The Flint Water Crisis: An insight into Republicanism.

[JoeNormal]

How is that a Republican party issue? Just because you feces mongers try to twist it that way doesn't make it a fact. The truth is it's being dealt with and any guilty people will pay the price, regardless of party affiliation.

I don't see how party affiliation has anything to do with how flint was screwed by their own state, local, deq which were all comprised of different parties. It has more to do with how incompetent government and agencies are.

Republicans hate government. That's why they make it a bad as possible.

So in your world.... government across the entire planet... would all be "good" if not for Republicans, which apparently control government throughout the world?

Do you know how idiotic that sounds?

Government across the entire planet? Where people are free to elect government officials that reflect their will, they have the good sense to never put anything resembling Republicans in office. The countries that briefly flirted with Republicanesque austerity measures have realized the error of their ways and are returning to a more egalitarian approach.

Yeah, they are not doing nearly as well as Greece which rejected Republican-esque austerity. Tell us how great they are doing.... I'm waiting.

Greece didn't reject austerity. They were going to but were pressured by other members of the EU to keep it. France on the other hand tried it and then realized how much it sucked and reversed it. They're doing just fine.

 

[Andylusion]

The 50 year contract was up, it did not end a year or so later.
How could they pay the bill when many residents did not pay their water bills?
That was why they wanted to save some money, so that Flint residences would be able to afford to pay their water bills.

No, you are misreading something. Here is my source:

Michigan Truth Squad: Who approved switch to Flint River? State's answers draw fouls

Snyder said that Detroit, after being informed of the Flint council vote, sent a "letter of termination" of water service. Detroit sent a letter giving Flint one year on its existing contract, but that didn't mean Flint couldn't get water from Detroit after that date. In fact, there was a flurry of negotiations between Detroit and Flint to sign a new contract that would carry Flint through until it could connect to the under-construction pipeline. That new contract was going to cost Flint more money.

This distinction is important to note because merely stating that Flint received a "letter of termination" makes it sound as if a thirsty Flint had no choice but to stick a straw in the Flint River. Flint could have elected to sign a new contract with the the Detroit water system (in fact, Flint reconnected to Detroit water after the situation in the city became a full-fledged, hair-on-fire crisis). Flint disconnected from Detroit because it was cheaper to take water from the Flint River until the new pipeline was completed. Here's a letter from then-emergency manager Darnell Earley saying Flint was choosing to use Flint water instead of Detroit water.

Which brings us to the state's timeline statement: "June 2013: City of Flint decides to use the Flint River as a water source."

Flint officials didn't make that decision while under state emergency management. State-appointed emergency manager Ed Kurtz made that decision, which would have had to be approved by the state. Here's

You don't need a contract genius. There are cities that receive water from Detroit without a contract. Flint notified the Detroit water dept that they would be switching to their backup system which had been used before and was fine. The emergency manager wasn't responsible for not adding the proper chemical to the water. That's where the failure was

Duhh. Dummy if you are referring to the mention of "contract" highlighted in blue, that isn't from me. It is a quote directly from MLIVE. Mlive reporters are right on the scene. If you think they were mistaken, call 'em up and get them to post an apology. Good luck with that...dummy!

Again.... the problem is... why didn't they have the money to buy the water to begin with? Because they drove their city into the dirt.

If Flint had not spent itself into a crisis to start with, they would not have needed to find water cheaper than Detroit.

If they had not spent themselves into crisis, they would not have needed a new pipeline.

If they had not spent themselves into crisis, they would not have had to use the river.

In fact, why did Detroit have to have a contract, and cancel service? Because Detroit spent itself into oblivion too. They had no money to be lenient towards Flint, because they have screwed themselves as well.

See you guys on the left, keep looking at all these consequences, and trying to blame Republicans for it, because you are children that blame shift.

When the reality is, all of this, never would have have happened if the left-wingers in these local governments, hadn't spent themselves into bankruptcy.

Actually the Water Dept is a separate entity. With a separate budget, they make money

If that were true, the government wouldn't be able to make contracts on supplying water. Am I wrong? If water service was run as a private business, why would government be even talking about it?

 

[Andylusion]

I don't see how party affiliation has anything to do with how flint was screwed by their own state, local, deq which were all comprised of different parties. It has more to do with how incompetent government and agencies are.

Republicans hate government. That's why they make it a bad as possible.

So in your world.... government across the entire planet... would all be "good" if not for Republicans, which apparently control government throughout the world?

Do you know how idiotic that sounds?

Government across the entire planet? Where people are free to elect government officials that reflect their will, they have the good sense to never put anything resembling Republicans in office. The countries that briefly flirted with Republicanesque austerity measures have realized the error of their ways and are returning to a more egalitarian approach.

Yeah, they are not doing nearly as well as Greece which rejected Republican-esque austerity. Tell us how great they are doing.... I'm waiting.

Greece didn't reject austerity. They were going to but were pressured by other members of the EU to keep it. France on the other hand tried it and then realized how much it sucked and reversed it. They're doing just fine.

They're doing fine???

France Declares State of Economic Emergency

What are you smoking?! France declared an economic emergency not even 30 days ago. Doing fine compared to what??

 

[sealybobo]

People need to keep that automation smooth and running correctly, plus they need to make the parts and things for all of that.

And how long will it be before machines replicate and repair themselves? Some computers are powerful enough to do that now with proper programming.

But more on point. All it would take to run an entire automated operation is one or two technicians. Physical labor would become cheaper than it is now and millions would be out of work indefinitely; their jobs taken over by machines.

