The French government accused of trying to assassinate Candace Owens?

[TimFitz]

This thread was started to promote an attention seeking right wing crackpot’s preposterous claims.

No one bothered to question the claim or look into it.

No one in France knows who Candice Owens is. And if they did, they certainly wouldn’t care.

The idea that a right wing American crank can claim that they are the targets of a major government (for no apparant reason), is as preposterous.

But it is a reflection of how deeply parochial and isolated her target audience is.

They took the preposterous at face value and treated it as “fact”.

 

[shockedcanadian]

This thread was started to promote an attention seeking right wing crackpot’s preposterous claims.

No one bothered to question the claim or look into it.

No one in France knows who Candice Owens is. And if they did, they certainly wouldn’t care.

The idea that a right wing American crank can claim that they are the targets of a major government (for no apparant reason), is as preposterous.

But it is a reflection of how deeply parochial and isolated her target audience is.

They took the preposterous at face value and treated it as “fact”.

Of course people in France know who she is, she is being sued by the Macrons I believe for her allegations that Ms. Macron is a man.

In fact, Macron asked Trump to call Candace to politely ask her to stop going down the rabbit hole before they pursued this court case. There was a French group who made the same allegation in France I believe.

Of course it is suspect. I would say it's probably 5% probable. That doesn't mean there aren't external actors either actually promoting this or injecting fear into her through the suggestions.

 

[Correll]

This thread was started to promote an attention seeking right wing crackpot’s preposterous claims.

No one bothered to question the claim or look into it.

How exactly am I supposed to "look into" claims about a french intelligence operation?

No one in France knows who Candice Owens is. And if they did, they certainly wouldn’t care.

THat seems unlikely. MAGA is a powerful force and it is unlikely that the french government is not paying attention to it, and considering how it might develop.

The idea that a right wing American crank can claim that they are the targets of a major government (for no apparant reason), is as preposterous.

The hysteria about MAGA and the supposed threat we pose to the world, has been ... CONSTANT for years.

For you to support that narrative and then to turn around and pretend that you can't see any "reason" for an intelligence operation to kill some leading MAGA voices,

is ******* retarded of you. You are a retarded shit talker.

But it is a reflection of how deeply parochial and isolated her target audience is.

Actually it is a reflection that we, MAGA, are taking the shit you people say, seriously,

They took the preposterous at face value and treated it as “fact”.

We did? Explain.

 

[Marener]

How exactly am I supposed to "look into" claims about a french intelligence operation?



THat seems unlikely. MAGA is a powerful force and it is unlikely that the french government is not paying attention to it, and considering how it might develop.





The hysteria about MAGA and the supposed threat we pose to the world, has been ... CONSTANT for years.

For you to support that narrative and then to turn around and pretend that you can't see any "reason" for an intelligence operation to kill some leading MAGA voices,

is ******* retarded of you. You are a retarded shit talker.




Actually it is a reflection that we, MAGA, are taking the shit you people say, seriously,




We did? Explain.

What’s more likely, the French government plotting to assassinate Owens and her catching wind of it, or she’s saying crazy false shit to get attention and money?

 

[TimFitz]

Of course people in France know who she is, she is being sued by the Macrons I believe for her allegations that Ms. Macron is a man.

In fact, Macron asked Trump to call Candace to politely ask her to stop going down the rabbit hole before they pursued this court case. There was a French group who made the same allegation in France I believe.

Of course it is suspect. I would say it's probably 5% probable. That doesn't mean there aren't external actors either actually promoting this or injecting fear into her through the suggestions.

That is true. But I doubt that many people care.

Macron isn’t really bothered by right wing American crackpots.

Owens and her ilk feed on Trump nation’s white victimhood and parochial world view. To the average Trump cultist, the idea that the French government would even think about assassinating an American right wing media whore seem plausible. Of course, it’s laugh out loud ridiculous everywhere else,

But Owen’s target audience is the flat earth crowd. People who couldn’t find France on a map.

She’s trying to esculate it into a conspiracy theory regarding Charlie Kirk.

Even Murdoch’s sleazy tabloid, the New York Post,isn’t buying.

 

[Zebra]

That is true. But I doubt that many people care.

Macron isn’t really bothered by right wing American crackpots.

his wife is

 

[TimFitz]

How exactly am I supposed to "look into" claims about a french intelligence operation?



THat seems unlikely. MAGA is a powerful force and it is unlikely that the french government is not paying attention to it, and considering how it might develop.





The hysteria about MAGA and the supposed threat we pose to the world, has been ... CONSTANT for years.

For you to support that narrative and then to turn around and pretend that you can't see any "reason" for an intelligence operation to kill some leading MAGA voices,

is ******* retarded of you. You are a retarded shit talker.




