else makes things more expensive? Tax expenditures.

For example, the mortage interest rates make houses up to 27 percent more expensive.

Guess who likes houses being more expensive and spend over $100 million a year bribing Congress to preserve the MID.

Bankers, mortgage brokers, and realtors.

But watch so-called "conservatives" scream like the welfare queens they are to protect the MID.

The MID is direct government interference in the free market.

Everybody's a socialist. It's just some don't know it.



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STD deduction at $30K married joint swamps out typical home mortgage interest payments. Back in 2000s' even a typical CA (nations most costly) loan interest would have been swaped out by the $30K.

$300K loan today? Guess I have to look it up? Too lazy. You do uit, ok Saul?

 

[leftwinger]

All advanced democracies combine capitalistic and socialistic aspects, the proper balance of which is determined by the electorate.

Neither extreme has proved viable.

$2T govt over-spending every budget by Obiden is not really true GDP growth. Especially using 10-25% of that to enrich and pay their party members in Billions. You dumb OX.

 

[leftwinger]

I have zero social media accounts. Nor do I have cable, so I don't watch any of the 24 hour proganda channels, right or left.

The only time I see social media or the propaganda channels is when someone posts something here.

Social media and the propaganda channels have dumbed everyone down to the intellectual bandwidth of a bumper sticker.

Trump is the same. He's stupid and incapable of coherence, which makes him the perfect fool for this media environment.


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Anyway. Did you read my post? Still think I'm a Democrat and/or liberal?


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I'm one of the most conservative people on this forum. Trump has succeeded in leading his MAGA herd far, far off the reservation to the point they have no clue what conservatism is.

MAGAs are cool with adultery.

MAGAs are cool with fraud.

MAGAs are especially cool with pathological lying and bearing false witness.

MAGAs are cool with leftist protectionism, just like Biden and Pelosi and Schumer!

MAGAs are cool with a pro-abortionist, radical climate change activist who wants to legalize all drugs.

MAGAs are cool with a socialist being placed in charge of our national security who has backed Assad and Putin.

MAGAs are totally cool with mass-murdering war criminal Stalinist KGB Putin. The Trump cult parrots ALL of Putin's propaganda talking points. It's amazing.

MAGAs all sat with their thumbs up their asses and were completely mute as Trump ran up $8 trillion of debt in his first term. Trump doubled the deficit and submitted the largest budget in American history BEFORE Covid.

And there they sat. Mute and willfully blind.

MAGAs are cool with alienating our allies.

MAGAs believe you can stab, electrocute, chemically spray, batter and wound scores upon scores of police in one go, but don't you dare throw a sandwich at one!

MAGA is cool with dismantling the FBI. If a terror attack occurs, they will find a way to blame anyone but Trump. Count on it.

MAGAs are cool with an attempted coup.

MAGAs are cool with Trump not only ******* a porn star, they are cool with another porn star endorsing him at the Republican National Convention on coast-to-coast television in prime time!

MAGAs believe the word of one of the worst pedophiles in history should be taken as gospel truth.

MAGAs are cool with one of the worst pedophiles in history then being placed in one of the most lax and least secure prisons with the likes of Elizabeth Holmes.

MAGAs are completely unconcerned about the Epstein client list disappearing from our nation's top law enforcement officer's desk.

MAGAs are cool with Trump's socialist interference in several companies' business, believing that since Obama did it that Two Socialists Make A Right.


There is no conservative movement in America any more. Not for a long time. Bill Buckley and Milton Friedman are literally and figuratively dead.

What we have are the Socialist and More Socialist parties now, and it is getting more and more difficult to tell which is which.

Deep State Dem & R criminals are not Trump you dumb OX. He is US, regular common sense Americans. Without support in DC, media or your weird world, he is forced to somewhat "go along" to get to the winners circle. At least HE is willing to try and fight the lobiasys.

 

[dblack]

But President Trump is NOT of the "2 parties" of which you crowd daily. He is for regular American common sense policy.

If you withhold support, you support the criminal deep state taking over forever and implementing exactly whay you appear to oppose.

Like the 9 year old who tears up his room in anger, someday realizing he has to live in it.//

You've got to be kidding me. Nothing is more destructive to this country than the two-party pissing match. Most people who voted for him know that Trump is a piece of shit. They only voted for him because they think Democrats are worse.

 

[Oddball]

It is if you are wealthy or connected.

S&L bailouts
Bank bailouts
GM bailout
Chrsyler bailout
Hedge fund bailouts right now for Argentina

Yet you'll be the first in line to pimp for the socialistic welfare state for individuals.

You're in for a penny, in for a pound.

 

[Oddball]

... and we need to stop pretending it should function as one.

For years socialists like Paul Krugman have been trying to sell the notion that government is "an insurance company with an army". He proclaims this as though it's a good thing. It's not.

Krugman is the funniest thing in the newspapers since Berkeley Brethed quit writing Bloom County cartoons.

 

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