Maybe humans stop having more than 1 or 2 kids in the future? Maybe poor people stop having so many kids and eventually the human population cuts in half.

Sure for some it will be sad to not have kids but so what if they can't afford to have kids or if the economy doesn't need more people? Is having a kid a human right?

What will happen to the millions of rural Chinese men who will never have a wife, or even a girlfriend?
Due to sex-selective abortion, the gender ratio is so skewed that every year, a million more boys are born than girls. By 2020, the Chinese government estimates that there will be at least 30 million men of marriageable age that may be unable to find a spouse. What kind of social and economic effect will it have on China? Will it increase crime?

I imagine the "losers" in this marriage market are poor rural men. What do they think about the situation?

Funny these leftist don't want poor Americans to have kids, they'd rather ship them in from Mexico and central America. For some Reason foreign born babies are more deserving of being born, and having a chance at the American dream.

Id actually prefer our population cut in half.

Why's that? more for you? Who's gonna pay for your social security? Why do you want foreign children here and american kids slaughtered through abortion?

I don't want them, the beast you serve does. The machine. Corporations run everything. And that's gonna benefit you tiny Tim?

 

[JoeNormal]

Republicans hate government. That's why they make it a bad as possible.

So in your world.... government across the entire planet... would all be "good" if not for Republicans, which apparently control government throughout the world?

Do you know how idiotic that sounds?

Government across the entire planet? Where people are free to elect government officials that reflect their will, they have the good sense to never put anything resembling Republicans in office. The countries that briefly flirted with Republicanesque austerity measures have realized the error of their ways and are returning to a more egalitarian approach.

Yeah, they are not doing nearly as well as Greece which rejected Republican-esque austerity. Tell us how great they are doing.... I'm waiting.

Greece didn't reject austerity. They were going to but were pressured by other members of the EU to keep it. France on the other hand tried it and then realized how much it sucked and reversed it. They're doing just fine.

They're doing fine???

France Declares State of Economic Emergency

What are you smoking?! France declared an economic emergency not even 30 days ago. Doing fine compared to what??

They are currently having to deal with an influx of refugees. Once they get through that, it'll be business as usual.

 

[JQPublic1]

My sources at Mlive don't agree with yours. Mlive reports that Snyder conflated that lie and made it seem that the cut off was imminent when in fact it wasn't. Flint could have stayed on the Detroit water line as long as they paid their bill or until their contract ended a year or so later. But using the FR water wasn't the problem. The damn republicans didn't oversee the proper treatment of the water and their own state agencies DHHS and MDEQ were blatant obstructionists that hindered every thing the EPA suggested by lying and the use of unmitigated skullduggery.

The 50 year contract was up, it did not end a year or so later.
How could they pay the bill when many residents did not pay their water bills?
That was why they wanted to save some money, so that Flint residences would be able to afford to pay their water bills.

No, you are misreading something. Here is my source:

Michigan Truth Squad: Who approved switch to Flint River? State's answers draw fouls

Snyder said that Detroit, after being informed of the Flint council vote, sent a "letter of termination" of water service. Detroit sent a letter giving Flint one year on its existing contract, but that didn't mean Flint couldn't get water from Detroit after that date. In fact, there was a flurry of negotiations between Detroit and Flint to sign a new contract that would carry Flint through until it could connect to the under-construction pipeline. That new contract was going to cost Flint more money.

This distinction is important to note because merely stating that Flint received a "letter of termination" makes it sound as if a thirsty Flint had no choice but to stick a straw in the Flint River. Flint could have elected to sign a new contract with the the Detroit water system (in fact, Flint reconnected to Detroit water after the situation in the city became a full-fledged, hair-on-fire crisis). Flint disconnected from Detroit because it was cheaper to take water from the Flint River until the new pipeline was completed. Here's a letter from then-emergency manager Darnell Earley saying Flint was choosing to use Flint water instead of Detroit water.

Which brings us to the state's timeline statement: "June 2013: City of Flint decides to use the Flint River as a water source."

Flint officials didn't make that decision while under state emergency management. State-appointed emergency manager Ed Kurtz made that decision, which would have had to be approved by the state. Here's

You don't need a contract genius. There are cities that receive water from Detroit without a contract. Flint notified the Detroit water dept that they would be switching to their backup system which had been used before and was fine. The emergency manager wasn't responsible for not adding the proper chemical to the water. That's where the failure was

Duhh. Dummy if you are referring to the mention of "contract" highlighted in blue, that isn't from me. It is a quote directly from MLIVE. Mlive reporters are right on the scene. If you think they were mistaken, call 'em up and get them to post an apology. Good luck with that...dummy!

Again.... the problem is... why didn't they have the money to buy the water to begin with? Because they drove their city into the dirt.

If Flint had not spent itself into a crisis to start with, they would not have needed to find water cheaper than Detroit.

If they had not spent themselves into crisis, they would not have needed a new pipeline.

If they had not spent themselves into crisis, they would not have had to use the river.

In fact, why did Detroit have to have a contract, and cancel service? Because Detroit spent itself into oblivion too. They had no money to be lenient towards Flint, because they have screwed themselves as well.

See you guys on the left, keep looking at all these consequences, and trying to blame Republicans for it, because you are children that blame shift.

When the reality is, all of this, never would have have happened if the left-wingers in these local governments, hadn't spent themselves into bankruptcy.

Where did you get the notion that Flint didn't have the money to "buy the water from Detroit to begin with? I don't see that in the MLIVE report. Are you just assuming things again?

