The era of white guilt wokeness, George Floyd and BLM…is now the time to launch a third party…The Black Party?

[john doe 101]

Are you implying that you wouldn’t support the Black Party should one emerge?

Why would I? I dont even support the Democrats most of the time.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Why would I? I dont even support the Democrats most of the time.

Well then, you could be a racist?

 

[john doe 101]

Well then, you could be a racist?

How so?

 

[Batcat]

More right wing lies.

Well then just continue to vote for your wonderful democrats and keep complaining about how nothing ever improves. Blame it all on those terrible right wing white supremacists. Ignore the simple fact that if whites were as racist as you assume, Obama would never have been elected once let alone twice.

Don’t be surprised if in the next ten years nothing much has changed. I don’t hear you talking about how much Obama did for the black community.

Let’s talk about just one aspect of many on how the black community is being hurt by current democrat policies.

Today Biden has opened up the Mexican border and a wave of illegal aliens are flowing into our nation. Eventually these people will find jobs and chances are will take those jobs from blacks. Your Democratic Party has sold you out and you don’t seem to even realize it. The people who run the Democratic Party are likely laughing at your loyalty to the Party And the fact you will vote for democrats no matter how much they mistreat you.

Politics; Systemic Racism Immigration Style.

In addition, Biden’s across-the-board immigration refit will provide a path to U.S. citizenship for the estimated 15 million people, etc.

thyblackman.com

***snip***

The present administration has reportedly given new guidance to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) that will lead to fewer arrests and deportations for crimes including driving under the influence, tax fraud, assault, drug offenses and solicitation. This policy change would mean ICE agents will no longer seek deportations for immigrants convicted or charged with a felony.

In addition, Biden’s across-the-board immigration refit will provide a path to U.S. citizenship for the estimated 15 million people presently in the United States illegally and soften Trump era asylum rules. If these changes are put in place, they will have a “disproportionately negative effect on the wages and employment levels of blacks, particularly black males,” as Peter Kirsanow noted during his presentation to the Senate Subcommittee on Immigration March 16, 2016. The research of economist Gordon Hanson demonstrates that illegal immigration represents around 40 percent of the 18-percentage point decay in black employment rates from 1960-2000. One reason for this is just like most illegal immigrants, blacks typically are disproportionately likely to be low-skilled wage laborers who frequently compete for the same jobs. Consequently, this incessant surplus of low-skilled illegal immigrant labor, reduces wages for both populations.

Once there was a time in the U.S. when more than 80 percent of all meatpacking jobs in states like Illinois were held blacks. Those days are long gone. Many will assert that illegal immigrants are doing jobs that most Americans will not do. However, the record states otherwise. Days after an ICE raid lead to the arrest of 680 illegal immigrants at seven Mississippi chicken processing plants, the jobs were quickly taken by most blacks around the area who had previously been replaced from the same jobs because illegals accepted lower wages.

***snip***

I do not find it unreasonable to consider the economic, public safety and public health issues primary before implementing immigration policy just to do something or stick a finger in Trump’s eye. This is just dumb. I have nothing against legal immigration, but I am an infectious disease scientist by training and the safety and health of U.S. citizens should be paramount. I have lived in Nigeria, Senegal and South Africa for example two years plus in each. Moreover, I have been to scores of other tropical nations for work and travel. Each time I do, I must have a record of my immunizations. What is wrong or bigoted about wanting the same for my country? For all the talk of systemic racism, I never saw it as I do now through these changes in immigration policy. Blacks are now worthless, and our interest are secondary to progressive’s new minority angels – illegal immigrants. …emphasis added

 

[Batcat]

Beyonce?

I don’t know enough about her to comment on if she could be part of the leadership of a new political party.

 

[john doe 101]

Well then just continue to vote for your wonderful democrats and keep complaining about how nothing ever improves. Blame it all on those terrible right wing white supremacists. Ignore the simple fact that if whites were as racist as you assume, Obama would never have been elected once let alone twice.

Don’t be surprised if in the next ten years nothing much has changed. I don’t hear you talking about how much Obama did for the black community.

Let’s talk about just one aspect of many on how the black community is being hurt by current democrat policies.

Today Biden has opened up the Mexican border and a wave of illegal aliens are flowing into our nation. Eventually these people will find jobs and chances are will take those jobs from blacks. Your Democratic Party has sold you out and you don’t seem to even realize it. The people who run the Democratic Party are likely laughing at your loyalty to the Party And the fact you will vote for democrats no matter how much they mistreat you.

