The GOP has a stable of potential winners, the Dems have one old mare

[Redfish]

You keep asking for bets so here is my offer to you. $5000 that a republican wins in 2016. After that we can talk about the next 4 elections because the betting odds on that woul depend on who they pick for VP next year.

I think a Kasich/Rubio ticket would lock it in for 16 years. but thats just my opinion.

I'll take that bet in a heartbeat.

But I know that you don't really want to bet .. which is why you made it $5000. :0)

Great, send me a PM and I will send you my address. mail me a check for 5K and if you win I will send it back with one of mine for 5K.

You must be joking.

How about you send your money to the admins here and I'll do the same. They will pay whomever wins.

Not a chance, do you trust the mods? Besides I need your money to buy lottery tickets and beer

I trust the mods a lot more than I trust you .. needing money for lottery tickets and beer. :0)

Ah be's jokin wit ya, bro. don get ya panties ina wad now.

 

[JoshuaZ]

I'll take that bet in a heartbeat.

But I know that you don't really want to bet .. which is why you made it $5000. :0)

Great, send me a PM and I will send you my address. mail me a check for 5K and if you win I will send it back with one of mine for 5K.

You must be joking.

How about you send your money to the admins here and I'll do the same. They will pay whomever wins.

Not a chance, do you trust the mods? Besides I need your money to buy lottery tickets and beer

If you do need someone to trust to hold the money, although I'm not willing to make such a bet myself, I can hold it for you. If you want I can PM both of you my real life identity, the identity of which should I think make myself fairly trustworthy and make clear that if I didn't do what I'm supposed to that it would go very badly for me if either of you made a stink.

yeah, right, send money to an unknown person on the internet. BTW, my contact in Nigeria just told that Sir Henry Houghton left you 60 million dollars and all he needs is your bank account info to transfer it to you.

*shrug*. As I said, my identity and career would make clear that I'm not in position to mess with that sort of thing. But if you both really do want to do this another option is to use escrow.com They have a very convenient system that allows you set up an escrow through Paypal.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

I do agree that the Democrats currently have a very small bench, but that sort of thing can change rapidly. I'm curious, if someone offered to make you a straight $200 bet that at least one of the next four elected Presidents will be a Democrat, would you take it?

You keep asking for bets so here is my offer to you. $5000 that a republican wins in 2016. After that we can talk about the next 4 elections because the betting odds on that woul depend on who they pick for VP next year.

I think a Kasich/Rubio ticket would lock it in for 16 years. but thats just my opinion.

I'll take that bet in a heartbeat.

But I know that you don't really want to bet .. which is why you made it $5000. :0)

Ok, I don't want you to miss a car payment, so make it easy on yourself $5.00.

I'm betting I've made a lot more money than you have. .. as in, a LOT more. :0)

we can compare portfolios if you want, but I assure you that mine exceeds yours by a very significant amount. in 2008 when everyone was selling, I bought, and it has paid off big time.

You'll have to pardon me, but you don't exhibit the intelligence to be much of anything.

Try this .. The Republican Party has been reduced to a regional party and it doesn't have enough white people to win a national election for the WH.

Your turn to demonstrate that it isn't a regional party and republicans could easily beat Clinton as you suggested.

It's a simple test that I highly doubt you can pass. :0)

 

[BlackAsCoal]

I'll take that bet in a heartbeat.

But I know that you don't really want to bet .. which is why you made it $5000. :0)

Great, send me a PM and I will send you my address. mail me a check for 5K and if you win I will send it back with one of mine for 5K.

You must be joking.

How about you send your money to the admins here and I'll do the same. They will pay whomever wins.

Not a chance, do you trust the mods? Besides I need your money to buy lottery tickets and beer

I trust the mods a lot more than I trust you .. needing money for lottery tickets and beer. :0)

Ah be's jokin wit ya, bro. don get ya panties ina wad now.

Well Dag nabit, y'all should have just said so.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

:0) How stupid. Are you out of high school yet?

It's the republicans running scared .. which is why you and the Gopers spend so much time whining about Hillary.

Wrong, the stupidity is yours. There are so many GOP candidates because they all see it as an easy win over HRC. The DNC and its suck buddies the unions are the ones who are running scared.