I'll say THIS again. Using FR water isn't the problem. Using untreated FR water is/was the problem and it happened, suspiciously, under republican rule. FR water had been used several times before on a temporary basis under democrat oversight and there was NEVER a crisis. Hmmmmmm!

 

[JQPublic1]

(Wellll, I don't knooowwwwww ~Ronald Reagan}

That may be true, but Machines don't buy the stuff that is being made. What is the point in using machines to manufacture things when no one has a job because of automation and can't buy the product?

People need to keep that automation smooth and running correctly, plus they need to make the parts and things for all of that.

And how long will it be before machines replicate and repair themselves? Some computers are powerful enough to do that now with proper programming.

But more on point. All it would take to run an entire automated operation is one or two technicians. Physical labor would become cheaper than it is now and millions would be out of work indefinitely; their jobs taken over by machines.

Maybe humans stop having more than 1 or 2 kids in the future? Maybe poor people stop having so many kids and eventually the human population cuts in half.

Sure for some it will be sad to not have kids but so what if they can't afford to have kids or if the economy doesn't need more people? Is having a kid a human right?

What will happen to the millions of rural Chinese men who will never have a wife, or even a girlfriend?
Due to sex-selective abortion, the gender ratio is so skewed that every year, a million more boys are born than girls. By 2020, the Chinese government estimates that there will be at least 30 million men of marriageable age that may be unable to find a spouse. What kind of social and economic effect will it have on China? Will it increase crime?

I imagine the "losers" in this marriage market are poor rural men. What do they think about the situation?

Funny these leftist don't want poor Americans to have kids, they'd rather ship them in from Mexico and central America. For some Reason foreign born babies are more deserving of being born, and having a chance at the American dream.

Id actually prefer our population cut in half.

So are you proposing genocide or something? Heh heh heh!

I suppose if the US population was halved overnight, all the money paid into entitlements by workers no longer with us would benefit those still living. But the clean up of all those dead bodies would be an almost insurmountable task.

And if the relatively few innovators among us perish in that holocaust, a gradual DEVOLUTION could occur that would make us vulnerable to invasion from more technological advanced countries with strong viable populations.

 

[JQPublic1]

Come on man. You know better. Detroit Water and Sewage fucked Flint over and they had no option to use Flint River in the interim. But why blame politicians? They are only politicians. No one adjusted the protocols for treating the Flint River water.

Why the hell don't we start there? Then start chopping heads at the agencies who hid this shit?

My sources at Mlive don't agree with yours. Mlive reports that Snyder conflated that lie and made it seem that the cut off was imminent when in fact it wasn't. Flint could have stayed on the Detroit water line as long as they paid their bill or until their contract ended a year or so later. But using the FR water wasn't the problem. The damn republicans didn't oversee the proper treatment of the water and their own state agencies DHHS and MDEQ were blatant obstructionists that hindered every thing the EPA suggested by lying and the use of unmitigated skullduggery.

The 50 year contract was up, it did not end a year or so later.
How could they pay the bill when many residents did not pay their water bills?
That was why they wanted to save some money, so that Flint residences would be able to afford to pay their water bills.

No, you are misreading something. Here is my source:

Michigan Truth Squad: Who approved switch to Flint River? State's answers draw fouls

Snyder said that Detroit, after being informed of the Flint council vote, sent a "letter of termination" of water service. Detroit sent a letter giving Flint one year on its existing contract, but that didn't mean Flint couldn't get water from Detroit after that date. In fact, there was a flurry of negotiations between Detroit and Flint to sign a new contract that would carry Flint through until it could connect to the under-construction pipeline. That new contract was going to cost Flint more money.

This distinction is important to note because merely stating that Flint received a "letter of termination" makes it sound as if a thirsty Flint had no choice but to stick a straw in the Flint River. Flint could have elected to sign a new contract with the the Detroit water system (in fact, Flint reconnected to Detroit water after the situation in the city became a full-fledged, hair-on-fire crisis). Flint disconnected from Detroit because it was cheaper to take water from the Flint River until the new pipeline was completed. Here's a letter from then-emergency manager Darnell Earley saying Flint was choosing to use Flint water instead of Detroit water.

Which brings us to the state's timeline statement: "June 2013: City of Flint decides to use the Flint River as a water source."

Flint officials didn't make that decision while under state emergency management. State-appointed emergency manager Ed Kurtz made that decision, which would have had to be approved by the state. Here's

Come on now idiot, keep up with me. Where the hell is the tax money? YOU ignorant liberals say we conservatives ***** about money. Well f#ck me running you ARE right!

TAX PAYERS money you got THAT idiot. NOW you want to prove how smart you. Tell Matthew where that tax money went. The OP can take his ego and shove it up his ass.

TAX MONEY
White money
Negro money
Asian money
Christian money
Islamic money
Jewish money
Mormon money

Are you catching up idiot or do you need your walker? Just WHERE is the money idiot?

Liberals will probably blame us white people on the sinking of the titanic and that zeppelin that crashed in New York/Jersey because of that lighting rod(that was also the fault of republicans}

Liberals will blame white people? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[JQPublic1]

My sources at Mlive don't agree with yours. Mlive reports that Snyder conflated that lie and made it seem that the cut off was imminent when in fact it wasn't. Flint could have stayed on the Detroit water line as long as they paid their bill or until their contract ended a year or so later. But using the FR water wasn't the problem. The damn republicans didn't oversee the proper treatment of the water and their own state agencies DHHS and MDEQ were blatant obstructionists that hindered every thing the EPA suggested by lying and the use of unmitigated skullduggery.

