The Fukashima earthquake

[whitehall]

Why aren't climate "scientists" talking about the earthquake of 2011 that moved the entire country of Japan 8 feet and shifted the earth on its axis? No money in it? The theory that the earth might be rotating faster and on a different axis surely has a bearing on the weather just as the theory of man-made global warming but you can't extort money and use an earthquake as a political tool.

 

[mamooth]

Why aren't climate "scientists" talking about the earthquake of 2011 that moved the entire country of Japan 8 feet and shifted the earth on its axis?

Because it's not related to climate in any way, so they'd look like morons if they talked about it.

No money in it? The theory that the earth might be rotating faster and on a different axis surely has a bearing on the weather

Nope. The changes were way freakin' small, so it has no effect on climate.

just as the theory of man-made global warming but you can't extort money and use an earthquake as a political tool.

Thanks for demonstrating my onoging point, which is how denialism has nothing to do with science, being that it's entirely about politics. That's why all deniers are right-wing extremists who can only rant about politics. If right-wing politics vanished, denialism would instantly vanish along with it. In stark contrast, the real science crosses all political boundaries all across the world, because it's real science. If left-wing politics vanished, the science wouldn't change a bit.

 

[whitehall]

"Way freakin small so it had no effect on climate". There's a scientific analysis for you.

 

[whitehall]

People probably identify the "Butterfly Effect" as a movie but it is a concept based on small events like a butterfly in Africa causing a slight air movement that escalates to a major weather event in the U.S. It's not hard to understand but what happens in a celestial event like the earth being nudged slightly off it's axis? Is the earth spinning slightly faster? How about the jet stream? Climate "scientists" don't want to discuss it because it interferes with their political man made global warming extortion scheme.

 

[mamooth]

"Way freakin small so it had no effect on climate". There's a scientific analysis for you.

Here's a thought exercise for you.

Move 8 inches north or south.

Did the climate change?

No?

Then the 8-inch figure-axis shift due to the earthquake will not affect climate.

 

[whitehall]

"Way freakin small so it had no effect on climate". There's a scientific analysis for you.

Here's a thought exercise for you.

Move 8 inches north or south.

Did the climate change?

No?

Then the 8-inch figure-axis shift due to the earthquake will not affect climate.

Here's a thought for you. Move 8 inches underground or under water and see if you die. The last time the earth moved on it's axis the Sahara was in a temperate climate.

 

[mamooth]

Here's a thought for you. Move 8 inches underground or under water and see if you die. The last time the earth moved on it's axis the Sahara was in a temperate climate.

That oscillation took 20,000 years, and it resulted in a couple hundred miles of axis movement. And it wasn't the only climate factor in play.

And you're comparing that to 8 inches of axial movement. Scale matters, so your theory makes zero sense.

 

[ReinyDays]

The last time the earth moved on it's axis the Sahara was in a temperate climate.

Boxing Day, 2004? ... why do you think the Sahara was temperate before that date? ...

In neither event did the Earth's axis move ... due to the conservation of angular momentum ... at best we have a slightly higher (0.001%) chance of cyclogenesis where cyclogenesis can occur ... the current climate allows for this, "change" is not needed ...

 

[whitehall]

I watched a episode of Brit fisherman Jeremy Wade's featuring a cloud of temperate water impacting the Alaskan coast in 2016 and causing a decline in halibut catches. The usual suspects included the cliche of man made global warming. Fukashima happened in 2011 and nobody talked about the hot millions of gallons of radioactive water that Fukashima is still pumping out every freaking day. The globe tilted on it's axis for the first time in recorded history and the land mass of Japan shifted 8 feet but the global warming tribe is still blaming American decadence for the weather..

 

[ReinyDays]

You should stop watching fishing shows if this stuff worries you ... the globe didn't tilt on it's axis ... whoever told you this lied ...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Scientists still can't explain what powers FRB, millisecond radio bursts that arrive on Earth from the depths of space and therefore must be generated by a source we've yet to even imagine.

Have they considered they come from a planet that doubled their atmospheric CO2? Earth will soon be a boiling hot, lifeless planet where snow is a thing of the past because CO2 increased from 280 to 400PPM. Perhaps some exoplanets increase their CO2 from 280 to 560PPM and there's the source of these signals so strong not even black holes can generate them.

Mann should reexamine his tree rings for FRBs and Shankun should reexamine his 80,000 year old clam farts as a proxy for temperature for these telltale FRBs.

 

[whitehall]

You should stop watching fishing shows if this stuff worries you ... the globe didn't tilt on it's axis ... whoever told you this lied ...

Stop watching "fishing shows? I thought we were arguing about a scientific fact that the Fukishima earthquake actually shifted the entire Japanese land mass about eight feet and caused the earth to shift on it's axis? Maybe you would rather talk about unfounded theories.

