The Forgotten Part Of Normandy

[whitehall]

Propaganda reports made a big deal about the "secrecy" and fooling the Germans about the actual landing but it was pure exaggeration possibly intended to mask the incredible number of casualties. Ike was ready to send in as many men as it took to gain a foothold so the invasion became a contest of which side was able to sustain the most casualties and survive.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Gave us crap wars, S+L, incredible inequality (meanwhile, FDR was a genius. Too bad about the cigs)...and the worst divisiveness and inequality...Agree to disagree lol...ss ever....We Americans are not supposed to be political addicts, bring back the Fairness Doctrine and debate everywhere...

"....meanwhile, FDR was a genius...."


Clearly you haven't the vaguest idea what a mediocrity FDR was.


That's why I'm here......to educate the indoctrinated.

Based on the hagiography, one can't help but be surprised at how mediocre young Franklin was at just about everything. Prep school was Groton, college, Harvard....excelling at neither sports nor academics. "I can't understand this thing about Frank. He never amounted to much at school." "BEFORE THE TRUMPET: Young Franklin Roosevelt, 1882-1905," by Geoffrey C. Ward,, p. 180-181​

a. A 'C to C+' student; not much for homework, study, or research....but he focused on social-political clubs, debates and journalism.​

The stereotypical Democrats, once he had power he used it against his "betters."

Not the only rejection, but a significant one, was his attempt to join Porcellian, the oldest and most elite social club at Harvard. Theodore Roosevelt and other members of the Roosevelt family belonged to the club, but Franklin D. Roosevelt, who was president of the Harvard Crimson, never managed to be elected a member. At some time, in his late thirties, he told his relative Sheffield Cowles that this had been "the greatest disappointment in his life". Frances Richardson Keller, Fictions of U. S. History : A Theory & Four Illustrations, p. 116.​

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Porcellian members were future entrepreneurs, businessmen, bankers, and corporate lawyers.​

And they had rejected Franklin Roosevelt.​

His hatred of successful capitalists fit perfectly with his envy of Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Propaganda reports made a big deal about the "secrecy" and fooling the Germans about the actual landing but it was pure exaggeration possibly intended to mask the incredible number of casualties. Ike was ready to send in as many men as it took to gain a foothold so the invasion became a contest of which side was able to sustain the most casualties and survive.

This book was fascinating:

 

[francoHFW]

"....meanwhile, FDR was a genius...."


Clearly you haven't the vaguest idea what a mediocrity FDR was.


That's why I'm here......to educate the indoctrinated.

Based on the hagiography, one can't help but be surprised at how mediocre young Franklin was at just about everything. Prep school was Groton, college, Harvard....excelling at neither sports nor academics. "I can't understand this thing about Frank. He never amounted to much at school." "BEFORE THE TRUMPET: Young Franklin Roosevelt, 1882-1905," by Geoffrey C. Ward,, p. 180-181​

a. A 'C to C+' student; not much for homework, study, or research....but he focused on social-political clubs, debates and journalism.​

The stereotypical Democrats, once he had power he used it against his "betters."

Not the only rejection, but a significant one, was his attempt to join Porcellian, the oldest and most elite social club at Harvard. Theodore Roosevelt and other members of the Roosevelt family belonged to the club, but Franklin D. Roosevelt, who was president of the Harvard Crimson, never managed to be elected a member. At some time, in his late thirties, he told his relative Sheffield Cowles that this had been "the greatest disappointment in his life". Frances Richardson Keller, Fictions of U. S. History : A Theory & Four Illustrations, p. 116.​

​

Porcellian members were future entrepreneurs, businessmen, bankers, and corporate lawyers.​

And they had rejected Franklin Roosevelt.​

His hatred of successful capitalists fit perfectly with his envy of Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz he won the war...and the peace...

 

[francoHFW]

"....meanwhile, FDR was a genius...."


Clearly you haven't the vaguest idea what a mediocrity FDR was.


That's why I'm here......to educate the indoctrinated.