The 50 year contract was up, it did not end a year or so later.
How could they pay the bill when many residents did not pay their water bills?
That was why they wanted to save some money, so that Flint residences would be able to afford to pay their water bills.

No, you are misreading something. Here is my source:

Michigan Truth Squad: Who approved switch to Flint River? State's answers draw fouls

Snyder said that Detroit, after being informed of the Flint council vote, sent a "letter of termination" of water service. Detroit sent a letter giving Flint one year on its existing contract, but that didn't mean Flint couldn't get water from Detroit after that date. In fact, there was a flurry of negotiations between Detroit and Flint to sign a new contract that would carry Flint through until it could connect to the under-construction pipeline. That new contract was going to cost Flint more money.

This distinction is important to note because merely stating that Flint received a "letter of termination" makes it sound as if a thirsty Flint had no choice but to stick a straw in the Flint River. Flint could have elected to sign a new contract with the the Detroit water system (in fact, Flint reconnected to Detroit water after the situation in the city became a full-fledged, hair-on-fire crisis). Flint disconnected from Detroit because it was cheaper to take water from the Flint River until the new pipeline was completed. Here's a letter from then-emergency manager Darnell Earley saying Flint was choosing to use Flint water instead of Detroit water.

Which brings us to the state's timeline statement: "June 2013: City of Flint decides to use the Flint River as a water source."

Flint officials didn't make that decision while under state emergency management. State-appointed emergency manager Ed Kurtz made that decision, which would have had to be approved by the state. Here's

You don't need a contract genius. There are cities that receive water from Detroit without a contract. Flint notified the Detroit water dept that they would be switching to their backup system which had been used before and was fine. The emergency manager wasn't responsible for not adding the proper chemical to the water. That's where the failure was

Duhh. Dummy if you are referring to the mention of "contract" highlighted in blue, that isn't from me. It is a quote directly from MLIVE. Mlive reporters are right on the scene. If you think they were mistaken, call 'em up and get them to post an apology. Good luck with that...dummy!

You used it moron.. they are wrong..i'm on the scene but you're an idiot pushing an agenda

My agenda is to get at the truth, numbskull. If you are dense enough to believe your personal assumptions are better than that of professional MLIVE reporters on the ground in Flint, you are more of a delusional fool than I could ever imagine.

 

[JQPublic1]

The 50 year contract was up, it did not end a year or so later.
How could they pay the bill when many residents did not pay their water bills?
That was why they wanted to save some money, so that Flint residences would be able to afford to pay their water bills.

No, you are misreading something. Here is my source:

Michigan Truth Squad: Who approved switch to Flint River? State's answers draw fouls

Snyder said that Detroit, after being informed of the Flint council vote, sent a "letter of termination" of water service. Detroit sent a letter giving Flint one year on its existing contract, but that didn't mean Flint couldn't get water from Detroit after that date. In fact, there was a flurry of negotiations between Detroit and Flint to sign a new contract that would carry Flint through until it could connect to the under-construction pipeline. That new contract was going to cost Flint more money.

This distinction is important to note because merely stating that Flint received a "letter of termination" makes it sound as if a thirsty Flint had no choice but to stick a straw in the Flint River. Flint could have elected to sign a new contract with the the Detroit water system (in fact, Flint reconnected to Detroit water after the situation in the city became a full-fledged, hair-on-fire crisis). Flint disconnected from Detroit because it was cheaper to take water from the Flint River until the new pipeline was completed. Here's a letter from then-emergency manager Darnell Earley saying Flint was choosing to use Flint water instead of Detroit water.

Which brings us to the state's timeline statement: "June 2013: City of Flint decides to use the Flint River as a water source."

Flint officials didn't make that decision while under state emergency management. State-appointed emergency manager Ed Kurtz made that decision, which would have had to be approved by the state. Here's

You don't need a contract genius. There are cities that receive water from Detroit without a contract. Flint notified the Detroit water dept that they would be switching to their backup system which had been used before and was fine. The emergency manager wasn't responsible for not adding the proper chemical to the water. That's where the failure was

Duhh. Dummy if you are referring to the mention of "contract" highlighted in blue, that isn't from me. It is a quote directly from MLIVE. Mlive reporters are right on the scene. If you think they were mistaken, call 'em up and get them to post an apology. Good luck with that...dummy!

Again.... the problem is... why didn't they have the money to buy the water to begin with? Because they drove their city into the dirt.

If Flint had not spent itself into a crisis to start with, they would not have needed to find water cheaper than Detroit.

If they had not spent themselves into crisis, they would not have needed a new pipeline.

If they had not spent themselves into crisis, they would not have had to use the river.

In fact, why did Detroit have to have a contract, and cancel service? Because Detroit spent itself into oblivion too. They had no money to be lenient towards Flint, because they have screwed themselves as well.

See you guys on the left, keep looking at all these consequences, and trying to blame Republicans for it, because you are children that blame shift.

When the reality is, all of this, never would have have happened if the left-wingers in these local governments, hadn't spent themselves into bankruptcy.

Actually the Water Dept is a separate entity. With a separate budget, they make money

Well, you finally said something that makes at least a modicum of sense.

 

[JQPublic1]

No, you are misreading something. Here is my source:

Michigan Truth Squad: Who approved switch to Flint River? State's answers draw fouls

Snyder said that Detroit, after being informed of the Flint council vote, sent a "letter of termination" of water service. Detroit sent a letter giving Flint one year on its existing contract, but that didn't mean Flint couldn't get water from Detroit after that date. In fact, there was a flurry of negotiations between Detroit and Flint to sign a new contract that would carry Flint through until it could connect to the under-construction pipeline. That new contract was going to cost Flint more money.