The Clintons have as many enemies in the dem power elite as they do in the GOP. They have shit on just about everyone in their drive for power.

:0) Either you're still in high school or you are a complete novice to politics. :0)

Neither of your bad choices will get anywhere near the nomination. :0)

again, put your money where your mouth is or STFU.

You STFU dummy. :0)

Aww, did I hurt your feelings, Bro? Tough shit, grow up and deal with the real world.

:0) You're a joke .. but feel free to convince yourself that you matter and could 'hurt my feelings.'

What are you .. 12 years old?

I guess that test is too much for a Goober like you. :0)

 

[Redfish]

You keep asking for bets so here is my offer to you. $5000 that a republican wins in 2016. After that we can talk about the next 4 elections because the betting odds on that woul depend on who they pick for VP next year.

I think a Kasich/Rubio ticket would lock it in for 16 years. but thats just my opinion.

I'll take that bet in a heartbeat.

But I know that you don't really want to bet .. which is why you made it $5000. :0)

Ok, I don't want you to miss a car payment, so make it easy on yourself $5.00.

I'm betting I've made a lot more money than you have. .. as in, a LOT more. :0)

we can compare portfolios if you want, but I assure you that mine exceeds yours by a very significant amount. in 2008 when everyone was selling, I bought, and it has paid off big time.

You'll have to pardon me, but you don't exhibit the intelligence to be much of anything.

Try this .. The Republican Party has been reduced to a regional party and it doesn't have enough white people to win a national election for the WH.

Your turn to demonstrate that it isn't a regional party and republicans could easily beat Clinton as you suggested.

It's a simple test that I highly doubt you can pass. :0)

the error in your thinking will be quite evident in november 2016. were the republicans who took the house and senate in 2014 all from the south and were they all old and white? Are all of the republican governors from one region? NOPE, not even close.

Ever hear of Mia Love, bro, or maybe you are a broette.

 

[Redfish]

Great, send me a PM and I will send you my address. mail me a check for 5K and if you win I will send it back with one of mine for 5K.

You must be joking.

How about you send your money to the admins here and I'll do the same. They will pay whomever wins.

Not a chance, do you trust the mods? Besides I need your money to buy lottery tickets and beer

I trust the mods a lot more than I trust you .. needing money for lottery tickets and beer. :0)

Ah be's jokin wit ya, bro. don get ya panties ina wad now.

Well Dag nabit, y'all should have just said so.

its just me, y'all refers to more than one person, its a contraction of "you all"

 

[BlackAsCoal]

I'll take that bet in a heartbeat.

But I know that you don't really want to bet .. which is why you made it $5000. :0)

Ok, I don't want you to miss a car payment, so make it easy on yourself $5.00.

I'm betting I've made a lot more money than you have. .. as in, a LOT more. :0)

we can compare portfolios if you want, but I assure you that mine exceeds yours by a very significant amount. in 2008 when everyone was selling, I bought, and it has paid off big time.

You'll have to pardon me, but you don't exhibit the intelligence to be much of anything.

Try this .. The Republican Party has been reduced to a regional party and it doesn't have enough white people to win a national election for the WH.

Your turn to demonstrate that it isn't a regional party and republicans could easily beat Clinton as you suggested.

It's a simple test that I highly doubt you can pass. :0)

the error in your thinking will be quite evident in november 2016. were the republicans who took the house and senate in 2014 all from the south and were they all old and white? Are all of the republican governors from one region? NOPE, not even close.

Ever hear of Mia Love, bro, or maybe you are a broette.

Yes, I've heard of Mia Love .. meaningless except as a republican front for 'openness.'

Did you know that democrats elected more African-Americans to Congress in 1970 than republican have elected collectively since 1970? Of course you didn't.

Tell me again about Mia Love. :0)

 

[kwc57]

diversity in the gop? that's like looking for a particular marsh mellow in a marsh mellow factory!

Let's look at that.

Rubio - Hispanic
Cruz - Hispanic
Carson - Black
Jindal - Indian
Fiorina - Female

Sanders - old white guy
O'Malley - old white guy
Hillary - old white guy

Tell us again which party is a bag of stale marshmallows?

I forgot to add:

Graham - gay

 

[BlackAsCoal]

You must be joking.

How about you send your money to the admins here and I'll do the same. They will pay whomever wins.

