The Democrats Want Higher Taxes And Have The Public Option Back On The Table

[The Rabbi]

A prime example is the law in the Health Care bill that bans pre-existing conditions. This and other mandates will put private companies out of business. It sounds good on the stump but it is insane.

Over a dozen states already have some form of guaranteed issue laws (6 completely unrestricted). Do you think no private insurers exist in those states, just public payers?

I wonder what the rates are relative to states that don't have such laws.

 

[rightwinger]

Your point is confusing...you fret about those with pre-conditions while saying we all need to be covered under the same program. They need to have a smaller program covering those who don't qualify for private insurance...but instead Obama wants everyone to be in the same program. He's said as much.

If you want to cover all Americans this Health Care bill doesn't do it. As reported at least 30 million Americans still slipped through the cracks.

Tell the Insurance Companies that if they want to insure one American....they have to insure all

If not.......get the hell out

Why won't you tell that to the government???????

The Government has already said that they would cover any American who needed health insurance

Why should insurance companies be able to cherry pick so they only get healthy people to insure?

If you want to sell health insurance in this country, you should be obligated to insure every American or none

 

[The Rabbi]

Tell the Insurance Companies that if they want to insure one American....they have to insure all

If not.......get the hell out

Why won't you tell that to the government???????

The Government has already said that they would cover any American who needed health insurance

Why should insurance companies be able to cherry pick so they only get healthy people to insure?

If you want to sell health insurance in this country, you should be obligated to insure every American or none

Why? What other business is regulated like that? If you want to write a mortgage, you ought to be prepared to write a mortgage ot every AMerican or none. If you want to issue a credit card, you ought to issue one to every American or none.
That is socialist claptrap nonsense from a socialist claptrap.

 

[rightwinger]

Why won't you tell that to the government???????

The Government has already said that they would cover any American who needed health insurance

Why should insurance companies be able to cherry pick so they only get healthy people to insure?

If you want to sell health insurance in this country, you should be obligated to insure every American or none

Why? What other business is regulated like that? If you want to write a mortgage, you ought to be prepared to write a mortgage ot every AMerican or none. If you want to issue a credit card, you ought to issue one to every American or none.
That is socialist claptrap nonsense from a socialist claptrap.

Every American does not have a right to live in a house...they do have a right to live

People have control over their credit history. They cannot control congenital birth defects and cancer. If health insurance companies want to insure Americans let them insure everyone regardless of what hand they have been dealt regarding their health.

If they are not willing to do so, it makes a pressing reason for Government Single payer

 

[Meister]

Tell the Insurance Companies that if they want to insure one American....they have to insure all

If not.......get the hell out

Why won't you tell that to the government???????

The Government has already said that they would cover any American who needed health insurance

Why should insurance companies be able to cherry pick so they only get healthy people to insure?

If you want to sell health insurance in this country, you should be obligated to insure every American or none

Not every American will hve health insurance no matter what you say, leftwinger. But carry on with your yarn

 

[The Rabbi]

The Government has already said that they would cover any American who needed health insurance

Why should insurance companies be able to cherry pick so they only get healthy people to insure?

If you want to sell health insurance in this country, you should be obligated to insure every American or none

Why? What other business is regulated like that? If you want to write a mortgage, you ought to be prepared to write a mortgage ot every AMerican or none. If you want to issue a credit card, you ought to issue one to every American or none.
That is socialist claptrap nonsense from a socialist claptrap.

Every American does not have a right to live in a house...they do have a right to live

People have control over their credit history. They cannot control congenital birth defects and cancer. If health insurance companies want to insure Americans let them insure everyone regardless of what hand they have been dealt regarding their health.

If they are not willing to do so, it makes a pressing reason for Government Single payer

Every American does not have a right to a weekly paycheck. They do not have a right to receive unlimited benefits from the government or from private companies. They do not have a right to health insurance. Or car insurance. Or life insurance.
They certainly have control over their own obesity and smoking and drinking habits. And those are the largest causes of health conditions in this country.
And companies certainly have the right to do business on whatever basis they want, subject to very limited guidelines.