This distinction is important to note because merely stating that Flint received a "letter of termination" makes it sound as if a thirsty Flint had no choice but to stick a straw in the Flint River. Flint could have elected to sign a new contract with the the Detroit water system (in fact, Flint reconnected to Detroit water after the situation in the city became a full-fledged, hair-on-fire crisis). Flint disconnected from Detroit because it was cheaper to take water from the Flint River until the new pipeline was completed. Here's a letter from then-emergency manager Darnell Earley saying Flint was choosing to use Flint water instead of Detroit water.

Which brings us to the state's timeline statement: "June 2013: City of Flint decides to use the Flint River as a water source."

Flint officials didn't make that decision while under state emergency management. State-appointed emergency manager Ed Kurtz made that decision, which would have had to be approved by the state. Here's

You don't need a contract genius. There are cities that receive water from Detroit without a contract. Flint notified the Detroit water dept that they would be switching to their backup system which had been used before and was fine. The emergency manager wasn't responsible for not adding the proper chemical to the water. That's where the failure was

Duhh. Dummy if you are referring to the mention of "contract" highlighted in blue, that isn't from me. It is a quote directly from MLIVE. Mlive reporters are right on the scene. If you think they were mistaken, call 'em up and get them to post an apology. Good luck with that...dummy!

Again.... the problem is... why didn't they have the money to buy the water to begin with? Because they drove their city into the dirt.

If Flint had not spent itself into a crisis to start with, they would not have needed to find water cheaper than Detroit.

If they had not spent themselves into crisis, they would not have needed a new pipeline.

If they had not spent themselves into crisis, they would not have had to use the river.

In fact, why did Detroit have to have a contract, and cancel service? Because Detroit spent itself into oblivion too. They had no money to be lenient towards Flint, because they have screwed themselves as well.

See you guys on the left, keep looking at all these consequences, and trying to blame Republicans for it, because you are children that blame shift.

When the reality is, all of this, never would have have happened if the left-wingers in these local governments, hadn't spent themselves into bankruptcy.

Actually the Water Dept is a separate entity. With a separate budget, they make money

If that were true, the government wouldn't be able to make contracts on supplying water. Am I wrong? If water service was run as a private business, why would government be even talking about it?

Are you still in middle school? I am not overly fond of JROC but he never said the Flint Water services were a private business. He said the Water department is a separate entity. That is: a separate local government entity. I realize you are easily confused so I won't charge you for random interpretations this time.

 

[sealybobo]

People need to keep that automation smooth and running correctly, plus they need to make the parts and things for all of that.

And how long will it be before machines replicate and repair themselves? Some computers are powerful enough to do that now with proper programming.

But more on point. All it would take to run an entire automated operation is one or two technicians. Physical labor would become cheaper than it is now and millions would be out of work indefinitely; their jobs taken over by machines.

Maybe humans stop having more than 1 or 2 kids in the future? Maybe poor people stop having so many kids and eventually the human population cuts in half.

Sure for some it will be sad to not have kids but so what if they can't afford to have kids or if the economy doesn't need more people? Is having a kid a human right?

What will happen to the millions of rural Chinese men who will never have a wife, or even a girlfriend?
Due to sex-selective abortion, the gender ratio is so skewed that every year, a million more boys are born than girls. By 2020, the Chinese government estimates that there will be at least 30 million men of marriageable age that may be unable to find a spouse. What kind of social and economic effect will it have on China? Will it increase crime?

I imagine the "losers" in this marriage market are poor rural men. What do they think about the situation?

Funny these leftist don't want poor Americans to have kids, they'd rather ship them in from Mexico and central America. For some Reason foreign born babies are more deserving of being born, and having a chance at the American dream.

Id actually prefer our population cut in half.

So are you proposing genocide or something? Heh heh heh!

I suppose if the US population was halved overnight, all the money paid into entitlements by workers no longer with us would benefit those still living. But the clean up of all those dead bodies would be an almost insurmountable task.

And if the relatively few innovators among us perish in that holocaust, a gradual DEVOLUTION could occur that would make us vulnerable to invasion from more technological advanced countries with strong viable populations.

I'm not talking about genocide. Why does everyone go there? If poor people would stop having so many kids, our population would shrink in a couple/few generations. In fact it already is. Many young adults today are not having kids, having fewer kids or having kids later. If enough people are doing this, eventually the population will go down. Then guess what the government will do? They'll start giving tax incentives for people to have more kids, because they need more bodies apparently. I however think this planet would be much better with half the population we have now.

I think since my dad was a young man the population has doubled. That's scary! In one persons lifetime the population doubled??? That's fucked up. We can't keep going this way.

But stop suggesting I want to kill people. I just think poor people need to stop having so many kids. The funny thing is when the global recession hit, it wasn't poor people who stopped breeding. Oh no. They kept popping them out. It was middle class Americans, college educated Americans, ones with big student loans to pay off. People who want to buy a home and be able to retire at 65 who are smart enough to not have more kids than they can afford.

Bad news for older folks: Millennials are having fewer babies

On one level, lower birthrates might be worth celebrating. Perhaps today’s young women are behaving more “responsibly” by putting off their procreative desires, especially if they’re not fully ready to have children yet. One important reason that childbearing fell in the years following the Great Recession is that unmarried women had fewer kids. This factor was responsible for the vast majority of the decline in birthrates for young African American and Hispanic women. Given that children of single parents tend to experience higher rates of poverty, this trend seems like a good thing.