Based on the hagiography, one can't help but be surprised at how mediocre young Franklin was at just about everything. Prep school was Groton, college, Harvard....excelling at neither sports nor academics. "I can't understand this thing about Frank. He never amounted to much at school." "BEFORE THE TRUMPET: Young Franklin Roosevelt, 1882-1905," by Geoffrey C. Ward,, p. 180-181​

a. A 'C to C+' student; not much for homework, study, or research....but he focused on social-political clubs, debates and journalism.​

The stereotypical Democrats, once he had power he used it against his "betters."

Not the only rejection, but a significant one, was his attempt to join Porcellian, the oldest and most elite social club at Harvard. Theodore Roosevelt and other members of the Roosevelt family belonged to the club, but Franklin D. Roosevelt, who was president of the Harvard Crimson, never managed to be elected a member. At some time, in his late thirties, he told his relative Sheffield Cowles that this had been "the greatest disappointment in his life". Frances Richardson Keller, Fictions of U. S. History : A Theory & Four Illustrations, p. 116.​

​

Porcellian members were future entrepreneurs, businessmen, bankers, and corporate lawyers.​

And they had rejected Franklin Roosevelt.​

His hatred of successful capitalists fit perfectly with his envy of Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler.

Like Churchill then....lol. Fuq the swine. Though I did like the Fords...

 

[francoHFW]

Propaganda reports made a big deal about the "secrecy" and fooling the Germans about the actual landing but it was pure exaggeration possibly intended to mask the incredible number of casualties. Ike was ready to send in as many men as it took to gain a foothold so the invasion became a contest of which side was able to sustain the most casualties and survive.

If they woke up Hitler or let Rommel run the tanks, we could have been thrown back...

 

[PoliticalChic]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz he won the war...and the peace...

American capitalism won the war, to FDR's chagrin.....and we lost the peace to FDR's neo-Marxism.


There are only three things important to the Democrat program, agenda.....Race, Class, and Gender.
Not liberty, not religious freedom, not prosperity, not individuality, not tranquility.
Race, Class, and Gender.


“Cultural Marxism, though it’s dismissed by critics as a “term invented by the Right”, “was an undeniable school of thought taking Marxist categories of oppressed and oppressor beyond the economic realm and applying to it other forms of oppression: gender, race, sexuality.” Caldron Pool


“A hundred years ago, kids in classrooms were taught the color of their skin was their most important characteristic — and if they looked a certain way, they were inferior. Today, kids again are being taught that the color of their skin defines them — and if they look a certain way, they’re an oppressor.” Tim Scott Text of Sen. Tim Scott's GOP response to Biden speech

 

[francoHFW]

American capitalism won the war, to FDR's chagrin.....and we lost the peace to FDR's neo-Marxism.


There are only three things important to the Democrat program, agenda.....Race, Class, and Gender.
Not liberty, not religious freedom, not prosperity, not individuality, not tranquility.
Race, Class, and Gender.


“Cultural Marxism, though it’s dismissed by critics as a “term invented by the Right”, “was an undeniable school of thought taking Marxist categories of oppressed and oppressor beyond the economic realm and applying to it other forms of oppression: gender, race, sexuality.” Caldron Pool


“A hundred years ago, kids in classrooms were taught the color of their skin was their most important characteristic — and if they looked a certain way, they were inferior. Today, kids again are being taught that the color of their skin defines them — and if they look a certain way, they’re an oppressor.” Tim Scott Text of Sen. Tim Scott's GOP response to Biden speech

BULLSHYTTE! Dems support all minorities who have been screwed by white males....Nothing but fairness. Tax the rich and invest in America. Like FDR. Cheap college and training! And bring back debate EVERYWHERE!, dupe. lol. Marxism my butt. That's dictatorship to start. Where do you get that conspiracy etc crap?

 

[PoliticalChic]

BULLSHYTTE! Dems support all minorities who have been screwed by white males....Nothing but fairness. Tax the rich and invest in America. Like FDR. Cheap college and training! And bring back debate EVERYWHERE!, dupe. lol. Marxism my butt. That's dictatorship to start. Where do you get that conspiracy etc crap?