 

[rightwinger]

Why? What other business is regulated like that? If you want to write a mortgage, you ought to be prepared to write a mortgage ot every AMerican or none. If you want to issue a credit card, you ought to issue one to every American or none.
That is socialist claptrap nonsense from a socialist claptrap.

Every American does not have a right to live in a house...they do have a right to live

People have control over their credit history. They cannot control congenital birth defects and cancer. If health insurance companies want to insure Americans let them insure everyone regardless of what hand they have been dealt regarding their health.

If they are not willing to do so, it makes a pressing reason for Government Single payer

Every American does not have a right to a weekly paycheck. They do not have a right to receive unlimited benefits from the government or from private companies. They do not have a right to health insurance. Or car insurance. Or life insurance.
They certainly have control over their own obesity and smoking and drinking habits. And those are the largest causes of health conditions in this country.
And companies certainly have the right to do business on whatever basis they want, subject to very limited guidelines.

We are the wealthiest nation on earth. Americans have the right to expect coverage on a par with other modern democracies

Telling an American with cancer that he is shit out of luck because his company went bankrupt, or telling someone with a child who is dying that they don't have a right to insurance coverage is not the country I grew up in

But I forgot we are dealing with the Party of Fuck-you.... The Republicans

 

[Meister]

Every American does not have a right to live in a house...they do have a right to live

People have control over their credit history. They cannot control congenital birth defects and cancer. If health insurance companies want to insure Americans let them insure everyone regardless of what hand they have been dealt regarding their health.

If they are not willing to do so, it makes a pressing reason for Government Single payer

Every American does not have a right to a weekly paycheck. They do not have a right to receive unlimited benefits from the government or from private companies. They do not have a right to health insurance. Or car insurance. Or life insurance.
They certainly have control over their own obesity and smoking and drinking habits. And those are the largest causes of health conditions in this country.
And companies certainly have the right to do business on whatever basis they want, subject to very limited guidelines.

We are the welthiest nation on earth. Americans have the right to expect coverage on a par with other modern democracies

Telling an American with cancer that he is shit out of luck because his company went bankrupt, or telling someone with a child who is dying that they don't have a right to insurance coverage is not the country I grew up in

But I forgot we are dealing with the Party of Fuck-you.... The Republicans

Yet we are up to our neck in debt, and rising....go figure.
You seem to forget that there are other solutuions to the problem of insurance in America, I don't know if that is by your design or not. Same results....just less government intrusion. But of course, you would be a person that would say "NO!"

 

[The Rabbi]

Every American does not have a right to live in a house...they do have a right to live

People have control over their credit history. They cannot control congenital birth defects and cancer. If health insurance companies want to insure Americans let them insure everyone regardless of what hand they have been dealt regarding their health.

If they are not willing to do so, it makes a pressing reason for Government Single payer

Every American does not have a right to a weekly paycheck. They do not have a right to receive unlimited benefits from the government or from private companies. They do not have a right to health insurance. Or car insurance. Or life insurance.
They certainly have control over their own obesity and smoking and drinking habits. And those are the largest causes of health conditions in this country.
And companies certainly have the right to do business on whatever basis they want, subject to very limited guidelines.

We are the wealthiest nation on earth. Americans have the right to expect coverage on a par with other modern democracies

Telling an American with cancer that he is shit out of luck because his company went bankrupt, or telling someone with a child who is dying that they don't have a right to insurance coverage is not the country I grew up in

But I forgot we are dealing with the Party of Fuck-you.... The Republicans

Usual liberal line: Take it all because they're wealthy. They'll never miss it."
The Democratic Party: You want to be wealthy? Fuck you.

 

[rightwinger]

Every American does not have a right to a weekly paycheck. They do not have a right to receive unlimited benefits from the government or from private companies. They do not have a right to health insurance. Or car insurance. Or life insurance.
They certainly have control over their own obesity and smoking and drinking habits. And those are the largest causes of health conditions in this country.
And companies certainly have the right to do business on whatever basis they want, subject to very limited guidelines.

