The debates

[P F Tinmore]

Was there ever a different response from you,
to murder of members of my ethnicity?

What does ethnicity have to do with anything?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Why not cut and paste some links that identify the intention of the Pallys, that is, to explicitly put children into a war zone the Pallys create?

It is not the Palestinian's war zone, The Zionists bring their war zone with them wherever they go.

 

[rylah]

What does ethnicity have to do with anything?

Ethnicity is the only consistent factor in your argument for murder.

 

[rylah]

It is not the Palestinian's war zone, The Zionists bring their war zone with them wherever they go.

Is it the Arab supremacist's
"she wore a shirt skirt" argument...?

No Zionist ever shot a bullet
before the Arab pogroms.

 

[Hollie]

It is not the Palestinian's war zone, The Zionists bring their war zone with them wherever they go.

Apparently you weren't paying attention when the Islamic terrorists called to breach the Israeli border and ''tear the hearts out'' of the Jews. That was difficult to miss so it suggests you're taqiyya skills are lacking.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: The Debates
SUBTOPIC: About Tinyurl.com Circular Reasoning
※→ watchingfromafar, el al,

BLUF: TINYURL is a quasi-IT Company. It is NOT a professional news service. A fragment of TINYURL piggybacks off the work of other news agencies.

No need, Google has done it for me
https://tinyurl.com/mvszsuay
A 100% American company

(COMMENT)

According to DNS / WHOIS Lookup information service:

"This domain (TinyURL.com) has been flagged in at least one database of nefarious web servers. In particular, this domain has been flagged as phishing, spyware.​

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Cloudflare security assessment status for tinyurl.com: Safe ."​

You have to be careful. TinyURL is a valid source of domain management and internet addressing but has no credibility as a wire service or independent news media. The information it presents may (in point of fact) come from a totally amateur source or propaganda link. Twitter and Facebook are not independent news services. Any can post anything they want, and then on an internet search, it will pop-up. Even USMB pops up when you do a search for "How many children does the IDF need to murder..." which in turn links you back to TinyURL. Thus TinyURL uses itself as a corroborating source for its own news story.

Thus, TinyURL uses a USMB member as a source of information, which the USMB member uses TinyURL as a source.

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Circular Reasoning​

The Fallacy of Circular Reasoning occurs when the reasoner begins with what he or she is trying to end up with.​

Here is Steven Pinker’s example:​

Definition: endless loop, n. See loop, endless.

Definition: loop, endless, n. See endless loop.​

It is easy to get caught-up in these propaganda charades.

Arab (Middle Eastern) wire services have been known to do this between media outlets.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

the Islamic terrorists called to breach the Israeli border

What border?

 

[Hollie]

What border?

The border that the Israelis defend.

Why is it that you folks explicitly bus children to the war zone you created?

The always unanswered question.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The border that the Israelis defend.

Why is it that you folks explicitly bus children to the war zone you created?

The always unanswered question.

It is Israel's war zone.

 

[Hollie]

It is Israel's war zone.

You're not understanding that your islamic terrorist heroes announced their intention to crash the Israeli border, organzed the attacks on Israeli defense forces and later bussed children to the war zone they created?

You can find many youtube videos to support the above.

Are you just playing stupid?

 

[P F Tinmore]

You're not understanding that your islamic terrorist heroes announced their intention to crash the Israeli border, organzed the attacks on Israeli defense forces and later bussed children to the war zone they created?

You can find many youtube videos to support the above.

Are you just playing stupid?

Too late, Israel had already started its war.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: The Debates
SUBTOPIC: About War

※→ P F Tinmore, el at,

Too late, Israel had already started its war.

(COMMENT)

You are being ridiculous once again.

The conflict between Jordan (which covered the West Bank & Jerusalem) and Egypt (covering the Gaza Strip) came to its ending by Peace Treaty.

The insurgency between the Sole Representative of the Palestinians and Israel almost came to a conclusion with the Oslo Accords. The PA/PLO President Abbas declares end to agreements with Israel:

• President Abbas declares end to agreements with Israel, …​

  english.wafa.ps/page.aspx?id=XWg2jja117154132029aXWg2jj
  RAMALLAH, Tuesday, May 19, 2020 (WAFA) – President Mahmoud Abbas today declared anend to the agreements and understandings signed with Israel and the United States and turned over responsibility over the occupied territories back to Israel. "The Palestine Liberation Organization and the State of Palestine are absolved, as of today, of all the agreements and understandings …
  
  

• Palestinian President Abbas Declares End to Agreements ...​

  https://portside.org/.../palestinian-president-abbas-declares-end-agreements-israel-us
  May 23, 2020 · Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas declared late Tuesday night an end to “all agreements and understandings” with Israel and the United States, and that his

It is presumed that the response satisfied the court that the Oslo Accords are still active.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

RE: The Debates
SUBTOPIC: Borders
※→ P F Tinmore, el at,

What border?

(COMMENT)

I do not believe you understand what a border is... If you did, you would then know the answer to your question.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Hollie]

Too late, Israel had already started its war.

What war? This seems to be another pointless, irresponsible claim of yours.

I find no declaration of war made by the Israeli government.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The conflict between Jordan (which covered the West Bank & Jerusalem) and Egypt (covering the Gaza Strip) came to its ending by Peace Treaty.

So, who lost that war?

Or, what land did Egypt and Jordan lose?

