The Folly of the Leftists' Carbon "Commitments"

DGS49

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These "goals" of zero carbon are utter nonsense. The expert speaks...

Marchese tries again: "but aren't there credible pathways to decarbonizing the grid?" A swing and a miss. Smil replies: "Germany, after nearly half a trillion dollars, in 20 years they went from getting 84 percent of their primary energy from fossil fuels to 76 percent. Can you tell me how you'd go from 76 percent fossil to zero by 2030, 2035? I'm sorry, the reality is what it is."
 

These "goals" of zero carbon are utter nonsense. The expert speaks...

Marchese tries again: "but aren't there credible pathways to decarbonizing the grid?" A swing and a miss. Smil replies: "Germany, after nearly half a trillion dollars, in 20 years they went from getting 84 percent of their primary energy from fossil fuels to 76 percent. Can you tell me how you'd go from 76 percent fossil to zero by 2030, 2035? I'm sorry, the reality is what it is."
Greenies don't deal in reality so expect the same foolishness to overtake us
 
Except for the vaccine ruse, it's the most prolific scam in the history of the world.

Fortunately for the serious people in the world, after 20 years, it is still a laughable effort and will continue to be for decades. World banks collapse without hedge funding on fossil fuels....Drrrr.
All debt floated on fossil fuels....all of it.

Carbon zero.....


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These "goals" of zero carbon are utter nonsense. The expert speaks...

Marchese tries again: "but aren't there credible pathways to decarbonizing the grid?" A swing and a miss. Smil replies: "Germany, after nearly half a trillion dollars, in 20 years they went from getting 84 percent of their primary energy from fossil fuels to 76 percent. Can you tell me how you'd go from 76 percent fossil to zero by 2030, 2035? I'm sorry, the reality is what it is."

No, that's what reality ISN'T. According to Wikipedia's article on German electricity, they get 20.2% + 9.5% + 10.4% + 0.3% or 40.4% of their power from fossil fuels. Where did Vaclav Smil's data come from? No telling.

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4) Burger, Bruno (14 February 2022). Öffentliche Nettostromerzeugung in Deutschland im Jahr 2021 [Public Net Electricity Generation in Germany in 2021] (PDF) (in German). Freiburg, Germany: Fraunhofer-Institut für Solare Energiesysteme ISE. Retrieved 17 May 2022.
 
No, that's what reality ISN'T. According to Wikipedia's article on German electricity, they get 20.2% + 9.5% + 10.4% + 0.3% or 40.4% of their power from fossil fuels. Where did Vaclav Smil's data come from? No telling.

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4) Burger, Bruno (14 February 2022). Öffentliche Nettostromerzeugung in Deutschland im Jahr 2021 [Public Net Electricity Generation in Germany in 2021] (PDF) (in German). Freiburg, Germany: Fraunhofer-Institut für Solare Energiesysteme ISE. Retrieved 17 May 2022.

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No, that's what reality ISN'T. According to Wikipedia's article on German electricity, they get 20.2% + 9.5% + 10.4% + 0.3% or 40.4% of their power from fossil fuels. Where did Vaclav Smil's data come from? No telling.

Electricity isn't "primary energy".
 
He was comparing it to solar and wind. What sort of energy do they produce?
 
No, that's what reality ISN'T. According to Wikipedia's article on German electricity, they get 20.2% + 9.5% + 10.4% + 0.3% or 40.4% of their power from fossil fuels. Where did Vaclav Smil's data come from? No telling.

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4) Burger, Bruno (14 February 2022). Öffentliche Nettostromerzeugung in Deutschland im Jahr 2021 [Public Net Electricity Generation in Germany in 2021] (PDF) (in German). Freiburg, Germany: Fraunhofer-Institut für Solare Energiesysteme ISE. Retrieved 17 May 2022.

Energy in Germany - Wikipedia.

As of 2021, German primary energy consumption amounted to 12,193 Petajoule, with more than 75% coming from fossil sources
 
Interesting that two articles in Wikipedia on the same topic have such different numbers. From the German Energy Sector article.

Germany's electrical grid is part of the Synchronous grid of Continental Europe. In 2020, due to COVID-19 conditions and strong winds, Germany produced 484 TW⋅h of electricity of which over 50% was from renewable energy sources, 24% from coal, and 12% from natural gas.[5] This is the first year renewables represented more than 50% of the total electricity production and a major change from 2018, when a full 38% was from coal, only 40% was from renewable energy sources, and 8% was from natural gas.[6]

Germany's installed capacity for electric generation increased from 121 gigawatts (GW) in 2000 to 218 GW in 2019, an 80% increase, while electricity generation increased only 5% in the same period.[7]

Even though renewables production increased significantly between 1991 and 2017, fossil power production remained at more or less constant levels. In the same period, nuclear power production decreased due to the phase-out plan, and much of the increase in renewables filled the gap left behind by closing nuclear power plants. However 2019 and 2020 saw significant reductions in electricity generation from fossil fuel, from 252 TW⋅h in 2018 to 181 TW⋅h in 2020. Germany will phase-out nuclear power by end of 2022, meaning that future growth in renewables will be needed to fill the gap again. Germany also plans to phase out coal by 2038 or earlier.[8]
 

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