"Dems support all minorities who have been screwed by white males..

Wrong again.
Democrats shift their allegiance with the votes. They have no principles.

Start with the Socialist Saint of your religion, Militant Secularism.


9. "... Roosevelt’s embedded anti-Semitism was not confined to jokes. It was displayed in the refusal of the American government in 1939 to admit the desperate refugees on board theS.S. St. Louis,who were returned to Germany [to their deaths] – or to even fill the quotas that authorized the limited admission of Germans.

It was revealed in American government suppression of information about the mass murder of European Jews.


The White House [read 'Roosevelt'] opposed a resolution to create the War Refugee Board and delayed its establishment for fourteen months.

Orders to bomb railroad tracks leading to the extermination camps were never given, although Nazi facilities merely five miles away were destroyed. And special American missions were launched to rescue art treasures – and performing Lipizzaner horses."
[But not Jews.]
Betrayal: FDR and the Jews



a."However, it can be argued that because of his very outspoken and domineering mother who clearly possessed a strong streak of anti-Semitism, FDR couldn't help his underlying prejudice regarding Jews. As described in an entry of January 27, 1942, Henry Morganthau Diaries, "Roosevelt proclaimed to a shocked Crowley (Catholic Economist and wartime Alien Property Custodian): Leo, you know this is a Protestant country, and the Catholics and the Jews are here on sufferance. This comment exemplifies FDR's upbringing among America's Protestant elite and how it most likely perpetuated a belief system that explains his aloofness from the crimes that were committed against Jews during the Holocaust." https://www.mtholyoke.edu/~simon20r/SS St. Louis/roosevelt.html

10 ." Why did the administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president."FDR's troubling view of Jews

[The Spirit of St. Louis was built in San Diego by Ryan Airlines, and while the name "Lindbergh Field" isn't official, it has stuck as a colloquial moniker. There have been some attempts to disassociate that name from the airport on the grounds that Lindbergh's antisemitism made him a terrible choice for the hero worship that naming the airport after him implies, especially because Lindbergh himself was the target of a virtual boycott after he opposed entering World War II and made disparaging remarks about Jews (even President Franklin Roosevelt claimed he could tell Lindbergh was a Nazi). The first woman to run for president chose whom as her running mate?]



Interesting questions that an inquiring mind would have no trouble answering when considering Roosevelt's attitude toward other minorities....


"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "

What FDR said about Jews in private

What FDR said about Jews in private

www.latimes.com

Yet, the very first selection for Supreme Court Justice, by Roosevelt, was Hugo Black. Using his first opportunity to select the best candidate for the Supreme Court of the United States, Roosevelt's carefully selected choice was a racist, segregationist, anti-Catholic named Hugo Black.

"Through the appointment, FDR pleased the South and the liberals simultaneously..."Hugo Black and the KKK

And spit in the face of black Americans.




Bet government school doesn't teach these facts, does it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

BULLSHYTTE! Dems support all minorities who have been screwed by white males....Nothing but fairness. Tax the rich and invest in America. Like FDR. Cheap college and training! And bring back debate EVERYWHERE!, dupe. lol. Marxism my butt. That's dictatorship to start. Where do you get that conspiracy etc crap?

"Dems support all minorities who have been screwed by white males....Nothing but fairness."

Let's see what they have done to the country recently.


Their agenda is alienating straight, white, Christian males, and injecting boys with psychotropic drugs.

It's the Democrat culture.



We live in a culture that targets males, specifically straight white Christian males......and guess who many of the mass killers turn out to be.
Don’t be puzzled about young men who want to die, and kill little children.

It’s what they have been inculcated about their being a male, they have grown up in a culture that states that being gay is better.....they are victims, but everyone must celebrate their "pride." There's no straight, white male pride month.....quite the opposite.
What's the word you think of when you see "........masculinity."?