Politics; Systemic Racism Immigration Style.

In addition, Biden’s across-the-board immigration refit will provide a path to U.S. citizenship for the estimated 15 million people, etc.

thyblackman.com

***snip***

The present administration has reportedly given new guidance to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) that will lead to fewer arrests and deportations for crimes including driving under the influence, tax fraud, assault, drug offenses and solicitation. This policy change would mean ICE agents will no longer seek deportations for immigrants convicted or charged with a felony.

In addition, Biden’s across-the-board immigration refit will provide a path to U.S. citizenship for the estimated 15 million people presently in the United States illegally and soften Trump era asylum rules. If these changes are put in place, they will have a “disproportionately negative effect on the wages and employment levels of blacks, particularly black males,” as Peter Kirsanow noted during his presentation to the Senate Subcommittee on Immigration March 16, 2016. The research of economist Gordon Hanson demonstrates that illegal immigration represents around 40 percent of the 18-percentage point decay in black employment rates from 1960-2000. One reason for this is just like most illegal immigrants, blacks typically are disproportionately likely to be low-skilled wage laborers who frequently compete for the same jobs. Consequently, this incessant surplus of low-skilled illegal immigrant labor, reduces wages for both populations.

Once there was a time in the U.S. when more than 80 percent of all meatpacking jobs in states like Illinois were held blacks. Those days are long gone. Many will assert that illegal immigrants are doing jobs that most Americans will not do. However, the record states otherwise. Days after an ICE raid lead to the arrest of 680 illegal immigrants at seven Mississippi chicken processing plants, the jobs were quickly taken by most blacks around the area who had previously been replaced from the same jobs because illegals accepted lower wages.

***snip***

I do not find it unreasonable to consider the economic, public safety and public health issues primary before implementing immigration policy just to do something or stick a finger in Trump’s eye. This is just dumb. I have nothing against legal immigration, but I am an infectious disease scientist by training and the safety and health of U.S. citizens should be paramount. I have lived in Nigeria, Senegal and South Africa for example two years plus in each. Moreover, I have been to scores of other tropical nations for work and travel. Each time I do, I must have a record of my immunizations. What is wrong or bigoted about wanting the same for my country? For all the talk of systemic racism, I never saw it as I do now through these changes in immigration policy. Blacks are now worthless, and our interest are secondary to progressive’s new minority angels – illegal immigrants. …emphasis added

Why do you assume black people can only get jobs that non English speaking illegals can get?

 

[Batcat]

That would only work if our government operated like say Germany's does. A third party has never been viable in the US.

The fact that a third Party has never been viable does not mean it never will be. Ross Perot’s Reform Party came close to being viable and won 19% of the popular vote in 1992. The Rrform Party likely caused Bush the elder to lose to Clinton.

Ross Perot, Billionaire Who Won 19 Percent of Popular Vote in '92, Is Dead - The New American

Henry Ross Perot, the outspoken Texan who pulled off one of the most impressive independent campaigns in history, died Tuesday after a five-month struggle with leukemia. by Luis Miguel

thenewamerican.com

 

[Batcat]

Why do you assume black people can only get jobs that non English speaking illegals can get?

I said, “Eventually these people will find jobs and chances are will take those jobs from blacks.”

 

[john doe 101]

I said, “Eventually these people will find jobs and chances are will take those jobs from blacks.”

Exactly. You're assuming only blacks work jobs an illegal would take.

Nice of you to stand up for black people though, although in a backhanded way. But I guess the bigger question here is what will they say about all your comments at your next klan meeting next week?

 

[HappyJoy]

They haven’t incentivized illegals with sanctuary cities, free shit, free healthcare and by refusing to allow iCE to do their job?

By refusing to go along with ICE. We need to open up our immigration because like it or not we need the labor force and I'd prefer they pay taxes.

Sure we do….look at the exit polls in FL where good productive brown people reside

So now you're in favor of asylum.

Republicans don’t understand the Declaration Of Independence and American sovereignty?
Can you explain it to us please?

Do you think people born in the United States have citizenship?

 

[Kondor3]

I don't see any point in Blacks splitting the Democratic Party to head their own way...

They're only 12% of the overall US population...

Without the Beaners and Wiggers and Socialists and Indies they'd remain at the bottom of the barrel perpetually and never come up for air...

 

[Batcat]

Exactly. You're assuming only blacks work jobs an illegal would take.

