The discovery of a Philistine cemetery in Israel that was there centuries before Christ

[louie888]

Phillistine cemetery found in Israel?

No problem.

Move the graves to suburban Tyre.

Hezbollah can supply the honor guard.

Fantastic bait, for a concentrated and surgical IDF airstrike.

Great fun.

You are actually better than israel's other shills as you have no problem admitting that this is about ethnic cleansing.

 

[Kondor3]

Phillistine cemetery found in Israel?

No problem.

Move the graves to suburban Tyre.

Hezbollah can supply the honor guard.

Fantastic bait, for a concentrated and surgical IDF airstrike.

Great fun.

You are actually better than israel's other shills as you have no problem admitting that this is about ethnic cleansing.

Moving graves is 'ethnic cleansing'? You're hallucinating.

 

[aris2chat]

>>
The Centrality of the Temple

The Temple of the Jews was a famous building, although it was not one of the Seven Wonders of the ancient world. According to Greek and Roman sources, it definitely was located in Jerusalem, a city founded and inhabited by Jews. While the narratives noted above feature Moses as the founder of the Temple, three relatively obscure sources of the second century BCE link the Temple to King Solomon and point out his association with King Hiram of Tyre, who assisted in its construction. These sources are brief and contain no historical background or material on the Jews.<<

>> In the text preserved by Diodorus, Hecataeus mentions the priests and their duties in the Temple and even describes a worship service and sacrifice.[31] Similarly, the first century Roman historian Livy remarks that the Jews do not state "to which deity pertains the temple at Jerusalem, nor is any image found there, since they do not think the God partakes of any figure."

In the same vein, Tacitus reports that "there were no representations of the gods within, but ... the place was empty and the secret shrine contained nothing" and "only a Jew may approach its doors, and that all save the priests were forbidden to cross its threshold." Cassius Dio (c.200 CE) recalls that the Jews "never had any statue of him [the deity] even in Jerusalem itself." The latter states that their temple "was extremely large and beautiful, except in so far as it was open and roofless."

Hecataeus, Livy, and Cassius Dio explain the absence of representation as part of Jewish "otherness" in a factual manner. <<

>>Jerusalem and the Temple also appear as the site of several major historical events, mainly invasions of Greek monarchs and Roman generals. We have seen the significance of Antiochus IV Ephiphanes' entry into Jerusalem and his despoliation of the Temple which served as the pretext for anti-Jewish descriptions of the interior of the sanctuary, distortions of Judaism and slander of the Jews. <<

>>It is noteworthy that an earlier capture of Jerusalem by the Greek-Egyptian King Ptolemy, son of Lagus, provided an opportunity for the obscure Agatharchides of Cnidus (second century BCE) to remark about the fact that "the people known as Jews, who inhabited the most strongly fortified of cities, called by the natives Jerusalem" lost their city because they would not defend it on the Sabbath.<<

>>
Greeks and Romans displayed a keen interest in their own surroundings, distant lands, natural phenomena, and landmarks, among them Jerusalem. Some of the descriptions of Jerusalem precede details about the Temple and Judaism and others occur within the context of historical events, such as the siege of Titus in 70 CE. Generally speaking, Jerusalem appears as a strongly fortified city with a temple which is difficult to capture. A few writers note that it has sources of water and several authors provide measurements of its area. Despite the tendency in the ancient world to exaggerate figures, it is clear that Jerusalem was relatively large and populous.

The selection by Hecataeus, cited in Against Apion, describes the city as follows: "The Jews have ... only one fortified city, which has a circumference of about fifty stades and some hundred and twenty thousand inhabitants; they call it Jerusalem. Nearly in the centre of the city stands a stone wall, enclosing an area about five plethora long and a hundred cubits broad, approached by a pair of gates." He then proceeds to describe the Temple.<<

Even the quran tells of Solomon building the temple

 

[aris2chat]

>>[An. 536.] In the first year of the reign of Cyrus; which was the seventieth from the day that our people were removed out of their own land into Babylon; (2) God commiserated the captivity and calamity of these poor people: according as he had foretold to them by Jeremiah the Prophet, before the destruction of the city; that after they had served Nebuchadnezzar, and his posterity; and after they had undergone that servitude seventy years, he would restore them again to the land of their fathers; and they should build their temple, and enjoy their ancient prosperity. And these things God did afford them. For he stirred up the mind of Cyrus, and made him write thus throughout all Asia: “Thus saith Cyrus the King: since God Almighty hath appointed me to be King of the habitable earth, I believe that He is that God, which the nation of the Israelites worship. For indeed he foretold my name by the Prophets, and that I should build him an house at Jerusalem, in the countrey of Judea.”