Not a chance, do you trust the mods? Besides I need your money to buy lottery tickets and beer

I trust the mods a lot more than I trust you .. needing money for lottery tickets and beer. :0)

Ah be's jokin wit ya, bro. don get ya panties ina wad now.

Well Dag nabit, y'all should have just said so.

its just me, y'all refers to more than one person, its a contraction of "you all"

I meant all y'all idiots on the right.

Yes, I'm betting that I'm also more educated than you are .. and it shows. :0)

 

[Flash]

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:0) How stupid. Are you out of high school yet?

It's the republicans running scared .. which is why you and the Gopers spend so much time whining about Hillary.

I oppose The Hildabeast because she is an incompetent corrupt piece of shit.

I demean those Libtard idiots that would vote for her to be President because she is not the right person to be leading this country. Not by a long shot.

 

[Redfish]

Ok, I don't want you to miss a car payment, so make it easy on yourself $5.00.

I'm betting I've made a lot more money than you have. .. as in, a LOT more. :0)

we can compare portfolios if you want, but I assure you that mine exceeds yours by a very significant amount. in 2008 when everyone was selling, I bought, and it has paid off big time.

You'll have to pardon me, but you don't exhibit the intelligence to be much of anything.

Try this .. The Republican Party has been reduced to a regional party and it doesn't have enough white people to win a national election for the WH.

Your turn to demonstrate that it isn't a regional party and republicans could easily beat Clinton as you suggested.

It's a simple test that I highly doubt you can pass. :0)

the error in your thinking will be quite evident in november 2016. were the republicans who took the house and senate in 2014 all from the south and were they all old and white? Are all of the republican governors from one region? NOPE, not even close.

Ever hear of Mia Love, bro, or maybe you are a broette.

Yes, I've heard of Mia Love .. meaningless except as a republican front for 'openness.'

Did you know that democrats elected more African-Americans to Congress in 1970 than republican have elected collectively since 1970? Of course you didn't.

Tell me again about Mia Love. :0)

Mia Love - conservative, female, and black from a predominately white state. nothing more needs to be said.

Now, would you like to talk about Sheila Jackson Lee and Cynthis McKinney? AKA idiots on parade.

 

[sealybobo]

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I vote democratic cause the GOP only help the rich. They went ten years cutting taxes for the rich now they say they have to raise ours. See rick Snyder road solution. Shift the tax on us you dumb shit.

With family income declining, poverty rates increasing, negative economic growth, more people on the government dole than working and your children $18 trillion in debt your Boy Obama hasn't exactly helped you, has he? If you think he has then you are very confused.

Obama sure helped the rich because he bailed out Wall Street and corporations and anybody else that contributed to his campaign. If you were a Solyndra executive that did some campaign bundling for Obama you really made out well, didn't you?

You need to stop being greedy and envious and less concerned with what other people make and be more concerned with electing somebody that will grow the economy so that everybody does better.

The "rich" already pays the lion's share of the trillion a year collected in income tax. When is enough going to be enough for you greedy people? You want it it to be two trillion? Five trillion? You need more Obamaphones or something? What is the matter with you?

We already spend over 40% of the GNP for the combined cost of government and our economy sucks. Just look at the U-6 employment rate and the growth last quarter. Left economics is always destructive.

You don't grow the economy by taking money away people that earn it and giving to those shitheads that didn't earn it. That may satisfy your greed but it bad economics. It takes capital investments out of the economy and that is bad for economic growth.

Democrats are a coalition of all the greedy despicable elements of America. Blacks that vote their race and welfare checks , union pukes, environmental wackos, anti gun nuts, Feminazis, confused college kids and their wacko commie professors, queers, illegals, welfare queens and socialists. They are a collection of the scum of America and their greed is what drives their voting record.

I stopped reading at solyndera. Stupid idiot.

 

[sealybobo]

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:0) How stupid. Are you out of high school yet?

It's the republicans running scared .. which is why you and the Gopers spend so much time whining about Hillary.

I oppose The Hildabeast because she is an incompetent corrupt piece of shit.

I demean those Libtard idiots that would vote for her to be President because she is not the right person to be leading this country. Not by a long shot.

But lead she will for 8 years.

 

[sealybobo]

The stable of 'potential' winners. :0)

Other than Carly, is there one that HASN'T won?
Senate seat, governors chair, etc?