Christian, or religious in some other variation, they are immersed in a materialistic, not spiritual, society, where religion of any sort is mocked and marginalized. It is forbidden in schools or in polite society.
Family is targeted.....Liberal/Democrat culture has made single motherhood the goal, even though it dooms these children to lives punctuated with prison and poverty.
And being Caucasion is no privilege, either, with the major political party platform including anti-white racism.










Straight white Christian men…..the only unprotected category in America today….

And they go out with guns and kill themselves and others???? Why not???..........what do they have to live for anyway????

No biggie….government school taught them that the world is about to end, anyway: they are the evil that is destroying the Earth, by being potential "Breeders."







They know they are nothing but evil oppressors, having victimized the whole world for centuries. And worst of all…..they’re American.
This is what the 1619 Project of the NYTimes, and Critical Race Theory are all about.

They must both punish themselves, and also live up to their evil reputations.


And you wonder about the psychopaths that shoot up schools??????

You caused it by empowering Democrats.…..you stole the election so you can continue to enforce this culture.

And it began with Franklin Roosevelt and his embrace of Marxism.

 

[PoliticalChic]

BULLSHYTTE! Dems support all minorities who have been screwed by white males....Nothing but fairness. Tax the rich and invest in America. Like FDR. Cheap college and training! And bring back debate EVERYWHERE!, dupe. lol. Marxism my butt. That's dictatorship to start. Where do you get that conspiracy etc crap?

"And bring back debate EVERYWHERE!"

Let's see how honest you are......can you provide your posts decrying the censorship of the NYPost's exposure of Hunter Biden and his laptop?



Shall I wait????

 

[Flash]

This is an excellent discussion.

The Allies already had an invasion in Italy. Driving north was the short route to Germany.

Why didn't they put all the resources into that?

Why invade farther west that allowed the Russians more territory by their push west?

 

[PoliticalChic]

This is an excellent discussion.

The Allies already had an invasion in Italy. Driving north was the short route to Germany.

Why didn't they put all the resources into that?

Why invade farther west that allowed the Russians more territory by their push west?

Why didn't they?

Democrats.

 

[PoliticalChic]

This is an excellent discussion.

The Allies already had an invasion in Italy. Driving north was the short route to Germany.

Why didn't they put all the resources into that?

Why invade farther west that allowed the Russians more territory by their push west?

A little more detail about why the war was conducted the way it was.

FDR was "the Allies," and FDR did what Stalin told him to do.



Many of the leaders in Germany were anti-Hitler, but Stalin wouldn't allow Germany to surrender.
The head of German military intelligence, Canaris....tried to arrange a surrender....

Wilhelm Canaris, in full Wilhelm Franz Canaris, (born January 1, 1887, Aplerbeck, Westphalia, Germany—died April 9, 1945, Flossenbürg concentration camp, Bavaria), German admiral, head of military intelligence (Abwehr) under the Nazi regime and a key participant in the resistance of military officers to Adolf Hitler. Believing that the Nazi regime would ultimately destroy traditional conservative values and that its foreign ambitions were dangerous to Germany, he enlisted some of the anti-Hitler conspirators into the Abwehr and shielded their activities.
Britannica.com



Britain's intelligence chief said this about Canaris: 'It is said that had it not been for the Foreign Office's fear of offending Russia that he might have established direct contact with the admiral [Canaris] in 1942 on the removal of Hitler as a means of shortening the war."
“Gen. Menzies, Ex-British Intelligence Chief, Dies,” New York Times, May 31, 1968.

Did you see the date: 1942. When did the war with Germany finally end?
"May 7, 1945: Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims" Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims ? History.com This Day in History ? 5/7/1945


What prevented an earlier conclusion to the war?
"... fear of offending Russia..."

Fear of offending, it seems to me, suggests a relationship with one's superiors....
….Roosevelt considered Stalin his superior.

 

[francoHFW]

This is an excellent discussion.

The Allies already had an invasion in Italy. Driving north was the short route to Germany.

Why didn't they put all the resources into that?

Why invade farther west that allowed the Russians more territory by their push west?