 

[Jroc]

No, you are misreading something. Here is my source:

Michigan Truth Squad: Who approved switch to Flint River? State's answers draw fouls

Snyder said that Detroit, after being informed of the Flint council vote, sent a "letter of termination" of water service. Detroit sent a letter giving Flint one year on its existing contract, but that didn't mean Flint couldn't get water from Detroit after that date. In fact, there was a flurry of negotiations between Detroit and Flint to sign a new contract that would carry Flint through until it could connect to the under-construction pipeline. That new contract was going to cost Flint more money.

This distinction is important to note because merely stating that Flint received a "letter of termination" makes it sound as if a thirsty Flint had no choice but to stick a straw in the Flint River. Flint could have elected to sign a new contract with the the Detroit water system (in fact, Flint reconnected to Detroit water after the situation in the city became a full-fledged, hair-on-fire crisis). Flint disconnected from Detroit because it was cheaper to take water from the Flint River until the new pipeline was completed. Here's a letter from then-emergency manager Darnell Earley saying Flint was choosing to use Flint water instead of Detroit water.

Which brings us to the state's timeline statement: "June 2013: City of Flint decides to use the Flint River as a water source."

Flint officials didn't make that decision while under state emergency management. State-appointed emergency manager Ed Kurtz made that decision, which would have had to be approved by the state. Here's

You don't need a contract genius. There are cities that receive water from Detroit without a contract. Flint notified the Detroit water dept that they would be switching to their backup system which had been used before and was fine. The emergency manager wasn't responsible for not adding the proper chemical to the water. That's where the failure was

Duhh. Dummy if you are referring to the mention of "contract" highlighted in blue, that isn't from me. It is a quote directly from MLIVE. Mlive reporters are right on the scene. If you think they were mistaken, call 'em up and get them to post an apology. Good luck with that...dummy!

Again.... the problem is... why didn't they have the money to buy the water to begin with? Because they drove their city into the dirt.

If Flint had not spent itself into a crisis to start with, they would not have needed to find water cheaper than Detroit.

If they had not spent themselves into crisis, they would not have needed a new pipeline.

If they had not spent themselves into crisis, they would not have had to use the river.

In fact, why did Detroit have to have a contract, and cancel service? Because Detroit spent itself into oblivion too. They had no money to be lenient towards Flint, because they have screwed themselves as well.

See you guys on the left, keep looking at all these consequences, and trying to blame Republicans for it, because you are children that blame shift.

When the reality is, all of this, never would have have happened if the left-wingers in these local governments, hadn't spent themselves into bankruptcy.

Actually the Water Dept is a separate entity. With a separate budget, they make money

If that were true, the government wouldn't be able to make contracts on supplying water. Am I wrong? If water service was run as a private business, why would government be even talking about it?

I never said it was privatized i said they are not contributing to the debt... They make make money

 

[sealybobo]

You don't need a contract genius. There are cities that receive water from Detroit without a contract. Flint notified the Detroit water dept that they would be switching to their backup system which had been used before and was fine. The emergency manager wasn't responsible for not adding the proper chemical to the water. That's where the failure was

Duhh. Dummy if you are referring to the mention of "contract" highlighted in blue, that isn't from me. It is a quote directly from MLIVE. Mlive reporters are right on the scene. If you think they were mistaken, call 'em up and get them to post an apology. Good luck with that...dummy!

Again.... the problem is... why didn't they have the money to buy the water to begin with? Because they drove their city into the dirt.

If Flint had not spent itself into a crisis to start with, they would not have needed to find water cheaper than Detroit.

If they had not spent themselves into crisis, they would not have needed a new pipeline.

If they had not spent themselves into crisis, they would not have had to use the river.

In fact, why did Detroit have to have a contract, and cancel service? Because Detroit spent itself into oblivion too. They had no money to be lenient towards Flint, because they have screwed themselves as well.

See you guys on the left, keep looking at all these consequences, and trying to blame Republicans for it, because you are children that blame shift.

When the reality is, all of this, never would have have happened if the left-wingers in these local governments, hadn't spent themselves into bankruptcy.

Actually the Water Dept is a separate entity. With a separate budget, they make money

If that were true, the government wouldn't be able to make contracts on supplying water. Am I wrong? If water service was run as a private business, why would government be even talking about it?

I never said it was privatized i said they are not contributing to the debt... They make make money

So not all government is bad?

 

[Jroc]

And how long will it be before machines replicate and repair themselves? Some computers are powerful enough to do that now with proper programming.

But more on point. All it would take to run an entire automated operation is one or two technicians. Physical labor would become cheaper than it is now and millions would be out of work indefinitely; their jobs taken over by machines.

Maybe humans stop having more than 1 or 2 kids in the future? Maybe poor people stop having so many kids and eventually the human population cuts in half.

Sure for some it will be sad to not have kids but so what if they can't afford to have kids or if the economy doesn't need more people? Is having a kid a human right?

What will happen to the millions of rural Chinese men who will never have a wife, or even a girlfriend?
Due to sex-selective abortion, the gender ratio is so skewed that every year, a million more boys are born than girls. By 2020, the Chinese government estimates that there will be at least 30 million men of marriageable age that may be unable to find a spouse. What kind of social and economic effect will it have on China? Will it increase crime?

I imagine the "losers" in this marriage market are poor rural men. What do they think about the situation?

Funny these leftist don't want poor Americans to have kids, they'd rather ship them in from Mexico and central America. For some Reason foreign born babies are more deserving of being born, and having a chance at the American dream.

Id actually prefer our population cut in half.

