The Cost Of Losing A War

[Flanders]

A tab of $18.5 billion is only the beginning:

Some basic math reveals that in 2000, illegal immigrants accounted for $6.45 billion of national medical spending.

Since 2000, "national medical spending" has increased by about 162% (i.e., a factor of >2.6), and the share of the U.S. population from illegal immigrants has -- if we take the likely underestimates at face value -- increased to 3.5%.

Consequently, crunching the numbers, we arrive at a projected current annual cost from providing health care to illegal immigrants of $18.5 billion.

Thus, it appears Trump is indeed wrong, as Zallman and Woolhandler claim, just not in the direction they believe. The actual cost of giving illegals health care is likely to be nearly twice as much as Trump's website states.

In other words, the problem is far worse than even the most "radical" Republican views have imagined.​

May 28, 2016
Health care for illegals: $18.5 billion per year
By Sierra Rayne

Blog: Health care for illegals: $18.5 billion per year​

Elderly Americans were forced to buy and pay for the benefits they were promised. The amount of money diverted from Medicare has already punished SS recipients by reducing benefits in order to help pay for illegal aliens. It will only get worse. Now, add United Nations economic refugees to the bill:

U.S. plots with United Nations to expand Syrian refugees from 10,000 to 200,000
By Paul Bedard
4/25/16 7:21 PM

U.S. plots with United Nations to expand Syrian refugees from 10,000 to 200,000​

Take this one to the bank. If Democrats win the presidency, or either house of Congress, the number of economic refugees will be in the millions before the 2020 election is upon us. In fact, Democrats do not need a majority in either House to keep the borders open. A supermajority of Republicans and conservatives is the only thing that can shutdown the Democrat party’s open-borders global agenda.

http://www.americanthinker.com/images/bucket/2016-05/196606_5_.jpg

Between the income tax paying for the ACA, and the parasites who never did a day’s work to pay for the free healthcare they get, at least 35 percent of Americans are being reduced to Third World living standards. As more wealth is transferred to the parasite class and tax dollar charity hustlers, the 35 percent in poverty must inevitably rise until the number goes above the 50 percent mark and higher with no hope of ever working their way out of poverty.

Bottom line: LBJ’s war on poverty is a variation of a weak country declaring a shooting war. The more money it takes to fight a losing war the closer a country comes to paying for its own permanent destruction.

 

[anotherlife]

Considering that even ww1-2 has not yet been cost balanced, ....

 

[Flanders]

Considering that even ww1-2 has not yet been cost balanced, ....

To anotherlife: America won those two as well as the Cold War. All three came with victory bonuses.

Incidentally, Americans are still paying a telephone tax/fee to fight the Spanish-American War which gave us Puerto Rico and the Philippines. The Philippines is now an independent country. The way things are going in Puerto Rico maybe Americans should make Spain take it back!

One question: How come peaceniks, along with all of those liberals who never stop moaning about the military-industrial-complex, do not demand an end to funding for the Spanish-American War?

WASHINGTON- Citing President Clinton\'s veto of a bill to repeal the 102-year old federal excise tax on telecommunications, Americans for Tax Reform (ATR) today roundly criticized the Clinton-Gore Administration for protecting an outdated tax that widens the digital divide and is putting high-speed Internet access out of reach for over 100,000 Americans.

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"The federal excise tax on telecommunications is a flat 3% surcharge on Americans\' phone bills," Norquist added. "The tax was first imposed as a \'luxury tax\' at a time when there were barely 2000 phone lines in operation across America. Now, with 99% of Americans with telephone service, the tax constitutes another broad-based tax Americans barely know exists because it\'s buried in telephone bills."

Clinton Sustains Spanish-American War Tax​

And you pay the tax listed as a fee on your bill for every phone line you have in addition to your cell phone. The original tax was 5 cents. I believe the “fee” is over $3.00 these days. Call your telephone company for details.

 

[anotherlife]

Considering that even ww1-2 has not yet been cost balanced, ....

To anotherlife: America won those two as well as the Cold War. All three came with victory bonuses.

Incidentally, Americans are still paying a telephone tax/fee to fight the Spanish-American War which gave us Puerto Rico and the Philippines. The Philippines is now an independent country. The way things are going in Puerto Rico maybe Americans should make Spain take it back!

One question: How come peaceniks, along with all of those liberals who never stop moaning about the military-industrial-complex, do not demand an end to funding for the Spanish-American War?

WASHINGTON- Citing President Clinton\'s veto of a bill to repeal the 102-year old federal excise tax on telecommunications, Americans for Tax Reform (ATR) today roundly criticized the Clinton-Gore Administration for protecting an outdated tax that widens the digital divide and is putting high-speed Internet access out of reach for over 100,000 Americans.

XXXXX​

"The federal excise tax on telecommunications is a flat 3% surcharge on Americans\' phone bills," Norquist added. "The tax was first imposed as a \'luxury tax\' at a time when there were barely 2000 phone lines in operation across America. Now, with 99% of Americans with telephone service, the tax constitutes another broad-based tax Americans barely know exists because it\'s buried in telephone bills."

Clinton Sustains Spanish-American War Tax​

And you pay the tax listed as a fee on your bill for every phone line you have in addition to your cell phone. The original tax was 5 cents. I believe the “fee” is over $3.00 these days. Call your telephone company for details.

The entire idea of individual taxation was invented and implemented to fund ww2. That one is not about to go away either. I guess money is too good.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

A tab of $18.5 billion is only the beginning:

Some basic math reveals that in 2000, illegal immigrants accounted for $6.45 billion of national medical spending.