You make my point. The Republican Party has been reduced to a regional party. Ben Carson hasn't won anywhere either .. but where have the others won .. where have almost all republican president wannabe 'winners' come from? Answer: the same regions .. basically the south .. AND, here is the further rub on that. The south is rapidly changing demographics and many southern states .. strongholds of republicanism .. will soon become minority-majority states .. and minorities don't think like republicans, nor will they ever.

and they are STILL potential winners, and most have won at some time in the past.

at least as much as Hillary has ever won, some definitely more.

Yep, they are all potential winners.

Constituent: I wouldn't vote for you if you were the last person in the world.
Candidate X: So you're saying I have a chance?

a majority of americans do not think HRC is trustworthy. She is candidate X in your silly what-if.

Commander and chief. Lotus. Mrs. President if your nasty.

If Obama sent ted Nugent and trump over the edge hillary will make them implode.

I love the idea of Billary back in the white house. Who will be her VP?

 

[rightwinger]

Ok, I don't want you to miss a car payment, so make it easy on yourself $5.00.

I'm betting I've made a lot more money than you have. .. as in, a LOT more. :0)

we can compare portfolios if you want, but I assure you that mine exceeds yours by a very significant amount. in 2008 when everyone was selling, I bought, and it has paid off big time.

You'll have to pardon me, but you don't exhibit the intelligence to be much of anything.

Try this .. The Republican Party has been reduced to a regional party and it doesn't have enough white people to win a national election for the WH.

Your turn to demonstrate that it isn't a regional party and republicans could easily beat Clinton as you suggested.

It's a simple test that I highly doubt you can pass. :0)

the error in your thinking will be quite evident in november 2016. were the republicans who took the house and senate in 2014 all from the south and were they all old and white? Are all of the republican governors from one region? NOPE, not even close.

Ever hear of Mia Love, bro, or maybe you are a broette.

Yes, I've heard of Mia Love .. meaningless except as a republican front for 'openness.'

Did you know that democrats elected more African-Americans to Congress in 1970 than republican have elected collectively since 1970? Of course you didn't.

Tell me again about Mia Love. :0)

That is not hard to do
Republicans have only elected eight blacks to Congress in one hundred years

 

[sealybobo]

diversity in the gop? that's like looking for a particular marsh mellow in a marsh mellow factory!

Let's look at that.

Rubio - Hispanic
Cruz - Hispanic
Carson - Black
Jindal - Indian
Fiorina - Female

Sanders - old white guy
O'Malley - old white guy
Hillary - old white guy

Tell us again which party is a bag of stale marshmallows?

GOP are bag of dicks. Just like bush. Want another recession? Vote GOP.

Bill Clinton accepts responsibility for the recession.

Alan Greenspan, the Federal Reserve chairman, opposed regulation of derivatives as they came to the fore in the 1990s, and Clinton agreed. "They argued that nobody's going to buy these derivatives, we'll do it without transparency, they'll get the information they need," he recalled. "And it turned out to be just wrong; it just wasn't true." He said others share blame, including credit-rating agencies that underestimated the risk. But he accepts responsibility as well. "I very much wish now that I had demanded that we put derivatives under the jurisdiction of the Securities and Exchange Commission and that transparency rules had been observed and that we had done that. That I think is a legitimate criticism of what we didn't do." He added: "If you ask me to write the indictment, I'd say: 'I wish Bill Clinton had said more about derivatives. The Republicans probably would have stopped him from doing it, but at least he should have sounded the alarm bell.' "

Clinton concludes by asserting that he never would have let the housing bubble grow as big as it did (Baker: "never mind the high-technology bubble that burst on his watch") and would have stepped in to prevent the market free-fall that ensued. Even with these self-justifying caveats, though, Clinton has gone much, much further than Robert Rubin in accepting responsibility for helping to create the United States' worst economic calamity since the Great Depression. Remind me: Which one is the politician?

I dont love it that billary are corporate democrats. Bill signed NAFTA and deregulated the media and went along with the newt GOP way too much. Triangulators. But I'll take any democrat over any GOP candidate. I'm too smart and not greedy enough to vote GOP.