Why's that? more for you? Who's gonna pay for your social security? Why do you want foreign children here and american kids slaughtered through abortion?

I don't want them, the beast you serve does. The machine. Corporations run everything. And that's gonna benefit you tiny Tim?

Where you been boy?

The Office of Refugee Resettlement noted a “surge” in unaccompanied alien children in its year-end report last week, pointing out that 24,668 foreign minors in the country illegally were placed in the care of a federal de facto baby-sitting service because no parents were around to care for them

The Dream Act By Executive Order Draws In New Wave Of Illegal Immigrants
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[Jroc]

Duhh. Dummy if you are referring to the mention of "contract" highlighted in blue, that isn't from me. It is a quote directly from MLIVE. Mlive reporters are right on the scene. If you think they were mistaken, call 'em up and get them to post an apology. Good luck with that...dummy!

Again.... the problem is... why didn't they have the money to buy the water to begin with? Because they drove their city into the dirt.

If Flint had not spent itself into a crisis to start with, they would not have needed to find water cheaper than Detroit.

If they had not spent themselves into crisis, they would not have needed a new pipeline.

If they had not spent themselves into crisis, they would not have had to use the river.

In fact, why did Detroit have to have a contract, and cancel service? Because Detroit spent itself into oblivion too. They had no money to be lenient towards Flint, because they have screwed themselves as well.

See you guys on the left, keep looking at all these consequences, and trying to blame Republicans for it, because you are children that blame shift.

When the reality is, all of this, never would have have happened if the left-wingers in these local governments, hadn't spent themselves into bankruptcy.

Actually the Water Dept is a separate entity. With a separate budget, they make money

If that were true, the government wouldn't be able to make contracts on supplying water. Am I wrong? If water service was run as a private business, why would government be even talking about it?

I never said it was privatized i said they are not contributing to the debt... They make make money

So not all government is bad?

the military is not bad, neither is providing clean drinking water. Government has a limited role. even though you leftist want tyranny

 

[Jroc]

And how long will it be before machines replicate and repair themselves? Some computers are powerful enough to do that now with proper programming.

But more on point. All it would take to run an entire automated operation is one or two technicians. Physical labor would become cheaper than it is now and millions would be out of work indefinitely; their jobs taken over by machines.

Maybe humans stop having more than 1 or 2 kids in the future? Maybe poor people stop having so many kids and eventually the human population cuts in half.

Sure for some it will be sad to not have kids but so what if they can't afford to have kids or if the economy doesn't need more people? Is having a kid a human right?

What will happen to the millions of rural Chinese men who will never have a wife, or even a girlfriend?
Due to sex-selective abortion, the gender ratio is so skewed that every year, a million more boys are born than girls. By 2020, the Chinese government estimates that there will be at least 30 million men of marriageable age that may be unable to find a spouse. What kind of social and economic effect will it have on China? Will it increase crime?

I imagine the "losers" in this marriage market are poor rural men. What do they think about the situation?

Funny these leftist don't want poor Americans to have kids, they'd rather ship them in from Mexico and central America. For some Reason foreign born babies are more deserving of being born, and having a chance at the American dream.

Id actually prefer our population cut in half.

So are you proposing genocide or something? Heh heh heh!

I suppose if the US population was halved overnight, all the money paid into entitlements by workers no longer with us would benefit those still living. But the clean up of all those dead bodies would be an almost insurmountable task.

And if the relatively few innovators among us perish in that holocaust, a gradual DEVOLUTION could occur that would make us vulnerable to invasion from more technological advanced countries with strong viable populations.

I'm not talking about genocide. Why does everyone go there? If poor people would stop having so many kids, our population would shrink in a couple/few generations. In fact it already is. Many young adults today are not having kids, having fewer kids or having kids later. If enough people are doing this, eventually the population will go down. Then guess what the government will do? They'll start giving tax incentives for people to have more kids, because they need more bodies apparently. I however think this planet would be much better with half the population we have now.

I think since my dad was a young man the population has doubled. That's scary! In one persons lifetime the population doubled??? That's fucked up. We can't keep going this way.

But stop suggesting I want to kill people. I just think poor people need to stop having so many kids. The funny thing is when the global recession hit, it wasn't poor people who stopped breeding. Oh no. They kept popping them out. It was middle class Americans, college educated Americans, ones with big student loans to pay off. People who want to buy a home and be able to retire at 65 who are smart enough to not have more kids than they can afford.

Bad news for older folks: Millennials are having fewer babies

On one level, lower birthrates might be worth celebrating. Perhaps today’s young women are behaving more “responsibly” by putting off their procreative desires, especially if they’re not fully ready to have children yet. One important reason that childbearing fell in the years following the Great Recession is that unmarried women had fewer kids. This factor was responsible for the vast majority of the decline in birthrates for young African American and Hispanic women. Given that children of single parents tend to experience higher rates of poverty, this trend seems like a good thing.

leftist

If it comes down to the numbers the entire world’s population can fit in Texas. This has been said many times and when it comes down to basic math, it is true. Texas is 268,581 Square miles, if some amazing engineer were to design the father of all complexes; basically a China housing unit on steroids is the only thing that would work. The building would cover the entire state of Texas. Rivers, ponds, and creeks included; literally every square inch of Texas would be engulfed in this building. There would be one thousand square feet per person.

The Entire World Population can Sink into the State of Texas

 

[sealybobo]

Again.... the problem is... why didn't they have the money to buy the water to begin with? Because they drove their city into the dirt.

If Flint had not spent itself into a crisis to start with, they would not have needed to find water cheaper than Detroit.