Nice of you to stand up for black people though, although in a backhanded way. But I guess the bigger question here is what will they say about all your comments at your next klan meeting next week?

I have been standing up for black people all my life. In the Air Force in Mississippi in the 1960s I was friends with several black airmen which pissed off the white southern airmen.

My family took in a black teenager whose family had kicked him out, helped him straighten his life out and got him a job. I drove him 18 miles everyday to that job until he saved enough money to buy a car. In the small southern town I recently moved from we had more black friends than white.

Liberals are trying their best to paint conservatives as white supremacists and/or KKK members. As usual that is just a liberal lie.

 

[Curried Goats]

I have been standing up for black people all my life. In the Air Force in Mississippi in the 1960s I was friends with several black airmen which pissed off the white southern airmen.

My family took in a black teenager whose family had kicked him out, helped him straighten his life out and got him a job. I drove him 18 miles everyday to that job until he saved enough money to buy a car. In the small southern town I recently moved from we had more black friends than white.

Liberals are trying their best to paint conservatives as white supremacists and/or KKK members. As usual that is just a liberal lie.

It certainly isn't a lie that black voters avoid the Republican party like it has the clap.

 

[Batcat]

It certainly isn't a lie that black voters avoid the Republican party like it has the clap.

Republicans normally do not try hard to get the black vote. Trump was an exception but Trump isn’t really a republican. If the establishment republicans regain control of the Republican Party then if I was black I probably wouldn’t vote for republicans either.

But the Democratic Party takes the black vote for granted and does little to really earn that vote. Now the Democratic Party is trying to woo the illegal immigrants and by doing so throw black voters under the bus. Illegals will eventually take jobs away from lower educated blacks and whites.

That’s why I feel the blacks need to start their own Party. Don’t let white democrats near it and stay away from the Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson type of politicians. Pick some wise and honest leaders. After a few elections the new Black Party will have the power to force both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party in Congress to bargain to gain the necessary support form the new Black Party to advance their agendas.

Going out in the streets to riot, loot and burn will only cause more racism and will prove less productive thatn forming a new Black political Party. It seems that the Democratic Party is more interested in dividing our nation into separate tribes that hate each other rather than unite us as one people in one great nation.

I may be a white male but I want EVERY American citizen to have an equal chance to succeed. I want EVERY American child to receive a top notch education and to be able to read, write, do math and understand history and civics when they graduate high school.

I am in flavor of legal immigration but not illegal immigration. I realize our immigration laws are way out of date and need to be overhauled. I also realize that both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party are not really interested in fixing our immigration laws (for different reasons). The democrats see illegal voters as future democrats and the republicans see illegals as a way of keeping wages down to increase profits for the corporations. Plus I suspect some elected officials and agencies may be profiting from the importation of illegal drugs across the Mexican border. (Remember the allegations of CIA involvement in Contra cocaine trafficking.)

We are all part of this nation and if we all have an equal chance to succeed and take advantage of that opportunity we will continue to be the greatest nation in the world. Skin color and gender should not be considered important factors for success. We should all have the opportunity to succeed but of course we have to earn that success through effort not privilege.

Plus perhaps by the time the next century rolls around we will be so interracially mixed that the majority of people will be some combination of white, black, Hispanic and Asian. Our nation was once known as the great mixing pot of the world and that was why we rose to where we are today. A mixture of races brings out the best of all.

I do know this. We are near a breakup of our nation and if that happens there is a damn good chance the Chinese will take over the world in a decade or two. We best get serious about correcting our problems and those we elect had better stop pouring gasoline on the smoldering fire of rebellion if we hope to survive.

 

[Batcat]

It certainly isn't a lie that black voters avoid the Republican party like it has the clap.

True. The problem is the Democratic Party takes black voters for granted and makes them promises it never intends to keep.

It’s long past time for black voters to wake up and move on. The trouble is the Republican Party isn’t much better. So perhaps the best idea is to form the new Black Party.

However in order for the new Black Party to work it is necessary to find leaders who are not corrupt or just simply race hustlers. That could be a challenge. Still I believe there are plenty of well qualified blacks available. However I may have more faith in the blacks than they have in themselves.

 

[Curried Goats]

Republicans normally do not try hard to get the black vote. Trump was an exception but Trump isn’t really a republican. If the establishment republicans regain control of the Republican Party then if I was black I probably wouldn’t vote for republicans either.