God commiserated the captivity and calamity of these poor people: according as he had foretold to them by Jeremiah the Prophet, before the destruction of the city; that after they had served Nebuchadnezzar, and his posterity; and after they had undergone that servitude seventy (3) and the temple of God; for that he would be their assistant; and that he would write to the rulers and governours that were in the neighbourhood of their countrey of Judea, that they should contribute to them gold and silver, for the building of the temple; and besides that, beasts for their sacrifices.”

When Cyrus had said this to the Israelites, the Rulers of the two tribes of Judah and Benjamin, with the Levites, and Priests, went in haste to Jerusalem. Yet did many of them stay at Babylon; as not willing to leave their possessions. And when they were come thither, all the King’s friends assisted them, and brought in, for the building of the temple, some gold, and some silver, and some a great many cattel, and horses. So they performed their vows to God; and offered the sacrifices that had been accustomed of old time; I mean this upon the rebuilding of their city, and the revival of the ancient practices relating to their worship. Cyrus also sent back to them the vessels of God which King Nebuchadnezzar had pillaged out of the temple, and had carried to Babylon. So he committed these things to Mithridates, the treasurer, to be sent away; with an order to give them to Sanabassar, that he might keep them till the temple was built; and when it was finished, he might deliver them to the Priests and Rulers of the multitude, in order to their being restored to the temple. Cyrus also sent an Epistle to the Governours, that were in Syria: the contents whereof here follow.<<

 

[louie888]

Even the quran tells of Solomon building the temple

Because the Muslim religion begins with the Torah. And did you plagiarize that whole thing and the next one? If so, have a link?

 

[aris2chat]

Even the quran tells of Solomon building the temple

Because the Muslim religion begins with the Torah. And did you plagiarize that whole thing and the next one? If so, have a link?

Antiquities of the Jews Book XI Josephus

 

[montelatici]

>>[An. 536.] In the first year of the reign of Cyrus; which was the seventieth from the day that our people were removed out of their own land into Babylon; (2) God commiserated the captivity and calamity of these poor people: according as he had foretold to them by Jeremiah the Prophet, before the destruction of the city; that after they had served Nebuchadnezzar, and his posterity; and after they had undergone that servitude seventy years, he would restore them again to the land of their fathers; and they should build their temple, and enjoy their ancient prosperity. And these things God did afford them. For he stirred up the mind of Cyrus, and made him write thus throughout all Asia: “Thus saith Cyrus the King: since God Almighty hath appointed me to be King of the habitable earth, I believe that He is that God, which the nation of the Israelites worship. For indeed he foretold my name by the Prophets, and that I should build him an house at Jerusalem, in the countrey of Judea.”

God commiserated the captivity and calamity of these poor people: according as he had foretold to them by Jeremiah the Prophet, before the destruction of the city; that after they had served Nebuchadnezzar, and his posterity; and after they had undergone that servitude seventy (3) and the temple of God; for that he would be their assistant; and that he would write to the rulers and governours that were in the neighbourhood of their countrey of Judea, that they should contribute to them gold and silver, for the building of the temple; and besides that, beasts for their sacrifices.”

When Cyrus had said this to the Israelites, the Rulers of the two tribes of Judah and Benjamin, with the Levites, and Priests, went in haste to Jerusalem. Yet did many of them stay at Babylon; as not willing to leave their possessions. And when they were come thither, all the King’s friends assisted them, and brought in, for the building of the temple, some gold, and some silver, and some a great many cattel, and horses. So they performed their vows to God; and offered the sacrifices that had been accustomed of old time; I mean this upon the rebuilding of their city, and the revival of the ancient practices relating to their worship. Cyrus also sent back to them the vessels of God which King Nebuchadnezzar had pillaged out of the temple, and had carried to Babylon. So he committed these things to Mithridates, the treasurer, to be sent away; with an order to give them to Sanabassar, that he might keep them till the temple was built; and when it was finished, he might deliver them to the Priests and Rulers of the multitude, in order to their being restored to the temple. Cyrus also sent an Epistle to the Governours, that were in Syria: the contents whereof here follow.<<

Since you believe the Jewish bullshit, shouldn't you renounce Christ and become a Jew?