If they had not spent themselves into crisis, they would not have needed a new pipeline.

If they had not spent themselves into crisis, they would not have had to use the river.

In fact, why did Detroit have to have a contract, and cancel service? Because Detroit spent itself into oblivion too. They had no money to be lenient towards Flint, because they have screwed themselves as well.

See you guys on the left, keep looking at all these consequences, and trying to blame Republicans for it, because you are children that blame shift.

When the reality is, all of this, never would have have happened if the left-wingers in these local governments, hadn't spent themselves into bankruptcy.

Actually the Water Dept is a separate entity. With a separate budget, they make money

If that were true, the government wouldn't be able to make contracts on supplying water. Am I wrong? If water service was run as a private business, why would government be even talking about it?

I never said it was privatized i said they are not contributing to the debt... They make make money

So not all government is bad?

the military is not bad, neither is providing clean drinking water. Government has a limited role. even though you leftist want tyranny

That's funny because the military is where we spend most of our money. You hate the debt but you love what we go into debt for. It's like you like your car but don't want to make your car payment.

Yea that's what we want you dumb shit. Tyranny!!!! Meet me in front of the Joe Louis fist I'll shove it up your dumb ass old man. LOL.

Actually, social security, medicare and public schools are pretty good too. I can tell by looking and talking to you that without social security you would never be able to retire. I would bet you anything you have zero savings and you are probably in debt. So funny when anti government ***** like you talk a good game but without ss you aren't saving shit. So don't tell us that you would save MORE on your own without ss. That's a ******* lie. Instead we would have to take care of your sorry ass when you get too old to work in goobers garage.

You do realize the reason we socialize things is to solve a problem, right? Or because the private sector wasn't doing a good job at it so government had to step in? Otherwise government wouldn't need to step in. The free market would take care of everything. But us liberals know that's a joke. Only you brainwashed right wingers think in talking points.

 

[sealybobo]

Maybe humans stop having more than 1 or 2 kids in the future? Maybe poor people stop having so many kids and eventually the human population cuts in half.

Sure for some it will be sad to not have kids but so what if they can't afford to have kids or if the economy doesn't need more people? Is having a kid a human right?

What will happen to the millions of rural Chinese men who will never have a wife, or even a girlfriend?
Due to sex-selective abortion, the gender ratio is so skewed that every year, a million more boys are born than girls. By 2020, the Chinese government estimates that there will be at least 30 million men of marriageable age that may be unable to find a spouse. What kind of social and economic effect will it have on China? Will it increase crime?

I imagine the "losers" in this marriage market are poor rural men. What do they think about the situation?

Funny these leftist don't want poor Americans to have kids, they'd rather ship them in from Mexico and central America. For some Reason foreign born babies are more deserving of being born, and having a chance at the American dream.

Id actually prefer our population cut in half.

So are you proposing genocide or something? Heh heh heh!

I suppose if the US population was halved overnight, all the money paid into entitlements by workers no longer with us would benefit those still living. But the clean up of all those dead bodies would be an almost insurmountable task.

And if the relatively few innovators among us perish in that holocaust, a gradual DEVOLUTION could occur that would make us vulnerable to invasion from more technological advanced countries with strong viable populations.

I'm not talking about genocide. Why does everyone go there? If poor people would stop having so many kids, our population would shrink in a couple/few generations. In fact it already is. Many young adults today are not having kids, having fewer kids or having kids later. If enough people are doing this, eventually the population will go down. Then guess what the government will do? They'll start giving tax incentives for people to have more kids, because they need more bodies apparently. I however think this planet would be much better with half the population we have now.

I think since my dad was a young man the population has doubled. That's scary! In one persons lifetime the population doubled??? That's fucked up. We can't keep going this way.

But stop suggesting I want to kill people. I just think poor people need to stop having so many kids. The funny thing is when the global recession hit, it wasn't poor people who stopped breeding. Oh no. They kept popping them out. It was middle class Americans, college educated Americans, ones with big student loans to pay off. People who want to buy a home and be able to retire at 65 who are smart enough to not have more kids than they can afford.

Bad news for older folks: Millennials are having fewer babies

On one level, lower birthrates might be worth celebrating. Perhaps today’s young women are behaving more “responsibly” by putting off their procreative desires, especially if they’re not fully ready to have children yet. One important reason that childbearing fell in the years following the Great Recession is that unmarried women had fewer kids. This factor was responsible for the vast majority of the decline in birthrates for young African American and Hispanic women. Given that children of single parents tend to experience higher rates of poverty, this trend seems like a good thing.

leftist

If it comes down to the numbers the entire world’s population can fit in Texas. This has been said many times and when it comes down to basic math, it is true. Texas is 268,581 Square miles, if some amazing engineer were to design the father of all complexes; basically a China housing unit on steroids is the only thing that would work. The building would cover the entire state of Texas. Rivers, ponds, and creeks included; literally every square inch of Texas would be engulfed in this building. There would be one thousand square feet per person.

The Entire World Population can Sink into the State of Texas

This punk ass kid comes over to my house all the time talking bad about Obama and liberals. The other day he asked me if I wanted to buy his foodstamps. He'd pay me $60 in foodstamps if I'd give him $30 cash. What makes me sick is all you middle class Republicans are just like him. You are all voting against yourselves. And you are all the biggest hypocrites. You say you don't need government but look deep enough and all of you have sucked on Uncle Sams tits at one time or another. You all make me sick.

 

[peach174]

Where has anyone said no government or don't need government?

The majority of us are saying we want a more efficiently run government.