 

[sealybobo]

I'm betting I've made a lot more money than you have. .. as in, a LOT more. :0)

we can compare portfolios if you want, but I assure you that mine exceeds yours by a very significant amount. in 2008 when everyone was selling, I bought, and it has paid off big time.

You'll have to pardon me, but you don't exhibit the intelligence to be much of anything.

Try this .. The Republican Party has been reduced to a regional party and it doesn't have enough white people to win a national election for the WH.

Your turn to demonstrate that it isn't a regional party and republicans could easily beat Clinton as you suggested.

It's a simple test that I highly doubt you can pass. :0)

the error in your thinking will be quite evident in november 2016. were the republicans who took the house and senate in 2014 all from the south and were they all old and white? Are all of the republican governors from one region? NOPE, not even close.

Ever hear of Mia Love, bro, or maybe you are a broette.

Yes, I've heard of Mia Love .. meaningless except as a republican front for 'openness.'

Did you know that democrats elected more African-Americans to Congress in 1970 than republican have elected collectively since 1970? Of course you didn't.

Tell me again about Mia Love. :0)

That is not hard to do
Republicans have only elected eight blacks to Congress in one hundred years

Yea! Easy to run a black white Mexican Jew and woman when only ones gonna get the nominee.

Or will it ultimately be jeb a white guy. Like Romney McCain before. And I'm sorry but rubio may as well be a white dude. And the black and woman stand no chance.

 

[sealybobo]

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Sure. But I hope you won't begrudge me an attempt to improve the signal to noise ratio by helping determine what people actually believe and when they are just cheerleading/BSing.

I presented a case that the Moon Bats are in trouble. If you disagree or don't accept my points then fine. Clinton and the Democrats have a lot of baggage to overcome.

Why should others listen to your claims when you clearly don't believe them yourself?

I believe that Clinton is corrupt and incompetent and she is going to have a hellva of a time convincing a majority of Americans that she can be a good president.

I believe that Obama's dismal economic and foreign policy record is going to be a big burden for anybody running as a Democrat.

I believe that the cost increase due to Obamacare that is coming down the pike is going to piss off a lot of Americans before the election next year.

Could any of us be wrong in our prediction?. Of course. None of us have a crystal ball.

Are my observations valid for the political climate today? Absolutely!

Do the Moon Bats want to believe that they can win? Yea, but it is not based upon anything other than their convoluted idea that Moon Bat policies are good for this country and anybody that doesn't understand that is obviously an idiot.

Of course anyone can be wrong with their predictions. That's why good predictions should have probabilities associated to them. In your particular case, your predictions correspond to a low probability of Hillary winning the election and a Dem winning the election more generally. Apparently though you aren't actually willing to back those up at all, which strongly suggests you don't really believe it.

One thing they are going off is "historically" the encumbent candidate after 8 years of their predisessor typically doesnt win. Its time for change.

You see the people didn't punish the GOP of 8 years of obstruction. In fact they rewarded their bad behavior by not showing up to the midterms. Apparently americans dont think midterms matter.

 

[sealybobo]

I agree with that brother.

your assumption that all minorities will vote dem is based on ignorance, not reality. The minorities that you so covet are mostly fed up with being lied to by dems and treated like slaves.

But you are free to believe whatever bullshit makes you feel good. The truth is the obama, clinton, reid, and pelosi have destroyed the party of Kennedy and Truman for the next 20 or 30 years.

You libs had your chance and you blew it on the black guy.

Are you asserting that say at least the next four Presidential elections will all no go for the Democrats? I ask because that's 16 years by itself, and already well below 20-30 years?

I think there is a good possibility that no dem will be president in the next 4 elections, yes thats what I am saying.

Who do you have in the wings waiting for HRC to keel over? No one. All you have is old tired white people, and you claim to be the party of diversity, thats bullshit,.

I do agree that the Democrats currently have a very small bench, but that sort of thing can change rapidly. I'm curious, if someone offered to make you a straight $200 bet that at least one of the next four elected Presidents will be a Democrat, would you take it?

You keep asking for bets so here is my offer to you. $5000 that a republican wins in 2016. After that we can talk about the next 4 elections because the betting odds on that woul depend on who they pick for VP next year.

I think a Kasich/Rubio ticket would lock it in for 16 years. but thats just my opinion.

Bet! I'll remember this redfish.