 

[ReinyDays]

Stop watching "fishing shows? I thought we were arguing about a scientific fact that the Fukishima earthquake actually shifted the entire Japanese land mass about eight feet and caused the earth to shift on it's axis? Maybe you would rather talk about unfounded theories.

This isn't an unfounded theory ... you're making this up as you go along ... if you had any kind of reliable citation, you'd have known it's called the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake ...

Japan moved 8 feet in relation to what? ... Seattle? ... drop a grain of sand into a small creek and see if anything changes to the water flow ... see, you spout nonsense ...

The Earth didn't shift on it's axis ... go out tonight and look for the North Star ... it's obviously still the North Star now isn't it ... whoever told you it's not is fooling you ... again ... stop listening to their lies okay? ... and for the love of God ... LOOK BEFORE YOU LEAP ...

 

[whitehall]

Wikipedia says Fukashima was the most powerful undersea earthquake in history and measured about a 9-0 and moved the main island of Japan about 8 ft. ...east. Two nuclear reactors melted down and the environmental disaster is ongoing.

 

[ReinyDays]

Wikipedia says Fukashima was the most powerful undersea earthquake in history and measured about a 9-0 and moved the main island of Japan about 8 ft. ...east. Two nuclear reactors melted down and the environmental disaster is ongoing.

You're reading wrong ... perhaps a link to the Wikipedia article that claims this is in order ...

I did check myself, and the 1960 Valdivia Earthquake in Chile was centered a few miles inland ... 9.5 MW ... the 1964 Good Friday Earthquake in Alaska was centered less than a quarter mile inland ... 9.2 MW ...

However, the 2004 Boxing Day Earthquake near Indonesia was centered a good 20 miles offshore ... 9.2 MW ... so the 2011 Tohoku Earthquake ... 9.0 MW ... is NOT the most most powerful undersea earthquake ... although it might be the most intense, which is a "feels like" measure but not one that measures energy release per unit time ...

Surprisingly, cesium-135 contamination isn't a meteorological parameter, and so has absolutely nothing to do with climate ... and the melt-downs are strictly a human disaster ... the environment is expected to prosper in short order, as demonstrated by the top predators thriving in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone right now ... wolves, owls and foxes are thick where the people had to abandon ... c.f. "Radioactive Wolves" documentary produced by Nature on PBS (so it has to be true) ...

When Cascadia ruptures again ... and it most certainly will ... we have the potential to measure the single most powerful earthquake in seismographic history ... 9.7 MW or better ... enough to ruin a sunny day in these parts ... that will be about 50 miles offshore ...

Please ... why do you think it's a "scientific fact" that the Earth shifted on her axis? ... how many of the great telescopes in the world built on equatorial mounts had to be torn down and rebuilt? ... go out and look, why in God's name do you think Polaris is no long the North Star? ... is it the same reason you think it never rains in Virginia during summer anymore? ... sheesh ... maybe once a month actually come out of your parents' basement and look around ...

 

[Likkmee]

Why aren't climate "scientists" talking about the earthquake of 2011 that moved the entire country of Japan 8 feet and shifted the earth on its axis?

Because it's not related to climate in any way, so they'd look like morons if they talked about it.

No money in it? The theory that the earth might be rotating faster and on a different axis surely has a bearing on the weather

Nope. The changes were way freakin' small, so it has no effect on climate.

just as the theory of man-made global warming but you can't extort money and use an earthquake as a political tool.

Thanks for demonstrating my onoging point, which is how denialism has nothing to do with science, being that it's entirely about politics. That's why all deniers are right-wing extremists who can only rant about politics. If right-wing politics vanished, denialism would instantly vanish along with it. In stark contrast, the real science crosses all political boundaries all across the world, because it's real science. If left-wing politics vanished, the science wouldn't change a bit.

Becuase it was simply an act of God to keep Guam from tipping over

 

[westwall]

Why aren't climate "scientists" talking about the earthquake of 2011 that moved the entire country of Japan 8 feet and shifted the earth on its axis?

Because it's not related to climate in any way, so they'd look like morons if they talked about it.

No money in it? The theory that the earth might be rotating faster and on a different axis surely has a bearing on the weather

Nope. The changes were way freakin' small, so it has no effect on climate.

just as the theory of man-made global warming but you can't extort money and use an earthquake as a political tool.

Thanks for demonstrating my onoging point, which is how denialism has nothing to do with science, being that it's entirely about politics. That's why all deniers are right-wing extremists who can only rant about politics. If right-wing politics vanished, denialism would instantly vanish along with it. In stark contrast, the real science crosses all political boundaries all across the world, because it's real science. If left-wing politics vanished, the science wouldn't change a bit.