Faster thru France, materiel already there...would happen sooner. NO CONSPIRACIES! Our allies wanted to be freed, but next time skip flattening le Havre, Caen, Cassino- ruins are no better...

 

[PoliticalChic]

Faster thru France, materiel already there...would happen sooner. NO CONSPIRACIES! Our allies wanted to be freed, but next time skip flattening le Havre, Caen, Cassino- ruins are no better...

It seems you are claiming more expertise than Eisenhower, huh?

Eisenhower's assessment at the time?

....until FDR bribed him with another star, Eisenhower disagreed with the Stalin/FDR plan to attack from the far West, Normandy.

"Italy was the correct place in which to deploy our main forces and the objective should be the Valle of the PO.In no other area could we so well threaten the whole German structure including France, the Balkans and the Reich itself. Here also our air would becloser to vital objectives in Germany."
FRUS: The conferences at Cairo and Tehran, 1943, p.359-361
That report was published in "Foreign Relations of the United States" in 1961
Eisenhower's statement was to an audience in November 26, 1943....



Franklin Roosevelt and his Democrats......the greatest friend the Bolsheviks had........and have.

Just ask Hillary were she got that dossier.

 

[francoHFW]

A little more detail about why the war was conducted the way it was.

FDR was "the Allies," and FDR did what Stalin told him to do.



Many of the leaders in Germany were anti-Hitler, but Stalin wouldn't allow Germany to surrender.
The head of German military intelligence, Canaris....tried to arrange a surrender....

Wilhelm Canaris, in full Wilhelm Franz Canaris, (born January 1, 1887, Aplerbeck, Westphalia, Germany—died April 9, 1945, Flossenbürg concentration camp, Bavaria), German admiral, head of military intelligence (Abwehr) under the Nazi regime and a key participant in the resistance of military officers to Adolf Hitler. Believing that the Nazi regime would ultimately destroy traditional conservative values and that its foreign ambitions were dangerous to Germany, he enlisted some of the anti-Hitler conspirators into the Abwehr and shielded their activities.
Britannica.com



Britain's intelligence chief said this about Canaris: 'It is said that had it not been for the Foreign Office's fear of offending Russia that he might have established direct contact with the admiral [Canaris] in 1942 on the removal of Hitler as a means of shortening the war."
“Gen. Menzies, Ex-British Intelligence Chief, Dies,” New York Times, May 31, 1968.

Did you see the date: 1942. When did the war with Germany finally end?
"May 7, 1945: Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims" Germany surrenders unconditionally to the Allies at Reims ? History.com This Day in History ? 5/7/1945


What prevented an earlier conclusion to the war?
"... fear of offending Russia..."

Fear of offending, it seems to me, suggests a relationship with one's superiors....
….Roosevelt considered Stalin his superior.

AMERICANS insisted on unconditional surrender in both wars. With Hitler dead, anything could have happened...Of course FDR wanted Russia happy, they were winning the war against Germany.

Stop politicizing this with BS. But many thanks to the GOP for wrecking the world economy and isolationism that gave us militarist RW ASSHOLES in Germany and Japan- GOP always a total catastrophe....since TR. Ike was an indie...

 

[francoHFW]

It seems you are claiming more expertise than Eisenhower, huh?

Eisenhower's assessment at the time?

....until FDR bribed him with another star, Eisenhower disagreed with the Stalin/FDR plan to attack from the far West, Normandy.

"Italy was the correct place in which to deploy our main forces and the objective should be the Valle of the PO.In no other area could we so well threaten the whole German structure including France, the Balkans and the Reich itself. Here also our air would becloser to vital objectives in Germany."
FRUS: The conferences at Cairo and Tehran, 1943, p.359-361
That report was published in "Foreign Relations of the United States" in 1961
Eisenhower's statement was to an audience in November 26, 1943....



Franklin Roosevelt and his Democrats......the greatest friend the Bolsheviks had........and have.

Just ask Hillary were she got that dossier.