We are the wealthiest nation on earth. Americans have the right to expect coverage on a par with other modern democracies

Telling an American with cancer that he is shit out of luck because his company went bankrupt, or telling someone with a child who is dying that they don't have a right to insurance coverage is not the country I grew up in

But I forgot we are dealing with the Party of Fuck-you.... The Republicans

Usual liberal line: Take it all because they're wealthy. They'll never miss it."
The Democratic Party: You want to be wealthy? Fuck you.

Republican Party to every American but the wealthy? Fuck You

 

[The Rabbi]

We are the wealthiest nation on earth. Americans have the right to expect coverage on a par with other modern democracies

Telling an American with cancer that he is shit out of luck because his company went bankrupt, or telling someone with a child who is dying that they don't have a right to insurance coverage is not the country I grew up in

But I forgot we are dealing with the Party of Fuck-you.... The Republicans

Usual liberal line: Take it all because they're wealthy. They'll never miss it."
The Democratic Party: You want to be wealthy? Fuck you.

Republican Party to every American but the wealthy? Fuck You

Which is why Wall St and big business supported McCain.
Oh, wait. They didn't.

 

[Old Rocks]

Why? What other business is regulated like that? If you want to write a mortgage, you ought to be prepared to write a mortgage ot every AMerican or none. If you want to issue a credit card, you ought to issue one to every American or none.
That is socialist claptrap nonsense from a socialist claptrap.

Every American does not have a right to live in a house...they do have a right to live

People have control over their credit history. They cannot control congenital birth defects and cancer. If health insurance companies want to insure Americans let them insure everyone regardless of what hand they have been dealt regarding their health.

If they are not willing to do so, it makes a pressing reason for Government Single payer

Every American does not have a right to a weekly paycheck. They do not have a right to receive unlimited benefits from the government or from private companies. They do not have a right to health insurance. Or car insurance. Or life insurance.
They certainly have control over their own obesity and smoking and drinking habits. And those are the largest causes of health conditions in this country.
And companies certainly have the right to do business on whatever basis they want, subject to very limited guidelines.

Yet every Japanese has basic insurance, as does the citizens of every other industrial nation.

 

[rightwinger]

Usual liberal line: Take it all because they're wealthy. They'll never miss it."
The Democratic Party: You want to be wealthy? Fuck you.

Republican Party to every American but the wealthy? Fuck You

Which is why Wall St and big business supported McCain.
Oh, wait. They didn't.

And who is protecting Wall Street today from having to clean up their act?

Why the party that says Fuck-you if you are not rich...the Republicans

 

[The Rabbi]

Republican Party to every American but the wealthy? Fuck You

Which is why Wall St and big business supported McCain.
Oh, wait. They didn't.

And who is protecting Wall Street today from having to clean up their act?

Why the party that says Fuck-you if you are not rich...the Republicans

Have anything to substantiate that other than the usual class warfare nonsense? No, clips from Rachel Maddow just don't count.

 

[The Rabbi]

Every American does not have a right to live in a house...they do have a right to live

People have control over their credit history. They cannot control congenital birth defects and cancer. If health insurance companies want to insure Americans let them insure everyone regardless of what hand they have been dealt regarding their health.

If they are not willing to do so, it makes a pressing reason for Government Single payer

Every American does not have a right to a weekly paycheck. They do not have a right to receive unlimited benefits from the government or from private companies. They do not have a right to health insurance. Or car insurance. Or life insurance.
They certainly have control over their own obesity and smoking and drinking habits. And those are the largest causes of health conditions in this country.
And companies certainly have the right to do business on whatever basis they want, subject to very limited guidelines.

Yet every Japanese has basic insurance, as does the citizens of every other industrial nation.

Maybe you could move there and they will cover your mental health treatments, obviously needed.

 

[mudwhistle]

The Government has already said that they would cover any American who needed health insurance

Why should insurance companies be able to cherry pick so they only get healthy people to insure?

If you want to sell health insurance in this country, you should be obligated to insure every American or none

Why? What other business is regulated like that? If you want to write a mortgage, you ought to be prepared to write a mortgage ot every AMerican or none. If you want to issue a credit card, you ought to issue one to every American or none.
That is socialist claptrap nonsense from a socialist claptrap.