Why aren't climate "scientists" talking about the earthquake of 2011 that moved the entire country of Japan 8 feet and shifted the earth on its axis?

Because it's not related to climate in any way, so they'd look like morons if they talked about it.

No money in it? The theory that the earth might be rotating faster and on a different axis surely has a bearing on the weather

Nope. The changes were way freakin' small, so it has no effect on climate.

just as the theory of man-made global warming but you can't extort money and use an earthquake as a political tool.

Thanks for demonstrating my onoging point, which is how denialism has nothing to do with science, being that it's entirely about politics. That's why all deniers are right-wing extremists who can only rant about politics. If right-wing politics vanished, denialism would instantly vanish along with it. In stark contrast, the real science crosses all political boundaries all across the world, because it's real science. If left-wing politics vanished, the science wouldn't change a bit.

But, but, but, it was just a few years ago that you clowns claimed globull warming would cause earthquakes!

Make up your mind, dumbass!

 

[ReinyDays]

But, but, but, it was just a few years ago that you clowns claimed globull warming would cause earthquakes!

That was Jim Wilcox on his "Bassing the Bayous" TV show ... he was being facetious ... it was picked up by the members of the Possum Lodge and that's how it got so much press ...

 

[whitehall]

Wikipedia says Fukashima was the most powerful undersea earthquake in history and measured about a 9-0 and moved the main island of Japan about 8 ft. ...east. Two nuclear reactors melted down and the environmental disaster is ongoing.

You're reading wrong ... perhaps a link to the Wikipedia article that claims this is in order ...

I did check myself, and the 1960 Valdivia Earthquake in Chile was centered a few miles inland ... 9.5 MW ... the 1964 Good Friday Earthquake in Alaska was centered less than a quarter mile inland ... 9.2 MW ...

However, the 2004 Boxing Day Earthquake near Indonesia was centered a good 20 miles offshore ... 9.2 MW ... so the 2011 Tohoku Earthquake ... 9.0 MW ... is NOT the most most powerful undersea earthquake ... although it might be the most intense, which is a "feels like" measure but not one that measures energy release per unit time ...

Surprisingly, cesium-135 contamination isn't a meteorological parameter, and so has absolutely nothing to do with climate ... and the melt-downs are strictly a human disaster ... the environment is expected to prosper in short order, as demonstrated by the top predators thriving in the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone right now ... wolves, owls and foxes are thick where the people had to abandon ... c.f. "Radioactive Wolves" documentary produced by Nature on PBS (so it has to be true) ...

When Cascadia ruptures again ... and it most certainly will ... we have the potential to measure the single most powerful earthquake in seismographic history ... 9.7 MW or better ... enough to ruin a sunny day in these parts ... that will be about 50 miles offshore ...

Please ... why do you think it's a "scientific fact" that the Earth shifted on her axis? ... how many of the great telescopes in the world built on equatorial mounts had to be torn down and rebuilt? ... go out and look, why in God's name do you think Polaris is no long the North Star? ... is it the same reason you think it never rains in Virginia during summer anymore? ... sheesh ... maybe once a month actually come out of your parents' basement and look around ...

The North star is still there and I can probably see it better than you can where I live but it's a juvenile argument mostly left to global warming junkies. Maybe Fukashima wasn't "the most powerful earthquake in history" based on revised figures but the main island of Japan moved 8 ft. east and the earth tilted slightly on it's axis. None of the global warming "scientists" want to consider the impact of such a catastrophic event including an ongoing nuclear meltdown because there is no money in it. It's easier to extort billions from good old Uncle and blame the decadent U.S. for causing droughts and floods in Africa.

 

[ReinyDays]

The North star is still there and I can probably see it better than you can where I live but it's a juvenile argument mostly left to global warming junkies. Maybe Fukashima wasn't "the most powerful earthquake in history" based on revised figures but the main island of Japan moved 8 ft. east and the earth tilted slightly on it's axis. None of the global warming "scientists" want to consider the impact of such a catastrophic event including an ongoing nuclear meltdown because there is no money in it. It's easier to extort billions from good old Uncle and blame the decadent U.S. for causing droughts and floods in Africa.

No you can't ... I'm two hours from the high desert ... I'll always have elevation on you ... if you measure the angle between the horizon and the North Star, you'll read your geographic latitude ... before 2004, in between 2004 and 2011, and after 2011 ... because the Earth hasn't shifted on her axis ... it's juvenile to say it has ... watch a spinning figure skater, she spins faster as she brings her arms in, but her axis of rotation never moves ...

AGW Theory doesn't include anything about earthquakes ... that's why we're ignoring them ... but please, be my guest and explain why the Pacific Ocean being 8 foot narrower should cause any measurable effect ... any at all ...

Hospitals are extorting trillions from good old Uncle Sam ... easy peasy ...