Bolshies lol...Hill got it from Republicans who lost quick to the con man. Fusion Research. AND NEVER USED IT. aND IT'S SOUNDS JUST LIKE THE HILARIOUS SCUMBAG, DUPE. oops







i'm with you. I have visited the beaches and beautiful Normandy 4 times...my uncle had a house near Merville...when I was 10 we had two weeks in Cabourg. They should flatten Austria and Germany, not la Belle France lol...

 

[PoliticalChic]

AMERICANS insisted on unconditional surrender in both wars. With Hitler dead, anything could have happened...Of course FDR wanted Russia happy, they were winning the war against Germany.

Stop politicizing this with BS. But many thanks to the GOP for wrecking the world economy and isolationism that gave us militarist RW ASSHOLES in Germany and Japan- GOP always a total catastrophe....since TR. Ike was an indie...

This is what happens when your restrict your pronouncements to what the party tells you to say:

Wrong again.


Unconditional surrender was the demand by FDR's boss, Stalin.

As always, I will document what I say, and you will remain our best source of greenhouse gases.



While Hitler was useful to Stalin early on, the endgame required that his brand of socialism, national socialism....based on nationalism and/or race...had to be removed as an impediment to Stalin's conquest of Europe, and then further.
Stalin's policy was simple: the result of the war had to leave Germany a smoldering wreckage, with no ability to resist Stalin's forces. This was the basis of the Morgenthau Plan.


c. "Archival evidence indicates that the Soviet’s wanted the war to continue long enough for them to conquer Eastern Europe and in order for Germany to be utterly destroyed or “pastoralized” which was called for in the Morgenthau Plan which was actually written by Soviet spy Harry Dexter White. The Soviets were also clamoring for a “second front” in France in order to deflect the allies out of Italy and the Balkans which was too close to Russia."
Chuck Morse Speaks: The Canaris Cover-up


Enter Roosevelt, stage Left.

The plan for 'unconditional surrender' began in the Kremlin, was foisted on to the Roosevelt administration via Stalin's spies working for Roosevelt.
When Stalin saw a possibility of German surrender before they were emasculated....he formed the Morgenthau Plan.


Here's the timeline:

America entered WWII very late in 1941....actually, 1942.


F.W. Winterbotham was chief of air intelligence for Britain's MI6, and wrote in his memoir that he had approved a plan sent by Wilhelm Canaris, head of German military intelligence, to overthrow Hitler and surrender to the Allies, in 1942. ("Secret and Personal," by F.W. Winterbotham )

Imagine....the war could have been ended in '42-'43.
Stalin wouldn't allow it.



Harry Hopkins, Stalin's spy who actually lived in the White House gave a speech on June 22, 1942, at the Russia Aid Rally, Madison Square Garden, where he said "And his cities, one by one, will be destroyed by Allied air forces." Ottawa Citizen - Google News Archive Search

Hopkins was telegraphing Stalin's demands that Germany be pulverized, pastoralized, de-industrialized.....just after anti-Nazi/anti-communist German resistance have made contact with the Allies to talk surrender.



"It was at about the time of this speech that unconditional surrender was being, in effect, rammed through US government channels (May 1942), just as the big press for Stalin's 'second front' was also under way." Diana West, "American Betrayal," p. 304



Lots of facts there for the Roosevelt groupies to try an dispute.
Bet they can't.​

Time for you to stop being shackled to the propaganda.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Bolshies lol...Hill got it from Republicans who lost quick to the con man. Fusion Research. AND NEVER USED IT. aND IT'S SOUNDS JUST LIKE THE HILARIOUS SCUMBAG, DUPE. oops







i'm with you. I have visited the beaches and beautiful Normandy 4 times...my uncle had a house near Merville...when I was 10 we had two weeks in Cabourg. They should flatten Austria and Germany, not la Belle France lol...

Roosevelt: "I would rather lose New Zealand, Australia or anything else than have the Russian front collapse."
Robert Dallek, "Franklin D. Roosevelt and American Foreign Policy, 1932-1945," p. 338.


Yup!
'Russia Uber Alles'

What nation did Roosevelt represent, again?​