Actually it is a reflection that we, MAGA, are taking the shit you people say, seriously,




We did? Explain.

You bought the conspiracy theory. indeed, you spent most of your post saying thing like this.

“How exactly am I supposed to "look into" claims about a french intelligence operation?”

There is no French intelligence operation.

But you bought what she made up and tried to use it as an excuse for promoting her claims.

The rest of it sound like the rantings of a spoiled ten year old.

 

[Lockback]

Owens and her ilk feed on Trump nation’s white victimhood and parochial world view.

Why don't you shove your ignorant bigotry where the sun don't shine, pal?

 

[TimFitz]

Why don't you shove your ignorant bigotry where the sun don't shine, pal?

I accurately described what Owens is doing, and the reason why these stupid conspiracy theories are enthusiastically embraced by the Trump cult.

 

[Correll]

What’s more likely, the French government plotting to assassinate Owens and her catching wind of it, or she’s saying crazy false shit to get attention and money?

It is surprising that she would catch wind of it. I would not think that too many french intelligence agents would be of the kind of people to spill the beans.

 

[Lockback]

I accurately described what Owens is doing, and the reason why these stupid conspiracy theories are enthusiastically embraced by the Trump cult.

Bullshit. You leftists simply have to inject race into every goddam thing that comes up. And I'm no Candace Owens fan.
Oh and quit referring to the Trump "cult". He's won two - and quite possibly three - national elections, including a majority of the vote this last time around. Your "cult" is the majority of voting Americans, pal. It shows the absolute disdain you have for your fellow citizens. **** that.

 

[Marener]

It is surprising that she would catch wind of it. I would not think that too many french intelligence agents would be of the kind of people to spill the beans.

Now ask yourself, would you be surprised if she made it up to garner more clicks and money?

 

[Correll]

You bought the conspiracy theory.

This thread is about a "conspiracy theory". I am discussing the claims.

indeed, you spent most of your post saying thing like this.

“How exactly am I supposed to "look into" claims about a french intelligence operation?”

Perhaps, you could make the argument that I should have used a qualifier like "alleged".

BUT, the question is still valid and I note that you utterly failed to answer it.

There is no French intelligence operation.

That is you making an assumption, that is based on... from what I have seen from you, you ignoring the obvious relation between the stated opinon of MAGA from much of the world and what actions serious players might take, if they really believe the shit they have been saying.

But you bought what she made up and tried to use it as an excuse for promoting her claims.

No, I didn't. I just pointed out that the dismissal of her claim, and the stated reasons for the dismissals, made no sense. And I explaind why.

The rest of it sound like the rantings of a spoiled ten year old.

No, it really doesn't. YOu just SAID that, because on some level you know that your position is incredibly weak and if you can spout enough spin, you might be able to create an illusion that my points are silly and can be dismissed.


You said that and are doing that, becasue on some level you realize that you cannot actually refute my points.


The Status Quo powers, both here and abroad, have been talking about how scary and dangerous MAGA and TRUMP are, for years.

If they really mean that, if that is what they really believe, then the idea that they might launch intelligence operations to try to weaken or undermine elements of maga, is completely reasonable.


The response from the left in this thread, has been GASLIGHTING, in denying this simple truth.


The only way it would make sense for you to ignore what those people have said FOR YEARS,

would be if you had reason to believe that all those people were shit talking and KNEW that they were shit talking.


You have something you want to share with the class?

 

[Correll]

Now ask yourself, would you be surprised if she made it up to garner more clicks and money?

Yes, I would. She was a close friend and co-worker to the man and I just don't see her doing that.

 

[Zebra]

Owens is a ******* lunatic and it’s sad that so many people can’t see that.

you are right!

 

[Seymour Flops]

This is like the Trump Russian Pee Tape, or the Tom Homan Bribery Tape. You can believe it or not believe it, based on what your opinions were before you ever heard of it.

 

[PeterPilot]

Owens is a ******* lunatic and it’s sad that so many people can’t see that.

My bet is that you have not watched 2 minutes of her podcast.

You don't know truth from fiction or good from bad.

 

[Marener]

My bet is that you have not watched 2 minutes of her podcast.

You don't know truth from fiction or good from bad.

I’ve watched enough to know she’s pretty crazy.

 

[PeterPilot]

she is nuts

Too much truth for one's mind to handle is what causes posts like yours.

Yes, for some small and closed minds, the truth is just impossible to handle.

Candace speaks the truth, and you can't handle it.

 

[Marener]

Yes, I would. She was a close friend and co-worker to the man and I just don't see her doing that.

Similar ration, so you think it’s likely someone else would make it up and she believes them?