 

[louie888]

Antiquities of the Jews Book XI Josephus

Why plagerize and why not post a link. You do this often.

 

[aris2chat]

Antiquities of the Jews Book XI Josephus

Why plagerize and why not post a link. You do this often.

there was a link in red

 

[louie888]

Antiquities of the Jews Book XI Josephus

Why plagerize and why not post a link. You do this often.

there was a link in red

Nope, not on my computer and just like the majority of these irrelevant posts you somehow feel are making a point for you. Stop plagiarizing too, it is pure cut and paste, it's obvious and it's silly.

Anyways, "Palestine" 12 BC - "israel" 1948... do the math.

 

[aris2chat]

Antiquities of the Jews Book XI Josephus

Why plagerize and why not post a link. You do this often.

there was a link in red

Nope, not on my computer and just like the majority of these irrelevant posts you somehow feel are making a point for you. Stop plagiarizing too, it is pure cut and paste, it's obvious and it's silly.

Anyways, "Palestine" 12 BC - "israel" 1948... do the math.

(2)

 

[louie888]

Great, now what do you think you proved? And please post from your link the relevant text. Or, how any of this relates to this thread.

 

[aris2chat]

Great, now what do you think you proved? And please post from your link the relevant text. Or, how any of this relates to this thread.

You kept claiming there was no temple on the mount. I proved you wrong from outside sources.

you whine like a child who want dessert for breakfast

 

[louie888]

Great, now what do you think you proved? And please post from your link the relevant text. Or, how any of this relates to this thread.

You kept claiming there was no temple on the mount. I proved you wrong from outside sources.

you whine like a child who want dessert for breakfast

You did not prove anything of the sort. I assume your level of literacy does not allow you to understand what you read. If you even read it, which I doubt, based on your baseless conclusion.

 

[aris2chat]

Diodorus, Hecataeus, Livy, Tacitus, Cassius Dio, Antiochus IV Ephiphanes, Agatharchides of Cnidus, Josephus

Quran

• Appraisals for Solomon: 2:102, 6:84, 21:81–82, 27:15–16, 27:18–23, 27:36–39, 27:44, 34:12–13, 38:30–31, 38:35–40
• Solomon's preaching: 4:163, 27:25, 27:31, 27:44
• Solomon judged: 21:78–79
• Fitnah to Solomon: 38:32–34
• Solomon and Queen Balqis (Sheba’): 27:28–31, 27:34–44
• The Kingdom of Sheba: 27:23, 34:15, 34:18
• Solomon's death: 34:14

The Qur'an refers to the existence of both temples in verse 17:7.

Don't NK also believe in the Torah and Tanakh?

How can you still claim there was no temple?

 

[louie888]

It is only beyond dispute to religious whackjobs and their mouthpieces.

 

[aris2chat]

It is only beyond dispute to religious whackjobs and their mouthpieces.

the wakf?

 

[montelatici]

"The inscription is engraved on a large pithos, a neckless ceramic jar found with six others at the Ophel excavation site. According to Dr. Mazar, the inscription, in the Canaanite language, is the only one of its kind discovered in Jerusalem and an important addition to the city’s history.
Dated to the tenth century BCE, the artifact predates by two hundred and fifty years the earliest known Hebrew inscription from Jerusalem, which is from the period of King Hezekiah at the end of the eighth century BCE."
Temple Mount: Oldest Ever Artifact Discovered in Jerusalem

 

[louie888]

Don't NK also believe in the Torah and Tanakh?

How can you still claim there was no temple?

Yes they do and because the is no evidence in reality.

 

[louie888]

Dated to the tenth century BCE, the artifact predates by two hundred and fifty years the earliest known Hebrew inscription from Jerusalem, which is from the period of King Hezekiah at the end of the eighth century BCE."

Awkward...