Every American does not have a right to live in a house...they do have a right to live

People have control over their credit history. They cannot control congenital birth defects and cancer. If health insurance companies want to insure Americans let them insure everyone regardless of what hand they have been dealt regarding their health.

If they are not willing to do so, it makes a pressing reason for Government Single payer

If you want to insure a child you have to include them in your insurance policy before they are conceived. After a spouse becomes prego the unborn child is not covered until born and then if they have birth defects they most likely won't be covered. The safest bet is to make sure before you become pregnant that anyone who comes into your family is covered. That means you have to pay extra but then at least you're covered.

 

[The Rabbi]

Which is why Wall St and big business supported McCain.
Oh, wait. They didn't.

And who is protecting Wall Street today from having to clean up their act?

Why the party that says Fuck-you if you are not rich...the Republicans

Have anything to substantiate that other than the usual class warfare nonsense? No, clips from Rachel Maddow just don't count.

Your lack of response is nauseatingly typical.

 

[rightwinger]

Why? What other business is regulated like that? If you want to write a mortgage, you ought to be prepared to write a mortgage ot every AMerican or none. If you want to issue a credit card, you ought to issue one to every American or none.
That is socialist claptrap nonsense from a socialist claptrap.

Every American does not have a right to live in a house...they do have a right to live

People have control over their credit history. They cannot control congenital birth defects and cancer. If health insurance companies want to insure Americans let them insure everyone regardless of what hand they have been dealt regarding their health.

If they are not willing to do so, it makes a pressing reason for Government Single payer

If you want to insure a child you have to include them in your insurance policy before they are conceived. After a spouse becomes prego the unborn child is not covered until born and then if they have birth defects they most likely won't be covered. The safest bet is to make sure before you become pregnant that anyone who comes into your family is covered. That means you have to pay extra but then at least you're covered.

More reason for eliminating pre-existing conditions. The current policy of gotcha from the insurers to disallow coverage on sick Americans. If the child is born with birth defects and the parent loses his job they are excluded
Can't believe Republicans voted against this
Thats why the Republicans are the Party of Fuck-you

 

[The Rabbi]

Every American does not have a right to live in a house...they do have a right to live

People have control over their credit history. They cannot control congenital birth defects and cancer. If health insurance companies want to insure Americans let them insure everyone regardless of what hand they have been dealt regarding their health.

If they are not willing to do so, it makes a pressing reason for Government Single payer

If you want to insure a child you have to include them in your insurance policy before they are conceived. After a spouse becomes prego the unborn child is not covered until born and then if they have birth defects they most likely won't be covered. The safest bet is to make sure before you become pregnant that anyone who comes into your family is covered. That means you have to pay extra but then at least you're covered.

More reason for eliminating pre-existing conditions. The current policy of gotcha from the insurers to disallow coverage on sick Americans. If the child is born with birth defects and the parent loses his job they are excluded
Can't believe Republicans voted against this
Thats why the Republicans are the Party of Fuck-you

And forcing insurers to take unprofitable business will cause fewer insurers and higher rates for everyone else.
That's why Democrats are The Party of Fuck You.

and of course there is no substantiation for any of your posts. Typical.

 

[rightwinger]

If you want to insure a child you have to include them in your insurance policy before they are conceived. After a spouse becomes prego the unborn child is not covered until born and then if they have birth defects they most likely won't be covered. The safest bet is to make sure before you become pregnant that anyone who comes into your family is covered. That means you have to pay extra but then at least you're covered.

More reason for eliminating pre-existing conditions. The current policy of gotcha from the insurers to disallow coverage on sick Americans. If the child is born with birth defects and the parent loses his job they are excluded
Can't believe Republicans voted against this
Thats why the Republicans are the Party of Fuck-you

And forcing insurers to take unprofitable business will cause fewer insurers and higher rates for everyone else.
That's why Democrats are The Party of Fuck You.

and of course there is no substantiation for any of your posts. Typical.

That "unprofitable business" is human beings with significant illnesses. To ignore those "unprofitable business" shows why the Republicans are the Party of Fuck-you to anyone who is not wealthy or have the misfortune of being sick