Republicans not only don't try to get the black vote, they actively try to antagonize black voters. Trump was no different. He got around the same percentage of the black vote as every other Republican and less than Nixon, Reagan and Dole.

But the Democratic Party takes the black vote for granted and does little to really earn that vote. Now the Democratic Party is trying to woo the illegal immigrants and by doing so throw black voters under the bus. Illegals will eventually take jobs away from lower educated blacks and whites.

Illegals don't take jobs from lower educated blacks and whites. Before the pandemic unemployment was at its lowest point ever. When our economy is humming there are plenty of jobs available for anyone who wants one.

That’s why I feel the blacks need to start their own Party. Don’t let white democrats near it and stay away from the Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson type of politicians. Pick some wise and honest leaders. After a few elections the new Black Party will have the power to force both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party in Congress to bargain to gain the necessary support form the new Black Party to advance their agendas.

That's a stupid idea strategically so I definitely understand why a moron like you would suggest it, but no thank you. I think we'll just continue to take over the Democratic Party, the former Party of Confederates and segregationists and really complete their cucking by making it our own.

Going out in the streets to riot, loot and burn will only cause more racism and will prove less productive thatn forming a new Black political Party. It seems that the Democratic Party is more interested in dividing our nation into separate tribes that hate each other rather than unite us as one people in one great nation.

Again, I can see why you'd think this but again, you're a moron. BLM protests were so effective that they forced corporations to bend the knee and take their side over racist white protesters and their counter protests of white lives matter and blue lives matter (which have completely disappeared because they got molly whopped in embarrassing fashion) and they inspired BLM protests all over the world. White people in Australia and Sweden were staging BLM protests last summer, that's how effective they were. Contrast that to the racist white riot from the Cucks at the Capitol and you can see what not to do to gain public support. Pretty much everyone came out to demonize and disavow them.

I may be a white male but I want EVERY American citizen to have an equal chance to succeed. I want EVERY American child to receive a top notch education and to be able to read, write, do math and understand history and civics when they graduate high school.

Sure you do. You just don't want to address the history of racism and discrimination that has lead to these disparities of outcomes.

I am in flavor of legal immigration but not illegal immigration. I realize our immigration laws are way out of date and need to be overhauled. I also realize that both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party are not really interested in fixing our immigration laws (for different reasons). The democrats see illegal voters as future democrats and the republicans see illegals as a way of keeping wages down to increase profits for the corporations. Plus I suspect some elected officials and agencies may be profiting from the importation of illegal drugs across the Mexican border. (Remember the allegations of CIA involvement in Contra cocaine trafficking.)

I'm in favor of legal immigration too, I just think all immigrants should be beneficiaries of the same sort of wet foot dry foot policy Cuban immigrants enjoyed for so long.

We are all part of this nation and if we all have an equal chance to succeed and take advantage of that opportunity we will continue to be the greatest nation in the world. Skin color and gender should not be considered important factors for success. We should all have the opportunity to succeed but of course we have to earn that success through effort not privilege.

Great, so help us write policy to address the historical privilege enjoyed by whites.

Plus perhaps by the time the next century rolls around we will be so interracially mixed that the majority of people will be some combination of white, black, Hispanic and Asian. Our nation was once known as the great mixing pot of the world and that was why we rose to where we are today. A mixture of races brings out the best of all.

As a mixed race person myself I agree. The more black and brown voters the more likely we can pass policies that really address historic and systemic racism.

I do know this. We are near a breakup of our nation and if that happens there is a damn good chance the Chinese will take over the world in a decade or two. We best get serious about correcting our problems and those we elect had better stop pouring gasoline on the smoldering fire of rebellion if we hope to survive.

Lol. No we are not near a break up. Angry racist whites are lashing out but in the end they will bend the knee because they will have no choice. I'm not worried about those cowards and cucks.

True. The problem is the Democratic Party takes black voters for granted and makes them promises it never intends to keep.

Moderate Democrats, sure, that's a reason for a Progressive take over.

It’s long past time for black voters to wake up and move on. The trouble is the Republican Party isn’t much better. So perhaps the best idea is to form the new Black Party.

Still a monumentally stupid idea as far as strategy goes, it's brave of you to fully embrace that stupid as your own. Lol.

However in order for the new Black Party to work it is necessary to find leaders who are not corrupt or just simply race hustlers. That could be a challenge. Still I believe there are plenty of well qualified blacks available. However I may have more faith in the blacks than they have in themselves.