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: The Debates
SUBTOPIC: Borders
※→ P F Tinmore, el at,

(COMMENT)

I do not believe you understand what a border is... If you did, you would then know the answer to your question.
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Most Respectfully,
R

Was that treaty written by the US? You know, the country that illegally gave Jerusalem and the Golan to Israel.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: The Debates
SUBTOPIC: Treaties and Conflicts
※→ P F Tinmore, el at,

Was that treaty written by the US? You know, the country that illegally gave Jerusalem and the Golan to Israel.

(COMMENT)

The US did not write any Treaty relative to Israel's status with an Arab League Nation (specifically: ◈ Egypt and Israel Treaty of Peace or ◈ Jordan-Israeli Peace Treaty )

The US did not illegally give any territory to Israel since Israel established itself under the Right of Self-Determination.

So, who lost that war?

Or, what land did Egypt and Jordan lose?

(COMMENT)

Neither party (Israel 'vs' Egypt) (Israel 'vs' Jordan) made a determination pertaining to victory or defeat. The Treaties brought closer to a conflict that erupted in 1948 in which these three parties were involved.

In 1967 Egpyt no longer had control of the Gaza Strip and Jordan no longer had control of the West Bank and Jerusalem.

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(JUMPING FORWARD TO THE PRESENT)

In 2005, the Israelis unilaterally withdrew from the Gaza Strip.

The situation in the West Bank and Jerusalem is somewhat different and complex. Israel and the sole representative of the Palestinian People.

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(Para 3, A/PV.2268. 14 October 1974), agree to ANNEX III Protocol Concerning Civil Affairs • ARTICLE IV Special Provisions concerning Area "C" • which assigned Israel full civil and security control over Area “C".​

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Article V. Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government Arrangements September 13, 1993​

TRANSITIONAL PERIOD AND PERMANENT STATUS NEGOTIATIONS​

as explained in Posting #59.​

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: The Debates
SUBTOPIC: Treaties and Conflicts
※→ P F Tinmore, el at,


(COMMENT)

The US did not write any Treaty relative to Israel's status with an Arab League Nation (specifically: ◈ Egypt and Israel Treaty of Peace or ◈ Jordan-Israeli Peace Treaty )

The US did not illegally give any territory to Israel since Israel established itself under the Right of Self-Determination.


(COMMENT)

Neither party (Israel 'vs' Egypt) (Israel 'vs' Jordan) made a determination pertaining to victory or defeat. The Treaties brought closer to a conflict that erupted in 1948 in which these three parties were involved.

In 1967 Egpyt no longer had control of the Gaza Strip and Jordan no longer had control of the West Bank and Jerusalem.

---

(JUMPING FORWARD TO THE PRESENT)

In 2005, the Israelis unilaterally withdrew from the Gaza Strip.

The situation in the West Bank and Jerusalem is somewhat different and complex. Israel and the sole representative of the Palestinian People.

​

(Para 3, A/PV.2268. 14 October 1974), agree to ANNEX III Protocol Concerning Civil Affairs • ARTICLE IV Special Provisions concerning Area "C" • which assigned Israel full civil and security control over Area “C".​

​

Article V. Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government Arrangements September 13, 1993​

TRANSITIONAL PERIOD AND PERMANENT STATUS NEGOTIATIONS​

as explained in Posting #59.​

Most Respectfully,
R

Neither party (Israel 'vs' Egypt) (Israel 'vs' Jordan) made a determination pertaining to victory or defeat.

Indeed, this counters Israel's bullshit that the "Arabs" lost that war.

Whenever I mention that, the Israelis start dancing.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: The Debates
SUBTOPIC: Treaties and Conflicts
※→ P F Tinmore, el at,


(COMMENT)

The US did not write any Treaty relative to Israel's status with an Arab League Nation (specifically: ◈ Egypt and Israel Treaty of Peace or ◈ Jordan-Israeli Peace Treaty )

The US did not illegally give any territory to Israel since Israel established itself under the Right of Self-Determination.


(COMMENT)

Neither party (Israel 'vs' Egypt) (Israel 'vs' Jordan) made a determination pertaining to victory or defeat. The Treaties brought closer to a conflict that erupted in 1948 in which these three parties were involved.

In 1967 Egpyt no longer had control of the Gaza Strip and Jordan no longer had control of the West Bank and Jerusalem.

---

(JUMPING FORWARD TO THE PRESENT)

In 2005, the Israelis unilaterally withdrew from the Gaza Strip.

The situation in the West Bank and Jerusalem is somewhat different and complex. Israel and the sole representative of the Palestinian People.

​

(Para 3, A/PV.2268. 14 October 1974), agree to ANNEX III Protocol Concerning Civil Affairs • ARTICLE IV Special Provisions concerning Area "C" • which assigned Israel full civil and security control over Area “C".​

​

Article V. Declaration of Principles on Interim Self-Government Arrangements September 13, 1993​

TRANSITIONAL PERIOD AND PERMANENT STATUS NEGOTIATIONS​

as explained in Posting #59.​

Most Respectfully,
R

The US did not illegally give any territory to Israel since Israel established itself under the Right of Self-Determination.

So, the Right of Self-Determination means you can steal someone else's shit?

 

[Hollie]

Indeed, this counters Israel's bullshit that the "Arabs" lost that war.

Whenever I mention that, the Israelis start dancing.

Indeed. The Arabs-Moslems lost badly, consistently when they waged wars against the Israelis.

Indeed, whenever that's mentioned, the Arabs-Moslems start whining about not losing. The shrill pitch of their whining is unique to the particular war they lost.