Since 2000, "national medical spending" has increased by about 162% (i.e., a factor of >2.6), and the share of the U.S. population from illegal immigrants has -- if we take the likely underestimates at face value -- increased to 3.5%.

Consequently, crunching the numbers, we arrive at a projected current annual cost from providing health care to illegal immigrants of $18.5 billion.

Thus, it appears Trump is indeed wrong, as Zallman and Woolhandler claim, just not in the direction they believe. The actual cost of giving illegals health care is likely to be nearly twice as much as Trump's website states.

In other words, the problem is far worse than even the most "radical" Republican views have imagined.​

May 28, 2016
Health care for illegals: $18.5 billion per year
By Sierra Rayne

Blog: Health care for illegals: $18.5 billion per year​

Elderly Americans were forced to buy and pay for the benefits they were promised. The amount of money diverted from Medicare has already punished SS recipients by reducing benefits in order to help pay for illegal aliens. It will only get worse. Now, add United Nations economic refugees to the bill:

U.S. plots with United Nations to expand Syrian refugees from 10,000 to 200,000
By Paul Bedard
4/25/16 7:21 PM

U.S. plots with United Nations to expand Syrian refugees from 10,000 to 200,000​

Take this one to the bank. If Democrats win the presidency, or either house of Congress, the number of economic refugees will be in the millions before the 2020 election is upon us. In fact, Democrats do not need a majority in either House to keep the borders open. A supermajority of Republicans and conservatives is the only thing that can shutdown the Democrat party’s open-borders global agenda.

http://www.americanthinker.com/images/bucket/2016-05/196606_5_.jpg

Between the income tax paying for the ACA, and the parasites who never did a day’s work to pay for the free healthcare they get, at least 35 percent of Americans are being reduced to Third World living standards. As more wealth is transferred to the parasite class and tax dollar charity hustlers, the 35 percent in poverty must inevitably rise until the number goes above the 50 percent mark and higher with no hope of ever working their way out of poverty.

Bottom line: LBJ’s war on poverty is a variation of a weak country declaring a shooting war. The more money it takes to fight a losing war the closer a country comes to paying for its own permanent destruction.

lol

A fine example of the lies and demagoguery common to most on the right.

 

[anotherlife]

A tab of $18.5 billion is only the beginning:

Some basic math reveals that in 2000, illegal immigrants accounted for $6.45 billion of national medical spending.

Since 2000, "national medical spending" has increased by about 162% (i.e., a factor of >2.6), and the share of the U.S. population from illegal immigrants has -- if we take the likely underestimates at face value -- increased to 3.5%.

Consequently, crunching the numbers, we arrive at a projected current annual cost from providing health care to illegal immigrants of $18.5 billion.

Thus, it appears Trump is indeed wrong, as Zallman and Woolhandler claim, just not in the direction they believe. The actual cost of giving illegals health care is likely to be nearly twice as much as Trump's website states.

In other words, the problem is far worse than even the most "radical" Republican views have imagined.​

May 28, 2016
Health care for illegals: $18.5 billion per year
By Sierra Rayne

Blog: Health care for illegals: $18.5 billion per year​

Elderly Americans were forced to buy and pay for the benefits they were promised. The amount of money diverted from Medicare has already punished SS recipients by reducing benefits in order to help pay for illegal aliens. It will only get worse. Now, add United Nations economic refugees to the bill:

U.S. plots with United Nations to expand Syrian refugees from 10,000 to 200,000
By Paul Bedard
4/25/16 7:21 PM

U.S. plots with United Nations to expand Syrian refugees from 10,000 to 200,000​

Take this one to the bank. If Democrats win the presidency, or either house of Congress, the number of economic refugees will be in the millions before the 2020 election is upon us. In fact, Democrats do not need a majority in either House to keep the borders open. A supermajority of Republicans and conservatives is the only thing that can shutdown the Democrat party’s open-borders global agenda.

http://www.americanthinker.com/images/bucket/2016-05/196606_5_.jpg

Between the income tax paying for the ACA, and the parasites who never did a day’s work to pay for the free healthcare they get, at least 35 percent of Americans are being reduced to Third World living standards. As more wealth is transferred to the parasite class and tax dollar charity hustlers, the 35 percent in poverty must inevitably rise until the number goes above the 50 percent mark and higher with no hope of ever working their way out of poverty.

Bottom line: LBJ’s war on poverty is a variation of a weak country declaring a shooting war. The more money it takes to fight a losing war the closer a country comes to paying for its own permanent destruction.

lol

A fine example of the lies and demagoguery common to most on the right.

There should be a voluntary honor tax code too that you liberals could add to your tax bill to pay more taxes and feel better about yourselves as a result. Hehehe.

 

[Flanders]

The entire idea of individual taxation was invented and implemented to fund ww2. That one is not about to go away either. I guess money is too good.

To anotherlife: The money is good —— and necessary to maintain the welfare state.

Incidentally, the XVI Amendment (1913) gave the government a tax on income. They even had the balls to stick it in the Bill of Rights when it has always been a government Right. See this thread:

The XVI Amendment & The IRS

 

[anotherlife]

The entire idea of individual taxation was invented and implemented to fund ww2. That one is not about to go away either. I guess money is too good.

To anotherlife: The money is good —— and necessary to maintain the welfare state.

Incidentally, the XVI Amendment (1913) gave the government a tax on income. They even had the balls to stick it in the Bill of Rights when it has always been a government Right. See this thread:

The XVI Amendment & The IRS

Very interesting. Looks like the liberals didn't start yesterday. By the way, the year 1913 is peculiar, that was the inception of the fed too, plus everything that started ww1, the biggest liberal con ever.