Lol. Do you? Or are you just a sad cucked racist so ashamed of your true feelings that you come here and pretend, poorly, because you know your true feelings are non starters? Lol. This is why I don't see any reason to worry about you clowns. You're such cowards you can't even be your real selves when you're anonymous and online. Grow some balls you cucks and get back to me, maybe then I'll think your useful for anything other than pointing and laughing at.

 

[Batcat]

Republicans not only don't try to get the black vote, they actively try to antagonize black voters. Trump was no different. He got around the same percentage of the black vote as every other Republican and less than Nixon, Reagan and Dole.

Illegals don't take jobs from lower educated blacks and whites. Before the pandemic unemployment was at its lowest point ever. When our economy is humming there are plenty of jobs available for anyone who wants one.

That's a stupid idea strategically so I definitely understand why a moron like you would suggest it, but no thank you. I think we'll just continue to take over the Democratic Party, the former Party of Confederates and segregationists and really complete their cucking by making it our own.

Again, I can see why you'd think this but again, you're a moron. BLM protests were so effective that they forced corporations to bend the knee and take their side over racist white protesters and their counter protests of white lives matter and blue lives matter (which have completely disappeared because they got molly whopped in embarrassing fashion) and they inspired BLM protests all over the world. White people in Australia and Sweden were staging BLM protests last summer, that's how effective they were. Contrast that to the racist white riot from the Cucks at the Capitol and you can see what not to do to gain public support. Pretty much everyone came out to demonize and disavow them.

Sure you do. You just don't want to address the history of racism and discrimination that has lead to these disparities of outcomes.

I'm in favor of legal immigration too, I just think all immigrants should be beneficiaries of the same sort of wet foot dry foot policy Cuban immigrants enjoyed for so long.

Great, so help us write policy to address the historical privilege enjoyed by whites.

As a mixed race person myself I agree. The more black and brown voters the more likely we can pass policies that really address historic and systemic racism.

Lol. No we are not near a break up. Angry racist whites are lashing out but in the end they will bend the knee because they will have no choice. I'm not worried about those cowards and cucks.

Moderate Democrats, sure, that's a reason for a Progressive take over.

Still a monumentally stupid idea as far as strategy goes, it's brave of you to fully embrace that stupid as your own. Lol.

Lol. Do you? Or are you just a sad cucked racist so ashamed of your true feelings that you come here and pretend, poorly, because you know your true feelings are non starters? Lol. This is why I don't see any reason to worry about you clowns. You're such cowards you can't even be your real selves when you're anonymous and online. Grow some balls you cucks and get back to me, maybe then I'll think your useful for anything other than pointing and laughing at.

You spent a lot of time and effort replying to me but rather than have a polite discussion you decided it was necessary to insult and ridicule me.

Why should I even waste my time reading your post? Since I can’t come up with a good reason I will not even bother.

Have a nice day.



Truly intelligent people don’t insult others unless insulted first.

 

[lennypartiv]

True. The problem is the Democratic Party takes black voters for granted and makes them promises it never intends to keep.

Hopefully someday black voters wake up and realize they should be voting Republican.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Hopefully someday black voters wake up and realize they should be voting Republican.

They value their free shit. The GOP would have to dangle the free shit carrot.

 

[Lisa558]

True. The problem is the Democratic Party takes black voters for granted and makes them promises it never intends to keep.

It’s long past time for black voters to wake up and move on. The trouble is the Republican Party isn’t much better. So perhaps the best idea is to form the new Black Party.

However in order for the new Black Party to work it is necessary to find leaders who are not corrupt or just simply race hustlers. That could be a challenge. Still I believe there are plenty of well qualified blacks available. However I may have more faith in the blacks than they have in themselves.

Question: OK, so we have a Black Party, and he wins the presidency, and members of congress running as Black Party candidates (which would be the antisemitic Congressional Black Caucus members) also win both chambers.

Does that mean all legislation and policies will be devised to benefit blacks, and push the interests of whites, Asians, Jews, etc., away? That means we could have legislation like so:

1) All black families will receive a $25,000 grant for a house down payment, with the money coming from a special White Tax line on the 1040.

2) Affirmative action will be enhanced even further, so that 50% of the entering class will black, thus limiting options for whites.

3) There will be two systems of bail, depending on race. Whites suspecting of killing in self-defense will have a $2 million bail; and blacks, even ones with long criminal records, will have bail at $1000.

SO…..maybe having a Black Party isn’t such a good idea.